Mel Hopkins Posted October 10 Author Report Posted October 10 10 hours ago, Chevdove said: That is one of the most classic and fabulous wedding celebrations that I have ever seen! Oh My Gosh! I don't know how many times I have watched this. @Mel Hopkins I can't imagine how happy you must feel! Your daughter and her husband are so incredibly beautiful. Again, you look amazing. Thank you! The happy couple is so creative! My son-in-law even came up with the idea for a hotel flag - They designed it, got it made, and the hotel staff even put it up in front of the hotel! 2
Pioneer1 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 On 10/9/2025 at 9:35 PM, aka Contrarian said: You are who needs to mind their own damned business!! You have ZERO class. You have no right to ask Mel those questions! Well she answered them, and had a nice little laugh at the questions! So stop trippin'.....lol. ...sitting up here acting like he's YOUR man or something...lol. Getting all defensive and hostile. Like I'm talking about somebody YOU love.
aka Contrarian Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 @Mel HopkinsSo, in addition to all the Joy and beauty captured on the creative video, thanks to the nosy maliciousness of the bigot who repeatedly expresses disapproval of white guys and the black women who marry them, we now know that the father of your lovely daughters who you "got with" is not a big nosed Jew nor an Italian nor an average WASP in a plaid shirt! Excuse me if I thought pioneer's cross examination of you was in poor taste. 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 5 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: Excuse me if I thought pioneer's cross examination of you was in poor taste. Trust me, she knows. We ALL know. .....you don't know any better.
aka Contrarian Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 14 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Trust me, she knows. We ALL know. .....you don't know any better. You're the last thing in the world I'd trust. Just keep imagining, like the deluded wanna be that you are, that you're something other than a crude poor excuse for a person of good character. Pathetic.
Pioneer1 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 On 10/6/2025 at 9:51 AM, Mel Hopkins said: Not that you all are wedding crashers, but it reminds me - do you know we had actual wedding crashers at the celebration? I can believe it. Because we have "thread crashers" here on this forum! ....walking embarrassments who have nothing better to do but run around the neighborhood in their robe and slippers taking pictures of the moon and cussing at bees who are up in the tree minding their own beeswax. Now you STILL haven't told us about these wedding crashers! What exactly did they do? Did they come to the ceremony and raise a ruckus while you were in that room checking your "rear view"??? BTW..... Ever since I saw that picture I've been meaning to ask you SEVERAL questions...in person....when you find the time....LOL.
aka Contrarian Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 @Mel: and of course we have on- line forums where narcissistic windbags full of hot air like pioneer barge in on everybody's posts seeking attention, spamming the threads with silly pictures and imagined scenarios, seeking the approval others. He's all yours. Thank goodness we have the option to reject who we dislike. 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 3 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: He's all yours. .....which indirectly suggests that YOU had me (or wanted me). You and your Freudian slips....lol.
aka Contrarian Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 33 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: .....which indirectly suggests that YOU had me (or wanted me). You and your Freudian slips....lol. Back to grasping at straws again, and fantasizing. Grow up and get real. Too bad you have nothing better to do on a Saturday night. Loser.
Pioneer1 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 11 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: Too bad you have nothing better to do on a Saturday night. Loser. And you're right here with me; so what does that say about YOU. You remind me of a homeless lady sitting on the sidewalk yelling at other people walking by to "get their life together".....lol.
aka Contrarian Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 yeah, yeah,yeah. So sez the LOSER who has nothing to do on a Saturday night.
Pioneer1 Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 3 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: yeah, yeah,yeah. So sez the LOSER who has nothing to do on a Saturday night. Saturday Night??? This ain't the 50's anymore...lol. Nobody does things on a Saturday Night that they can't do on a Tuesday Night.
aka Contrarian Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Gotcha. Too bad the chronic LOSER has nothing to do.
