Alright brutha @frankster front and center.....lol.

You dared me to make a thread for you to discuss your being possessed by Entities.

In the words of that Puerto Rican dude who challenged Radio Raheem in Do The Right Thing, and lost.....YOU GOT IT BRO.

Now gimme the REALS.
Don't disappoint me like you did in that Alien Hybrid thread I made, lol.

Pose your Questions and I give you what I Know Believe and Think....

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Alright brutha @frankster front and center.....lol.

Present....

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You dared me to make a thread for you to discuss your being possessed by Entities.

If I led you to believe I was being possessed by Entities.....That is not what i intented or meant.

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

In the words of that Puerto Rican dude who challenged Radio Raheem in Do The Right Thing, and lost.....YOU GOT IT BRO.

I thought that was what the Doctor said to the dude with an STD.....

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Now gimme the REALS.

First you must tell me what type of and what does Possessions means to you?

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Don't disappoint me like you did in that Alien Hybrid thread I made, lol.

Sorry that I did that....never meant to - you know how I love me some alien talk or postings

frankster

If I led you to believe I was being possessed by Entities.....That is not what i intented or meant.

Ahhh boy, here we go again.........lol.

If you need it, allow me to refresh your memory.

I said:

I'm not sure about the mind, the physical body IS a possession....usually by one's Soul.

However the body can be possessed by more than one's own Soul....OTHER Entities can possess it too.

You said in response:

If you wish to continue this line of reasoning open a new thread.....and lets share

I said:

Share what?

Do you have stories of being possessed by other Entities?

Then YOU led me on, by saying:

Start a thread.....see you there

You asking me to start a thread on the subject after asking you do you have stories about possession led me to believe that you HAD stories and were willing to SHARE them in this thread!

If you didn't have any stories to tell, what was the purpose of even starting the thread???

Man, I haven't been led on like that since I was 27!

Woman at work who flirted with me all the time told me she loved Chinese food and asked me to buy her some and come over to her house and help her eat it.

I bought all that food, pulled up, rung her doorbell....and heard a voice with HEAVY BASS in it in the side the house!

She opens the door grinning and pulling me in and there's a WHOLE DUDE with a nappy beard standing behind her grinning at me and the food!

"Heeeyyyyyyy,
Glad you could make it!
We so HOWNgry"

Go stand up there grinning at me and introduce me to her husband! And 3 kids!

We all sat around that table eating Chinese food and I was SO quiet that evening....lol.

I left...quietly....lol.

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

If I led you to believe I was being possessed by Entities.....That is not what i intented or meant.

Ahhh boy, here we go again.........lol.

If you need it, allow me to refresh your memory.

Yes....Thank you

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I said:

I'm not sure about the mind, the physical body IS a possession....usually by one's Soul.

However the body can be possessed by more than one's own Soul....OTHER Entities can possess it too.

You said in response:

If you wish to continue this line of reasoning open a new thread.....and lets share

I said:

Share what?

Do you have stories of being possessed by other Entities?

Then YOU led me on, by saying:

Start a thread.....see you there

You asking me to start a thread on the subject after asking you do you have stories about possession led me to believe that you HAD stories and were willing to SHARE them in this thread!

If you didn't have any stories to tell, what was the purpose of even starting the thread???

Cool I never said....what you were expecting....

Your expectation was of your own creation...

Ok....The purpose was to talk about possession.

Not that I was possess

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Man, I haven't been led on like that since I was 27!

I think I also ask you to say/state what does possession means to you?

You have not said...

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Woman at work who flirted with me all the time told me she loved Chinese food and asked me to buy her some and come over to her house and help her eat it.

I bought all that food, pulled up, rung her doorbell....and heard a voice with HEAVY BASS in it in the side the house!

She opens the door grinning and pulling me in and there's a WHOLE DUDE with a nappy beard standing behind her grinning at me and the food!

"Heeeyyyyyyy,
Glad you could make it!
We so HOWNgry"

Go stand up there grinning at me and introduce me to her husband! And 3 kids!

We all sat around that table eating Chinese food and I was SO quiet that evening....lol.

I left...quietly....lol.

Thats your own fault....what you where thinking obviously was not what she was thinking.

Had you cleared that up before you embarked....thinks might have been different

Maybe she was into menage a trois and considered you a candidate.....your own little freak off- lol

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Man, I haven't been led on like that since I was 27!

Woman at work who flirted with me all the time told me she loved Chinese food and asked me to buy her some and come over to her house and help her eat it.

Go stand up there grinning at me and introduce me to her husband! And 3 kids!

We all sat around that table eating Chinese food and I was SO quiet that evening....lol.

I left...quietly....lol.

Well, it does not read like that woman lied about anything.😁

Resourcefully, she found a way to feed her family that evening without putting in any work whatsoever.

