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[aka Contrarian]

@Troy. I guess my sarcasm was lost on you, I wasn't serious about the gods "singling me out". I was just establishing a lead-in to compare pioneer to an innocuous nuisance gnat who flits around annoying  people.

Sara was the poster who I would get into it with back in the day, and with good reason. She  would come at me and I refused to let her ageist insults go unanswered. The reason you banned her was because she called me a "nigger bitch". 

Even Mzuri and I clashed because she tried to portray me as a lonely ol "cat lady", and lied about me saying  I used to sling  bags at the post office, even searching through the archives to back up this claim but couldn't find any proof of her false allegation. All of this was  aided and abetted by pioneer, I might add.

And of course there was Kola Boof. That's where I got my combat stripes. Those were the good ol days. Actually, we had a love-hate relationship because she was so mercurial. When she found out how old I was she wanted to pay me homage. Even sent me one of her books.

 

I don't even know where to start when it comes to   pioneer.   Always trying to portray himself as just kiddin' after he does his malicious dirty work, lying and  exaggerating and  even trying to  gaslight me.  I  have  nothing but CONTEMPT for this treacherous pest. 'Have aways found him irritating although he thinks differently because that's not the scenario he creates in his warped little narcissist world. He's really a piece of work.  Glad I don't have to be around him. 

 

All I'll say in defense of myself is that I don't start stuff. Nor do I back down when I am provoked. Whatever. Let the chips fall where they may.  

If I die tomorrow, I don't think I'll be missing anything. 

                 zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[umbrarchist]

They only made it back down because of gravity.

 

Female drivers!

.

[Pioneer1]

and lied about me saying  I used to sling  bags at the post office

 

LOL

 

That was funny.
I'll have to give her a pat on the back for that one.

 

[aka Contrarian]

On 4/25/2025 at 7:58 AM, umbrarchist said:

They only made it back down because of gravity.

.

Gravity is some powerful shit. And it doesn't cost anything!

[Pioneer1]

Gravity doesn't seem to be having that much of an effect on my girl Gayle King!



Homegirl wearing the SHIT out of that blue jumpsuit....lol.

Nah....
No amount of surgery can give a 70 year old woman THAT kind of form and figure.
That's a product of Mother Nature.

....with her long legged ass, lol.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Gravity doesn't seem to be having that much of an effect on my girl Gayle King!

Homegirl wearing the SHIT out of that blue jumpsuit....lol.

Nah....
No amount of surgery can give a 70 year old woman THAT kind of form and figure.
That's a product of Mother Nature.

No doubt Gayle is keeping herself in shape.  Still, I wouldn't be surprised if she's wearing spanx underneath that jumpsuit.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfDI just saw an interview with Smokey Robinson. He's 85. And quite lucid. About to go on tour. But he looked like he'd been embalmed, and men just can't pull off wearing make-up.

Denzel seems to have aged over night. He just turned 70.

And so it goes...

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfDI just saw an interview with Smokey Robinson. He's 85. And quite lucid. About to go on tour. But he looked like he'd been embalmed, and men just can't pull off wearing make-up.

Our beloved Smokey is always casket-ready with the make-up he wears. Whenever he leaves the planet the mortician's job will be easy.

 

2 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Denzel seems to have aged over night. He just turned 70.

And so it goes...

Yep. Seems like just yesterday he was in his mid-30s.

 

Denzel is my favorite actor. He's still a bad man on that big screen.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if she's wearing spanx underneath that jumpsuit.
 

DMX said...that's Ok...that's Alright...lol.

I told you when it comes to women over a certain age I grade them on a CURVE.
 

If a woman needs to shoe-horn on some spanx to wear under her clothes to feel good about her self and keep everything on her body pointing and moving in the same direction...lol....I wouldn't be mad at her for it.
 

Later on that night we'll both be giggling at how all of that "goodness" is a-poppin' out like Pillsbury biscuits as she peels it off....lol.

[Troy]

12 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Denzel seems to have aged over night. He just turned 70.

I remember telling someone a couple of year back (maybe I posted it here) that I look better than Denzel Washington. Now that is a purely subjective opinion, but it’s arguable and I don’t have access to all the remediation that rich people do. 

