Mejorando La Raza

[Pioneer1]

Self hatred and the desire to procreate with and blend into White society isn't exclusive to just one or two groups but can be find among people around the planet.

Among Latinos, they have something called "Mejorando La Raza" which translates into "Bettering The Race"

It's a custom found through out Latin America and Latino culture that basically advises ALL Latinos to seek either:
-White Latinos
-White Anglos
-or atleast lighter skinned Latinos

...to marry and mate with so that the children will come out lighter and closer to White; which they consider "better".

Infact, in some cases they can just skip the "marry" part and just MATE with White people and those children will be accepted into the family regardless as to the circumstances by which they were brought into the world.


Does this sound familiar to anybody?

[aka Contrarian]

This from a someone who is wallowing in the cesspool of white male derangement syndrome. 

[Pioneer1]

4 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

This from a someone who is wallowing in the cesspool of white male derangement syndrome. 

Speaking of wallowing in cesspools......
 

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 -Naw....I better not tell THAT joke.
There are some boundaries I don't cross....lol.

[aka Contrarian]

Right.Go back to envying white men, and bragging about the black men who are happy to wed the picked-over, second-rate white women who marry them.

[Pioneer1]

7 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Right.Go back to envying white men, and bragging about the black men who are happy to  marry the picked-over,  second-rate white women they marry.

Say what???

Oh no, no, nooooo.

According to yall....Black men don't marry  women....LOL

[aka Contrarian]

I never said black men don't marry. You'd be mute if you couldn't tell lies.

[ProfD]

Every group of people on the planet seems to have folks who do whatever it takes to blend into the dominant society here in the US. 

 

European white folks put their ethnicity aside in order to reinforce the white population here in the US.

 

White folks no longer identify themselves as [insert ethnicity here]-Americans. They are just Americans.

 

Black folks from Africa and the Caribbean also lighten themselves with make-up. If they're too dark to hide it...they'll just conform to whiteness.

 

Begs the question is it considered self-hatred when folks deny their ethnicity.

[Pioneer1]

11 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Begs the question is it considered self-hatred when folks deny their ethnicity.

It depends on the reason.

If they deny it in order to fit in TOO get a better job or if they are being harassed in society because of their ethnicity and are hiding it out of fear, that's understandable.
I don't consider that self-hatred.

But if you're doing it SIMPLY because you don't like the group you're in and think they're inferior to other groups.
You think YOUR people are uglier because their noses are bigger.
You think YOUR people's food is worse because they tend to use more garlic.
You think YOUR people are the most nerdy or geeky because they insist on education and study more.

....and you seek to deny or escape your ethnicity simply because of your person dislike of it in comparison to others; THAT is a form of self-hate

[aka Contrarian]

There's a fine line between hating yourself and hating your ethnicty. Your etnicity is external. Your self is internal. You can love yourself so much that you want to escape what you feel is a stigma. 

[Pioneer1]

3 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

There's a fine line between hating yourself and hating your ethnicty. Your etnicity is external. Your self is internal. You can love yourself so much that you want to escape what you feel is a stigma. 

You can't hate your ethnicity without feeling a LEVEL of hatred for yourself as well, because you are a PRODUCT of that group along with your personal choices.

Your parents, your grand parents, the people you love....come OUT of that particular people and culture.
Subconsciously if you hate THEM or see THEM as inferior or worthy of contempt or "cursed"..... and you come out of that group....you can't help BUT to wonder if you (being a member of that group) shouldn't be worthy of the same contempt and inferiority.

Among oppressed people there are various levels of self hate.
Some hate themselves and see themselves below EVERYBODY including members of the oppressed group.
Others see themselves as superior to OTHER members of that oppressed group, but still inferior to the "ideal" groups and hate themselves to a certain extent because they aren't part of the "ideal" groups.

[aka Contrarian]

Stfu. Where did you get your degree in Psychology from? Down the Street Community College? 

 

[Pioneer1]

Cynique
 

17 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Where did you get your degree in Psychology from? Down the Street Community College? 

We were in the same class together, remember?

But YOU dropped out to go work in the Post Office while I continued on and furthered my education.

Now I'm a community leader who helps people with their problems, while YOU...when you're not arguing on the internet....spend much of your time outside in your robe and slippers with a stick in your hand treating hornet's nests like pinatas.