Mel Hopkins Posted October 12 Author Report Posted October 12 2 hours ago, aka Contrarian said: Excuse me if I thought pioneer's cross examination of you was in poor taste. I didn't think it was in poor taste! Thank you for checking me! I'm so accustomed to people inquiring about my actions that I forget that it is inappropriate. Thank you so much! 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Mel What's inappropriate is another person telling YOU how YOU should react to or feel about. 1
Mel Hopkins Posted October 12 Author Report Posted October 12 13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: What's inappropriate is another person telling YOU how YOU should react to or feel about. You misunderstood me. I know it's inappropriate for others to ask personal information. BUT It happens to me so often that I just answer the question to set the record straight. This way, I feel that no one can claim I've misled them, or they can claim ignorance. But I agree with @aka Contrarian . I'll wait for someone to share their information with me. If they choose not to share, it is their right. I won't ask. For example, we've engaged in conversation on this board for the past 15 years, but have I ever asked you to share a photo, describe yourself, tell me where you live, what you do for a living, if you're poor, wealthy, married, single, white, Latino, First Nation, or Black? Nope, because I respect your position to remain anonymous. Hell, I don't even know your name! Stiil, I answered you because of who you are and how you present yourself. By the way, my ex and I used to wear a lot of plaid shirts for a while . His hair is now gray, but he's a straight, Nordic-type, blonde-haired, blue-eyed man, standing at 6 feet 2 inches. 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Mel we've engaged in conversation on this board for the past 15 years Wow, has it been THAT long???? Kids have went to school and grown up during that time, lol. but have I ever asked you to share a photo Unlike SOME people on this board who constantly ask to see my picture....no. Stiil, I answered you because of who you are and how you present yourself. Mel, I already know that. You already know how I feel about White men with Black women and I wouldn't dare ruin the vibe bringing that up. The problem is Cynique aka The Contradiction....lol. -She doesn't understand people, or how to talk to them! -She doesn't understand what IS appropriate and what is NOT appropriate or what may SEEM inappropriate but actually not offensive depending on the context. -She doesn't understand how a person can ask question ABOUT a person without it being TOO personal. -Because SHE often crosses the line with people and insults people and offends people with HER statements and questions, she makes the mistake of assuming EVERYBODY has that same problem....lol. She simply doesn't understand HOW to properly talk to people with respect and understanding. Which we all understand about her...lol. So when she start apologizing to you for not actually taking time to type out a post of congratulations and compliments for your daughter's wonderful wedding ceremony....I assured her that you were NOT offended! And HOW did I know you were NOT offended? Because like me....you also "know" Cynique and how she is. It's for the same reason she EXPECTED and WANTED you to get offended at the questions I asked and the comments I made. And got MAD AS HELL when you didn't...lol. Poor girl even SNAPPED on you! " Well EXCUSE ME for taking up for you when Pioneer was asking those inappropriate questions he had no right to ask! I won't do that again!" She wanted you to go off on a brutha...lol. His hair is now gray, but he's a straight, Nordic-type, blonde-haired, blue-eyed man, standing at 6 feet 2 inches. Now, as I ponder why yall had a dog in a bow-tie (:09mm).... I wonder why you felt the need to include "straight" as part of his description? I thought that would be a given.
aka Contrarian Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 @Pioneer1Smh. You're such a fool. Not only a loser but a sore loser. A transparent loser, who anybody with any perception sees through. Still grasping at straws.LMAO.
Pioneer1 Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 Cynique As I said before, I know people. You....apparently don't.....lol. Let me "hip" you a little bit to what people actually DO find offensive.............. I'm almost sure Mel doesn't take offense to my teasing of her wedding pictures and videos. But what she probable DOESN'T like is us going back and forth insulting each other in her thread, lol. The difference between me and you is I realize this and do it reluctantly....you don't. Lol....because you don't know any better.
aka Contrarian Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 Funny. Non existent Cynique receives a reply from pioneer who pathetically claimed he doesn't pay attention to aka contrarian who he advises is Cynique's alter ego. Pioneer just can't move on. Cognitive dissonance has him in its grip. He should really seek help. And, as is his usual MO. After he does all his dirty work, trying to get the last word, he steps back and hides behind a "Mr. Nice Guy" facade. In addition to all his other perversions, he's a psychopath! I'm done.
Troy Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 On 10/4/2025 at 5:34 PM, Mel Hopkins said: Yes, that's Chicago; my daughter's new family is from old-school Chicago. In fact, her grandfather-in-law was a writer and journalist who was inducted into the Chicago Literary Hall of Fame. Frank London Brown - Wikipedia Yeah, I've heard of your in-law: https://aalbc.com/authors/Frank+London+Brown. A collection of his short stories was published a couple of years ago (I see I need to add a couple more of his books). Lives are complex individually and collectively. Thanks for sharing your joy with us @Mel Hopkins. You are truly blessed to have the life you have had and to see your daughter celebrate her nuptials on such a grand scale! Being perhaps the only person on Earth who has had the pleasure of meeting both @aka Contrarian and Mel's mom in the flesh. I think the two would get on quite well @Mel Hopkins. What do you think? Peace & Love. 2
Mel Hopkins Posted October 13 Author Report Posted October 13 25 minutes ago, Troy said: Being perhaps the only person on Earth who has had the pleasure of meeting both @aka Contrarian and Mel's mom in the flesh. I think the two would get on quite well @Mel Hopkins. What do you think? OMG Troy, Yes! They would have a blast together! Seriously, fireworks, laughter, and partying! 28 minutes ago, Troy said: Lives are complex individually and collectively. Thanks for sharing your joy with us @Mel Hopkins. You are truly blessed to have the life you have had and to see your daughter celebrate her nuptials on such a grand scale! Thank you! 1
aka Contrarian Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 @TroyGlad you finally showed up! You been MIA. Leave it to you to smooth things over. I never thought about Mel's mom and me bonding, but that makes sense. (We come from a generation when people were more discreet, - and didn't make fools of themselves when trying to defend their indiscretion.) But, in pioneer's case, we to have to consider the source. 1
Troy Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 @aka Contrarian yeah I've been swamped the last few weeks. I even spent a day on Captial Hill working with lobbyists to reduce credit card swipe fees -- fascinating exercise. I missed an opportunity to connect with my man @ProfD but we will catch up. @Delano I know I owe you a response. To make matter worse all my passwords were deleted from my password manger software --twice so I could not log into anything. It is a pain to login into many systems with a password... I can't even login to the admin console here it has been at least a month since I have approved a new account. I also have 2,200 unread emails in my inbox. I there is a better than even money chance that I will delete everything without reading it and change my email address. 2 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 Cynique I'm done. Yeah right. You can't resist....lol. Troy I even spent a day on Captial Hill working with lobbyists to reduce credit card swipe fees Are you serious? I'm sure you're a computer expert, but I'm curious as to why they would tap you for that project.