 

It seems to me that people do, or can age overnight, but I think in Washington’s case as in most celebrities, we see them in movies in which they were younger and made up to look much better CGI, AI, Photoshop, and then we see them in person or in a current interview and the differences can be stark.

 

have you observed that people age overnight or age gradually was it just a mixed bag? 

[Pioneer1]

Troy

I'm not sure about "overnight" but it's commonly believed that just one term (4 years) as President of the Unted States ages people by atleast a decade.

Look at Bill Clinton, Bush (either one), or Obama BEFORE they become POTUS and afterwards and you'll see far more grey and wrinkles on them than the average person gains in a mere 4 years.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I told you when it comes to women over a certain age I grade them on a CURVE.

Definitely. Gotta take years, mileage, baggage and gravity into consideration. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If a woman needs to shoe-horn on some spanx to wear under her clothes to feel good about her self and keep everything on her body pointing and moving in the same direction...lol....I wouldn't be mad at her for it.
 

Later on that night we'll both be giggling at how all of that "goodness" is a-poppin' out like Pillsbury biscuits as she peels it off....lol.

Yep. Makes for fun conversation piece leading up to playtime after the biscuits pop out.

[aka Contrarian]

@TroyI hadn't seen Denzel in a movie in quite a while and when I saw him recently his  hair and beard were gray. I guess he was made up for his appearance in the GLADIATOR sequel. 

"Aging over night" in a moreorless a figure of speech. Just like people "getting better with age". That's what my husband used to tell me because I was scrawny when we got married. But I laughed at his jokes and smiled when we kissed. 

 

What's up with pioneer?? He's all over the place, like dog shit, barging into conversations with a lot  of effusive drivel, spamming the post with Gayle pictures, obviously trying to prove something.  Too bad I don't have a can of RAID.

Thinks he's so hip, and the square assed clown doesn't  even know the different between the words "boule" and "bougie".  Pathetic ol windbag.

[Pioneer1]

12 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

What's up with pioneer?? He's all over the place, like dog shit, barging into conversations with a lot  of effusive drivel, spamming the post with Gayle pictures, obviously trying to prove something.  Too bad I don't have a can of RAID.

Thinks he's so hip, and the square assed clown doesn't  even know the different between the words "boule" and "bougie".  Pathetic ol windbag.

Like I sad, living in her mind rent free....lol.

 

[aka Contrarian]

You never said that. Just another of your fantasies. You're seriously afflicted with cognitive dissonance syndrome. 

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

 

Thinks he's so hip, and the square assed clown doesn't  even know the different between the words "boule" and "bougie".  Pathetic ol windbag.

And apparently YOU don't even know what the "boule" is.

If you hadn't dropped out of college, maybe you would have...lol.

Ask your friends Troy or Mel about the boule, maybe they'll explain it to you.
I won't waste my time and you wouldn't believe me anyway.
 

[aka Contrarian]

I know what the boule is. It is a gathering of all the black Fraternal and Sorority  organizations.

Not an adjective to describe a black soap opera,

[Pioneer1]

8 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

I know what the boule is. It is a gathering of all the black Fraternal and Sorority  organizations.

Not an adjective to describe a black soap opera,

Then why would you accuse me of confusing boule with bougie?

[aka Contrarian]

Because, like I said, "Beyond The Gates " is a show case for the "bougie" lifestyle  not the "boule", which is how you labeled it in your disparaging post.

Do YOU know what "bougie" means and what its origin is?Dummy.

[Pioneer1]

13 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Because, like I said, "Beyond The Gates " is a show case for the "bougie" lifestyle  not the "boule", which is how you labeled it in your disparaging post.

Do YOU know what "bougie" means and what its origin is?Dummy.

Why would you ask questions from a "dummy"?

Let me guess...

The popularity of the word "bougie" in our community (or atleast before the 90s...not so much after) has to more to do with the mistake a lot of early Black leaders made aligning themselves with Marxism and it's philosophy thinking it would be some sort of better alternative to capitalism.
 

[aka Contrarian]

Oooooh, puleeze. "Bougie" is short for Bourgeoise", which is the French word for Middleclass. Blacks adopted this shortened term around the late 1970s when they began to graduate colleges and enter professions and own fine homes and  fancy cars. Nowadays, it has a somewhat negative connotation, referring to extremely  materialistic black folks living high on the hog.

