Pioneer1 Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 I've Never had the desire to be woman. I love being a man. Being a man (and a boy ofcourse...lol) has been what I know since birth, so I know how that feels. However, from time to time I've been very curious about how women think....lol. How do they arrive at the conclusions they arrive. How do they make their decisions. When they see and interact with men, what goes through their minds. I ask these questions from time to time but what inspired me to do a threat on it was a video I just watched where a sista was talking about transgendered people and she said if she saw a man coming up into the women's bathroom she'd run and look for the closest window to jump out of...lol. Perhaps she was just exaggerating, but as men...we pretty much wouldn't have THAT type of reaction to a woman coming up in our bathroom; but I know a lot of women would definitely be frightened. I recognize we have the same basic emotions, but it appears that women tend to be more sensitive or perhaps their emotions are more intense. Just, how does it FEEL being a woman or how is your THOUGHT PATTERN as a woman? I know a woman FEELS soft physically, but do you feel "soft" mentally or emotionally? Do you have to try extra hard to be as assertive as you think men are? Even being pregnant and giving birth. It can't be too comfortable, yet women still do it and seem "driven" to do it. How does it feel????
Troy Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 People are on a spectrum when it comes to emotional response, physicality, sexual orientation, and gender. People's reactions and beliefs are culturally defined. There is probably an environmental factor to all of this as well. As a result, you can't just put all women and all men into a simple well-defined buckets. I know you like black or white answers @Pioneer1, but the real world is much more complex and nuanced. There is no one way that all women think.
ProfD Posted August 14, 2024 Report Posted August 14, 2024 On 8/11/2024 at 9:04 PM, Pioneer1 said: Just, how does it FEEL being a woman or how is your THOUGHT PATTERN as a woman? Whenever you're in the company of women, instead of talking about politics, sports, religion, etc., ask those questions of them. Don't interrupt. Wait for their answers.
Troy Posted August 14, 2024 Report Posted August 14, 2024 @Pioneer1 do this but not directly. I was talking to a young woman yesterday and she did not like the fact that parents had to approve gender reassignment surgery for their children. I said I would not approve my son cutting off his penis at 13; he could make that decision once he was of legal age. She said she would approve the surgery at 13. I said "that is the 'woman' in you talking." But it was also generational differences as well. I do agree men and women are different to the extent that they feel differently about different things in general. These difference are of course not universal or strictly function of gender.
Chevdove Posted August 16, 2024 Report Posted August 16, 2024 On 8/11/2024 at 9:04 PM, Pioneer1 said: However, from time to time I've been very curious about how women think....lol. How do they arrive at the conclusions they arrive. How do they make their decisions. When they see and interact with men, what goes through their minds. I think that is a broad question and can be answered many ways. Women are very diverse and come from so many different cultures and therefore, they affected by their environment. But how women think and interact with males, although would also be based upon a cultural foundation, may have similar beliefs about men in general. I cannot speak for anyone else, but as for me, I am somewhat defensive and cautious against males. I also believe that the spirit of a male is ever present, even if there is not one physical nearby. I believe that the presence and historical aspect of males, set the tone for the whole world. Because, historically, men go to war and have that kind of history of having times where they have to be aggressive, therefore, it puts females like me, in a defensive mode. Because of my obsession studying about the nature of lions and I can obviously recognize that male lions, 'lions' have an extremely unique nature from female lions, lionesses, I believe that, in general, the human male nature, is probably unique apart from females, in some circumstances. So, for example, when my husband gets on my last nerve and become confused as to why he exhibits certain behaviors, sometimes I 'chalk-it-up-to' his male nature, and so, I just drop my anger and forego. I don't even try to make sense of it. Likewise, sometimes, if he tries to control me, I 'lose it' so-to-speak', and then he knows that he needs to leave off immediately. I also believe that I may be more defensive than other females because of my culture and being Black and a descendant of Slaves. However, now that I am older, I do think that females that know their fathers [unless their mothers are matriarchal] may have unique goals that causes them to not be as defensive as females that come from a single mother upbringing. A female that has a father may have goals that are not extremely based on 'getting even with men'.