Troy Posted October 15 Report Posted October 15 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'm sure you're a computer expert, but I'm curious as to why they would tap you for that project. The lobbyists wanted "real people" to tell their stories. There were a bunch of booksellers from across the country who participated. I rolled with folks lobbying for Racetrac and Wawa. Did you know credit card sipe fees was their second largest expense behind salaries? The margins for their operations are less 3 to 4%. MasterCard and Visa have margins of 50% enjoying an effective monopoly and a much larger war chest to keep politicians in their pockets. I used to complain about the government about allowing Google and Meta to run rough shod over the internet and our people. But they get away with it because they have greedy politicians in their pocket. Trump has exploited this to the hilt. This system is broken. I'm not even sure if it is repairable. You need legislators who are unbought and unbossed. We are grasping for straws in desperation first Obama, then Trump. Now the 33-year-old Muslim socialist in NYC has won the democratic nomination for mayor. 1
Pioneer1 Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Troy Did you know credit card sipe fees was their second largest expense behind salaries? I didn't know that. But there is something I HAVE been noticing this past year...... I kind of fell in love with the availability of "tapping" my debit card instead of swiping it through the machine but some establishments don't give you the option to treat your purchase as a "debit" or "credit" when you tap. About half of the establishments that offer a "tapping" as a payment method just automatically treat my debit card like a credit card. Some of them even print out a copy for me to sign. I'm sure they're making more money from transactions being labeled as "credit" than "debit" because the money sits in the account longer where as debit transactions immediately draw the money out. This system is broken. I'm not even sure if it is repairable. Are you sure "broken" is the correct term? Or RIGGED? "Broken" implies that it's not working properly or the way it was designed. However "rigged" implies that it was designed to cheat and mistreat people. Now the 33-year-old Muslim socialist in NYC has won the democratic nomination for mayor. Names. Titles. Yeah, yeah, yeah....... Neely Fuller Jr. warned us about all of these names, religions, political affiliations, and economic systems. He can CALL himself a Muslim....but in Fridays he's going to hold meetings and take care of business like the Jews and Christians He can CALL himself a Socialist but he's going to do business with the billionaires and cater to them and try to promote more capitalism in New York to boost the economy. People can identify with whatever they like or call themselves whatever they want, as long as they continue to bow to the will of the White racists in power who help them get in office. I would have rather seen Eric Adams in that seat, but hey..........
ProfD Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Neely Fuller Jr. warned us about all of these names, religions, political affiliations, and economic systems. He can CALL himself a Muslim....but in Fridays he's going to hold meetings and take care of business like the Jews and Christians He can CALL himself a Socialist but he's going to do business with the billionaires and cater to them and try to promote more capitalism in New York to boost the economy. People can identify with whatever they like or call themselves whatever they want, as long as they continue to bow to the will of the White racists in power who help them get in office. I would have rather seen Eric Adams in that seat, but hey.......... As I always type, follow the money and watch their hands. Most politicians do whatever it takes to enrich their donors, lobbyists and themselves. Mayor Eric Adams is not exempt from being beholden to wealthy powerful folks too.
Troy Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'm sure they're making more money from transactions being labeled as "credit" than "debit" Yeah, MasterCard and Visa make more money. when you tap, the merchant actually pays more because it’s treated as if it’s a credit card not present (non-signature) transaction. That is my understanding anyway. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Are you sure "broken" is the correct term? Or RIGGED? The system is broken and rigged! 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I would have rather seen Eric Adams in that seat, Most New Yorkers that I talk to was not in favor of Eric one of my closest friends called a “scoundrel.”