 

 

 

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1smh. You're not even good  at what you have a compulsion to do. Another made-up, far-fetched scenario with no basis in reality from the warehouse janitor and co-worker of African Immigrants who he hides from ICE when not socializing with them in the mens room, comparing dick sizes.

Community leader? Puleeze. The "intelligent" con man and Liar Supreme, looking to line his pockets and make out with any women supplied him by the poor fools he misleads. 

A legend in his own unbalanced mind. Pitiful.

 

[Pioneer1]

50 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

 from the warehouse janitor and co-worker of African Immigrants who he hides from ICE when not socializing with them in the mens room, comparing dick sizes.

Community leader? Puleeze. The "intelligent" con man and Liar Supreme, looking to line his pockets and make out with any women supplied him by the poor fools he misleads. 

 

For a so-called "loser".....you just described a pretty BUSY man with a lot of hats he's wearing....lol.
 

[aka Contrarian]

 

6 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

For a so-called "loser".....you just described a pretty BUSY man with a lot of hats he's wearing....lol.
 

I didn't call you a ,"loser".  You take the cake when it comes to beimg a "scum bag" who makes up  stupid far-fetched stories.

[Pioneer1]

2 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

 

I didn't call you a ,"loser".  You take the cake when it comes to beimg a "scum bag" who makes up  stupid far-fetched stories.

Not only do I "take the cake".....
But if YOU made the  cake, I take it and feed it to my worst enemy....lol.

And make a video of them eating it.

[aka Contrarian]

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Not only do I "take the cake".....
But if YOU made the  cake, I take it and feed it to my worst enemy....lol.

And make a video of them.

   I don't bake cakes  and  I've wasted enough time on somebody who is not a worthy opponent. 

I have better things to do with my Sunday afternoon. Go some where and play with yourself.

 

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

I have better things to do with my Sunday afternoon. 

 

You have better things to do with your Social Security check too!
But that don't stop you from spending it on lottery scratch-offs and Captain Morgan, lol.

 

[aka Contrarian]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

You have better things to do with your Social Security check too!
But that don't stop you from spending it on lottery scratch-offs and Captain Morgan, lol.

 

 

Yep,  that's the way it goes in Pioneerville the place that exists inside your head and turns you into a looney tune.

Why don't you find a hobby to focus on so you can stop falsely characterizing people.  Either that or get in therapy. They got meds for your condition.

[Pioneer1]

1 minute ago, aka Contrarian said:

 

. They got meds for your condition.

They got some for yours too.
It's called Penicillin

 

 

"Ok...next time, don't wait so long before you
seek treatment honey."

 

 

[ProfD]

The hilarity continues between @aka Contrarian and @Pioneer1 going at it.

 

On 10/4/2025 at 5:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

If they deny it in order to fit in TOO get a better job or if they are being harassed in society because of their ethnicity and are hiding it out of fear, that's understandable.
I don't consider that self-hatred.

Right. I believe people trying to fit in one way or another is the main motivation moreso than self-hate.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

The hilarity continues between @aka Contrarian and @Pioneer1 going at it.

 

Picture a cat, playing around and having fun with a little annoying mouse.....

 

 

 

 

 

Right. I believe people trying to fit in one way or another is the main motivation moreso than self-hate.

 

This is natural.
People generally want to blend in and be apart of the community they're in because being seen as "other" or "different" often makes you a target.

However I've learned that "standing out" and being seen as different can also be a benefit and get you POSITIVE attention.
Especially during times of crisis and confusion where people are looking for beacons of light in the darkness.

 

The Nation of Islam under Minister Farrakhan were a little more relaxed when it came to kicking it with the bruthaz in the neighborhood and associating with Hiphop figures.
But the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s were VERY strict and made it a point for it's members to "stand out" from other Black people and be striking examples of cleanliness and morality for our people to look up to.

Actually, one of the things that is so attractive about Black Americans is that unlike nearly all the other ethnic groups (except maybe CERTAIN Latinos born and raised here) we often GO OUT OF OUR WAY to be different than White Americans in our talk, dress, and behavior.
That's where much of our music and style comes from.

[aka Contrarian]

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

 

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 Picture a cat, playing around and having fun with a little annoying mouse.....

