Diddy Denied Bail in RICO Case

[ProfD]

https://nypost.com/2024/09/17/us-news/sean-diddy-combs-to-be-held-without-bail-in-sex-trafficking-case-judge/

 

Diddy offered to put up $50 million for bail. It was rejected by a NY judge. He remains in federal custody.

 

No amount of money puts a Black man above the law. Not even those seven zeroes buried over in Rio de Janiery.

[Delano]

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

No amount of money puts a Black man above the law. Not even those seven zeroes buried over in Rio de Janiery

Perhaps the judge remembered that rap. 

[Delano]

A few rappers got done for crimes and then there lyrics were used against them in court.

[Troy]

From the NY Post article, "Combs is accused of forcing women into “Freak Offs” with male prostitutes while he masturbated and recorded the sometimes days-long sex sessions."

 

WTF?!  He has the money to pay people to do this with exuberance. 

 

I thought he was accused of trafficking in underage children.  

[ProfD]

I don't believe the feds have a RICO case against Diddy. The most they will prove is that he likes freaky things.

 

There's no Epstein-esque evidence to show that Diddy was trafficking underage folks or anybody else.

 

The entertainment industry is filled with Diddy type parties. If he starts spilling the beans, the wholel culture of Hollywood and celebrity will be on trial.

 

I wonder why the feds never raided Hugh Hefner's Playboy mansion when he was alive. Same type of parties. That’s probably where Diddy got the idea. 

 

The 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lube is hilarious though.

[Troy]

I dunno man, we are talking about Homeland Security and the denied him bail!  The feds must have him on some shenanigans FAR more serious than what was described in the NY Post article...  The government is treating him like a terrorist or a mob boss. 

 

[Pioneer1]

On 9/17/2024 at 11:37 PM, ProfD said:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/17/us-news/sean-diddy-combs-to-be-held-without-bail-in-sex-trafficking-case-judge/

 

Diddy offered to put up $50 million for bail. It was rejected by a NY judge. He remains in federal custody.

 

No amount of money puts a Black man above the law. Not even those seven zeroes buried over in Rio de Janiery

Man you were WRONG for that one.....lol.
BTW...guess how many ZEROS are in $50 million.

I guess it's NOT all about the Benjamins.

 

All of this came after Puffy sued a mega-billion dollar liquor company (Diageo) over racism and won.
It's also said that during these freak-off parties you had a lot of celebrities who were caught on video and they knew he could use those videos to black-mail them, so this was probably a coordinated effort by MANY people to go after him.

At any rate.......

Puffy, Cosby, even OJ....are lessons ALL Black folks need to learn not just in the United States but around the world.

When it comes to racism, White folks don't care how much money you have...if they want to come after you they'll find a way.
 

From an Earthly perspective, what we need is POWER.
PHYSICAL POWER.
But that would mean we have to have the intelligence and technology and organization to produce it....and that's an issue with OUR people.

The second best thing.....based on my limited understanding of this world and how it works so far....would be to make alliances with powerful White organizations who CAN and WILL protect us from other racists.
This actually works to a certain extent.

Back in my community organizing days, I was told by knowledgeable bruthaz that if you want to get something done with White people...find the Jews and ask them for help.
Why?
Because they usually control the OTHER White folks in power....lol.
And it worked almost all of the times that I've tried it.

He's right there in New York, thousands of people of influence he could have been contacting to keep himself and his organization protected.

I'm not sure what Puff did or should have done, but instead of wasting time "SWIMMING in women with their own condominiums" what the nigga SHOULD have been doing was FLYING to Israel every other year meeting with people and rubbing elbows with global influence.

But in reality, I'm not just talking about Jews but this goes for MOST powerful White people/organization.
Find some who are willing to work with you and see if you can work something out with them.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Puffy sued a mega-billion dollar liquor company (Diageo) over racism and won.
It's also said that during these freak-off parties you had a lot of celebrities who were caught on video and they knew he could use those videos to black-mail them...

That's exactly why Puff is in the penalty box.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

From an Earthly perspective, what we need is POWER.
PHYSICAL POWER.

Real power is the willingness to kill in order to seize, dominate or control.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

He's right there in New York, thousands of people of influence he could have been contacting to keep himself and his organization protected.

Puff knows those kinds of people. He's learning first hand that coming against any one of their own kind brings a wrath.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But in reality, I'm not just talking about Jews but this goes for MOST powerful White people/organization.

Race suspects. They will get on code when it comes to maintaining the system of racism white supremacy. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Find some who are willing to work with you and see if you can work something out with them.

White folks will work with any non-whites long enough to infiltrate their organization like a computer virus and make it self-destruct.

[Pioneer1]

14 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

White folks will work with any non-whites long enough to infiltrate their organization like a computer virus and make it self-destruct.