ProfD Posted Thursday at 04:19 AM Report Posted Thursday at 04:19 AM 15 minutes ago, Troy said: Most New Yorkers that I talk to was not in favor of Eric one of my closest friends called a “scoundrel.” Two potential strikes against Mayor Eric Adams are West Indian lineage and being former law enforcement. That will cause some AfroAmerican men to look at him side-eye.
Pioneer1 Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM Report Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM ProfD Mayor Eric Adams is not exempt from being beholden to wealthy powerful folks too. True; but atleast he's one of "ours". I'd rather have one of ours in that seat than another race or ethnicity. An inch of power is better than NO power. I've mentioned this many times before. If White folks INSIST on being first in this nation and there's little we can do about it, we should atleast strive to be 2nd. Don't sit up and let Indians, Asians, and Latinos take THAT spot too and end up on the bottom.
ProfD Posted Thursday at 09:18 PM Report Posted Thursday at 09:18 PM 27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Mayor Eric Adams is not exempt from being beholden to wealthy powerful folks too. True; but atleast he's one of "ours". I'd rather have one of ours in that seat than another race or ethnicity. An inch of power is better than NO power. What did Mayor Adams do with that inch of power specifically to help Black folks? 27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: If White folks INSIST on being first in this nation and there's little we can do about it, we should atleast strive to be 2nd. If Black folks are going to put in the work striving to be 2nd, they might as well go the extra mile for 1st.
Pioneer1 Posted Thursday at 10:00 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:00 PM ProfD What did Mayor Adams do with that inch of power specifically to help Black folks? Just like Obama. Simply occupying that position as Mayor of the largest city in America is beneficial because it gives us...especially the children... an IMAGE to look up to and strive for. Also, as an AfroAmerican mayor even if he doesn't do things JUST for us specifically....he's much less likely to TARGET us nefariously. I can't say the same for White, Asian, and non-Black Latino mayors. If Black folks are going to put in the work striving to be 2nd, they might as well go the extra mile for 1st 1st spot doesn't simply come by effort, it comes by FORCE. In other words.... They aren't going to just step down and GIVE us the number 1 spot simply because of hard work and going that extra mile. The Bible says "the violent take it by force" Getting to be 1st place usually come by a combination of effort, intelligence, and assertiveness.
Troy Posted Thursday at 10:58 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:58 PM 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'd rather have one of ours in that seat than another race or ethnicity. If the Borther or sista is useless what difference does it make. If the overseer is another enslaved Black man does that help? Does having Clarence Thomas on the Supreme court help?
Pioneer1 Posted Thursday at 11:27 PM Report Posted Thursday at 11:27 PM Troy If the Borther or sista is useless what difference does it make. But he's NOT "useless". As I said before, as long as they aren't directly or actively harming our people then just being in that seat alone is useful. Look at them occupying that position as one less Black man/woman on welfare or on the streets. If the overseer is another enslaved Black man does that help? It's a step up. Would it be better for them ALL to be slaves and at the bottom? Would that be more "honorable" in your opinion? Atleast a Black overseer will have a little more access to the Big House and could potentially be of help. Does having Clarence Thomas on the Supreme court help? No. But he actually HARMS Black people by supporting anti-Black policies.
ProfD Posted Friday at 02:01 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:01 AM On 10/16/2025 at 6:00 PM, Pioneer1 said: Just like Obama. Simply occupying that position as Mayor of the largest city in America is beneficial because it gives us...especially the children... an IMAGE to look up to and strive for. Also, as an AfroAmerican mayor even if he doesn't do things JUST for us specifically....he's much less likely to TARGET us nefariously. I can't say the same for White, Asian, and non-Black Latino mayors. Merely having Black people in positions doesn't benefit our people. Politicians are elected to serve the needs of their constituents. The reason many politicians get rich is because they helped others make more money. On 10/16/2025 at 6:00 PM, Pioneer1 said: 1st spot doesn't simply come by effort, it comes by FORCE. In other words.... They aren't going to just step down and GIVE us the number 1 spot simply because of hard work and going that extra mile. The Bible says "the violent take it by force" Exactly. Anything else is most likely in exercise in futility. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: But he's NOT "useless". As I said before, as long as they aren't directly or actively harming our people then just being in that seat alone is useful. Look at them occupying that position as one less Black man/woman on welfare or on the streets. The job of politicians isn't to warm a seat and collect a check. They are supposed to make sure resources get to their constituents. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If the overseer is another enslaved Black man does that help? It's a step up. Would it be better for them ALL to be slaves and at the bottom? Would that be more "honorable" in your opinion? Atleast a Black overseer will have a little more access to the Big House and could potentially be of help. History has shown us past to present that Black people being in positions doesn't help our race. Black overseers were the main people who snitched on runaway slaves and/or plans of escape. It was a house n8gglet who sold out Nat Turner. He got that brotha killed. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Does having Clarence Thomas on the Supreme court help? No. But he actually HARMS Black people by supporting anti-Black policies. Classic example of a Black man warming a seat who clearly doesn't a f8ck about his own people. He should've been snatched up by the drop squad a long time ago. 1
Pioneer1 Posted Friday at 09:19 PM Report Posted Friday at 09:19 PM ProfD Merely having Black people in positions doesn't benefit our people. It benefits THAT person. So it actually DOES benefit our people. Politicians are elected to serve the needs of their constituents. Politicians are elected to serve the needs of those who go them in office. Whether it's those who voted for them OR those entities who provided the money to get them into office. The job of politicians isn't to warm a seat and collect a check. They are supposed to make sure resources get to their constituents. According to the encyclopedia, yes. History has shown us past to present that Black people being in positions doesn't help our race. SOME Black people who made it to higher positions helped SOME Black people. They didn't help the "entire" race. Who has? But a lot of our people have been helped by those who used their position closer to "massa" to secure benefits for themselves and their loved ones. You can't save EVERYBODY. It was a house n8gglet who sold out Nat Turner. He got that brotha killed. My question for you is what is the alternative? For EVERY slave to be a "field nigga" until they all decide to revolt? It's human nature for people to seek a path to better themselves and make life easier for themselves and their families. Even at the expense of others.