 

 

 

@Pioneer1Yep, there you are with your long black tail, and beady eyes trying to get over on the pussy cat with her 9 lives.  Go crawl back in your hole and lick your wounds while I eat your false scenario for lunch.

[ProfD]

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

However I've learned that "standing out" and being seen as different can also be a benefit and get you POSITIVE attention.

This is the reason it's important for parents, family and community to build self-esteem in children very early in life.

 

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Nation of Islam under Minister Farrakhan were a little more relaxed when it came to kicking it with the bruthaz in the neighborhood and associating with Hiphop figures.
But the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s were VERY strict and made it a point for it's members to "stand out" from other Black people and be striking examples of cleanliness and morality for our people to look up to.

The whole uniform and militaristic approach made Black men look civilized and disciplined.

 

White supremacists loved the Nation of Islam because that was fewer black men they had to worry about.

 

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Actually, one of the things that is so attractive about Black Americans is that unlike nearly all the other ethnic groups (except maybe CERTAIN Latinos born and raised here) we often GO OUT OF OUR WAY to be different than White Americans in our talk, dress, and behavior.
That's where much of our music and style comes from.

The curse is that Black folks haven't codified and commodified their natural gifts and talents and greatness. 

 

To this day, Black folks are still selling themselves short when it comes to wealth building.

[aka Contrarian]

There's a large segment of black folks who are  not "going out of their way" to be "different", These wanna-bes make up the community of conservative Republican Negroes who are carbon copies of white folk. All skin folk ain't kin folk.

Then there's the growing population of bi-racials who take from both cultures, forming their own unique vibe. 

And I'd be interested in knowing how you can codify something as fluid as the black mystique. 

  Slaves to their imaginations  need to be constantly reminded to catch up with the real world of 2025.

 

 

[Mel Hopkins]

3 hours ago, ProfD said:

The curse is that Black folks haven't codified and commodified their natural gifts and talents and greatness. 

 

To this day, Black folks are still selling themselves short when it comes to wealth building.

YES!!!  I agree, and understand why, but I've yet to come up with the how?  Most people who are wealthy have borrowed and stolen from the future of others.

[Pioneer1]

Cynique

Yep, there you are with your long black tail,
 

I'm kinda on the light side, so my "tail" is more of a deep brown than black.

But some ladies like the contrast....lol.


Go crawl back in your hole and lick your wounds while I eat your false scenario for lunch.

"long tail"  "hole"  "lick" 

Man.....
You got all types of  Freudian slips slipping out your mouth today....lol.

Did one of your children slip some GINSENG in your tea this morning or something????


"Oh me....Oh my...."




 

ProfD

White supremacists loved the Nation of Islam because that was fewer black men they had to worry about.
 

Some have made that argument.
That the Nation of Islam took many of the most militant "down to ride" Black men and made them less violent and Revolutionary and focused them on religion.

It may be true in a few cases, but in vast majority of cases where violent and angry men entered the Nation of Islam...that violence and anger was aimed at OTHER Black men, not the racists.
 

The curse is that Black folks haven't codified and commodified their natural gifts and talents and greatness. 
 

Is that a "curse" or a character flaw?

To this day, Black folks are still selling themselves short when it comes to wealth building.
 

For the sake of argument.....
Consider the possibility that in the majority of these cases....those who actually CAN....DO.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1Why bother sending messages to Cynique?  Since she only exists your mind, why not just think them?

[ProfD]

19 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

YES!!!  I agree, and understand why, but I've yet to come up with the how?  Most people who are wealthy have borrowed and stolen from the future of others.

True.  Most wealth has been stolen. 

 

However, the Middle Easterners have managed to turn black gold aka oil into a vast amount of wealth.

 

Black folks can start building wealth as a group by:

 

1) owning our talents and abilities, intellectual property

2) using a Black bank

3) supporting Black businesses

4) buying sports franchises

5) investing in land and real estate

6) buying stocks and bonds

 

Putting money to work is the best way to generate wealth in the absence of having natural resources to sell.

 

As @richardmurray has taught, Black folks are many tribes.  The ship of group unity has probably sailed.