That's a given, however when you understand that -you play the cards you're dealt as best you can.
....or go ahead and drop out the game. (and I think you know what that means)

If you're in a prison with little to no chance of getting out anytime soon, the smart thing to do is to make it as comfortable and profitable and as safe as possible.
That means finding some CO's, faculty, and even other inmates that you can half-way trust and work with while not being surprised if you are double-crossed from time to time.

As shitty as your options may seem.....it's better than hanging from your bunk while back at home your graduation picture is being surrounded by candles.

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's a given, however when you understand that -you play the cards you're dealt 

If you're in a prison with little to no chance of getting out anytime soon, the smart thing to do is to make it as comfortable and profitable and as safe as possible.

There's no one size fits all in how an inmate moves through his bid. Strength and weaknesses will reveal themselves in the yard or by word of mouth.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As shitty as your options may seem.....it's better than hanging from your bunk while back at home your graduation picture is being surrounded by candles.

In that situation, options are assets and/or liabilities depending one's strength and/or ability to transcend the prison of their mind.

[Pioneer1]

They CLAIM that Puffy is on suicide watch....but then other reports come out saying that he is refusing to eat food because of fear it may be poisoned.
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 

[ProfD]

The media will run this Diddy debacle until there's nothing left to see. Then, they'll keep milking it from every angle for several years. 

 

The late Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson along with Bill Cosby amd R. Kelly, are a few Black men the media has chosen to villianize and monetize.

 

Diddy knew the deal as he climbed the ranks of fame and celebrity. He enjoyed the high-life.

 

Regardless of whether or not Diddy knew, the system of racism white supremacy always breaks its tools.

[Pioneer1]

I was watching a video of Puffy promoting a movement to push a Black Agenda and for Black Americans to become more politically educated.
That could also be the reason they're coming after him.

Another issue is what Puffy represents.

He represents flashy arrogant Black success.
This rubs a lot of people the wrong way....especially in a society where you're taught that the "Christian" thing to do is be humble and modest.

Like 50 Cent said...
When they say you're too flashy.....it means they like you better when you're fucked up and ashy.

 

[ProfD]

Diddy was promoting Vote or Die a few years ago. He has not been too flashy since the late 1990s/early 2000s.

 

However, Diddy has been making power moves. The multimillion dollar lawsuit he fiied against a company could have stirred up a hornets nest. 

 

Whenever Black folks challenge any aspect off the system of racism white supremacy they can expect a nasty fight or worse.

[Pioneer1]

I have to wonder.....why DID he (Didd-y...lol) throw those wild ass parties?

I'm not a celebrity nor a multi-millionaire, so I'm not sure what goes on in the minds of people like that or what their obligations are; however is seems to me that if you have...say over $10 Million......your crazy days should be over.

Time to be serious, stay as FAR away from trouble and legal problems as you possibly can and just play it safe.

Why engage in drugs, environments where people can be sexually assaulted and sue you, and other behaviors that could jeopardize you losing your wealth and freedom?

Why???

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I have to wonder.....why DID he (Didd-y...lol) throw those wild ass parties?

Fun.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

seems to me that if you have...say over $10 Million......your crazy days should be over.

Some people never grow up. No amount of money will change it.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Time to be serious, stay as FAR away from trouble and legal problems as you possibly can and just play it safe.

That requires maturity. Some folks consider *safe* to be boring.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Why engage in drugs, environments where people can be sexually assaulted and sue you, and other behaviors that could jeopardize you losing your wealth and freedom?

Some people make a lot of money in order to indulge in their idea of recreation and fun activities.

 

Having a log of money leads some people to having a false sense of power and invincibility.

 

No amount of downfall examples will stop people from believing they're on a higher plane.

[Troy]

OK I trying to stay away from the Algorithm, but I have fallen prey to some of the Diddy stuff in YouTube.  This is not about lavishly freaky parties.

 

Apparently, this is about kidnapping and holding hostage underage girls to sexual torture involving Oprah, Steve Harvey, TD Jakes, and others... at least that is the shit that is in my feed.   Apparently, Kat Williams has been trying to tell y'all all this for years 

 

Whether the worst of these rumor and gossip is true, or not, I don't think this is "The Man" railroading Diddy because he was about to do something positive for the Black masses in the vein of MLK. X, or Garvey.  This is some Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein shit on steroids. 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Troy said:

Apparently, this is about kidnapping and holding hostage underage girls to sexual torture...

I don't believe Diddy was stupid enough to be involved in that crime. Waiting for the trial. 

2 hours ago, Troy said:

Whether the worst of these rumor and gossip is true, or not, I don't think this is "The Man" railroading Diddy because he was about to do something positive for the Black masses in the vein of MLK. X, or Garvey.

Diddy wasn't trying to be a Black activist or leader. I still think he po'd the wrong people. 

2 hours ago, Troy said:

This is some Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein shit on steroids. 

