Sport Betting Problems in the USA

[richardmurray]

Sport Betting Problems in the USA
Another superbowl, another day of big sports betting.  Where is the snake man in the public service announcement for legal gambling + drinking alcohol +  smoking cigarettes? I never seen him, why?

 

[ProfD]

Sports betting pours a windfall of money back into the economy.

 

In 1931, Las Vegas opened the 1st casino. A decade later the Strip started popping.

 

Gambling has been huge for almost 100 years now.

[Pioneer1]

The only "problem" in sports betting is that there aren't enough AfroAmericans in office to regulate and legalize it and especially in  the law enforcement sector that handle such issue to prevent unfair "selective enforcement" of the law.

This is supposedly a "free" country so if people want to waste their money away gambling or MAKE a fortune gambling...it should be their decision.

It's really a "problem" only because so much money is being circulated around without taxes being taken out.

The numbers game was a "problem" too....until the states started running and regulating it and get THEIR cut of the money.....now it's promoted.

[ProfD]

So far, about $1.7 billion dollars has been bet on Super Bowl LX.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

Gambling has been huge for almost 100 years now.

Gambling has been huge since humanity existed. Gambling was huge at the time of the pharoahs. But gambling, like all potentially addictive actions [cocaine/chocolate/fornication] can become a self induced crime. But during the time of the pharoahs no potentially addictive actions, that can lead to self induced crime,  were illegalized.

So to get to modernity, where are the black elected officials legislations to legalize addictive actions that will aid black profiteering? I can't find any bills even put to the legislatures? why? 

35 minutes ago, ProfD said:

So far, about $1.7 billion dollars has been bet on Super Bowl LX.

 

and how much of that is through gambling addiction? 

Comprehend I am not knocking profiteering, but in my eyes, gambling addiction is being deemed an acceptable, not merely legal, but acceptable, why can't the others be acceptable? no one can give any valid reason. 

 

@Pioneer1 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is supposedly a "free" country so if people want to waste their money away gambling or MAKE a fortune gambling...it should be their decision.

Are you in support of legalizing all drugs/prostitution/ and other illegal acts, since you share this libertarian position?

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's really a "problem" only because so much money is being circulated around without taxes being taken out.

Really? gambling is global, taxing across borders is a complex mess. Can you provide a source to your assertion?

I argue gambling addiction has a greater financial negative but because it is dominated by whites, who have the money to gamble, it isn't criminalized in media or the legal system, what say you?

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The numbers game was a "problem" too....until the states started running and regulating it and get THEIR cut of the money.....now it's promoted.

Wait a minute the first lotto was in NYC and to be even , white owned nyc media never said the numbers game in harlem was a problem. You know who actually said the numbers was a problem, black media, the black church. The NYPD and the mob, which at that time in nyc was very powerful,  made good money off of the numbers. White media never called the numbers a problem, it was black people, specifically the black churches and its self righteous acolytes  and black individuals who... I will rest my thoughts. 

One thing, the lotto is not a continuation of the numbers, from a statistical perspective, the numbers have better odds than the lotto. The lotto did supplant the numbers in the black populace, and again, led by black churches and their members who.. anyway, the lotto did supplant but it is a lie to say it is a continuation of the numbers. Like legal sports gambling, if you look at the statistical details, it is far worse odds than illegal gambling, whether the numbers or other. 

[Pioneer1]

richardmurray

 

Are you in support of legalizing all drugs/prostitution/ and other illegal acts, since you share this libertarian position?

 

Absolutely.
Legalized and regulated.

 

 

Really? gambling is global, taxing across borders is a complex mess. Can you provide a source to your assertion?

 

You want a source?
Go to any bar, factory, and many street corners and you'll find people gambling freely and not paying taxes on their winnings.

 

 

I argue gambling addiction has a greater financial negative but because it is dominated by whites, who have the money to gamble, it isn't criminalized in media or the legal system, what say you?

 

Gambling has financial AND psychological negatives.
For some people, the positives seem to outweigh the negatives.

Unregulated gambling IS criminalized.

 

As far as the racial component.....people of all races tend to gamble so I'm not sure what to say about that.

 

 

 

 

Wait a minute the first lotto was in NYC and to be even , white owned nyc media never said the numbers game in harlem was a problem. You know who actually said the numbers was a problem, black media, the black church. 

 

The same Black church who was GIVING OUT numbers for people to play?

 

 

 

 

Or the Black church who passed out and sold "dream books" with numbers for people to play?

 

 

 

 

 Like legal sports gambling, if you look at the statistical details, it is far worse odds than illegal gambling, whether the numbers or other. 