Told her her hubby & kids a nice guy from work offered to buy Chinese food for dinner.

That is an great example of why it is important for a man to be straight up & clear with his intentions & expectations with a woman before he drops any coins.

That way there is no confusion or misunderstanding. The man does not walk away stiff or deflated involuntarily.🤣😎

frankster


Cool I never said....what you were expecting....
Your expectation was of your own creation...

You HELPED with it....lol.

Ok....The purpose was to talk about possession.
Not that I was possess

Ok, well do you have STORIES about possession that you've personally witnessed?

I didn't start this thread to swap fairytales and 14th hand information snatched off of some reddit discussion.
I was hoping to hear (read) some real 1st hand accounts of people's encounters with the Spirit world.



I think I also ask you to say/state what does possession means to you?
You have not said...

My apologies.

To me, Spiritual Possession is when an Entity takes nearly total control over a physical body.
It could be theirs, or it could belong to somebody or someone else.





Thats your own fault....what you where thinking obviously was not what she was thinking.

But she KNEW what I was thinking, though.



Had you cleared that up before you embarked....thinks might have been different

Some things are...or atleast should be....automatically "understood".

When you ask a man you've been flirting with for weeks to buy you some food and come over to your home, you should KNOW what he's expecting....lol.



Maybe she was into menage a trois and considered you a candidate.....your own little freak off- lol

I think so.
I've heard stories about her from others.
But I wasn't ready for that.

ProfD


Well, it does not read like that woman lied about anything.😁

That's what master deceivers do.
They don't have to tell outright lies...they just present the truth in a misleading way and let you draw your own conclusion.




Resourcefully, she found a way to feed her family that evening without putting in any work whatsoever.

Their house looked nice.
I don't think they were hurting.
I think they had other things in mind.




That is an great example of why it is important for a man to be straight up & clear with his intentions & expectations with a woman before he drops any coins.
That way there is no confusion or misunderstanding. The man does not walk away stiff or deflated involuntarily.🤣😎

If a woman has been flirting with you, sitting on your lap, and grinding her butt into you for WEEKS before....there is no misunderstanding of what she wants when she invites you over to her home, lol.

She KNEW what she was doing and what I was thinking.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some things are...or atleast should be....automatically "understood".

When you ask a man you've been flirting with for weeks to buy you some food and come over to your home, you should KNOW what he's expecting....lol.

Never assume anything when it comes to women.

Some women can be masters of deception & manipulation especially if/when they see a vulnerable man.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If a woman has been flirting with you, sitting on your lap, and grinding her butt into you for WEEKS before....there is no misunderstanding of what she wants when she invites you over to her home, lol.

She KNEW what she was doing and what I was thinking.

Right. She knew how to get a free dinner out of her coworker.

Her man may have been on Puffy & Cassie sh8t.😁

Good thing you didn't stick around & wait for them to put those kids to bed. No baby oil.🤣😎

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster


Cool I never said....what you were expecting....
Your expectation was of your own creation...

You HELPED with it....lol.

I am looking forward to sharing on this topic

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ok....The purpose was to talk about possession.
Not that I was possess

Ok, well do you have STORIES about possession that you've personally witnessed?

If you are talking about hollywood style possession....cant say i personally witnessed any.

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I didn't start this thread to swap fairytales and 14th hand information snatched off of some reddit discussion.

Me neither

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I was hoping to hear (read) some real 1st hand accounts of people's encounters with the Spirit world.

Sorry...i do not have any of those

I thought we were going to just discuss it in general.

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I think I also ask you to say/state what does possession means to you?
You have not said...

My apologies.

To me, Spiritual Possession is when an Entity takes nearly total control over a physical body.
It could be theirs, or it could belong to somebody or someone else.

What form do you suppose these entities take?

Size?

Consistency?

Why would they want to posses anyone

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Thats your own fault....what you where thinking obviously was not what she was thinking.

But she KNEW what I was thinking, though.

Yeah and maybe she knew....you did not know what she was thinking

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Had you cleared that up before you embarked....thinks might have been different

Some things are...or atleast should be....automatically "understood".

Maybe she thought you understood and use down with whatever

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

When you ask a man you've been flirting with for weeks to buy you some food and come over to your home, you should KNOW what he's expecting....lol.

She does....

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Maybe she was into menage a trois and considered you a candidate.....your own little freak off- lol

I think so.
I've heard stories about her from others.
But I wasn't ready for that.

Ahhh...com on bro

They talking bout her like dat....

and you trying to hit dat

they be talking bout you next...

you dodge a bullet bro

ProfD

Never assume anything when it comes to women.
Some women can be masters of deception & manipulation especially if/when they see a vulnerable man.

While that's good advice, it's not always realistic.
It often kills the vibe to be so blunt and straight up with a woman regarding sexual attraction and encounters.