I'm looking forward to the trial because I don't believe Diddy was on some stein-shit.

[Troy]

3 hours ago, ProfD said:

I don't believe Diddy was stupid enough to be involved in that crime.

 

Why? He  would be the first and he won’t be the last.

 

 But I know I’m biased by the BS I’ve seen online… it is terrible how the algorithm influences you — even against your own Brothers.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Yeah, I think you nailed it again.

 

Sometimes I forget not to measure people by MY standards.
Especially when it comes to so-called fun, what's important in Life, and the importance of playing it safe.
 

I've mentioned many times that I don't smoke weed because it doesn't have a euphoric effect on me.
So if I got $10 Billion next week, not a penny of it would go towards the purchase of weed.
Unless it's to build a bunch of Marijuana farms to start a business or something....lol.

I have MY idea of fun what I'd spend money on, but others have their own.

But I hear (read...lol) you when you say that safe is considered "boring" to some people.
To me, safe isn't boring but INTELLIGENT.

I know a couple of women who are married and love to cheat.
They say it's "fun".
It's not the sex but the fact that they are cheating on their husbands and think they're getting away with it that's fun to them.
 

 

If you have all of this money, why would you give your enemies an opportunity to take it away from you by doing illegal shit?

 

I probably WOULD have sex parties though.
But it wouldn't be like Puffy's Freak-Off parties.

 

-No minors
-No illegal drugs
-The females would dramatically out number the males.
-And I'd actually have quite a few older and old women in them...lol.

And as I mentioned before, I'd be paying off key White people who have the power and authority to actually protect me from prosecution or public disgrace.

[ProfD]

12 hours ago, Troy said:

Why? He  would be the first and he won’t be the last.

Right. Diddy wouldn't be 1st or last rich person to engage in criminal activity.

 

Considering the crimes Diddy's been accused of in the past, I'm thinking he would have to be super stupid to have underage folks at those parties.

 

@Pioneer1, there's plenty ways to have fun without it leading to drama or criminal charges.

 

More money actually makes it easier if one is intelligent in how they handle their business. 

 

For example, dudes like Diddy and R. Kelly have or had enough money to do their thing in countries that would have allowed it. Brazil or Thailand.

[Pioneer1]

34 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

For example, dudes like Diddy and R. Kelly have or had enough money to do their thing in countries that would have allowed it. Brazil or Thailand.

Perhaps.....
However the more I talk to people who've been to those places and the more I interact with people from those areas and similar regions, the more I believe that as Black American men.....unless you're doing something outrageously perverse....doing your thang inside the borders of the U.S. is still your best bet.

Brazil and Thailand are good for WHITE MEN with money.
THEY can get away with a lot.

When it comes to BLACK MEN with money, your MONEY is much welcomed and appreciated but YOU often times are NOT.

Many times....especially in Asia....your race outweighs your cash.
So many of the people...both in government as well as private citizens are so hateful and resentful of some "nigger" coming into their country screwing their women and flaunting his wealth over them.
Infact, when it comes to many of these people....they hate a RICH Black man way more than they hate a BROKE one.

People from some of these other countries will TOLERATE a rich Black American only for so long before his picture ends up on the news....sharing a split screen  with the other half showing police taping off a hotel while a crowd of little 5 foot tall people stand around in flip-flops with their arms folded grinning and chattering about who got to the brutha first and what they did with his body.

Everybody in the community was probably "in" on it.

Sometimes it's best to stay in the U.S.A.

[ProfD]

32 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Brazil and Thailand are good for WHITE MEN with money.
THEY can get away with a lot.

I know many brothas who bounce back and forth between those places. No issues whatsoever. 

 

Foreigners h8te arrogant Americans. It's mainly the white Americans who show up and treat their country like a garbage can or toilet.

 

Otherwise, a rich Black man can get away with all kinds of sh8t as long as he doesn't p*ss off white folks.

 

Women of every persuasion throw themselves at Black athletes and entertainers.

 

It's the same thing for average Black men considering the number of interracial coupling we see here in the US. world.

 

Regardless of race, the women do not hate Black men.  It's the men in their culture who cannot stand us and who brainwash some of their women into hating us too.

 

Yet, go to any Asian massage parlor and receive the same happy ending as anybody else.

 

Wu-Tang nailed it with C.R.E.A.M. back in the day.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

I have to go back to personal experience, observation, and anecdotal evidence.......

You say you've known plenty of Black men who've gone to those places and haven't had any problems.
I don't know too many Black men personally who have went to those places period, especially for the purposes of banging women.
I know I haven't.

Most of the Black American men I know who travel abroad like that are married, sexually stable, and tend to go to these places on business for vacation WITH their wives.

Now I've seen a lot of them on the INTERNET who've talked about their travels to those place, but again...very few personally.