 

How do you know this?

Never heard of the state breaking anybody's leg or arm for a gambling debt.
Never heard of the state shooting and killing anybody for trying to pass off a phony winning ticket.


How do you know so much about illegal gambling vs legal gambling?

Lol....is THAT what you do for a living Mr. Murray?

Gamble?

I KNEW  I'd figure your angle out one of these days....lol.

What's your game............  
Horses?
Dice?
Or cards?

[ProfD]

13 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD 

Gambling has been huge since humanity existed.

I was referring to legalized gambling here in the USA.

 

13 hours ago, richardmurray said:

So to get to modernity, where are the black elected officials legislations to legalize addictive actions that will aid black profiteering? I can't find any bills even put to the legislatures? why? 

Black folks do not have that much power here in the USA.

13 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Comprehend I am not knocking profiteering, but in my eyes, gambling addiction is being deemed an acceptable, not merely legal, but acceptable, why can't the others be acceptable? no one can give any valid reason. 

The white folks in power decide what is and is not legal &/or acceptable. 

 

Those powerful enough to create the game & rules of it also determine how it's to be played.

 

[richardmurray]

 

@Pioneer1

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Absolutely.
Legalized and regulated.

I didn't comprehend how much a supporter you are of regulation till the following

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Go to any bar, factory, and many street corners and you'll find people gambling freely and not paying taxes on their winnings.

 

i see so a private card game has to be taxed, not easy to implement that, unless invasion of privacy becomes legally acceptable. The federal government has tools to do it, but those tools don't allow the kind of flagrant use needed to tax card games and craps. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As far as the racial component.....people of all races tend to gamble so I'm not sure what to say about that.

 

you miss the financial reality of scale. Black people have always gambled as whites but the scales are far different and that matters, numerically, financially, it is not the same scale and thus can't have the same penalty of scale if numerically proportional. Cause if not, then support every single business being to big to fail. the rational behind too big too fail is that the major banks in the banking industry can't fail because of their scale, so scale is accepted by whites in the usa, so blacks, even statian blacks like yourself, should be able to comprehend scale in penalization.and thus white gambling is a higher scale than black gambling in the usa. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The same Black church who was GIVING OUT numbers for people to play?

 

the black church was not the main numbers agents ever in nyc, maybe outside nyc, even enough, but in nyc the black churches/black church was never the main agent. Many black people who went to church played numbers cause many black people did, it was a chance to make a dollar. But black churches were not the main agents in nyc. 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How do you know this?

In nyc you can see the odds for each game on a lotto ticket. They are worse odds than the numbers. A little arithmetic three digits each have ten possibilities, zero to nine three times,  so the odds is ten to the third power, ten times ten time ten,  that is one out of a thousand, that is far better than any legal lotto system. Come on.. if you want to hate the village just say so. But here, don't take my word for it. 

https://www.lotteryusa.com/news/history-of-new-york-illegal-lottery

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Never heard of the state breaking anybody's leg or arm for a gambling debt.
Never heard of the state shooting and killing anybody for trying to pass off a phony winning ticket.


How do you know so much about illegal gambling vs legal gambling?

awwwww

The numbers are different... you just love knocking the village, or maybe you love upsetting me. 

The gambling debt your talking about isn't numbers, or playing cards or dice because you can't play any of them without money upfront. you can't have a gambling debt with cards/dice/numbers... the slot machine, playing the horses, cause you need money to play upfront. 

The only way you can have a gambling debt playing numbers is if you went to a loan shark to get money to play numbers, but you talk about libertarianism, who told you to go to a loan shark? You just championed libertarianism but then when it extends to actions you don't think people should be free to do , you cite crime ahhhh

 

Know so much? In my own mind I don't know anything. But field hand, you haven't figured out anything.  Pioneer porgy,  how was church this morning field hand?

 

 

@ProfD

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Black folks do not how that much power here in the USA.

6 hours ago, richardmurray said:

yes, but I amended my point by saying the following 

6 hours ago, richardmurray said:

So to get to modernity, where are the black elected officials legislations to legalize addictive actions that will aid black profiteering? I can't find any bills even put to the legislatures? why? 

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

I don't mind bills not getting passed, but bills aren't even sent to the floor? why? why not? black elected officials are not busy. They do not work for a living based on the legislature they get passed or put forward so... regardless of not having enough black elected representatives to be a voting black in legislatures, in modernity, each can propose laws. By law, of the country you hold so dear, every single elected officials can put bills to the floor. The reparations bill has not been passed, or turned into a law. but a black elected official, a black woman, [pardon me for forgetting her name] person put it forward. No excuse existed in the past. I didn't suggest laws had to be made. And each black member of congress... any member of congress has the power to put a bill to the floor. No one is stopping any of them. From women members of congress putting equal pay bills to the floor. from paraplegic members of congress putting equal worker protections bills to the floor. 