Imagine the average woman's reaction if yall are sitting on the couch together and start looking into eachothers eyes and move closer, and you STOP and say,
"Is it alright if I feel on your coochie and then can we have sexual intercourse? I have your permission, right?"

Some human interactions shouldn't be verbalized.





Her man may have been on Puffy & Cassie sh8t.
Good thing you didn't stick around & wait for them to put those kids to bed. No baby oil

It wouldn't be the first time I was invited to a 3-some....by a DUDE, lol.
I was getting those vibes, which is why I ate dinner with them and left....quietly....directly after, lol.

She had the nerve to keep asking me what was wrong and why I was so quiet through out dinner, lol.






frankster


I am looking forward to sharing on this topic

Lol, sharing WHAT bro????

If YOU haven't been possessed from the outside or seen it first hand, and I haven't seen a first hand outside possession (that I know of for sure)....what are we going to talk about besides stories we've read in books or heard about online?

Just like the UFO discussion.........
No first hand direct accounts.
Just swapping old wive's tales and or bogus misleading information put out by the government to keep you running down dark alleys and peaking under garbage cans LOOKING for something tangible.

The only thing we'd be doing is entertaining ProfD and confirming what he already suspects when it comes to subjects like this anyway.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Never assume anything when it comes to women.
Some women can be masters of deception & manipulation especially if/when they see a vulnerable man.

While that's good advice, it's not always realistic.
It often kills the vibe to be so blunt and straight up with a woman regarding sexual attraction and encounters.

It all depends on how it's delivered. A man can't be meek & mild about it.😁

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Imagine the average woman's reaction if yall are sitting on the couch together and start looking into eachothers eyes and move closer, and you STOP and say,
"Is it alright if I feel on your coochie and then can we have sexual intercourse? I have your permission, right?"

That would definitely be a cornball way to approach a woman.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some human interactions shouldn't be verbalized.

Mutual attraction eliminates the need for words &/or verbalizing.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The only thing we'd be doing is entertaining ProfD and confirming what he already suspects when it comes to subjects like this anyway.

Bro, I'll sit back & enjoy watching the tennis match between you & brotha frankster. 😁😎

ProfD

It all depends on how it's delivered. A man can't be meek & mild about it.

True.

As the old saying goes, it's not what you say but how you say it.

Mutual attraction eliminates the need for words &/or verbalizing.

As I said before, if a woman is smiling at you, flirting with you, and grinding on you on a consistent basis...that's usually a sign of attraction, lol.

What else do you need? A written and notarized contract?

Bro, I'll sit back & enjoy watching the tennis match between you & brotha frankster.

Sorry to disappoint, but there won't be a bunch of back-n-forth yin-n-yang.....lol.

Either he has been possessed or he's got first hand accounts of possession he's actually witnessed.

Other than that.....I can surf the internet and find my own stories.

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I am looking forward to sharing on this topic

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Lol, sharing WHAT bro????

Our Knowledge on the subject

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If YOU haven't been possessed from the outside or seen it first hand, and I haven't seen a first hand outside possession (that I know of for sure)....what are we going to talk about besides stories we've read in books or heard about online?

So thats all you want stories?

Maybe we can find away to experience Spirit....And understand these things in a way that gives us some amount of control

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just like the UFO discussion.........
No first hand direct accounts.

The most direct account is to Experience it.....for yourself

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just swapping old wive's tales and or bogus misleading information put out by the government to keep you running down dark alleys and peaking under garbage cans LOOKING for something tangible.

Thats all part of it.....

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The only thing we'd be doing is entertaining ProfD and confirming what he already suspects when it comes to subjects like this anyway.

The entertainment business ain't that bad.....it tends to pay well

Who knows maybe we learn something from each other

S

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Mutual attraction eliminates the need for words &/or verbalizing.

As I said before, if a woman is smiling at you, flirting with you, and grinding on you on a consistent basis...that's usually a sign of attraction, lol.

What else do you need? A written and notarized contract?

All of those are definitely choosing signals unless she's a teaser.😁

The next step would be putting in that zipper work & taking matters into her own hands.

No confusion. No need for a written & notarized contract.🤣😎

frankster

Our Knowledge on the subject

Something tells me that can be summed up in 2 paragraphs....lol.

So thats all you want stories?

I want FACTS directly from those who either experienced them or observed them personally.

The most direct account is to Experience it.....for yourself

True.

But I'm not sure if that would be the WISEST thing to do before consulting with those who HAVE, first.

Who knows maybe we learn something from each other

I'm already learning a thing or two from you....ABOUT you, lol.

ProfD

The next step would be putting in that zipper work & taking matters into her own hands.

The next step would have been to keep our relationship strictly at work.

I should have tried to get all of the goodies I could WHILE we were working and the opportunity was at it's clearest.