ProfD Posted Friday at 10:55 PM Report Posted Friday at 10:55 PM 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: It benefits THAT person. So it actually DOES benefit our people. If it is all about an individual or a handful of people *making it*, there is no need to discuss any type of Black unity. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: SOME Black people who made it to higher positions helped SOME Black people. They didn't help the "entire" race. Who has? But a lot of our people have been helped by those who used their position closer to "massa" to secure benefits for themselves and their loved ones. You can't save EVERYBODY. OTOH, everyone can *benefit* is there was real Black unity. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: My question for you is what is the alternative? For EVERY slave to be a "field nigga" until they all decide to revolt? It's human nature for people to seek a path to better themselves and make life easier for themselves and their families. Even at the expense of others. As I've mentioned in previous dialog on this subject, violence would have been the better alternative. Despite slavery, lynching, water hoses and dogs biting up to modern day executions by police and racists, Black folks have depended on non-violent resistance. The slaves would have been better off if they had united, got on code, armed themselves, come up with a plan to escape and killed the slave master and his family and employees. Colonizers have done it throughout history. They form an army. Invade another country. Kill the resistance. Subjugate the rest. Fear of death has kept Black folks oppressed more than anything else. There is a reason one has to fight for freedom. There is only one way to protect manhood...violence. A man has to be capable of violence in order to protect himself and his family and tribe. If the question is why *fight* a battle that is seemingly unwinnable...being any type of *slave* is a slow death. The Israelis, Palestinians, Ukrainians and Russians are dying by the thousands for nothing. Black folks are seemingly unwilling to die to be free from the system of racism white supremacy.
Pioneer1 Posted Saturday at 12:18 AM Report Posted Saturday at 12:18 AM ProfD If it is all about an individual or a handful of people *making it*, there is no need to discuss any type of Black unity. I knew you'd get it! Just joking bro....lol. It's always been about INDIVIDUAL making it! I thought you knew. You and your family are the focus. The #1. Unity is only beneficial if it helps YOU become more successful! Which is why there is no need to unite with losers and failures who can't get their shit together. You're better off on your own doing your own thing. OTOH, everyone can *benefit* is there was real Black unity. ONLY if they are united in SUCCESS. You ain't benefiting by being united under FAILURE and POVERTY. You have a certain amount of "Black unity" in prison. A bunch of niggas crowded together living under the same rules, in the same conditions, wearing the same cloths. What good is THAT "unity"??? The benefits of unity only come when they are united for the purposes of success and progress. As I've mentioned in previous dialog on this subject, violence would have been the better alternative. Only if that violence was INTELLIGENTLY orchestrated and carried out. Remember, they've had many many slave revolts....most of which were violent....but many of them failed. Despite slavery, lynching, water hoses and dogs biting up to modern day executions by police and racists, Black folks have depended on non-violent resistance. Perhaps this is because they've seen what happens when Black folks get out of pocket with the authorities. The slaves would have been better off if they had united, got on code, armed themselves, come up with a plan to escape and killed the slave master and his family and employees. You could also say a pet doesn't have to wait on it's owner to feed them or let them go outside. They could learn how to go to the cabinet and get THEIR OWN food and learn how to open the door to LET THEMSELVES out. Well.... They WOULD if they had sense enough to...lol. Why don't they? Fear of death has kept Black folks oppressed more than anything else. I think IGNORANCE would be give "fear of death" a run for it's money for that #1 spot. A man has to be capable of violence in order to protect himself and his family and tribe. It takes more than just violence. It takes BRAINS. And once you over throw your oppressor you have to be able to build or atleast maintain a functioning society equal to if not greater than his own. You don't killed off Massa and his family and burnt up all the crops. That was ACT I What about ACT II ? Pretending ain't no more White folks around coming to investigate what happened... Now what? Back to the fields to plant more food to eat. Back to the forest to chop down some trees to build houses. Freedom isn't as simply as just getting rid of White oppression, but it's about building a civilization of our own to sustain ourselves.