ProfD Posted August 16, 2024 Report Posted August 16, 2024 11 hours ago, Chevdove said: I cannot speak for anyone else, but as for me, I am somewhat defensive and cautious against males. Likewise, sometimes, if he tries to control me.... I've always found it ridiculous of men and women trying to control others in a relationship. A woman should be defensive if a man tries to control her. Even if that man is her provider and protector, that still doesn't equate to control. Similarly, a man definitely should not allow himself to be controlled by a woman. In fact, a man needs to question his manhood if he's being controlled and/or if there is a possibility that could happen. Having the desire to control another human being is a sign of unresolved mental issue(s) within that individual. Unfortunately, very few people like to 1) admit they have a problem and 2) want to sit and talk to a shrink. Self-medication has been the #1 doctor since the beginning of time. 1
Pioneer1 Posted August 17, 2024 Author Report Posted August 17, 2024 Interesting comments........... Troy Oh...women are different??? Thanks for telling something that I already know, lol. BTW...I don't know any WOMAN who would agree with their own son getting his captain cut off at 13. Something seems a little wrong with that sista. Most Black women I know, if they heard their sons like that...her and Daddy go have to have a conversation, lol. Chev and ProfD I haven't met many women who liked to be "controlled" but most women I know DO like it when men take the lead in situations. Most tend to be a little more shy and reserved when it comes to taking action.
ProfD Posted August 18, 2024 Report Posted August 18, 2024 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I haven't met many women who liked to be "controlled" but most women I know DO like it when men take the lead in situations. Controlling and leading are different. Control is trying to govern someone else's movement; thoughts, actions and deeds. Control example...clocking someone's whereabouts or how they spent money. Lead is proactively getting things done towards a positive outcome. Lead example....cooking or making dinner reservations or planning a vacation without having to be asked or told to do so. Being comtrolled doesn’t feel right to most people. It has a negative connotation. OTOH, people will respond favorably to leadership especially if it produces a positive and/or puts a smile on their face. 2
Pioneer1 Posted August 18, 2024 Author Report Posted August 18, 2024 3 hours ago, ProfD said: Controlling and leading are different. Control is trying to govern someone else's movement; thoughts, actions and deeds. Control example...clocking someone's whereabouts or how they spent money. Lead is proactively getting things done towards a positive outcome. Lead example....cooking or making dinner reservations or planning a vacation without having to be asked or told to do so. Being comtrolled doesn’t feel right to most people. It has a negative connotation. OTOH, people will respond favorably to leadership especially if it produces a positive and/or puts a smile on their face. Seems to me you've hit the nail on the head. Not much to add to this...lol.
Pioneer1 Posted September 2, 2024 Author Report Posted September 2, 2024 He actually hit on a few good points....lol. Most women want a man who will LISTEN to them! It took me YEARS to figure that one out, lol....but when I did....I put it to work. I got quite a bit of coochie from just LISTENING to women when they were stressed out, lol. Didn't have to say anything. Just BE there...lol. Amazing Most women want to TALK out their problems with eachother, but when it comes to men....they don't want men to talk so much as to just listen. Even when it comes to MAN problems, that in my opinion we could actually help them solve since we know how men think. But most of them still would rather us just listen.
umbrarchist Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Most women want to TALK out their problems with eachother, but when it comes to men....they don't want men to talk so much as to just listen. As long as you put what they say into your Nothing Box. 1
ProfD Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Most women want a man who will LISTEN to them! It took me YEARS to figure that one out, lol....but when I did....I put it to work. When a man truly figures out what he wants/needs from a woman, he can maximize his life expectancy. 11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Even when it comes to MAN problems, that in my opinion we could actually help them solve since we know how men think. But most of them still would rather us just listen. If a woman has a problem with her man, it's probably because he's not listening or paying enough attention. There's nothing someone else can do to *fix* it. 1
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