Then again, I didn't know she was married...........
Even when I was younger, I didn't have actual sex with married women.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Our Knowledge on the subject

Something tells me that can be summed up in 2 paragraphs....lol.

That is true

Then lets put those two paragraph in text....

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

So thats all you want stories?

I want FACTS directly from those who either experienced them or observed them personally.

Sounds good....but all that will provide is whats already written of in books.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The most direct account is to Experience it.....for yourself

True.

But I'm not sure if that would be the WISEST thing to do before consulting with those who HAVE, first.

True....

There are safe ways....not that i know - but i have read of

What do you know or read of about these things?

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Who knows maybe we learn something from each other

I'm already learning a thing or two from you....ABOUT you, lol.

And I from you

This movie is an interesting take on possession:

Possession is another phenomena that will continue to fascinate humans & generate money in the form of books, TV & film.😎

13 hours ago, ProfD said:

This movie is an interesting take on possession:

Possession is another phenomena that will continue to fascinate humans & generate money in the form of books, TV & film.😎

Do you think it is Real?

How or What do you understand it to be?

22 minutes ago, frankster said:

Do you think it is Real?

How or What do you understand it to be?

Of course, I do not think it is real.

I understand it to be another spin on one of the recurring themes in Hollywood movies.😎

So who in this conversation actually believes in possession, like in the film the exorcist?

16 minutes ago, admin said:

So who in this conversation actually believes in possession, like in the film the exorcist?

Of course I don't believe in possession. Same goes for people "speaking in tongues". It's all foolishness.🤣

Surely, no one is surprised that I'm a non-believer in such things. Especially not brotha @frankster.😁😎

@ProfD yeah we’re on the same page there.

Open your Minds....

On 8/10/2026 at 1:09 PM, ProfD said:

Of course, I do not think it is real.

The movie is fiction

But it maybe based on facts that have been fictionalized

On 8/10/2026 at 1:09 PM, ProfD said:

I understand it to be another spin on one of the recurring themes in Hollywood movies.😎

The Theme did not begin in Hollywood....

These ideas go way back to the dawn of civilization

15 hours ago, admin said:

So who in this conversation actually believes in possession, like in the film the exorcist?

Yes....I do - with reservations

Yes....I believe they are factual events

Now did all the Events portrayed in the film actually happened as portrayed.....no

Somethings portrayed in the film was for entertainment.

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

Of course I don't believe in possession. Same goes for people "speaking in tongues". It's all foolishness.🤣

Surely, no one is surprised that I'm a non-believer in such things. Especially not brotha @frankster.😁😎

No surprise

14 hours ago, admin said:

@ProfD yeah we’re on the same page there.

No surprise

frankster

Sounds good....but all that will provide is whats already written of in books.

Not really.

Every case of possession is different.

This is one of the reasons experience and direct observation is so valuable.

It provides knowledge and insight that you often can't find in a text book.

True....

There are safe ways....not that i know - but i have read of

What do you know or read of about these things?

I've READ a lot about possession.

Much more than I actually know.

Again, that's why I like to hear direct accounts from the experiencer.

Do you think it is Real?

How or What do you understand it to be?

If it's produced in and/or put out by Hollywood, you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The West has a way of taking reality and historical truths and DISTORTING them to the point you no longer recognize fact from fiction.

Take Voodoo for example.

The Vodou practiced in Haiti is much different than what is and has been typically portrayed in the Western media.

Troy

So who in this conversation actually believes in possession, like in the film the exorcist?

I believe it's possible and actual and quite frequent.

Is it as dramatic as in the film The Exorcist?

In some cases yes, but in most cases no.

But in some cases it's even MORE dramatic and frightening because that was a MOVIE that was designed by mere human beings.
Spirits are FAR more intelligent and sophisticated than humans and can come up with things unimaginably more frightening.

Think of a nightmare you had.
Did anything you ever watched in a movie make you as afraid as a nightmare?

But something you can probably relate to........

How many times have you heard stories of people who get drunk and "black out" and end up hurting someone or killing someone or doing other acts of evil?

They don't call alcohol "spirits" for nothing.

Too much alcohol is known to open people up TO being spiritually possessed.

8 hours ago, frankster said:

Open your Minds....

To let folks pour a bunch of foolishness into it....no thanks.🤣

I'm perfectly fine not believing in spirits & Santa Claus & Big Foot & UFOs, etc.😁

Still, there's no shortage of entertainment around.😎

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

that's why I like to hear direct accounts from the experiencer.

Do they still have insane asylums? Perhaps you can visit one and get a firsthand account.

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Think of a nightmare you had.
Did anything you ever watched in a movie make you as afraid as a nightmare?

I don’t think I’ve had a nightmare since I was a little kid and even then it was only once or twice. The nightmare gave me this feeling that I was gonna die, and it stuck with me for quite a while.