That being the case, I can't really argue your point.

I do know that I used to go to Canada and still do from time to time and a large percentage of the women THERE of all races seem to like Black American men.
Although it started changing in the past 15 years or so and they don't seem to chase bruthaz around AS much as they did back in the 80s and 90s.

I base most of my comments....not on my personal experiences in these regions...but based on the PEOPLE I've met here in America who hail from these regions.


 

[Troy]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

-The females would dramatically out number the males.

 

There wouldn't be any men at my "billionaire sex parties."

 

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

I know many brothas who bounce back and forth between those places. No issues whatsoever. 

 

This is true.  Karen Hinter wrote a book about Brothers going to Brazile.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't know too many Black men personally who have went to those places period, especially for the purposes of banging women.
I know I haven't.

 

You probably roll with a different class of Brothers than the good @ProfD, so you experience is different.  Not only do I know dude that go down regularly I not of some who have moved and stayed. 

 

 

 

 

[Pioneer1]

I don't know who rolls with who and I don't rub elbows with the rich and famous, I simply speak on MY experiences and MY observations in real life.
....that way I rarely go wrong.

 

[ProfD]

Black men with means can travel and do their thing without getting jammed up one way or another.

 

Again, it's usually when a rich Black man p*sses off white supremacists that he has *problems* with them.

 

White folks will let Black folks believe they can do the same things as them until it's time to call in the markers.

 

Black people should never think or believe that any amount of money frees them from the system of racism white supremacy.

[Pioneer1]

While I don't disagree with what you're saying, my focus isn't so much on these Black men pissing off White folks....as much as them pissing off the local population "of color".

Often times, these yellow, tan, and brown skinned people in Asia and Latin America are MORE overtly racist than White folks.

The Blackest man can go to Canada or Europe and bounce up and down the street with the whitest, blondest, most blue eyed woman in the country and the vast majority of White men wouldn't dare turn their head let alone so much as give them a cross eyed look.
If a White man DOES have the nuts to say something to them....he usually IS nuts.
Some crazy "off code" racist.

But when it comes to places in Latin America and Asia, many of those people OPENLY oppose Black men dating and screwing their women regardless of the amount of money he brings with him.
Infact, they look at a rich brutha as MORE insulting....because of their jealousy of his wealth and their belief that he should be "beneath" them.

Yes, SHE...the woman he's with...may like him and even her family may dig him; especially if he's taking care of her family financially with his wealth like a lot of American men do when they date/marry foreign women.
But the rest of the village, town, or society may not be so kind.

But again, I'm basing this on the behavior of the people who come to America from these nations as well as some of the things I've heard from Black people who've traveled  to them.

And again....not on the internet but in real life.

If you just listen to some of these "passport niggaz" on the internet sitting up telling you stories about their wild sexual exploits overseas...you'll liable to hear ANYTHING.....except the truth....lol.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Often times, these yellow, tan, and brown skinned people in Asia and Latin America are MORE overtly racist than White folks.

Absolutely. Black shouldn't *trust* any of them folks.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

But when it comes to places in Latin America and Asia, many of those people OPENLY oppose Black men dating and screwing their women regardless of the amount of money he brings with him.

They may not like it but they'll do whatever it takes to get his money. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

And again....not on the internet but in real life.

I certainly don't get my info from dudes on the internet. I'm referring to real life folks I know personally.

[Troy]

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

....that way I rarely go wrong.

ok. 
 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Often times, these yellow, tan, and brown skinned people in Asia and Latin America are MORE overtly racist than White folks.

Is this Also based upon you personal experiences in Asia and  Latin American countries?

 

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

They may not like it but they'll do whatever it takes to get his money

 

Well, again based on MY personal experiences and observations....like you said earlier, it's not the WOMEN who are the problem but the men in this cultures.

 

Most of the non-Black and non-White women that I've been intimate with so far (which are few) have told me that they tend to find Black men VERY attractive sexually but their families...specifically the men in their families...threatened them with disownment, physical harm, and other penalties for having sex with Black men.

 

I had one Latina girl tell me a long time ago that her father told her that he'd forgive her for anything EXCEPT sleeping with a "Black guy".
He said he'd rather her become a LESBIAN than sleep with "Black guys".

I think a lot of our bruthaz underestimate the level of hatred and jealousy that exists for them by some of these men.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

Is this Also based upon you personal experiences in Asia and  Latin American countries?

 

No, it's based on my personal experiences and observations with many Asians and Latin Americans THEMSELVES.

 

If most Koreans in the U.S. are racist, why should I expect Korea itself to be any different?

Perhaps it may be different, but should I EXPECT for the country to be different from the people who hail from it?

[Troy]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If most Koreans in the U.S. are racist, why should I expect Korea itself to be any different?

