Why Iron Mike? Why?

[Troy]

On 12/12/2024 at 9:13 AM, ProfD said:

Baseball player Juan Soto just got a 15 year/$765 million dollar contract. He generates money for his team.

 

There's not a professor on any college campus in America who either makes $50 million per year in salary or who generates that much money for the institution.

 

Aw man you doing a "@Pioneer1" on me and shifting the goal post LOL!

 

You wrote professors "do not generate money for the institution."  Now you are talking about relative amount of money they make for their relative employers.

 

But your example illustrates my point:  We can pay a guy a billion dollars to play a game, while teachers, many in the college ranks, struggle to make a living.  Again, we value the athlete (i.e. entertainer) more than the intellect -- especially when it comes to Black folks.

 

Wealthy/rich you are mincing words.  I'd take Mike's money, over mine, any day of the week

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Troy said:

Aw man you doing a "@Pioneer1" on me and shifting the goal post LOL!

INot my style or intention.

2 hours ago, Troy said:

You wrote professors "do not generate money for the institution." 

How do professors generate money for the institution?

 

2 hours ago, Troy said:

But your example illustrates my point:  We can pay a guy a billion dollars to play a game, while teachers, many in the college ranks, struggle to make a living.  Again, we value the athlete (i.e. entertainer) more than the intellect -- especially when it comes to Black folks.

The team owners pay athletes millions of dollars.  A fraction of the money those owners make from their franchises.

 

2 hours ago, Troy said:

Wealthy/rich you are mincing words.

Not all all.  Comedian Chris Rock pointed out the difference between rich and wealthy.

2 hours ago, Troy said:

  I'd take Mike's money, over mine, any day of the week

Sure.  Iron Mike is rich.  The folks who made him that way are wealthy.

[Troy]

10 hours ago, ProfD said:

The folks who made him that way are wealthy.

Dude people like us make Mike rich. How many times have you paid pay-per-view 50 bucks or more to watch Mike Tyson fight on TV. Look at all the people who pack arenas to watch Mike knock somebody out in a couple of minutes.

 

The same as true for football basketball whatever. We will pay $100 for a T-shirt with their teams logo on it. People pay a couple hundred dollars to sit in a shitty seat to watch men play children’s games. 
 

Sure, there are endorsement deals, and advertising sales but again if we did not go to the games and watch them on TV, there would be no ads to sell.

 

And I submit to you that Mike Tyson given all the money he’s earned over the years should be wealthy. 
 

10 hours ago, ProfD said:

How do professors generate money for the institution?

Why do people pay to go to college?

[ProfD]

29 minutes ago, Troy said:

Dude people like us make Mike rich.

Sure.  Consumers make people wealthy who in turn can afford to make others rich.

 

29 minutes ago, Troy said:

And I submit to you that Mike Tyson given all the money he’s earned over the years should be wealthy. 

It is possible that Iron Mike could have been a wealthy man if he had handled his business better.

29 minutes ago, Troy said:

Why do people pay to go to college?

Most people pay for an education in order to 1)  get a piece of paper in order to 2) to increase their chances of getting a good job.  Well off people go to colleges and universities in order to network.

 

Folks aren't going to colleges and universities because the professor equivalent of Iron Mike or Juan Soto is there.

[Troy]

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

people pay for an education in order to

Right, people pay for an education and which professionals provide that education?  Obviously those are the people generating the revenue. The motivation for paying for the education is not relevant.  

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Troy said:

Right, people pay for an education and which professionals provide that education?  Obviously those are the people generating the revenue. 

If such is the case, surely education professionals are being paid in proportion to the revenue they generate. If not, they need to smarten up.

[Troy]

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

If such is the case, surely education professionals are being paid in proportion to the revenue they generate. If not, they need to smarten up.

 

I doubt that is done many schools spend a tremendous amount on athletic programs football coached can make more than school presidents.  Again, this goes directly back my argument -- valuing athletics over intellect.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Troy said:

I doubt that is done many schools spend a tremendous amount on athletic programs football coached can make more than school presidents.  Again, this goes directly back my argument -- valuing athletics over intellect.

Right.  I think we're both making the same point without argument.