Cynique

@DelSpeaking for myself, when you said women were smarter than men, I was not less reticient, - except in your opinion. i said women were more detail-oriented than men, and knew a little bit about a lot of things, whereas men seem to have limited interests. When you said that you were smarter than the average women and requested a comment, i said you were well-read but not as smart as women when it came to communicating clearly because you were not aware of how the quixotic way you expressed yourself affected your coherence. My conclusion that smartness has to be categorized is consistent with my above statements and is also pretty much in agreement with Troy saying: "characteristics like intelligence can be viewed many different ways and is often be difficult to measure. Therefore, making a statement like, "I am smarter than the average woman." is meaningless."

@Del Plowing my way through Troy's assertions after plowing my way through your request for me to explain them, i came to the conclusion that his statements were not necessarily in "conflict". The second one seems to elaborate on the first one. The message was the same: your question is ambiguous. His reference to "toxic egocentricity" was apparently a wise-crack referring to something said in another post. 🙄

I find it interesting that feminists have to be put in 2 categories: black ones and whites ones. But, then, this dichotomy has always existed and it began in another carnation during the Women's Suffrage movement when white women were not receptive to black women being included in the struggle to gain the vote. But black women persisted and did their own thing. The article's author could've also mentioned that intersectionality is a 3-headed monster because feminists, in addition to racism and misogeny, also had to contend with homophobic bias because of the lesbian presence in its ranks. At the onset of the movement, this played a role in inhibiting the enthusiasm of straight black female considering joining the movement. Back in the 1960s during the Women's Lib heyday, i also remember the attitude of many black women reflecting the idea that they were already on an equal level with their men, and were tired of sharing the burden, ready for these men to take over, and put their women on a pedestal they way white men did theirs. I never considered joining this group because like so many white liberal organizations back then, the leaders were condescending to blacks. To this day, I don't consider myself a feminist. I'm just a castigating woman; more so on some occasions than others. @Chevdove i never knew about Clarence Thomas commanding the support of black women, either. But the gospel-singing female supporters hark back to the black church which encourages women to take subordinate and supportive roles with their menfolk, and this includes protecting them. i also closely followed those hearings during which Democratic senator, Joe Biden, sided with Thomas. Thomas being a Republican married to a white woman was all i needed to be on Anita's side. @Mel Coincidentally i, too, recently became a fur grandmother when my grandson, over my objections and threats to move, brought a pit bull-mix into the household to romp around and chew up everything. Left with no choice but to co-exist with the creature, he and i did indeed communicate. During the intervals when he was confined to his cage, i would stand over him and talk to him, telling him what i wasn't going to put up with and how he'd better shape up. Sometimes he would argue back by barking at me. We did, in the process, establish eye-contact. Now, he knows that my room is off-limits, and to "sit" when i tell him to because i will reward his obedience by petting his head and scratching his ears. Other times, he displays a little defiance by squeezing through the door with me when i enter my room and, once in there, will sniff around and then leave on his own. He seems to want to be in my company. He's docile and good when his master is around but when my grandson leaves, he tries to get tough with me and my daughter. But, like the male of all species, when ignored he sulks away and takes a nap.

@Del i think you are very well-read, but i don't think you're smarter than the average woman when it comes to communicating because you are not cognizant of how your quixotic style of expressing yourself affects your coherence. The average woman is flexible enough to maker herself clearly understood. So, like everyone else, I believe that smartness has to be categorized.

Are you referring to yourself? Or are you eliciting comments from the women on this site?

Pioneer repeatedly accused me of lying when it came to his position on sex between adult males and young females. This is how it went down: He said "As long as they were above puberty and he didn't physically force himself on them, he's not a monster in my opinion." In another exchange between us, I reminded: "So in your opinion once puberty kicks in a female is fair game for any man seeking sex, no mater what her age is." Later i said to him: YOU are who brought up the subject of puberty being what transforms a female into a sex object. This subject is not only about Elijah Muhammad but about your philosophy in general when it comes to male entitlement". This was his response: "the only thing I said that came remotely close to this is when I said as long as the females are ABOVE puberty then.....(and it's still not necessarily OK if you're already married to someone)....I don't give a damn. Those affairs are between them and his wife, not us." What he calls "lies", i call "implications". Bottom line; he left himself open for my interpretations. When a person tells you his opinion - believe him! Pioneer's confusion about the duration of puberty also didn't help his case. So he and i remain at an impasse - as usual. (1) puberty: the period during which adolescents reach sexual maturity and become capable of reproduction: (2) puberty: In humans, puberty occurs at the onset of adolescence, between the ages of about 11 and 14 in girls and 13 and 16 in boys. Pioneer also accused Mel of lying about him.

@DelI'm not angry. It ain't that serious.

Propriety is important and mutual respect comes with propriety. On an internet discussion board, ongoing feuds can precipitate an exchange of insults. Online forums invariably become outlets for the kind of behavior that would not occur in a face-to-face confrontation. Anonymity emboldens some people prompting them to push the buttons because they don't have to suffer the consequences of their aggressiveness. That's life. That's what the board is a reflection of. We have all kinds of personalities here. i am tired and old and impatient. In the future i will curb my true cynical self and not name-call. That's the best i can do. 😬

@ChevdoveWell, all of what you revealed above seems to be compatible with a white supremacist agenda. Although total acceptance of white man's science goes against some of the arguments advanced on this board. All of which muddles things. i do find this research data interesting, however.

@Pioneer1No, Del just realized on his own that his first impression of you was correct.

There is such a thing as statutory rape, - a legal term for an adult having sex with an under-the-age-of-consent minor, and this is a crime. It doesn't matter if such sex was consensual.

Me, and my 2 daughters among many others. (1) puberty: the period during which adolescents reach sexual maturity and become capable of reproduction: (2) puberty: In humans, puberty occurs at the onset of adolescence, between the ages of about 11 and 14 in girls and 13 and 16 in boys. The subject under discussion was child predators. That's the context in which you made your statement. Above the age of puberty does not exempt teen-aged minors from being preyed on by these molesters.

Being "above puberty" gives you no leeway inasmuch as puberty commonly begins at about 12. In my response to your denial, i did not interpret what you said. i just ignored your bogus rationale You just cannot deal with reality when it comes to yourself. You're a waste of time.

Blah, blah, blah. is that the best you can do? I'd been more impressed had you not said anything. the animal kingdom is a very good barometer of what is instinctive and natural. There's nothing clear about cancer in animals. Cancer has always been around also.

Grasping at straws. I've never That's a lie. You think that simply contradicting the truth about yourself will dispel it. I quoted you exactly. But your personality disorder traps you in denial. Accusing everybody of lying about you says more about you than them. Delusion is the glue that holds you together. Without it you'd have a mental meltdown.