ProfD Posted Saturday at 03:02 AM Report Posted Saturday at 03:02 AM On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: It's always been about INDIVIDUAL making it! I thought you knew. There have been individuals who made it. That has done nothing for nation-building and replacing the system of racism white supremacy. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: You have a certain amount of "Black unity" in prison. A bunch of niggas crowded together living under the same rules, in the same conditions, wearing the same cloths. What good is THAT "unity"??? That whole situation is dysfunctional. Prisoners are not the model of unity. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: Only if that violence was INTELLIGENTLY orchestrated and carried out. Remember, they've had many many slave revolts....most of which were violent....but many of them failed. Middle Easterners have been fighting for hundreds of years for one reason or another. Violence is ongoing until there is victory or surrender or death. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: Perhaps this is because they've seen what happens when Black folks get out of pocket with the authorities. Fear of death. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: You could also say a pet doesn't have to wait on it's owner to feed them or let them go outside. They could learn how to go to the cabinet and get THEIR OWN food and learn how to open the door to LET THEMSELVES out. Well.... They WOULD if they had sense enough to...lol. Why don't they? Pets are animals. Slaves were human beings. Big difference. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: I think IGNORANCE would be give "fear of death" a run for it's money for that #1 spot. There's no shortage of highly intelligent Black folks who are afraid to die. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: A man has to be capable of violence in order to protect himself and his family and tribe. It takes more than just violence. It takes BRAINS. It isn't brain power that is going into thousands of people being killed in ongong wars. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: And once you over throw your oppressor you have to be able to build or atleast maintain a functioning society equal to if not greater than his own. You don't killed off Massa and his family and burnt up all the crops. Black people were the 1st civilization. We already know how to work the land and survive. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: Pretending ain't no more White folks around coming to investigate what happened... That's fear. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: Now what? Back to the fields to plant more food to eat. Back to the forest to chop down some trees to build houses. They were already doing the work. On 10/17/2025 at 8:18 PM, Pioneer1 said: Freedom isn't as simply as just getting rid of White oppression, but it's about building a civilization of our own to sustain ourselves. Freedom is about getting rid of any forms ot oppression. Plenty Black people all over the planet have been taking care of themselves just fine for centuries without white oppression. It is unfortunate to think or believe AfroAmericans cannot survive without being underneath white folks.
Troy Posted Saturday at 01:54 PM Report Posted Saturday at 01:54 PM On 10/16/2025 at 7:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Atleast a Black overseer will have a little more access to the Big House and could potentially be of help. No. I Black overseer then and today is part of the problem. 16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: SOME Black people who made it to higher positions helped SOME Black people. They didn't help the "entire" race. Who has? Marcus Garvey. 13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I think IGNORANCE would be give "fear of death" a run for it's money for that #1 spot. I tend to agree with this statement. Humans have evolved to preserve themselves most strive to do. If every African were not ignorant to the fact that they were being transported to a foreign land to be worked to death and that their descendants would suffer the same fate for generations -- I doubt many of those ships would have made it across Atlantic.
ProfD Posted Saturday at 07:25 PM Report Posted Saturday at 07:25 PM 5 hours ago, Troy said: I tend to agree with this statement. Humans have evolved to preserve themselves most strive to do. Through greed and power, white folks will start conflicts and wars; fight and die in order to conquer other people. 5 hours ago, Troy said: If every African were not ignorant to the fact that they were being transported to a foreign land to be worked to death and that their descendants would suffer the same fate for generations -- I doubt many of those ships would have made it across Atlantic. Many of those Africans did not have a choice in whether or not they got on the ships. Thousands of African chose the ocean as their final destination instead of being enslaved. Once they realized the program was slavery, surely many of them took their own lives in one way or another too. The natural instinct of a human is to survive regardless of condition or circumstances. Fight or flight is part of that calculus.
