Immigration laws of the future

[richardmurray]

Let's imagine you are the president of the USA in the future and the congress has made a law concerning immigration, that you want to sign immediately after you see it. 

What will that law be? 

[ProfD]

The law I sign would allow anyone to immigrate into the country providing they can produce (work) &/or contribute (money) to it.

 

No welfare or charity immigrants. They can stay in their *home* countries & run that program.

 

In fact, I might even propose that for every 1 immigrant allowed into this country, I'd like to send 10 dead-weight citizens to any country that will take them.

 

[Pioneer1]

That Ideal law?

1. Except for very special cases (limiting the number to under 1000 per year) ALL immigration would stop for 10 years, giving the immigrants currently in America a chance to properly assimilate

2. The 14th Amendment is modified to NOT include the children of people in the nation illegally.

3. Most immigrants who are in the country illegally as well as their progeny will have their status reviewed case by case and there will be a decision as to whether or not they will be allowed to stay or sent back to either THEIR home countries or the countries their parents were born in.

4. As an immigrant, all of the money you make IN America STAYS in America.  No more wiring money you made in America all over the world to bolster the economy of nations.

5. 10 years later when we start letting more immigrants back in the nation in mass numbers, there will be a  more RACIALLY BALANCED policy that allows a proper and fair balance of Black immigrants compared to White, Asian, and Central American immigrants.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

thank you 

 

@Pioneer1

thank you

any potential laws @frankster @aka Contrarian @admin?

[Pioneer1]

richardmurray

Well......
That was an uncharacteristically short response...lol.

 

[frankster]

Abolish the need for Visas to cross International Borders.....Advocate for the Right To freely Travel the Globe as a Basic and Foundamental Human Right.

 

Travel is Education

[Pioneer1]

18 hours ago, frankster said:

Abolish the need for Visas to cross International Borders.....Advocate for the Right To freely Travel the Globe as a Basic and Foundamental Human Right.

 

What?????

See, that's why YOU don't have your own country...lol.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

What?????

See, that's why YOU don't have your own country...lol.

No visa freedom of travel means you would not have to fill out a bunch of paperwork to kick it with beautiful Black women in other places.

[Pioneer1]

45 minutes ago, ProfD said:

No visa freedom of travel means you would not have to fill out a bunch of paperwork to kick it with beautiful Black women in other places.

 

Neither would the White and Arab men who seek them for human trafficking.

[aka Contrarian]

I've never given the immigration issue a whole lot of thought probably because it has never directly impacted on my life.

But I do agree that criminal illegal  immigrants should be deported back to where they came from. And - that anyone born in this country is automatically an American citizen.

 

I'm not a particularly patriotic person, and I'm always amused at how black people can chronically complain about racism, and express so little regard for their white countrymen yet so resolutely declare their love for this country.

 

As somebody famous, Winston Churchill(?), once said: "America is the worst, most flawed country in the world... except for all the others."

 That sentiment kinda resonated with me.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

But I do agree that criminal illegal  immigrants should be deported back to where they came from. And - that anyone born in this country is automatically an American citizen.

Same here.

 

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

I'm not a particularly patriotic person, and I'm always amused at how black people can chronically complain about racism, and express so little regard for their white countrymen yet so resolutely declare their love for this country.

I'm not patriotic in the sense of wearing flags &/or putting them on my property.

 

However, in the same way that I didn't get to choose my parents, I didn't have a choice of where I was born. 

 

The USA with all of its warts is my birthplace.  It is my *home* country.

 

I do not believe there is another country on this planet that is as diverse & with more opportunities than the USA.

 

For that reason, I feel that gives me even more *right* to call out racism white supremacy & every other form of BS from the USA & its citizens. 

 

Reaching that stage in life of being able to call balls & strikes without giving a d8mn is a perk too. 

 

[Pioneer1]

I believe millions of immigrants BOTH legal and illegal should be deported AND there should be an immediate HOLD on all immigration for a period of time until the millions of immigrants already in the nation are properly assimilated and to be sure we have ENOUGH RESOURCES to bring more in without being a burden on the system.
 

How are you going to adopt MORE children when you aren't even taking care of your own little rug-rats who are running around the neighborhood eating out of garbage cans???

 

 

 

Cynique

 

I'm not a particularly patriotic person, and I'm always amused at how black people can chronically complain about racism, and express so little regard for their white countrymen yet so resolutely declare their love for this country.

 

Because it's OUR country.
Just because you have racists and no good people IN the country, doesn't mean the country itself is terrible.

If you have roaches or termites in your house, do you condemn the house and leave it and let the roaches and termites take over?
Or do you treat the problem as best you can and continue to dwell in the house you built or paid for?