[Mel Hopkins]

 

30 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Black folks can start building wealth as a group by:

 

1) owning our talents and abilities, intellectual property

2) using a Black bank

3) supporting Black businesses

4) buying sports franchises

5) investing in land and real estate

6) buying stocks and bonds

 

Putting money to work is the best way to generate wealth in the absence of having natural resources to sell.

 

This is a powerful suggestion!  Especially one that any of us can do and be successful! Thank you!
 

 

That is, instead of, for example, getting off scot-free after your small business steals millions of dollars from Medicaid/Medicare. And then, of course, freeing you up to run for governor and U.S. Senate and winning in the state of Florida. But I digress 

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

True.  Most wealth has been stolen. 

 

However, the Middle Easterners have managed to turn black gold aka oil into a vast amount of wealth.

 

Black folks can start building wealth as a group by:

 

1) owning our talents and abilities, intellectual property

2) using a Black bank

3) supporting Black businesses

4) buying sports franchises

5) investing in land and real estate

6) buying stocks and bonds

 

Putting money to work is the best way to generate wealth in the absence of having natural resources to sell.

 

And all the middle easterners black gold has the blood of middle easterners on it shed by other middle easterners. 

I support all your points to nonviolent financial growth. but I have to say, whites whether they be arab/asian/latino/african/male/female/christian/muslim/ or others have intentionally killed each other for financial gain. The gold rush, the oil rush, the manifest destiny land grabs, prohibition era liquor fortunes, first stock market era,  all had mostly white people killing white people while total complicity by law enforcement, once the first people/native americans were eliminated for the land if needed.  One thing I rarely read or hear black people say, especially in the american continent, is that we in modernity don't have that strong a heritage of murder for financial gain. I argue with no true proof, only personal experience or views that most black on black financial crimes happen today than ever before. Whereas for whites they killed each other in the near past way more than today for fiscal wealth. 

Black people in the usa at the least were enslaved and financially penniless permanently while whites were killing each other for land or oil or gold or liquor. So Black people have started our internal wars over money in the 1900s. Consider madam cj walker was the wealthiest black person in the usa, lived in Urban harlem, think on that. She was blocks from poor black people. She wasn't in a scenario like downtown manhattan's gilded age where rich people had houses lined up next to each other. 

If you consider black people in the usa started to be attested by whites as financially wealthy in the 1900s then based on usa history with the european colonies, the first phase of usa history, starting in the 1500s whites [european/asian/latin/male/female/arab/muslim/christian/ or other] had four hundred years to become financially wealthy by any means necessary while blacks have only been allowed to become financially wealthy within the law from in the 1900s. That is a variance. 

And, to @Pioneer1 initial point, the culture of white latin americans trying to become pure white stems from the simple fact that unlike the english european colonies that brought white women along, the spanish/french/portuguese colonies were overhwhelmingly male, so latin american whiteness is primarily mestizo, the spawn of a white european and an indios female , indios being first people/native american. It is minority mulatto, the spawn of a white european and a black african woman. Mestizo or mulatto children were and are taught in the castas of latin america or its modern derivatives that whiteness could be achieved through a mating structure. Even though genetic lineage doesn't matter how many matings are forced, a human beings lineage is never deleted. so, the mating concept is perpetual because it's goal can never be achieved, but its goal is always emphasized. 

Now that the neutral truth or history is out of the way, 

to the positive

 

I like your nonviolent financial calls. They each have positive value. I will mention warnings alongside the positives.

 

1) owning our talents and abilities, intellectual property

In modernity with the internet, owning your creativity is huge. I don't know the numbers but any artists knows , intellectual property theft in various fashions is rampant today, rampant. So I concur to this as a modern importance. It was important in the past, but with the modern internet, the ability to make profit off of intellectual property theft is much quicker than the past. My warning is, the law around intellectual property is really messy. It isn't an accident that the fiscal wealthiest media firms spend so much money or effort redesigning characters so that they can gain copyright on a newer version. Or that many of said firms don't release media that has public domain characters , cause the ability to legally deny others to profit is... a task, and since most court cases end up settling out of court, well, the expense is to high.