One I disagree with the premise of your statement, and two clearly there would be differences between Koreans who left Korea for the United States and those so did not come, namely a desire to live with non-Koreans. Which would probably make them less racists.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

No, it's based on my personal experiences and observations with many Asians and Latin Americans THEMSELVES.

So you base your opinions on not the people living in the countries, you expose opinions on, but instead hearsay from people who don’t even live there. … OK

 

 

[Chevdove]

On 9/28/2024 at 11:12 AM, ProfD said:

The late Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson along with Bill Cosby amd R. Kelly, are a few Black men the media has chosen to villianize and monetize.

 

Diddy knew the deal as he climbed the ranks of fame and celebrity. He enjoyed the high-life.

 

 

 

His mother, Janice, says that they are publicly lynching her son and I agree. 

Also, they are going after her too. A lot of media reports attack her and blame her and are accusing her being part of his freak off parties and that is so unfair.

She worked three jobs trying to provide for her children after their father was murdered. 

Why are they blaming her!? 

Of course, I believe that PDiddy is a monster for what he did to Cassie and other women, but to blame Janice is unfair.

Why didn't any of his friends confront him because they knew what he was doing?

Where are the elders in our communities when this type of abuse against women is happening?

Is he guilty of going after minors?

If he is, then he needs to be prosecuted for that too.

I do believe Katt, 50 cent, and Wendy Williams too about dabbling with homosexual behaviors but he did not start out that way.

 

 

 

On 10/5/2024 at 7:03 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Time to be serious, stay as FAR away from trouble and legal problems as you possibly can and just play it safe.

Why engage in drugs, environments where people can be sexually assaulted and sue you, and other behaviors that could jeopardize you losing your wealth and freedom?

Why???

 

This system knows how to prey on fatherless children. That's your answer. 

Black children are vulnerable.

Little Black boys are stocked because 'they' don't want them to grow up and challenge WS and male dominance.

So, homosexualism is one key method offered to young men that seem to show male dominance. 

 

 

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Why are they blaming her!? 

White supremacists always demonize the parents of Black people even when their offspring are adults. 

 

OTOH, when white boys become mass shooters, they don't want to hold the parents accountable.

 

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Why didn't any of his friends confront him because they knew what he was doing?

Those friends are hangers on who benefit from the money, s8x and everything else that comes with being around a celebrity.

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Where are the elders in our communities when this type of abuse against women is happening?

The elders in the community are nowhere around celebrity parties and other shenanigans.  Besides, Diddy and the rest of these people are adults.

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

This system knows how to prey on fatherless children. That's your answer. 

Black children are vulnerable.

The narrative wants us to believe Black children who grow up without a father are vulnerable to dysfunction. 

 

What makes the Black children different from fatherless children of other races?

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Little Black boys are stocked because 'they' don't want them to grow up and challenge WS and male dominance.

There's no shortage of Black men serving as role models to Black boys from athletics to academics. 

 

The media wants us to believe there is a ton of dysfunction among our people.  

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

So, homosexualism is one key method offered to young men that seem to show male dominance. 

Homosexuality is a choice that people make at some point in their lives. 

 

Black folks are no different when it comes to joining the alphabet soup community.

[Chevdove]

26 minutes ago, ProfD said:

White supremacists always demonize the parents of Black people even when their offspring are adults. 

 

OTOH, when white boys become mass shooters, they don't want to hold the parents accountable.

 

idk, recently, that kid in Georgia was arrested and so was his father, but this seems to be a new thing too, in that parents are being arrested too, if their child commits a mass shooting in a school. However, some people on social media says that the mother should also have been arrested. 

28 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The elders in the community are nowhere around celebrity parties and other shenanigans.  Besides, Diddy and the rest of these people are adults.

 

OH no! Wait a minute! I heard that TD Jakes might have been lurking around! LOL.

At any rate, the elders in the community should be aware of these celebrities because those idiots do affect all of us, if they should do these crazy things. 

Adults need to be checked and balanced by our government leaders, if they are not monitored, then humanity will be hurt. 

 

31 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The narrative wants us to believe Black children who grow up without a father are vulnerable to dysfunction. 

 

What makes the Black children different from fatherless children of other races?

 

The answer to that question is 'chattel slavery'. There's you answer. Fatherless children of other races are vulnerable too, but Black children are especially preyed upon. Children need guidance and good role models. 

 

33 minutes ago, ProfD said:

There's no shortage of Black men serving as role models to Black boys from athletics to academics. 

 

The media wants us to believe there is a ton of dysfunction among our people.  

 

We have a lot of role models from athletics to entertainment, but no, not in the area of STEM.

When Nippsey Hussle tried to address this shortage, he was gunned down. 

There is a serious deficit in academics for Black people, and I know this because this is my career. i see the numbers in the schools. It's insane. 

Because of chattel slavery, there is, unfortunately, a ton of dysfunction. 