[Pioneer1]

58 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Oooooh, puleeze. "Bougie" is short for Bourgeoise", which is the French word for Middleclass. Blacks adopted this shortened term around the late 1970s when they began to graduate colleges and enter professions and own fine homes and  fancy cars. Nowadays, it has a somewhat negative connotation, referring to extremely  materialistic black folks living high on the hog.

It goes back further than that when a lot of Black leaders in the 30s and 40s studied the philosophies of Communism and the terms "bourgeoise" and "proletariat" were introduced to us.

In Marxism the term "Bourgeoise" means more than JUST middle class but UPPER middle class.
A more accurate term would be Professional class and Small business owner

Just like Proletariat is the working class.....masses.

It's not just a term thrown around by young folks in the 70s.


When I joked about that show being "Boule Behind The Gates".....how in the hell did you think so many rich niggaz  GOT to be Bougie in the first place???



As MEMBERS of the Boule their positions afforded them a comfortable "bougie" lifestyle....lol.

[aka Contrarian]

HoHum. And the slippery eeI rides again. I don't agree with your convoluted subtefuge. The slang term "bougie" is what it is:Pop culture lingo.

The sociological concept of the   Black Bourgeoise  dates back to 1903  and  W.E.B. Dubose's  Talented Tenth concept and has nothing to do with all the  Marxist ideology you cited.

Connecting the boule to the

Beyond the Gates soap opera is a stretch.  Attending boule has no direct connection to being wealthy because you don't  have to be rich  to become a member of a fraternity or  sorority.

And why didn't you make all your claims in the first place instead spouting a lot  of the "useless information" about some 1990s movement?? Why? Because you didn't know what I wasl talking about till you looked it up. 

[Pioneer1]

39 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

HoHum. And the slippery eeI rides again. I don't agree with your convoluted subtefuge. The slang term "bougie" is what it is:Pop culture lingo.

The sociological concept of the   Black Bourgeoise  dates back to 1903  and  W.E.B. Dubose's  Talented Tenth concept and has nothing to do with all the  Marxist ideology you cited.

Connecting the boule to the

Beyond the Gates soap opera is a stretch.  Attending boule has no direct connection to being wealthy because you don't  have to be rich  to become a member of a fraternity or  sorority.

And why didn't you make all your claims in the first place instead spouting a lot  of the "useless information" about some 1990s movement?? Why? Because you didn't know what I wasl talking about till you looked it up. 

Nah woman, YOU'RE the one who's got it all twisted because YOU are the one running around trying to "research" the shit I'm telling you....lol.

I don't need to research it because I've BEEN knowing it....for decades.
Stop thinking you know everything and you MIGHT learn something....even from a "dummy"...lol

First of all "bougie" didn't come from the "talented tenth" concept, but the Boule itself did....in part.

Second the Boule (which isn't it's official name) is an organization for MEN....not women (who have their own organization).
So there are no sororities involved.

Maybe if your attitude wasn't so shitty some of your well educated girlfriends might have invited you to some of their parties and shared more information with you about their clubs and organizations....lol


For those who really want to know the truth, a lot of it was influenced by the Prince Hall Masons who are an organization of men but also have a counter part for women called Eastern Stars.  But these were mostly poor and working class people though, so the wealthy and professional Black folks decided to form their own secret organization along similar lines....one for men and the other for women.

That's enough for YOUR brain to handle...lol.

That FRACTION of knowledge I just dropped really wasn't for you anyway, but for those who are curious about how much I actually DO know....lol.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1As usual you invoke your straw man retorts by contradicting what i  didn't say. What I did say was, "bougie" is simply  pop culture slang. And I did not deny that  the boule had a connection  with the DuBose talented tenth. What I further pointed out  was that  just because you are a Greek or  belong to the boule  doesn't mean you are automatically wealthy so the connection between boule and the well-off family on  the Beyond the Gates soap opera wasn't a "given"  as you implied.

Furthermore, Sororities are members of the Divine Nine so they do have an affiliation with the boule,  something  you denied.

Moreover in 1951, my first year at the University of Illinois, I resided  in the Alpha Kappa Alpha (Gamma Chapter) sorority house, and I and the girls in my pledge group remained bonded and friends all of our lives. And, incidentally,  I can tell you that there was no worship of Greek gods there as you falsely claimed.