 

2) using a Black bank

I want to be more specific, not a black bank. but a Black Credit Union. I have nothing against Black Banks but credit unions are easier to start and more focused in their design. Credit Unions will allow financially applicable segments of the black community to have a bank for themselves. When I look at the fiscal wealthiest black community in any city in the usa, that being los angeles, they should have a credit union for themselves and to my knowledge they do not. I assume similar for the atlanta black fiscal elite. The black fiscal elite in new york city to be blunt, should have it as well. But, I rather black people of wealth in small regions make credit unions and then new black money can join whenever they can. Financially poor black people can't afford the extra fees or limitations of small banks, especially in context with pensions or similar financial tools. 

 

3) supporting Black businesses

As someone whose household members have always supported black owned businesses, I do support, buying black. But, I do think black people need to imagine how to own their own businesses moreso. From Jacobs to Famous to Lighthouse to Make My Cake to Jumbo to Charlie's to King Barka to various laundromats or hair salons , multiple Black businesses exist in Harlem that have thrived for decades to recently opened.  But New York City proves starting a firm requires more thought. I have witnessed multiple chinese owned restaurants fall in recent years, but I also recognized one chinese restaurant survive and thrive well. why? The one that thrived well is near columbia universty and was getting tons of asian customers even when i was a kid. My point is,the black dance school , liquor gallery, all failed. The black architect seems to be stable. But NYC is hard. Some business will never honestly work in NYC unless the average wealth increases at a rate above the average in the usa or the cost of living decreases at a rate below the average in the usa. 

So support black businesses but I rather hope black businesses focus on being efficient. instead of a dance school maybe you can operate in a school. instead of a gallery maybe you can get a church to be the host of a gallery and your wine, harlem has many black churches that do nothing most of every day, that are locked up or gated.  I know churches members have issues with certain activities but be a business person and make it work. Contracts, figure it out. 

 

Jacobs

https://www.jacobrestaurant.com/jacob-soulfood-restaurant-locations.php

Famous

https://www.famousfishmarketnyc.com/

Lighthouse

https://www.lighthousefishmarket.com/

Makemycake

https://www.makemycake.com/

Jumbo 

https://www.sugarhilljumbos.com/

Charlie's 

https://www.charlespanfriedchicken.com/locations

King Barka - don't hate, websites cost money

https://www.restaurantji.com/ny/new-york/king-barka-/

 

 

4) buying sports franchises

Not for me. In a soccer community elsewhere members were talking about owning a sports team and if I was a multi billionaire (meaning I have three hundred billion dollars in a bank account, not including stock evaluations/bonds/partial investments in firms or dividends from investments or stock)  I wouldn't invest one penny in sports clubs. I have said it in this forum before. I am not sold on sports franchises. 

The business model for sports franchises is simple. You buy a franchise and over time the speculators, the people who see,  continually state the value of the franchise is worth more, based on the increased ad revenue and real estate value of the club. It is the NFL model, which is applied to all sports today. But here is the problem. 

In the EPL, english premier league, the pandemic caused a catastrophic stop of the epl, where franchises had to take out ten million dollars a week or more, let alone the financial money pit of other teams. The problem with sports franchises is any investment in them has to assume, a financially positive environment, where sponsors will be able to pay increasing fees, fans will be able to buy increasingly expensive content, the real estate value with grow. But I can't assume a financially positive environment will exist for any firm all the time, and sports franchises in negative financial environments are some of the worst properties to own. If anything, the best time to buy or start a sports franchise is when the economy is at its lowest, because you are buying or starting on the cheap and you should be able to ride the bad times. The example is the NY Giants, the white family who owns them were bookkeepers, they bought the giants for a hundred dollars or thousand dollars in bad times.  so... buy sports franchise , not for me, not now , maybe if the shutdown continues for three years, all the unpaid rents of federal workers and utility bills and etcetera may shake the market enough to cause problems. Al the most profitable sports teams have situations that matter. The yankees, Real madrid have a legacy that requires time + success. The New York Knicks or rangers have an excellent location far better than most including the yankees. Like every NFL team, MAnchester United and every other epl team have a sponsorship deal that is totally disconnected to athletic merit. But is a closed system to new clubs for the most part.