I don't know much about Pdiddy or why he became so famous, I didn't listen to his music because I was busy during the 90s but, I 

believe that he was probably as good as I hear. I bet he was a genius in his area, but I believe that he did not have a good role model for being a positive male. 

 

39 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Homosexuality is a choice that people make at some point in their lives. 

 

Black folks are no different when it comes to joining the alphabet soup community.

 

Oh no, H3ll no! LOL. Don't get me started @ProfD Little black boys are approached and preyed upon early in life to confuse them and help them to make that choice and I don't need you to tell me different because I heard enough 'brothas' tell me their experiences. Don't get me started... 

 

 

[ProfD]

10 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

idk, recently, that kid in Georgia was arrested and so was his father, but this seems to be a new thing too, in that parents are being arrested too, if their child commits a mass shooting in a school. However, some people on social media says that the mother should also have been arrested. 

The only reason they're beginning to hold white parents responsible is public outcry for accountability.

10 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

OH no! Wait a minute! I heard that TD Jakes might have been lurking around! LOL.

At any rate, the elders in the community should be aware of these celebrities because those idiots do affect all of us, if they should do these crazy things. 

Adults need to be checked and balanced by our government leaders, if they are not monitored, then humanity will be hurt. 

Entertainment and celebrity has been a cesspool of debauchery for many decades. 

 

That's like saying elders should be running around on college campuses keeping the young folks from partying and hazing each other.  Not going to happen.

 

Adult are responsible for their own behaviors.  It's a part of being grown.

 

10 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

The answer to that question is 'chattel slavery'. There's you answer. Fatherless children of other races are vulnerable too, but Black children are especially preyed upon. Children need guidance and good role models. 

Chattel slavery isn't the reason for dysfunction among the current generation of Black folks. 

 

However, the system of racism white supremacy plays a role in it.

 

10 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

I don't know much about Pdiddy or why he became so famous, I didn't listen to his music because I was busy during the 90s but, I 

believe that he was probably as good as I hear. I bet he was a genius in his area, but I believe that he did not have a good role model for being a positive male. 

Diddy who was raised without a father became a billionaire.  Believing that he's above the system of racism white supremacy, his addictions and desires are leading to his downfall.

10 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Oh no, H3ll no! LOL. Don't get me started @ProfD Little black boys are approached and preyed upon early in life to confuse them and help them to make that choice and I don't need you to tell me different because I heard enough 'brothas' tell me their experiences. Don't get me started... 

Homosexuality has been around forever.  Black men do not have a monopoly on it.

[Chevdove]

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

The only reason they're beginning to hold white parents responsible is public outcry for accountability.

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

Oh really? Well, I think it is good, but hopefully, it won't get out of hand though. In the Georgia case though, that father should have been arrested because he bought his son a gun! How stupid is that?

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

hat's like saying elders should be running around on college campuses keeping the young folks from partying and hazing each other.  Not going to happen.

 

Adult are responsible for their own behaviors.  It's a part of being grown.

 

True, adults cannot stop deviant behavior but nonetheless, if Black people do not see the need to do something about our cultural deviants then, this White American government and law enforcement will definitely do something. Deviant behavior occurs in every culture among adults, I understand that. Diddy is now locked up and the law is now going to take matters at hand, but I still believe that someone in his circle should have confronted him if they saw him do something wrong instead of letting this system set him up with a false sense of security to believe that he was above the law. They stocked him for a long time it seems. Those jealous bastards set him up for failure, then tricked him and let him believe that he would get off. 

 

He went to New York and then they arrested him and then afterwards revealed to him his doomed fate. They tricked him. 

I feel so sorry for Janice. 

Diddy was only three (3) years old when his father was murdered. 

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Chattel slavery isn't the reason for dysfunction among the current generation of Black folks. 

 

However, the system of racism white supremacy plays a role in it.

 

How so?

This recent past conflict over CRT comes to my mind now. I've heard the argument that history about slavery is trying to be taken out of education because of what you are saying here, in that today, this generation is not affected by it. Along those same lines, many White people do not see any connection to their ancestors actions with regards to slavery and their current status today. They do not believe they benefit from slavery at all. 

 

As a teacher, I can tell you the percentage of Black students who perform on test scores is dramatically different from White and Asian students. 

If you don't believe that this generation has dysfunction that is connected to their ancestors being enslaved, then what do you think is the problem?

I do not believe that Black people are born two-thirds and ignorant by nature, nor do I believe that White people are born racist. I think both cultures show learned behavior and lack of knowledge and depravity. Some of these kids are being rewarded for bad behavior, imo. 

Just like you said, the system of white supremacy plays a role in it and this is learned behavior, imo. 

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Black men do not have a monopoly on it.

 

Thank God for that! Those d3mn Greeks. 

 

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

In the Georgia case though, that father should have been arrested because he bought his son a gun! How stupid is that?