Finally, my father and brother were both members of the Jeptha Lodge chapter of Prince Hall Masons. And my mother was an Easter Star Worthy  Matron of Dorcas Chapter, #92. So stfu. You didn't school me on nothing. All you did was emit a lot of superfluous hot-air like the wind bag that you are. 

[Troy]

11 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Moreover in 1951, my first year at the University of Illinois, I resided  in the Alpha Kappa Alpha (Gamma Chapter) sorority house, and I and the girls in my pledge group remained bonded and friends all of our lives. And, incidentally,  I can tell you that there was no worship of Greek gods there as you falsely claimed.

Finally, my father and brother were both members of the Jeptha Lodge chapter of Prince Hall Masons. And my mother was an Easter Star Worthy  Matron of Dorcas Chapter, #92.

 

Wow.

 

[Pioneer1]

Cynique


As usual you invoke your straw man retorts by contradicting what i  didn't say. What I did say was, "bougie" is simply  pop culture slang. And I did not deny that  the boule had a connection  with the DuBose talented tenth. What I further pointed out  was that  just because you are a Greek or  belong to the boule  doesn't mean you are automatically wealthy so the connection between boule and the well-off family on  the Beyond the Gates soap opera wasn't a "given"  as you implied.

Furthermore, Sororities are members of the Divine Nine so they do have an affiliation with the boule,  something  you denied.

 

You seem to think Boule = College Fraternity/Sorority

They are NOT the same.

The Boule is NOT an academic fraternity.

Moreover in 1951, my first year at the University of Illinois, I resided  in the Alpha Kappa Alpha (Gamma Chapter) sorority house, and I and the girls in my pledge group remained bonded and friends all of our lives. 
 

Woman please....lol.
That little dancing, holding up candles, and "walking around in circles while chanting" shit you did in college is NOTHING compared to the BIG LEAGUE sororities that you enter into once you get OUT of college and are being considered for positions of power in and by upper class Black society.

So stfu. You didn't school me on nothing.
 

Shut up...you KNOW I been schooling your ass for the past couple of days, lol.

And you're probably going to be occupied for a week TRYING to do as much research as you can on just the little bit of knowledge I JUST dropped on you in these few posts alone!
 

I can tell you that there was no worship of Greek gods there as you falsely claimed.
 

How the hell do YOU know?
You ain't BEEN high enough in any order to find out...lol

You PLEDGED didn't you?
Who do you think you were "pledging" to?
 

You "crossed the burning sands" didn't you?

Do you even know what it MEANS to "cross the burning sands"????

Even most initiates and full fledge members of those organization don't know what it means....but "we" do.

[aka Contrarian]

Finally got around to reading the above BS, having previously  exercised my will power to resist the temptation to get the last word in the dialog between me and what's-his- name. But, curiosity got the best of me. Which is more than I can say for Piognat's tantrum.

Maneuvering through this turd exhibit did, however, bring about a realization.  What I was beholding was the  portrait of a desperate, ego-consumed, arrogant, hysterical fool doing one of the few things he does best;regurgitating  specious arguments full of irrelevance and lies. In his pathetic,  deranged  attempt  to do damage control, Piognat succeeded only  in exposing  how mentally unbalanced he is.

I don't feel the need to respond to any of his befuddled cherry-picked claims and accusations, knowing that I will  simply be providing a crutch for this crippled strawman.  

[Troy]

On 4/28/2025 at 4:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Do you even know what it MEANS to "cross the burning sands"

I thought it was a pretty straightforward metaphor meaning going through the pledge and eventually crossing. If there is some deeper, meaning, please do share it.
 

@aka Contrarian you are one of a kind LOL!

[aka Contrarian]

@TroyOf course I know what "crossing the burning sands" means. And you're right. It's simple enough to figure out, but I'm not keen to discuss the secret rituals  of Greek organizations on a public forum. 

I also refuse to allow Piognat to draw me into a conversation  where he "controls  the narrative". All of this subterfuge he's  clouding the issue with has nothing to do with the original dispute about him using the wrong adjective when referring to the soap

opera "Beyond the Gates".