Yes, the saudis now own newcastle united, the qataris own paris saint germain, the emirates own manchester city and nyfc, redbull own various sporting enterprises. But the oil lords invest because they want to keep their currency low. If the oil lords don't spend they accumulate so much wealth their currency will have to rise in value which will only help the usa as most countries currencies are pegged to the dollar. This is why during the covid 19 they were the only set of countries looking to spend, they had the money to spend and didn't want their currencies to skyrocket as other economies were falling during the covid 19. As for redbull, well, they have basically found a way to use the NFL model in all sports. They use specualtion and marketing to get an advertising industry to finance their ventures which allows them to skim off the top and market manipulate. 

 

5) investing in land and real estate

rough, as someone who was born and raised in NEw York City, land and real estate seem very wise long term BUT during the covid 19, many small business failed which meant many offices struggled. It is only because the city/state/federal government provided a bunch of financial crutches that the real estate industry didn't implode. But, again, that is bad fiscal capitalism. Based on revenue in my lifetime, all the banks in the usa should had closed permanently, all the investment houses in the usa should had closed permanently, all but the ford motor company should be around as car manufacturers (I will never forget how ford wanted to not get the government aid but the government demanded they get aid, ), all the airlines in the usa should had closed permanently,most food production firms should had closed permanently,  most real estate properties in nyc should had been bought by the city government way under market value for inability to pay debts.

Too often in the usa, the federal/state/city governments  provide welfare to failing businesses, which is dysfunctional. People complain about unemployed people getting welfare but welfare to the unemployed serves the function of maintaining a certain quality of life for the unemployed, which helps peace amongst the masses. But welfare to firms spits at the important function of being able to fail in free market capitalism. When a firm fails that means it was mismanaged. Every firm in the usa in my lifetime who was given welfare to survive did it to itself. 

AT&T sold Warner bros under market value to the discovery channel because it was unprofitable. It was a failure. AT&T demanded discovery channel accept all the warner bros debt, so AT&T had clean books with all of its profitable branches. 

The mergers of firms isn't because firms are making money, they merge because they are failing. 

The banks who take all races of peoples homes every day or treat Blacks or First peoples/native americans negatively compared to white customers crawled and begged in washington d.c. in their tailored suits far more sinfully in my mind than any "shaniqua" in an urban black neighborhood to the welfare office. 

So not for me. If you want to invest in land or real estate go ahead, but if you don't have a wise way to turn that land or real estate into revenue then your playing the common game today in the usa of tax breaks and tax liens and false speculations and overall market  gambles that... not for me. 

 

6) buying stocks and bonds

I always think of that white man standing with the car. 

The stock market craches don't include the bitcoin crashes, which they should cause it is the same situation. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash

When anyone invest in a trading environment the key isn't their investment, the key is when they pull out. I recall in New York city, many bitcoin billionaires who professed in local media, NY Times and Wall Street Journal, how they don't need money, they have bits, they are living it up... and then some time later, they looked like a modern variant of the man above or below:) in their case, holding a mop or holding a sign by themselves. 

Black people invested in the freedman's bank, that frederick douglass spoke for... black people of the late 1800s in the usa , most of DOSers who had any money lost all their money in the implosion of the freedman bank. So invest? yeah ok. But.. people look at some pension funds and say you see, invest. but many and i argue most pension funds in the usa went belly up. If you are so inclined only invest in stocks or bonds, perishable revenue or income. 

 

bitcoin crashes

https://www.webopedia.com/crypto/learn/biggest-bitcoin-crashes/

 

someone assessed the grey scale and made a color version. ahh chrysler, internals are worthless, but the cabin, nice:) 

 

 

IN CONCLUSION

 

Of the six, I think 2 with adjustment +3 with focus  have the best value overall. 1 has legal issues which are mighty. 4+5+6 are all true gambles. They each require a situation or environment which is not certain. 

 

Black Credit Union, yeah, I like that idea. focused, small, relies on true financial quality. gives great leeway once you pay the legal fees, protects from operations of other or larger banks. 

 

More black people own business in the usa today than ever before , holistically. But, too many black businesses fail in the usa as well, you have to think more on the financial reality of the industry you are in. It can't be village save me. 

[Pioneer1]

Cynique

 

Why bother sending messages to Cynique?
 

Because aka Contrarian...her alter ego....responds to them.

richardmurray

 

More black people own business in the usa today than ever before , holistically. But, too many black businesses fail in the usa as well, you have to think more on the financial reality of the industry you are in. It can't be village save me. 
 