It's extremely commonplace for White folks to buy firearms for their kids.

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

Diddy is now locked up and the law is now going to take matters at hand...

Diddy was close to a billionaire. Nobody in his circle or outside could tell him anything. He brought this problem on himself full stop. 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

 I feel so sorry for Janice. 

Diddy was only three (3) years old when his father was murdered. 

Again, Diddy overcame any obstacles he faced to become a very successful businessman.  He decided to do whatever he did to bring himself to this point.

 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

This recent past conflict over CRT comes to my mind now. I've heard the argument that history about slavery is trying to be taken out of education because of what you are saying here, in that today, this generation is not affected by it.

Our history should never be erased. It's important for people to know their history in part to avoid repeating it.

 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

Along those same lines, many White people do not see any connection to their ancestors actions with regards to slavery and their current status today. They do not believe they benefit from slavery at all. 

Another reason that history is important. People need to know what they've done and why they owe. 

 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

As a teacher, I can tell you the percentage of Black students who perform on test scores is dramatically different from White and Asian students.

Yep. I'm aware that Black students are often under-performing on standardized tests compared to whites and Asians. 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

If you don't believe that this generation has dysfunction that is connected to their ancestors being enslaved, then what do you think is the problem?

I believe it's a multilayered problem that includes integration, welfare, broken families, lack of economic opportunities and a  lack of personal responsibility and accountability to name a few.

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

I do not believe that Black people are born two-thirds and ignorant by nature, nor do I believe that White people are born racist. I think both cultures show learned behavior and lack of knowledge and depravity.

Family, environment and culture are the 1st instructors in human lives.

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

Some of these kids are being rewarded for bad behavior, imo. 

Just like you said, the system of white supremacy plays a role in it and this is learned behavior, imo. 

The system of racism white supremacy rewards bad behavior in an effort to put Black folks in prison. 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

Thank God for that! Those d3mn Greeks. 

The Greeks and Roman were serious when it came to alternative sexuality.

 

History is important to understanding how we got here and what we need to do in order to correct it.

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

One I disagree with the premise of your statement

 

It wasn't a statement, it was a question:

I asked...if most Koreans in the U.S. are racist, why should I expect Korea itself to be any different?

 

Even if you DON'T believe that most Koreans in the U.S. are racists...if that is hypothetically true...why would you NOT expect most Koreans back in Korean to be the same?

Most people would need strong evidence or proof to the contrary, to think otherwise.

 

 

 

, and two clearly there would be differences between Koreans who left Korea for the United States and those so did not come, namely a desire to live with non-Koreans. Which would probably make them less racists.

 

Not necessarily, because:

1. Their motivation COULD (and usually IS) economic, not cultural.
They come to the U.S. to MAKE MORE MONEY here, not because they love Americans and want to live with and socialize with us.

 

2. And evidence of this is how most Koreans....when they do come to the United States...form their own little isolated communities where they live, work, and even go to church ONLY or MOSTLY with other Koreans.

 

Most of them don't come here to "integrate" with Americans, but almost soley to take advantage of the economic opportunities here.

Being forced to integrate and mix in with Americans...especially Black Americans....is often looked upon as a "necessary evil" by them in order to do business here.

So you base your opinions on not the people living in the countries, you expose opinions on, but instead hearsay from people who don’t even live there. … OK
 

It's not simply hearsay if it's based on people who HAVE lived there and were BORN AND RAISED there.

Is it your position that a person shouldn't have any sort of opinion on the social climate of a nation unless they pack up and MOVE there first to study the behavior and attitudes of the people first hand?

Perhaps we shouldn't have an opinion about how dangerous it is in the Ukraine or in Gaza UNTIL we pack up and move over there FIRST....and when we make it back...we can talk about it?  

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

1. Their motivation COULD (and usually IS) economic, not cultural.

They come to the U.S. to MAKE MORE MONEY here, not because they love Americans and want to live with and socialize with us.

 

Most of them don't come here to "integrate" with Americans, but almost soley to take advantage of the economic opportunities here.

Facts.

 

Regardless of where people come from around the planet, they all come to the US for better opportunities full stop.

 

It's not the weather or tourist attractions or big booties bouncing around.

 

The immigrants will set up shop among and deal with whoever is paying them.

 

But, those same immigrants will form their own communities elsewhere. That's why there seems to be a Chinatown or Hispanic enclave in every US city.

 

The crazy part is Black folks sit back and watch it happen and patronize foreign establishments (nail salons, beauty supply stores, food joints, liquor stores, dry cleaners, etc.) in their own communities. 

 

The one thing you will not find in Asian or Hispanic communities is a Black-owned business.

[Pioneer1]

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

The crazy part is Black folks sit back and watch it happen and patronize foreign establishments (nail salons, beauty supply stores, food joints, liquor stores, dry cleaners, etc.) in their own communities. 