But his modus operandi is to change the focus and go all off on irrelevant tangents when he can't win an argument.

And his failed attempt  to "school me" by babbling a lot of drivel was a glaring example of him not knowing what the hell he's talking about inasmuch as  his whole premise was based on his WRONG ASSUMPTION about what I "seemed to think".

The only legitimate contribution  Piognat could've made in his attempt to enlighten, was  to point out that I spelled W.E.B. DuBois' name wrong. But he's too ignorant to know that D-u-B-o-s-e was the wrong spelling.

[Pioneer1]

Sillyque Cynique

The only legitimate contribution  Piognat could've made in his attempt to enlighten, was  to point out that I spelled W.E.B. DuBois' name wrong. But he's too ignorant to know that D-u-B-o-s-e was the wrong spelling.
 

This is because I didn't care.
I'm not as petty as you are....lol.

No sexism...but that's some petty feminine shit.
Expect that one if you get into it with another female....not me.


 

 but I'm not keen to discuss the secret rituals  of Greek organizations on a public forum. 
 

"Secret" my ass...
The term "crossing the burning sands" and most of what we've discussed already is pretty common knowledge that can be found all over the internet.

The ORIGIN of that term isn't, but the term itself is.
 

You don't know what the REAL secrets are because you dropped out of college ( to sell "stuff" out of the local post office, maybe????) before you got high enough to learn more...lol

 

And his failed attempt  to "school me" by babbling a lot of drivel was a glaring example of him not knowing what the hell he's talking about inasmuch as  his whole premise was based on his WRONG ASSUMPTION about what I "seemed to think".

But THIS is from a person who THOUGHT that the Boule was:

1. An organization of both males and females
2. Merely the collective of Black college Fraternities and Sororities.

....until I educated yo' ass, lol.

Now...in your own words...you can't resist...lol.
Check it:

exercised my will power to resist the temptation to get the last word
 

Yeah...
Everybody can see this isn't the ONLY thing you're exercising your will power to "resist the temptation of"...lol.

People,
Look at her choice of words:  I also refuse to allow Piognat to draw me into a conversation  where he "controls  the narrative".

 

She didn't say she wouldn't allow me to draw her into a conversation!
She just doesn't want ME to control the narrative.
She doesn't  mind being "draw in" as long as SHE gets to sit in the driver's seat once she's in!

Oh boy.....
 

Foolin' NOBODY but yourself....lol.





 

Troy

I thought it was a pretty straightforward metaphor meaning going through the pledge and eventually crossing. If there is some deeper, meaning, please do share it.
 

I will...if Cynique BEGS me to do so...lol.

Other than that, suffice it to say that the "Black Greeks" (how silly of a term...lol) got it from the White Fraternities who got it from other older White secret societies.
 

But there is a definite origin and meaning to this saying.
 

@aka Contrarian you are one of a kind LOL!
 

She certainly is.
But a kind of WHAT?????

[aka Contrarian]

Blah,blah,blah, - more blather from Piognat, that well known authority on nothing. I'll take Mel's explanation about the sorority/boule alliance ANY DAY over that of a second rate, self important wanna-be who, himself, is not a Greek, nor a college graduate, who is nothing more than a garrulous  blow hard warehouse peon with a god complex who thinks he's infallible and that his half-baked opinions are the gospel truth. But his transparency becomes more evident by the day as he struggles to be relevent

 

@TroyAnd he's certainly not one of a kind! He's just another example of the anxiom about "a little bit of learning being a dangerous thing"; a fool who knows not, and knows not that he knows not.

Pitiful.

[Troy]

6 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@TroyOf course I know what "crossing the burning sands" means. And you're right. It's simple enough to figure out

 

That question was actually for @Pioneer1  I'd imagine some "secrets" are on the net, but since I'm not Greek, I have no way of knowing what is accurate and what is not, so I never bothered to look.  Again, I'm interested in the deeper explanation.

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

I'm surprised.
I knew you had an engineering degree and had a career in academia; I thought you were part of an academic fraternity.
 

What about a professional fraternity?
Most doctors, lawyers, and many engineers are.


 

Again, I'm interested in the deeper explanation.

I'm still waiting on Cynique to BEG me so I can answer your question.

Which you probably wouldn't believe anyway....lol.

