Black. Church. People. On. Sunday.

[harry brown]

Black. Church.   Christians.   Ask. Your.   Money. Worshipping. Preacher. To. Preach. About. The.  Bible. God. Supporting. Slavery. ..,Your. Bible. Says.  Owning. Slaves. Is. A. Sign. Of. Your. Bible. God ,Blessing. You. .  Our. Ancestors.  Kidnapped.  Put. In. Chains.  And. Shackles.   Being. Whipped.  On   Slave. Ships.  Sold.  To.   Racist. ,Evil.  Demonic.  White. People. ,This. Is.  Your. God. Blessing  The. ,White. Man..  Girls. Can. Be. Sold. As. Sex. Slaves.  .Girls.  Raped. ,Should. Be. Sold. To   The. Rapist.  Or. Stoned. To. Dead. ....Black. Christian.  Tell. Your. Preacher. To. Preach.  This. Sermon.  Tell. Your.   Gospel. Singers.   To. Sing. Gospel. Songs. About. Your. God. Supporting. Slavery. ....The. Bible. God. And. Jesus. Is.  More. Evil ,,Than. The. Devil. Satan. And. Lucifer.  .....Preachers.  And. Gospel. Singers. Worship. Money. ..Black. People.  Have. Every. White. People. Religion.  Except. The. Amish.   And. The. Snake.   ,Handlers. ...Religion. Is. A.  Slave.  Chain. In   Black. Communities. .....

[ProfD]

Even if the preachers touch the text, they will find a way to turn it into a message of hope, redemption and obedience.

 

Same thing goes for gospel music. The songs will start out with how bad they were and their struggles but through the love of sky fairy amd his Son there is still hope for joy, happiness and everlasting life.

 

It is probably best to leave people to their religious beliefs. Especially those who have been heavily indoctrinated.

 

Religion and drugs are very similar to the extent that many people use them to cope with their existence.

 

A person addicted to drugs has to want to stop uisng before intervention is effective.

 

Same goes for people who have been brainwashed in one way or another. They have to want their 3rd eye to be opened.

[Pioneer1]

Well.....

That Bible condones and even promotes slavery as a curse.
The question is...WHO should be enslaved?

The Bible doesn't necessarily say that Black people or any specific race be the slaves, so Black folks could just as easily use the Bible to justify White Slavery.

[ProfD]

11 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That Bible condones and even promotes slavery as a curse.
The question is...WHO should be enslaved?

The Bible doesn't necessarily say that Black people or any specific race be the slaves, so Black folks could just as easily use the Bible to justify White Slavery.

The question is why should any human be enslaved to another. 

 

Enslaving folks has absolutely nothing to do with basic human needs and/or survival.

 

I understand how and why slavery happened but it's wrong in the grand scheme of things.

 

No other creature on the planet enslaves another. Not even their enemies.

[Pioneer1]

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

The question is why should any human be enslaved to another. 

 

Enslaving folks has absolutely nothing to do with basic human needs and/or survival.

 

My understanding of it is that it was and still is a TACTIC of warfare.

Slavery practiced in the United States was the worse form in history.
However the "typical" slavery as practiced around the globe through out history involved capturing enemy combatants that you haven't killed....along with their families, and putting them to work for you or your tribe/nation for the rest of their lives.

Their children...if they had any....were usually born free and even allowed to join the dominant community in some cases.

Some argue that enslaving your enemy was better than killing them.
Others say it was worse because it humiliated them.
Not sure one way or the other.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

My understanding of it is that it was and still is a TACTIC of warfare.

 

Slavery practiced in the United States was the worse form in history.

Right. The institution od slavery as practiced in America wasn't warfare...that was straight bizness.

 

Otherwise, enslaving prisoners and victims of war was a part of it.

 

However, nothing makes it right to enslave anorher person.

[Pioneer1]

On 10/12/2025 at 8:59 PM, ProfD said:

 

However, nothing makes it right to enslave anorher person.

I'm not sure if I'd agree with that one.

If a person truly IS a violent criminal who can't be reformed and is a guaranteed danger to the public, the only intelligent solution is imprisonment or death.
Imprisonment...in my opinion...is a form of slavery.


 

[Troy]

On 10/12/2025 at 11:30 AM, ProfD said:

Religion and drugs are very similar to the extent that many people use them to cope with their existence.

 

Absolutely -- especially since I can't offer them anything to replace that need.

 

On 10/12/2025 at 4:48 PM, ProfD said:

I understand how and why slavery happened but it's wrong in the grand scheme of things.

 

Who says?  

 

On 10/12/2025 at 6:53 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Some argue that enslaving your enemy was better than killing them.

 

Sure, one could make that argument.

 

On 10/12/2025 at 4:48 PM, ProfD said:

No other creature on the planet enslaves another. Not even their enemies.

 

No, but they chase them down and devour them alive eat them alive. 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Imprisonment...in my opinion...is a form of slavery.

 

In this country it is actual slavery.  I drove pass a prison here on the Florida panhandle where there were fields inmates worked. 

 

[Pioneer1]

On 10/14/2025 at 8:22 PM, Troy said:

 

In this country it is actual slavery.  I drove pass a prison here on the Florida panhandle where there were fields inmates worked. 

 

That was the entire purpose of the 13th Amendment.
You can't be forced to work EXCEPT by conviction of a crime.

Slavery wasn't outlawed in the United States; it was just REFORMED under new conditions.
 

[ProfD]

On 10/14/2025 at 8:22 PM, Troy said:

No, but they chase them down and devour them alive eat them alive. 

That is how nature designed the program among animals...predators and prey.

 

Humans kill their food too but they aren't supposed to prey on and hunt other humans.

 

Still, no other creature on the planet enslaves another.

 

On 10/14/2025 at 8:22 PM, Troy said:

In this country it is actual slavery.  I drove pass a prison here on the Florida panhandle where there were fields inmates worked. 

There are prison work camps but they do make pittance wages which keeps it from being considered slavery.

[umbrarchist]

Spent 13 years in Catholic schools.

Decided that I was an agnostic in 7th grade. Reading LOTS of science fiction since 4th grade probably influenced that.

Stopped going to church before high school.

 

Black Americans being Christians makes no sense to me but a lot of Black women are into it. One Black woman told me that God was a Black Woman.

 

I didn't argue. I just wondered if she had told the White people. Boy are they in for a surprise!

 

Ever wonder if Enoch and Melchizedek are the same guy and God "translated" Enoch via Einsteinian Physics?  God had to know that shit millennia before Einstein figured it out.

.

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Spent 13 years in Catholic schools.

Decided that I was an agnostic in 7th grade.

Do you STILL consider yourself agnostic?

[umbrarchist]

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do you STILL consider yourself agnostic?

 

The Tyranny of Words (1938) by Stuart Chase 

 

I could have read that in high school if I had known about it.

 

Reality is more complicated than words. I started reading about the occult in the late 80s.

 

I still call myself that meaning "I do not know". I am not any kind of believer. I mostly avoid discussing religion with people.

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[Pioneer1]

Yes
I know the difference between an agnostic and an atheist.

Just curious as to where you stood right now.

[umbrarchist]

Like I said, I started reading about the occult in the late 80s.

 

 

I have regarded the Heaven/Hell paradigm with the Terrorist God as rather dumb for decades.

 

But it is like Donald Rumsfeld said, "The unknown unknown is a motherfucker!"

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[ProfD]

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

I have regarded the Heaven/Hell paradigm with the Terrorist God as rather dumb for decades.

IMO, those beliefs are right up there with Santa Claus.