 

The one thing you will not find in Asian or Hispanic communities is a Black-owned business.

I attribute this to 2 major factors:

1. Laziness

Unlike the generations who grew up in Segregation and definitely unlike the generations during Reconstruction....the past several generations who grew up in so-called "Integration" grew up lazy.
They didn't have to do anything for themselves because today White folks....and now other groups...run most of the businesses and take care of their needs from making food to making clothes to building housing.

They don't have to MAKE a job for themselves like their great grand parents had to.  All they have to do is go down to the shopping mall and fill out an application and wait on a phone call.  If they get hired, just do enough to keep a job, get a pay check...and then run out and spend it in SOMEBODY ELSE'S establishment.

 

 

2. Sincere Naiveté

Although we're starting to catch on NOW, most Black people sincerely believed in the "unity" of America and didn't realize how anti-Black and "only out for themselves" most of these immigrants were.

We knew they HAD businesses and that we USED TO have businesses, but we didn't think much of it because we were so focused on White folks and keeping an eye on THEM that we didn't know how racist and anti-Black many of these immigrant groups were.

We saw them as ALLIES while they saw us as COMPETITION and in many cases OBSTACLES in their way to get closer to White folks.

Oh....but we're waking up NOW and waking up FAST. 

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I attribute this Unlike the generations who grew up in Segregation and definitely unlike the generations during Reconstruction....the past several generations who grew up in so-called "Integration" grew up lazy.
They didn't have to do anything for themselves because today White folks....and now other groups...run most of the businesses and take care of their needs from making food to making clothes to building housing.

It's a fools errand to believe someone else is going take care of them forever. 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They don't have to MAKE a job for themselves like their great grand parents had to. 

Integration definitely created a false sense of security. 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Although we're starting to catch on NOW, most Black people sincerely believed in the "unity" of America and didn't realize how anti-Black and "only out for themselves" most of these immigrants were.

The shade and disrespect when patronizing non-Black businesses wasn't enough to make our people think differently.

 

Nope. Our people will adamantly with a full chest tell non-Black establishments to take their money or else there will be h8ll to pay.

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

We saw them as ALLIES while they saw us as COMPETITION and in many cases OBSTACLES in their way to get closer to White folks.

Black folks have been like an abuse victim looking for love in all the wrong places, er, people.

[Troy]

On 10/13/2024 at 9:29 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Even if you DON'T believe that most Koreans in the U.S. are racists...if that is hypothetically true...why would you NOT expect most Koreans back in Korean to be the same?

No, I don’t think most Korean will come to the US are racist. You are shoehorning and American on Koreans for no good reason. 
 

If Koreans are racist, why do you presume they would only be racist against Black people?

 

Also, there is a bias; people who choose to come to America from Korea probably have some very significant differences than the ones who choose to stay. For example, if you choose to leave your home and culture behind boarding entirely different one, being racist would not be very helpful and surviving in a foreign country. What is helpful is to be highly motivated.

 

On 10/13/2024 at 11:09 AM, ProfD said:

The one thing you will not find in Asian or Hispanic communities is a Black-owned business.

So why is that? Do you think it is as part it says due to laziness I think if you thought it through for a minute, you come up with some other reasons.

[ProfD]

13 minutes ago, Troy said:

So why is that? Do you think it is as part it says due to laziness I think if you thought it through for a minute, you come up with some other reasons.

The only reason that matters is Black-owned businesses aren't welcomed in other communities because we're not them.

 

Those communities are supporting their own businesses which should be the case. Vertical integration 101.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

It's a fools errand to believe someone else is going take care of them forever. 

 

Lol...there are a lot of fools of ALL races, in America.

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

 

No, I don’t think most Korean will come to the US are racist. You are shoehorning and American on Koreans for no good reason. 

 

Ok.
So you don't think it.  ((shrugs shoulders))

Lol...

But I think the documented and historical friction between Koreans and AfroAmericans not just in ONE region but ALL OVER the United States from coast to coast is good enough reason to start forming conclusions around a pattern of relations.



 

If Koreans are racist, why do you presume they would only be racist against Black people?
 

Who said I did?

Many of them don't like Latinos, Indians, or even other Asians.

 

Also, there is a bias; people who choose to come to America from Korea probably have some very significant differences than the ones who choose to stay. 
 

"Probably" isn't definitely.
You're arguing with hypotheticals.



 

For example, if you choose to leave your home and culture behind boarding entirely different one, being racist would not be very helpful and surviving in a foreign country. 

 

It would be if racist Whites sponsored you and brought you over here to be allies with them AGAINST AfroAmericans.
Infact, NOT being racist against AfroAmericans and treating us fairly would be to their detriment.
Racist Whites would then see no reason to bring them over here and would leave them in their own country....lol.