When it comes to a lot of Fraternal Orders, Black people often like to COPY what White folks do...without understanding WHY White folks do what they do.

Like I said, many Black societies whether they're fraternities or masonic lodges will COPY what they see White fraternities and lodges do without understanding WHY those White fraternities and lodges practice those rituals in the first place or where they came from.
 

Outside of helping eachother get good jobs (which I actually do respect)....
Niggaz just running around with rings on their fingers, throwing expensive parties and picnics, and keeping secrets over nothing....lol.

[ProfD]

15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

When it comes to a lot of Fraternal Orders, Black people often like to COPY what White folks do...without understanding WHY White folks do what they do.

Like I said, many Black societies whether they're fraternities or masonic lodges will COPY what they see White fraternities and lodges do without understanding WHY those White fraternities and lodges practice those rituals in the first place or where they came from.
 

Niggaz just running around with rings on their fingers, throwing expensive parties and picnics, and keeping secrets over nothing....lol.

Facts. 

 

White folks started fraternal orders and Greek letter organizations for a reason i.e. power networking.  They excluded non-white folks for a long time. 

 

On cue, n8gglets just had to have their own version of that BS.  Of course, it does not hold similar power or weight.  Good excuse to gather and party though.

[aka Contrarian]

The masons, of course, date back to the Egyptian pyamid builders. The Pan Hellenic organizations were inspired by the Phi Beta Kappa honor society which was inspired by the ancient Greek sages. 

At this stage in my life, I really have no great interest in burning sands trivia.  Mostly all of my pledge sisters have passed on and my interests lie elsewhere.

[Pioneer1]

16 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

 

White folks started fraternal orders

 

Actually WE started it for them.....lol

 

 

 

 

Quote

On cue, n8gglets just had to have their own version of that BS.  

 

 

To her credit....Kamala Harris DID try to use her "Divine Nine" connections to her advantage.

 

She tried to...

 

 

Skeeee Weeee

 

...her way into the Whitehouse, lol.

[Pioneer1]

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

 I'll take Mel's explanation about the sorority/boule alliance ANY DAY

What???
Who??

When did Mel drop some knowledge about an alliance between The Boule and Sororities?
I'd like to read it.

Did she PM you or something?

She DOES have a  Sorority Sista "vibe" to her; especially with her education and career....but she doesn't strike me as the type of person who would get into that type of discussion in a group setting with non-members.

Right? @Mel Hopkins ???

She seems like somebody who not only knows how to keep a secret....but could make you forget what you even ASKED her, if you aren't careful.

You start asking her about Sorority hazing rituals and she'll change the subject and start posting graphs and figures about domestic violence and alcohol consumption on college campuses, or some shit....lol.

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

The masons, of course, date back to the Egyptian pyamid builders. The Pan Hellenic organizations were inspired by the Phi Beta Kappa honor society which was inspired by the ancient Greek sages. 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Actually WE started it for them.....lol

 

Of course, you all are correct. White folks have stolen almost everything they have from Black folks, remixed and sold it back to the world including us.

[Troy]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I thought you were part of an academic fraternity.

I’m not a joiner only in recent years have I joined organizations and actively participated in them. I’ve learned I can’t do very much by myself. 

I’ve never been an active member of any black organization. 
 

Pledging a frat during undergrad was the last thing on my mind. Those brothers used to pledge a whole semester or more. It seemed. I didn’t understand what the benefit of it might be. Pledging seem to help getting females, but that has never been a problem for me. I already have plenty of male friends 

 

I just didn’t see the benefit of it. Living in the south however, most of the people I engage with are frat. In New York City, most of the people I engage with were not in a Greek letter organization.

 

It’s cultural here in the south is just assumed you remember of a church.

 

I’m somewhat of an anomaly down here, educated entrepreneur, but don’t go to church not a member of a frat, and not married.

 

3 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Mostly all of my pledge sisters have passed

one disadvantage of living a long life is losing friends that must be hard. I have a group of guys that play poker with regularly. I imagine one day if I live long enough, they won’t be around any longer, and it will be impossible to truly replace them. I’ve known all of them at least 30 years a couple of them more than 55 years. 

[Pioneer1]

Troy

Although I may be an outsider looking in, I do respect those organizations and understand the importance of them....including the Black ones.
 