But what are the NATURE of these so-called "Black businesses" that exist today?
 

100 years ago a Black business usually consisted of a 4 walled shop where an actual product or service was offered.
Like a grocery store, barber shop, sign making company, tailor shop, etc....
 

A lot of the so-called businesses today are online and rarely involve manufacturing physical products.
Basically shuffling money around and participating in financial and credit based schemes like bitcoin and the like.
 

No actual "civilization building" skills like carpentry, engineering, agriculture, and the like are being passed along from one generation to the next like they were during Reconstruction.

   

 

 

When I look at some of these old pictures I remember that old Pete Rock & CL Smooth line:

"I stive to be live cuz I got no choice
And run my own business like my Aunt Joyce"
 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I support all your points to nonviolent financial growth. but I have to say, whites whether they be arab/asian/latino/african/male/female/christian/muslim/ or others have intentionally killed each other for financial gain.

As we've covered in past threads, I totally understand your point in this regard. 

 

The reality is that Black folks are not in a position to take wealth by force.

 

Although Black folks do kill others, it's not with the same mentality that white folks are willing to kill anything and everything in their path.

 

I don't believe Black people have the same willingness to go to war and kill others for their freedom or power and wealth.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

 

The reality is that Black folks are not in a position to take wealth by force.

 

We don't need to take it by force, all we need to do is use the resources already at our disposal to GENERATE all of the wealth that we need.

Who's stopping us from establishing more restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations, factory plants, and even engaging in major civil engineering projects?

 

This is our country.
Whether we believe it or "act" like it or not, it is ours.

Who is literally "stopping" us, besides....us?

 

 

Although Black folks do kill others, it's not with the same mentality that white folks are willing to kill anything and everything in their path.

 

I think it's more on a petty and smaller scale and less skillful.
Take drugs, alcohol, and robbery out of the equation.....lol....which is 75% of the reason Black folks kill....Black folks often kill out of emotional rage or some sort of personal insult.

 

White folks CALCULATE their murders and many even use drugs, poisons, and other long term methods that are more effective and concealed.

They often kill for money, wealth, status, racial hatred, or some strange psychological issue driving them.
 

 

 

I don't believe Black people have the same willingness to go to war and kill others for their freedom or power and wealth.

 

They would to get freedom from another Black person...lol.

 

As far as killing and going to war for more power and wealth......
Many of our people are happy and content as long as White folks are "providing" a sustenance for them.
Many can't don't desire more power and really don't desire more wealth than they can have fun with and many can't even CONCEIVE of having more power and wealth than White folks.

 

[richardmurray]

@Pioneer1

 

I stated in the post you replied to 

On 10/7/2025 at 5:32 PM, richardmurray said:

From Jacobs to Famous to Lighthouse to Make My Cake to Jumbo to Charlie's to King Barka to various laundromats or hair salons , multiple Black businesses exist in Harlem that have thrived for decades to recently opened.

and i listed businesses, some decades old that have been passed on...

 

On 10/7/2025 at 5:32 PM, richardmurray said:

Jacobs

https://www.jacobrestaurant.com/jacob-soulfood-restaurant-locations.php

Famous

https://www.famousfishmarketnyc.com/

Lighthouse

https://www.lighthousefishmarket.com/

Makemycake

https://www.makemycake.com/

Jumbo 

https://www.sugarhilljumbos.com/

Charlie's 

https://www.charlespanfriedchicken.com/locations

King Barka - don't hate, websites cost money

https://www.restaurantji.com/ny/new-york/king-barka-/

 

these are all in Harlem TODAY. So I don't know what you are asking as their nature. I know all of said businesses had to fight hard to survive/thrive/live because, Black DOSers don't have a foreign money supply like everyone else in NYC, nor do we control the government as our former enslavers the white europeans . 

 

and I quote you

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is our country.
Whether we believe it or "act" like it or not, it is ours.

 

Let me ask again, cause I probably asked before, but when did the USA become Black DOSers, because, you  know were enslaved during the european colonial period and had no change with the coming of the constitution. So, what date did the USA become Black DOSers  ? Don't tell me, 1776 ? Most free blacks fought against the creation of the usa in 1776. Most free blacks fought against the USA in the war of 1812. When did the USA become a possession of the Black DOSers, for the historical record?