Pioneer1 Posted Saturday at 09:57 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:57 PM ProfD There have been individuals who made it. That has done nothing for nation-building and replacing the system of racism white supremacy. But for that ONE individual, they have found success and that is a good thing. One is better than NONE. A successful community starts with INDIVIDUAL successes. House by house, block by block, city by city. If all Black folks focused on their own INDIVIDUAL success instead of being jealous of and fighting eachother...that alone would put us back on top. That whole situation is dysfunctional. Prisoners are not thr model of unity. But YOUR focus and premise seems to suggest that "Black Unity" is the key to success. I'm simply providing you an illustration of Black men who are together and united but are NOT very successful according to most people's idea of "success". Middle Easterners have been fighting for hundreds of years for one reason or another. And where has it gotten them? Look at Gaza...or what's left of it. Fear of death. Not just death, but a PAINFUL death. And torture. And imprisonment. For what? To do what? Black people were the 1st civilization. We already know how to work the land and survive. True. But most Black people want to do MORE than just "survive". They want to live a nice comfortable life with nice cars, air conditioned homes, and many want to smoke that fake ass weed. So they'd rather live UNDER a ruler who can provide them with that, than be on their own where they feel then can ONLY manage basic food, clothing, and shelter at this point in their development. Freedom is about getting rid of any forms ot oppression. Nobody is free. Including White folks. Plenty Black people all over the planet have been taking care of themselves just fine for centuries without white oppression. I agree. And we will continue to do so in the future. It is unfortunate to think or believe AfroAmericans cannot survive without being underneath white folks It's unfortunate that so many AfroAmericans today don't even have a desire to PROVE that thought or belief wrong. Troy Marcus Garvey. Well first of all, Marcus Garvey worked primarily with Black AMERICANS and other Black people in the Caribbean and South America...not ALL Black folks. Second, I'll give you that Marcus Garvey helped Black people who WANTED to be helped. But even the Honorable Marcus Garvey said that some Black folks ain't no good. They ain't no good here in America and won't be any good in Africa. If every African were not ignorant to the fact that they were being transported to a foreign land to be worked to death and that their descendants would suffer the same fate for generations -- I doubt many of those ships would have made it across Atlantic. Related to that statement, here's a clip you may find interesting. Check it out: 1
ProfD Posted Sunday at 02:08 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:08 AM 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If all Black folks focused on their own INDIVIDUAL success instead of being jealous of and fighting eachother...that alone would put us back on top. There's no shortage of individually successful Black people and communities filled with them. That's why there are so many tribes. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: But YOUR focus and premise seems to suggest that "Black Unity" is the key to success. Black unity is a key to success and nation-building. However, fragmented tribes make it impossible. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Middle Easterners have been fighting for hundreds of years for one reason or another. And where has it gotten them? Look at Gaza...or what's left of it. Fear of death. Not just death, but a PAINFUL death. And torture. And imprisonment. For what? To do what? Those questions are exactly why Black folks have adapted to the system of racism white supremacy. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: But most Black people want to do MORE than just "survive". They want to live a nice comfortable life with nice cars, air conditioned homes, and many want to smoke that fake ass weed. Those things are not hard to obtain. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: So they'd rather live UNDER a ruler who can provide them with that, than be on their own where they feel then can ONLY manage basic food, clothing, and shelter at this point in their development. Black folks don't want to live under a ruler. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Nobody is free. Including White folks. Ask white people if they feel imprisoned. You know the rest.
Pioneer1 Posted Sunday at 09:03 PM Report Posted Sunday at 09:03 PM ProfD Black unity is a key to success and nation-building. However, fragmented tribes make it impossible. Those "tribes" have to find something to be united and rallied around. Or perhaps....we need major power to FORCE all of the tribes to unite; like the Romans forced most of the wild and warring European tribes to unite and form the continent of Europe. Those questions are exactly why Black folks have adapted to the system of racism white supremacy. So the fact that Black folks haven't formed weapons strong enough to OVERCOME that system, isn't the reason? Those things are not hard to obtain. Not sure how hard or easy, but how many African nations have obtained them ALONE without the help of Whites or Asians? How many Black people...AfroAmerican, Caribbean, or African...even MAKE luxury cars? I mean from digging the raw material out of the ground to owning and operating the factory to make the car? If it's THAT easy, and you know how much we love nice cars....seems like we should be doing it. Black folks don't want to live under a ruler. I think you better speak for YOURSELF on that one. A whole lot of Black folks are CONTENT under this racist system and a lot are HAPPY under it. Ask white people if they feel imprisoned. You know the rest I didn't say they were imprisoned, I just said they weren't free. Nobody is free in a society. Free means "unrestricted". Nobody can do or go or say whatever they want. Everybody is subject to a CERTAIN DEGREE of rules and restrictions....some more than others.