 

 

 

 

ProfD
 

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

The USA with all of its warts is my birthplace.  It is my *home* country.

I do not believe there is another country on this planet that is as diverse & with more opportunities than the USA.

That's RIGHT.
You tell her!

 

[ProfD]

8 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD
 

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

The USA with all of its warts is my birthplace.  It is my *home* country.

I do not believe there is another country on this planet that is as diverse & with more opportunities than the USA.

That's RIGHT.
You tell her!

Nah bro...my post was not directed at our beloved @aka Contrarian. 

 

Actually, her post provided a jump-off to address the type of sentiment brotha  @richardmurray might express in one of his corners about martians, er, statians.

 

[Pioneer1]

25 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Nah bro...my post was not directed at our beloved @aka Contrarian. 

 

Actually, her post provided a jump-off to address the type of sentiment brotha  @richardmurray might express in one of his corners about martians, er, statians.

 

Well the TRUTH is the TRUTH, regardless as to who it is directed towards.
Unless it's ABOUT them personally, the truth itself doesn't cease to be or change depending on who is being told it....lol.
 

 

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1stfu. You're the one, blubbering about acquiring your own private island off the coast of Africa. You'd be right at home there in your natural habitat, a jungle full of snakes and hyenas and insects. 

America would never miss you.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Somebody needs to tell YOUR beloved Cynique....that if she doesn't like America....nobody is making her stay here.

Somebody needs to tell her that if this nation is so terrible, she can sign her social security checks over to AALBC Inc., pack her bags, and search for the promise land....lol.
 

 

[aka Contrarian]

A lot of BS coming from Pioneer who, I repeat, recently expressed a desire to go settle in a promised land on his own private Island off the coast of Africa, (where he would undoubtedly be in his natural element among the snakes and hyenas and pesky insects.)

And, of course, in full blown strawman mode, he presents an inaccurate  impression of my sentiments since I, myself, never said I thought America was"so terrible".

When it comes to America, I am actually indifferent, preferring to take its imperfections in my stride, unlike him who would be mute if he didnt have this country to constantly criticize, while yearning to replace white supremacy with his tiresome claims of black supremacy. 

I don't know why any intelligent person would take a phony windbag like him seriously.

Somebody needs to tell him to stfu.

[Pioneer1]

12 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

 Pioneer who, I repeat, recently expressed a desire to go settle in a promised land on his own private Island off the coast of Africa, (where he would undoubtedly be in his natural element among the snakes and hyenas and pesky insects.)

 

What an ignorant and racist opinion and depiction of Africa.

You've probably never set food on the continent, but want to call it a land of snakes and insects.
An image you've undoubtedly gotten from your slave masters...lol.

[aka Contrarian]

No telling what's on a deserted island off the coast of Africa. 

"Ignorant" and "racist" are actually terms more befitting someone like you who constantly disparages anyone who's not in his tribe.

Just for good measure I'll add the word "obnoxious" to characterize you.

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

No telling what's on a deserted island off the coast of Africa. 

 

If there's no telling....then why are YOU telling it?

Leave the guess work and speculation alone.
You should focus only on what you actually KNOW.

But then again....lol...we'd probably only hear from you once a week.
 

[aka Contrarian]

3 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

If there's no telling....then why are YOU telling it?

Leave the guess work and speculation alone.
You should focus only on what you actually KNOW.

But then again....lol...we'd probably only hear from you once a week.
 

Take your advice and shove it. If I ever followed anything you suggested. I'd be as deluded and irrelevant as you are. 

 

[Pioneer1]

7 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Take your advice and shove it. 

 

......if I did, would you like to know exactly WHERE I'd shove it?

[aka Contrarian]

I'm not interested in hearing what a great contortionist you are when it comes to being full of yourself.

[richardmurray]

@frankster

 

On 3/30/2026 at 10:17 PM, frankster said:

Abolish the need for Visas to cross International Borders.....Advocate for the Right To freely Travel the Globe as a Basic and Foundamental Human Right.

 

Travel is Education

thank you... That is very radical for modernity. I admit I wasn't expecting a reply like this... The kind of travel you refer to was how it was in ancient times. In ancient times, only fortified places had walls, people could travel right outside walled areas and towns without walls would exist aside of major roads. Bandits and raiders existed but the level of traffic, fiscal traffic in the past, shows most people traveled wise enough to not be bothered by bandits or raiders. Now some people travel riskily and well...  The fear of the stranger, the other, is high in humanity , and not for nothing, for an honest reason. White europeans in their global conquests taught most of humanity to fear the stranger , fear the other, fear variances because if you don't fear and you trust, you end up like the rest of humanity not white european that at one time not to  long ago was completely enslaved to white europeans in some form or fashion.  So, the question is, how do you get a majority in humanity to trust in strange humans or have faith in a general goodness in humanity? 