Outside of the social connections you tend to make through these different collegiate fraternities, the main reason is they want to know how well you can keep secrets and be loyal to an organization.

That way when you graduate and enter adulthood they know they can trust you with more important things.

 

[Troy]

I feel the same way.

[Pioneer1]

This discussion makes me want to watch Spike Lee's School Daze again....lol.
 

G Fi G!
Big Brutha All Migh Tee!

[Mel Hopkins]

On 4/30/2025 at 6:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Skeeee Weeee

 

...her way into the Whitehouse, lol.

And all those hotel reservations dropped like an atom bomb on DC when she lost... my sorors bring serious dollars wherever and whenever we congregate.  

[Pioneer1]

7 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

And all those hotel reservations dropped like an atom bomb on DC when she lost... my sorors bring serious dollars wherever and whenever we congregate.  

Trump allegedly won by pretty wide margins, but perhaps VP Harris' sorority sisters and other supporters should have KEPT those reservations and change their plans from a victory celebration to a "stop the steal" rally and organize to protest, demanding recounts, and investigate claims of voter suppression ....lol.

What would they have had to lose?

One of my biggest issues with the Democrat Party is their refusal to actually fight.

They just silently accepted defeat, no questions asked and move on.
 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

One of my biggest issues with the Democrat Party is their refusal to actually fight.

They just silently accepted defeat, no questions asked and move on.

That is why I believe the political parties are two sides of the same coin. They have one  common objective which is maintaining the system.

[Pioneer1]

7 minutes ago, ProfD said:

That is why I believe the political parties are two sides of the same coin. They have one  common objective which is imaintaining the system.

 

I believe many of the young Black and Latino Democrats....especially at the local level...are sincere.
They don't like the greed, corruption, and cruel callousness they see being inflicted on the American people.
They don't like the homelessness, the poor working conditions, the crime, the police brutality, etc....and they sincerely want to change this.
They KNOW the Republicans aren't going to do shit about it so their only hope is the Democrat Party and they join hoping to have as much of a positive impact as they can.

These are the young Black and Latino Democrats at the local city/county level.

But the White Democrats, especially the ones at the state and national levels like Congress KNOW what's up.
They KNOW they are part of the system and they know that if they don't tow the line and go along with the agenda:
1. They may end up being "deleted"
and
2. Replaced with someone who WILL go along with the agenda

It's like the neighborhood drug dealer.
He recons that what he's doing is bad, but if HE doesn't do it somebody else is just going to come along and do it anyway so HE may as well be the one to make the money.

[Mel Hopkins]

On 5/13/2025 at 6:30 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Trump allegedly won by pretty wide margins

He did not. Two million+ separated them. More people didn't vote for either of the candidates.  But to your point, when have you ever seen PINK & GREEN protests?  We don't do that - we work within the system.  We vote.  Our motto and mission 
 

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated^® was founded on a mission of five basic tenets that have remained unchanged since the sorority’s inception. Our mission is

• to cultivate and encourage high scholastic and ethical standards,
• to promote unity and friendship among college women,
• to study and help alleviate problems concerning girls and women in order to improve their social stature,
• to maintain a progressive interest in college life,
• and to be of “Service to All Mankind.”

[Pioneer1]

One of Kamala's most public/visible supporters was and still is Sunny Hostin from The View




Skee-whaaaaat????


I remember back when Biden became the Democrat nominee and they were discussing his possible picks for VP, Sunny kept pushing for Kamala Harris for that position.
I didn't know what the connection was at the time...lol.

[Troy]

Well it should be know that @Pioneer1’s voluntary financial contributions actually fund this discussion forum. He has never boasted that himself, but is it true.

 

Now obviously that has not stopped me from disagreeing with him, nor has my agreeing with him been a condition of his support. 
 

@aka Contrarian, yes it was Mzuri’s “nigger bitch” comment is what got her banned, but it was a last straw thing. Her tirades were just ad hominem and irrational. She did not add anything to the forum.

 

Kola Boof was another story altogether. A talented writer but gave me a ton of grief… I was willing to put up with she creep, but she managed to run Thumper off which was a huge loss. Then she left after using the site to get the notoriety that she desired.

 

The Kola Book, Cynique, ABM repartee were classic though,