If they don't want to work, ok, but power has nothing to do with it. Many bills die on the floor. why not more? 

 

[Pioneer1]

 

richardmurray

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

how was church this morning field hand?

Wonderful!
The preacher reminded me a lot of YOU...lol.

For 4 or 5 hours he demanded everybody remain silent while he read the WHOLE Bible.
He then asked the people did they have any questions.
When a few dared to raise their hands....he SCOLDED them for not paying attention...lol.

[ProfD]

https://www.americangaming.org/

 

As with everything else in the USA, there is an organization, American Gaming Association (AGA), that advocates for gambling.

 

The AGA even addresses the smart way to gamble.

 

Just as the National Rifle Association (NRA) advocates upholding the 2nd amendment, these organizations exist to protect American freedoms and interests.

 

Even if Black elected leaders or any other race/nationality introduces bills to Congress against gambling or whatever white folks hold dear...they will have an uphill battle. 

 

The main thing for most politicians is that is impossible to introduce legislation against the lobbyists who are lining their pockets. 

 

Politicians dare not bite the hands that are feeding them.

[richardmurray]

@Pioneer1 

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Wonderful!
The preacher reminded me a lot of YOU...lol.

hahaha:) i am laughing while insulted:) 

please dont tell me his hair was soul glo-ed?

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

For 4 or 5 hours he demanded everybody remain silent while he read the WHOLE Bible.
He then asked the people did they have any questions.
When a few dared to raise their hands....he SCOLDED them for not paying attention...lol.

you made this up:) no way this is true

 

@ProfD

3 hours ago, ProfD said:

these organizations exist to protect American freedoms and interests.

is that snide?

3 hours ago, ProfD said:

As with everything else in the USA, there is an organization, American Gaming Association (AGA), that advocates for gambling.

yes, lobbying is legal in the usa and all monied parties in or out of the usa have lobbies in the usa. But, the presence of lobbies is open, anti gambling and anti guns have lobbies too. Why is it many can talk about the power of lobbies for anti abortion/pro guns/pro gambling but then act like lobbies don't exist for pro abortion/anti gambling/anti guns . Everyside on any issue has a lobby today. So, lobbies aren't an excuse for anything. Elected officials choose the lobbies whose financial support they accept. But again, it is a choice. In terms of black affairs the tobacco lobbies would support a law that will lower their taxation or industrial limits while doing things for black smoking industries like marijuana. Lobbies for womens rights will support laws to legalize prostitution, if said laws offer more impowerment to women 

No profd, every side on all positions has lobbies today. 

Now, if black elected officials have secrets or can be extorted/twisted by lobbies for things they have done or people they have associations with , well that isn't the power of lobbies that is the weakness of elected officials. 

I will never forget when a black elected official was taking money in the new york state assembly and he had his pay money in tupperware. I wasn't angry he got caught, the price of illegal behavior is always the threat of being caught. But, he had dirty money in tupperware in his fridgerator? what kind of "american gangster" put your money behind a bunch of dogs, feces is this. And he has no excuse historically , black people have made accounts in swiss banks. Black people have taken dirty money and not been caught. So if elected officials are fools well ok, but that isn't about the lobbies. 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Politicians dare not bite the hands that are feeding them.

Modern District of Columbia is full of titties from all over the world and in all industries and sectors, full of titties. Change the titty you suckling from. Whatever you want to do, if you have imagination, if you have will, the titty is out there, waiting for your mouth. If you don't want to change the titty you suckling from, your free cause other money is out there, shame on you. If the titty you suckling from has some shackle on you, shame on you. 

[ProfD]

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD

is that snide?

Of course not. Just pointing out why these organizations exist supposedly. 

 

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Everyside on any issue has a lobby today. So, lobbies aren't an excuse for anything. Elected officials choose the lobbies whose financial support they accept.

 

No profd, every side on all positions has lobbies today. 

Right. Lobbyists on both sides of an issue influence politicians with money. 

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I will never forget when a black elected official was taking money in the new york state assembly and he had his pay money in tupperware.

Years ago, we had a politician who told his wife to stuff money in her underwear when federal agents raided their home.

 

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Modern District of Columbia is full of titties from all over the world and in all industries and sectors, full of titties. Change the titty you suckling from. 

Therein lies the problem. Too many politicians are sucking on one titty or several.