 

 

@aka Contrarian

On 4/3/2026 at 10:45 AM, aka Contrarian said:

I've never given the immigration issue a whole lot of thought probably because it has never directly impacted on my life.

But I do agree that criminal illegal  immigrants should be deported back to where they came from. And - that anyone born in this country is automatically an American citizen.

 

I'm not a particularly patriotic person, and I'm always amused at how black people can chronically complain about racism, and express so little regard for their white countrymen yet so resolutely declare their love for this country.

 

As somebody famous, Winston Churchill(?), once said: "America is the worst, most flawed country in the world... except for all the others."

 That sentiment kinda resonated with me.

thank you. The usa is the only government in humanity that allows citizenship just because you are born in it. May I ask what is your reasoning for that immigration legal position? does it have legal precedent or is it a heritage aspect, or a culture you feel warranted? 

 

Your second point is arguably the great challenge of Black Descended of Enslaved people in any country in the american continent, barring haiti. You know like me , and anybody else commenting in this post that our forebears were enslaved in every country in the american continent, and forms of enslavement existed like jim crow in each country in the american continent, and msot of our forebears had a well earned dislike... hatred or whites or these lands for the misery of the black collective in any of them...but, as humans are human, over time black DOSers in the american continent want like all humans a home. Most had no money or resources to leave wherever they were in the american continent, so that grew the uncommon but honest, hateful citizenship you mention. 

Black DOSers will never be able to honestly say as a group , barring haiti, any country in the american continent has  ever been a place where most black people in it were happy. To reword for Black DOSers unhappiness side citizenship are hand in hand in most governments in the usa, a warranted reality. 

I get your amusement, how can a person say they love a place that they clearly don't love, but fate has put Black DOSers in that position to be able to say that.

 

 

 

 

[frankster]

11 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

@frankster

 

thank you... That is very radical for modernity. I admit I wasn't expecting a reply like this... The kind of travel you refer to was how it was in ancient times. In ancient times, only fortified places had walls, people could travel right outside walled areas and towns without walls would exist aside of major roads. Bandits and raiders existed but the level of traffic, fiscal traffic in the past, shows most people traveled wise enough to not be bothered by bandits or raiders. Now some people travel riskily and well...

There is nothing more educational than travel....You see the commonalities and ordinariness of Human Beings as they secure a living from their environment.

We all are seeking basically the same thing.....how we achieve that thing is often where our differences show - from those differences we can learn and grow.

 

11 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

The fear of the stranger, the other, is high in humanity , and not for nothing, for an honest reason. White europeans in their global conquests taught most of humanity to fear the stranger , fear the other, fear variances because if you don't fear and you trust, you end up like the rest of humanity not white european that at one time not to  long ago was completely enslaved to white europeans in some form or fashion.

A socalled Civilization based on War Culture - is not a civilization but a Barbarization...in which all manner of Plunder Cruelty Pain and Suffering is seen as normal.

The European has used and taught that War is Civilization...

In a War Culture .....The better you are at War is the more intelligent and civilize you are - as you are able to take the best from all and claim it as your own.

War is like fast food it is quick looks smell and taste good....but it also makes your life one of  sickness pain bloated discomfort and you die younger.

 

11 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

So, the question is, how do you get a majority in humanity to trust in strange humans or have faith in a general goodness in humanity? 

To do so One will have to become Vulnerable....

Trust is based on Mutual Respect Honest Open Communication and most of all Integrity.

This Trust was almost Universal among Humans....and to some extent still is - it is the basis of nearly all Spirituality.

Remove Politics from religion...whats left is Spirituality and Science.

Spirituality and Science are very Uniting Natural Force Within every Human Being

 

Those in Control of European Global Hegemony use and have used these qualities to usurp and undermine the sovereignty of many peoples over themself and their property.

[aka Contrarian]

@richardmurrayin answer to your question asking  why I think anyone born in America is automatically a citizen, I tend to think in the abstract when it comes to land ownership, maps, boundaries,territories,etc.

The Earth is ground under our feet and doesn't belong to anybody!  All claims to it, like treaties and deeds are man made agreements; just pieces of paper.

So, technically, wherever you were born, is your birthplace and that qualifies you to claim citizenship in the place where you came to life. It's that simple to me. All the rest is superficial. 

I neither love nor hate my birthplace. It is what it is. and I take that in my stride.

[richardmurray]

@frankster thank you

@aka Contrarian thank you

[richardmurray]