I saw the movie the exorcist in the theater when it first came out. I was nine years old and I remember it scaring me. I watched it again for the first time in maybe 50 years and I have no idea why any adult thought this film was scary…

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How many times have you heard stories of people who get drunk and "black out" and end up hurting someone or killing someone or doing other acts of evil?

I don’t equate being drunk with being possessed by some demon. Dude goes to the bar drinks too much gets behind the wheel of a car causes an accident in which someone is killed and not remembering any of it; that’s just being drunk.

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They don't call alcohol "spirits" for nothing.

Oh brother, OK no they don’t call alcohol spirits for nothing, but it has nothing to do with possession.

5 minutes ago, admin said:

Oh brother, OK no they don’t call alcohol spirits for nothing, but it has nothing to do with possession.

Imagine it being someone's job to catch spirits & stuff them in bottles for people to drink.🤣😎

15 minutes ago, ProfD said:

I'm perfectly not believing in spirits & Santa Claus & Big Foot & UFOs, etc.

Well, I believe in UFOs—we’ve actually seen those.

Belief in Santa Claus by a child is understandable, especially when parents tell the kids to believe in him. Now, after a certain point children figure out the truth. I figured it out through reason as a little kid. My apartment in the projects didn’t have a chimney.

Possession is just another one of those things. There are more reasonable, explanations like schizophrenia or epilepsy. The law of parsimony applies.

3 minutes ago, admin said:

Well, I believe in UFOs—we’ve actually seen those.

There's a US military explanation for every UFO/UAP people have ever seen. Top Secret military programs.

The US military has to test the latest technology at some point. Late at night up in the sky &/or in the middle of nowhere makes sense. 😎

26 minutes ago, ProfD said:

There's a US military explanation for every UFO/UAP people have ever seen

Considering it is the military sharing the most compelling UFO videos, that blanket explanation seems unlikely.

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Sounds good....but all that will provide is whats already written of in books.

Not really.

Every case of possession is different.

This is one of the reasons experience and direct observation is so valuable.

It provides knowledge and insight that you often can't find in a text book.

True

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

True....

There are safe ways....not that i know - but i have read of

What do you know or read of about these things?

I've READ a lot about possession.

Much more than I actually know.

Again, that's why I like to hear direct accounts from the experiencer.

Cool...

I have never experienced it first hand like in the movies

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do you think it is Real?

How or What do you understand it to be?

If it's produced in and/or put out by Hollywood, you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The West has a way of taking reality and historical truths and DISTORTING them to the point you no longer recognize fact from fiction.

Take Voodoo for example.

The Vodou practiced in Haiti is much different than what is and has been typically portrayed in the Western media.

True

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Troy

So who in this conversation actually believes in possession, like in the film the exorcist?

I believe it's possible and actual and quite frequent.

Is it as dramatic as in the film The Exorcist?

In some cases yes, but in most cases no.

But in some cases it's even MORE dramatic and frightening because that was a MOVIE that was designed by mere human beings.
Spirits are FAR more intelligent and sophisticated than humans and can come up with things unimaginably more frightening.

Think of a nightmare you had.
Did anything you ever watched in a movie make you as afraid as a nightmare?

But something you can probably relate to........

How many times have you heard stories of people who get drunk and "black out" and end up hurting someone or killing someone or doing other acts of evil?

They don't call alcohol "spirits" for nothing.

Too much alcohol is known to open people up TO being spiritually possessed.

true

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

To let folks pour a bunch of foolishness into it....no thanks.🤣

It is your prerogative to keep your mind closed

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

I'm perfectly not believing in spirits & Santa Claus & Big Foot & UFOs, etc.😁

Hope we are still alive when officialdom admits and provides evidence and proof to Bigfoot and UFO

Santa Claus is based on a real person who was mythologized and Fictionalized......Saint Nicholas.

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

Still, there's no shortage of entertainment around.😎

Great for making and confusing the gullible

14 hours ago, admin said:

Do they still have insane asylums? Perhaps you can visit one and get a firsthand account.

New Nomenclature for the same thing.....Insane or Possession

14 hours ago, admin said:

I don’t think I’ve had a nightmare since I was a little kid and even then it was only once or twice. The nightmare gave me this feeling that I was gonna die, and it stuck with me for quite a while.

Most nightmare are caused by some form of upset discomfort or illness.....

14 hours ago, admin said:

I saw the movie the exorcist in the theater when it first came out. I was nine years old and I remember it scaring me. I watched it again for the first time in maybe 50 years and I have no idea why any adult thought this film was scary…

It still scary to kids and some adults....

14 hours ago, admin said:

I don’t equate being drunk with being possessed by some demon. Dude goes to the bar drinks too much gets behind the wheel of a car causes an accident in which someone is killed and not remembering any of it; that’s just being drunk.

Modern Name for Possession.

14 hours ago, admin said:

Oh brother, OK no they don’t call alcohol spirits for nothing, but it has nothing to do with possession.