ProfD Posted Monday at 02:34 AM Report Posted Monday at 02:34 AM 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Those "tribes" have to find something to be united and rallied around. Civil Rights wasn't enough to unify all Black tribes. That was 60 years ago. There's nothing to force it now. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Or perhaps....we need major power to FORCE all of the tribes to unite; like the Romans forced most of the wild and warring European tribes to unite and form the continent of Europe. The system of racism white supremacy is the force that created the tribes. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Those questions are exactly why Black folks have adapted to the system of racism white supremacy. So the fact that Black folks haven't formed weapons strong enough to OVERCOME that system, isn't the reason? The weapons already exist. There are Black folks who kmow how to use them. They aren't willing to use them against the enemy. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Not sure how hard or easy, but how many African nations have obtained them ALONE without the help of Whites or Asians? We would have to ask those African nations why they do business through foreigners. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: How many Black people...AfroAmerican, Caribbean, or African...even MAKE luxury cars? I mean from digging the raw material out of the ground to owning and operating the factory to make the car? If it's THAT easy, and you know how much we love nice cars....seems like we should be doing it. Black folks have become content as consumers. We don't teach a producer mindset. Otherwise, Black folks can build anything if/when we have no other choices...necessity. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I think you better speak for YOURSELF on that one. A whole lot of Black folks are CONTENT under this racist system and a lot are HAPPY under it. Black people have become complacent under the system of racism white supremacy. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I didn't say they were imprisoned, I just said they weren't free. Nobody is free in a society. Free means "unrestricted". Nobody can do or go or say whatever they want. Everybody is subject to a CERTAIN DEGREE of rules and restrictions....some more than others. Spend a day at the courthouse and witness how the *rules* are different for white folks. I understand where you're coming from in the literal sense of freedom. Only certain people are unrestricted...above the law.
Pioneer1 Posted Monday at 10:16 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:16 PM ProfD Civil Rights wasn't enough to unify all Black tribes. That was 60 years ago. There's nothing to force it now. A collapsed civilization might do the trick...lol. When there aren't enough White folks to support them, that will FORCE most of our people to put their petty differences to the side and DO FOR SELF. The system of racism white supremacy is the force that created the tribes. Perhaps. But some say Black folks were divided and warring against eachother LONG before White folks even existed. Some of the bow-tie brothers on the corner would say Black folks were already in "tribes" before White folks were even a THOUGHT in the mind of Yakub...lol. We would have to ask those African nations why they do business through foreigners. Why ask questions you already know the answers to? For the conversation, or something???? Otherwise, Black folks can build anything if/when we have no other choices...necessity. I agree. Which is why I said what I said at the beginning of this post...lol. Only certain people are unrestricted...above the law. Even Trump isn't really free. He has to answer to those powers...that you don't see....who put him in and is keeping him in.
ProfD Posted Monday at 11:49 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:49 PM 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: A collapsed civilization might do the trick...lol. When there aren't enough White folks to support them, that will FORCE most of our people to put their petty differences to the side and DO FOR SELF. This civilization won't collapse in our lifetime. As a result, Black folks will continue making the best of the situation under the system of racism white supremacy. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: But some say Black folks were divided and warring against eachother LONG before White folks even existed. Some of the bow-tie brothers on the corner would say Black folks were already in "tribes" before White folks were even a THOUGHT in the mind of Yakub...lol. Sure. Tribes are natural part of human existence. Strategic alliances are usually formed when there is common enemy. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Why ask questions you already know the answers to? For the conversation, or something???? Confirmation. Make sure the information is correct. No assumptions. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Even Trump isn't really free. He has to answer to those powers...that you don't see....who put him in and is keeping him in. He's freely willing to answer to those powers. He's not being imprisoned or oppressed.
Pioneer1 Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM ProfD As a result, Black folks will continue making the best of the situation under the system of racism white supremacy. Can you blame us? Lol...how viable or practical are the other alternatives? Sure. Tribes are natural part of human existence. Strategic alliances are usually formed when there is common enemy. Unless that enemy is smart enough to step in between and INTENSIFY the separation that already exists between those tribes. Confirmation. Make sure the information is correct. No assumptions. Do you think you'll even GET the truth from these African leaders as to why so many sell out their own nations to foreigners? You can look at it for what it is and know it's for greed and selfishness. They aren't going to admit that though. He's freely willing to answer to those powers. He's not being imprisoned or oppressed He's BEHOLDEN to the powers above him that put him in.
ProfD Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM 4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Can you blame us? Lol...how viable or practical are the other alternatives? No need to question and/or explore alternatives when comfortable and complacent. 4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Unless that enemy is smart enough to step in between and INTENSIFY the separation that already exists between those tribes. To do nothing insures being divided and conquered. 4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Do you think you'll even GET the truth from these African leaders as to why so many sell out their own nations to foreigners? You can look at it for what it is and know it's for greed and selfishness. They aren't going to admit that though. Probably not. Give them a chance to answer. Deal with them accordingly even if it means no contact. 4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: He's BEHOLDEN to the powers above him that put him in. It is still of his freewill. He signed up for it. He wasn't forced.
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