I don't mind anyone black claiming the USA is a possession of Black DOSers but give me a date? it can't 1492 , it can't be 1776. But a date has to exist , so when? If you can't name when then that explains why the argument you and other black people similar minded to you, have never reached anywhere with that argument. Give a date.

Douglass was booed by blacks for the following speech , which by your words, you would had been the lone black cheering that day. 

https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/357-frederick-douglass-our-composite-nation/

 

@ProfD 

I concur black people don't have the willingness to achieve the levels of violence non blacks have and do. Anybody tell you Black people don't want to be free or more free , have power or more power, are lying to you and themselves. Yes, Black people, whose heritage in the USA is surviving enslavement from whites, not killing native american children or enslaving other human beings, don't have the killer bug. But for a people who also praise nonviolence, as black people do often, lets embrace where we have reached without killing whole tribes of native americans by gun or by germ warfare, making whole countries in asia addicted to heroin, stealing other humans from their home to be the cheapest possible labor. What I find interesting is how often Black people who will criminalize another black person for stealing an apple, are unwilling to ever mention where white wealth comes from, and where black wealth today comes from. Black wealth today, 99% of it, only comes from hard,legal, work. So...when various black people offline or online say black people don't want to be free or financially wealthy, that is easy to disprove by the fact that black wealth and freedom even absent the use of violence has grown to where it is today under a government, by its own admission, is completely anti black. 

I will never comprehend how the Kerner Commission , literally done by the federal government of the usa, with all but one person white, flat out said the usa top down, in every single corner is anti black to the core and yet, black people are suggesting, ownership and lack of ambition. 

The KErner commissions final report is that the entire society in the USA, every state in it, is anti black. 

My only question can be, especially as some black people speak so highly of white thoughtfulness, not you profd... is why are black people refutting the kerner commission?  

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2685&type=status

 

 

[umbrarchist]

On 10/4/2025 at 4:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

It depends on the reason.

If they deny it in order to fit in TOO get a better job or if they are being harassed in society because of their ethnicity and are hiding it out of fear, that's understandable.
I don't consider that self-hatred.

But if you're doing it SIMPLY because you don't like the group you're in and think they're inferior to other groups.
You think YOUR people are uglier because their noses are bigger.
You think YOUR people's food is worse because they tend to use more garlic.
You think YOUR people are the most nerdy or geeky because they insist on education and study more.

....and you seek to deny or escape your ethnicity simply because of your person dislike of it in comparison to others; THAT is a form of self-hate

 

I don't know what all is going on in the personal conflicts here. I tend to not find that stuff interesting.

 

This "inferiority" issue is deeply psychological.

 

When I was 5 yrs old I was sitting at the kitchen table while my mother was doing my sister's hair with an ironing comb. I was staring at the comb on the stove thinking,
"Damn that thing must be HOT!"
My mother picked it up with a pot holder to use on her hair.

Zzoooooom...!

I was gone! Out of the kitchen.

That shit is CraZy!

 

I had two older sisters, 4 and 5 years older than me. With different complexions. I began thinking that Black females had an inferiority complex about beauty before I graduated from grammar school.

 

But we are born into this White dominant culture. The Paleface talk about this Stockholm Syndrome. That was because of some hostage incident in Sweden.

 

How much of a Stockholm Syndrome do Black Americans have resulting from centuries of failing to cope with this bullshit.

 

I started reading science fiction at 9. Of course almost all of it written by White men. So any female characters were disproportionately blonde haired and blue eyed. But I ended up learning quite a bit of science because of those books and began to notice most White people in the Real World are not to smart.

 

Then there is the "Acting White" syndrome.

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[richardmurray]

@umbrarchist

I recall seeing a few years ago in a black hair salon a little black girl crying, surrounded by a bunch of black women with straight hair, i think she was being initialized. 

 

ah stockholm , should be called, slave quarter syndrome. The funny thing is white science doesn't deem stockholm a proven condition, which makes sense considering how many non white europeans want to be white europeans today. Admitting it would demand embracing the large context. hell, one can argue the zionist are slave quartering. the jews of israel are treating the palestineans as they were treated by christian germans. 

 

I have a discord where i share literature I write, before public viewing, would you like to join up?