Why not?

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

Imagine it being someone's job to catch spirits & stuff them in bottles for people to drink.🤣😎

Why not?

Describe your concept of a Spirit?

Many people believe we are a Spirit having a human experience....so in a sense we possess this body

14 hours ago, admin said:

Well, I believe in UFOs—we’ve actually seen those.

True.

Tell us about this?

14 hours ago, admin said:

Belief in Santa Claus by a child is understandable, especially when parents tell the kids to believe in him. Now, after a certain point children figure out the truth. I figured it out through reason as a little kid. My apartment in the projects didn’t have a chimney.

Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicholas....a real factual person

14 hours ago, admin said:

Possession is just another one of those things. There are more reasonable, explanations like schizophrenia or epilepsy. The law of parsimony applies.

Exactly

We have renamed it.....to suit our modern minds and understanding.

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

There's a US military explanation for every UFO/UAP people have ever seen. Top Secret military programs.

The US military has to test the latest technology at some point. Late at night up in the sky &/or in the middle of nowhere makes sense. 😎

They have none for people who testify to NHI....

They even shot hellfire missile at some in an attempt to bring it down...

14 hours ago, admin said:

Considering it is the military sharing the most compelling UFO videos, that blanket explanation seems unlikely.

True

1 hour ago, frankster said:

They have none for people who testify to NHI....

They even shot hellfire missile at some in an attempt to bring it down...

That hellfire missile missed on purpose too. The military inspires & learns a lot from Hollywood movies.😎

33 minutes ago, ProfD said:

That hellfire missile missed on purpose too.

It did not miss....

33 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The military inspires & learns a lot from Hollywood movies.😎

In this case....the military is learning

6 hours ago, frankster said:

It did not miss....

The hellfire missile did not explode or damage the object either. Just bounced off. That's a miss.😁😎

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

The hellfire missile did not explode or damage the object either. Just bounced off. That's a miss.😁😎

We do not know the extent of the damage ….

We do know it broke in three as a result..contact was made damage of some sort was sustained….thats a hit

The ordinance did not detonate …a dampening field perhaps or a dud..

On 8/12/2026 at 2:54 PM, frankster said:

Tell us about this?

The military videos have already been shared here...

On 8/12/2026 at 2:54 PM, frankster said:

We have renamed it.....to suit our modern minds and understanding.

Calling everything from schizophrenia to drunkenness is just a renaming of possession makes no sense -- where is your scientific objectivity?

On 8/11/2026 at 11:47 PM, ProfD said:

To let folks pour a bunch of foolishness into it....no thanks.🤣

Perhaps the term "open mind" should have had a NEGATIVE connotation to it......lol.

Just like the term "brain washing" probably should have had a POSITIVE instead of negative connotation to it.
It should be another term for "debriefing"; a description of the process by which a lot of filth, ignorance, and propaganda is removed from someone's mind.

Troy

Do they still have insane asylums?

They still have 'em....they're called PRISONS.

After the government shut down most of the mental hospitals people could go to to get some sort of treatment, now the most common institutions the mentally ill are kept in are penal institutions.

....that and homeless shelters.

Perhaps you can visit one and get a firsthand account.

No thank you.
I can see enough crazy people on the street.

I don’t think I’ve had a nightmare since I was a little kid and even then it was only once or twice. The nightmare gave me this feeling that I was gonna die, and it stuck with me for quite a while.

Exactly.

I'm not guessing any MOVIE could have brought that emotion out of you.

I saw the movie the exorcist in the theater when it first came out. I was nine years old and I remember it scaring me. I watched it again for the first time in maybe 50 years and I have no idea why any adult thought this film was scary…

Lol...man, The Exorcist was and still is scary as fuck!

That little girl sitting up in bed with her eyes glowing and twisting her head around and jabbing herself with the crucifix.
The room being cold and freezing adds to the horror.

One of the scariest things about The Exorcist is how it BUILDS UP your anticipation for the horror by starting things off slow.

It doesn't start you off with the violent possession at first, it starts with hospital visits and medical exams and strange happenings that make you wonder....lol.

I don’t equate being drunk with being possessed by some demon.

This is because you aren't familiar with how actual possession works and how different levels of the human mind must usually be altered or suppressed first before another E/entity can influence, control, or possess it.

Dude goes to the bar drinks too much gets behind the wheel of a car causes an accident in which someone is killed and not remembering any of it; that’s just being drunk.

There's a difference between being DRUNK and BLACKING OUT.

They are often related...but different.

Being simply drunk which involves being uncoordinated and having slower reflexes, is much different than BLACKING OUT and not knowing who you are or where you are for hours at a time WHILE YOUR BODY is actually performing a well coordinated act of violence and mayhem.

Oh brother, OK no they don’t call alcohol spirits for nothing, but it has nothing to do with possession.

Lol....how do you know?

Were you a fly on the wall during it's etymological evolution?

Possession is just another one of those things. There are more reasonable, explanations like schizophrenia or epilepsy. The law of parsimony applies.

How does schizophrenia or epilepsy explain a person who never learned another language all of a sudden waking up speaking in a different voice and speaking another language?

Mental illness doesn't change the structure of the vocal cords or cause one to just "know" something as complex as another language?

What about a frail little 100 pound woman being able to throw off 3 or 4 grown male police officers who try to restrain her?

Does schizophrenia allow a person to defy the laws of physics?

If a scientist in a while lab coat and glasses comes on television tomorrow and announces they have discovered a case of actual possession, I bet you'd THEN accept it....lol.

I would have thought that by now, as a people we would have gotten beyond waiting until the White man slaps HIS approval on a particular subject before accepting it as truth or a possibility.

frankster

I have never experienced it first hand like in the movies

Which is why it would be a bit disappointing to even attempt to have a serious discussion about it.

However perhaps we both have seen possessions like the movies but just didn't know what we were witnessing.

Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicholas....a real factual person

True.

Also, Nick or St. Nick is an old middle ages term for the Devil.

Even as a kid I noticed how the words "Santa" and "Satan" were so similar with just a rearrangement of the letters.

ProfD

Imagine it being someone's job to catch spirits & stuff them in bottles for people to drink.

It's already part of the job description for some Spirit Workers...lol.

Those ancient legends about genies being in bottles and lamps didn't arrive out of thin air.

They had and still have substance behind them, lol.

As the video suggests, some forms of mental illnesses are a RESULT OF spiritual possession rather than simply an alternate explanation.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

BLACKING OUT and not knowing who you are or where you are for hours at a time WHILE YOUR BODY is actually performing a well coordinated act of violence and mayhem.

No, that’s not what happens. The alcohol simply affects your ability to retain memories of your experience when you were in that state, but in the moment you know exactly who you are and what you’re doing you simply don’t remember it.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How does schizophrenia or epilepsy explain a person who never learned another language all of a sudden waking up speaking in a different voice and speaking another language?

It doesn’t. Because what you’ve just described doesn’t happen there is no document in case of someone speaking a language. They knew nothing about fluently. You are taking stuff you’ve seen in movies or things that cranks have put out on the Internet as if it’s true.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If a scientist in a while lab coat and glasses comes on television tomorrow and announces they have discovered a case of actual possession, I bet you'd THEN accept it....lol.

First, the likelihood of that happening is about the same as a Scientist saying Santa Claus is real.

But if science made that discovery, and it was backed up by peer verification. I would have no choice, but to believe even if it conflicted with my previous beliefs.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

the White man slaps HIS approval on a particular subject before accepting it as truth or a possibility.

Why do you equate science with the white man?

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Those ancient legends about genies being in bottles and lamps didn't arrive out of thin air.

They had and still have substance behind them, lol.

Man, you will believe anything! You know, people have vivid imaginations and are able to make up stories that are only only thinly related to reality.

Just like your belief that Santa Claus is based upon Satan. It’s not but hey, you’re willing to believe anything so there it is.

As far as spirits being captured in a bottle. That idea is too nutty to even take seriously. If a non-corporeal entity like a spirit exists do you think it could be captured and trapped in a plastic ginger ale bottle?

5 hours ago, admin said:

As far as spirits being captured in a bottle. That idea is too nutty to even take seriously. If a non-corporeal entity like a spirit exists do you think it could be captured and trapped in a plastic ginger ale bottle?

I'm waiting for both brothas @Pioneer1 & @frankster to answer that question if they're willing to do so.🤣😎

18 hours ago, Troy said:

The military videos have already been shared here...

ok

I was hoping for some new footage.

18 hours ago, Troy said:

Calling everything from schizophrenia to drunkenness is just a renaming of possession makes no sense -- where is your scientific objectivity?

I have more than objectivity.....I have Perspective

The Ancients were just more straight forward and simply....Possession means you no longer have rational control over your body actions or thoughts

While modern science name the same blockage according to where it affects.....

When blood flow to the brain is blocked....it's called a stroke

When blood flow to the heart is blocked....it's called a heart a attack

When a blood flow in a blood vessel is blocked ....it's called thrombosis

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I have never experienced it first hand like in the movies

Which is why it would be a bit disappointing to even attempt to have a serious discussion about it.

Does second hand experience matter?

meaning I have experience it by observation of what one could call possessed..

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

However perhaps we both have seen possessions like the movies but just didn't know what we were witnessing.

Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicholas....a real factual person

True.

Also, Nick or St. Nick is an old middle ages term for the Devil.

Even as a kid I noticed how the words "Santa" and "Satan" were so similar with just a rearrangement of the letters.

True....

And Claus the way we pronounce it sounds like "Claws"

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

I'm waiting for both brothas @Pioneer1 & @frankster to answer that question if they're willing to do so.🤣😎

Can a Spirit be Caught in a Bottle.....Yes

Now some can be and some cannot....so not all Spirits can held captive in a bottle.

Believe or not a rope made from a thin t shirt weighing only 4oz can hold an Elephant weighing 6000lbs captive...

The Ancient talk and write of powerful Spirits called Jinn being held captive for centuries in bottles....we know the of Genii/Genie of Aladdin fame

13 minutes ago, frankster said:

Can a Spirit be Caught in a Bottle.....Yes

Now some can be and some cannot....so not all Spirits can held captive in a bottle.

How are spirits classified in order to know which can captured?

13 minutes ago, frankster said:

Believe or not a rope made from a thin t shirt weighing only 4oz can hold an Elephant weighing 6000lbs captive.

This only works because the elephant has been captured for so long it doesn't know &/or believe in its freedom.

13 minutes ago, frankster said:

The Ancient talk and write of powerful Spirits called Jinn being held captive for centuries in bottles....we know the of Genii/Genie of Aladdin fame

It would be interesting to know many people around the planet have genies in bottles.😁😎

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

How are spirits classified in order to know which can captured?

It is not about Classification...

It is about what you Know and Understand.....first and primarily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSE2SaJgwE

Angry Elephant Charges Safari Guide | Big 5 | African Wild Elephants

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

This only works because the elephant has been captured for so long it doesn't know &/or believe in it's freedom.

True....

That's the thing with Knowledge and Understanding.

When you do not know or understanding a thing it is Magical Miraculous Impossible or Ridiculous

The moment you have the Knowledge and Understanding it is simply mundane and self evident

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

It would be interesting to know many people around the planet have genies in bottles.😁😎

You would be surprise

Troy

No, that’s not what happens. The alcohol simply affects your ability to retain memories of your experience when you were in that state, but in the moment you know exactly who you are and what you’re doing you simply don’t remember it.

Many people report that when certain people drink alcohol, it's as if an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT person enters their bodies.

Their entirely personality changes.

This is also reported when it comes to conditions like multiple personality disorder.

All of this is EVIDENCE of spiritual possession.

It doesn’t. Because what you’ve just described doesn’t happen there is no document in case of someone speaking a language. They knew nothing about fluently. You are taking stuff you’ve seen in movies or things that cranks have put out on the Internet as if it’s true.

It doesn't happen much, but it happens enough for science to categorize it as an whole condition unto itself.

Foreign Language Syndrome (FLS) is a rare neuropsychiatric condition characterized by the sudden, involuntary use of a non-native language, with concurrent loss or suppression of the native language. Distinct from Foreign Accent Syndrome (FAS), FLS often arises acutely following anesthesia, brain injury, or psychological stress.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12388630/

But if science made that discovery, and it was backed up by peer verification. I would have no choice, but to believe even if it conflicted with my previous beliefs.

Is that a promise?

If I present to you ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC VERIFICATION of a person being possessed, would you then accept and believe it?

Why do you equate science with the white man?

Because HIS science is the only science you seem to accept....lol.

If a non-corporeal entity like a spirit exists do you think it could be captured and trapped in a plastic ginger ale bottle?

Before I answer that question, I take it from the way you worded it that you actually question the very EXISTENCE of non-corporeal entities like spirits?

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Many people report that when certain people drink alcohol, it's as if an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT person enters their bodies.

Their entirely personality changes.

Alcohol reduces inhibitions... man you act like you never drank to excess or been around someone who has. Making the leap to possession is absurd. One would have though experience would have taught you that.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Foreign Language Syndrome (FLS) is a rare neuropsychiatric condition characterized by the sudden, involuntary use of a non-native language, with concurrent loss or suppression of the native language. Distinct from Foreign Accent Syndrome (FAS), FLS often arises acutely following anesthesia, brain injury, or psychological stress.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12388630/

Dude! You do this all the time -- without exception you cite a source claiming to support an assertion of yours and it DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I have pointed this out to you previously that is when I started calling you incorrigible. Did you even read the study? Seriously, tell the truth. I actually read it before I responded to you the first time.

Read it. The paper CLEARLY states patients switch to a secondary language in which they have some proficiency...

Again, you want to believe these people are possessed so you cite paper you have not read and share video of lay people taking shit.

FLS is not possession!

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because HIS science is the only science you seem to accept....lol.

SMH, oh my goodness... Between you and Franster this week LOL!

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Before I answer that question, I take it from the way you worded it that you actually question the very EXISTENCE of non-corporeal entities like spirits?

No, I do not believe in a spirit that could be trapped in a bottle coke bottle or gain it's freedom only after granting you three wishes.

I do not reject the idea of spirits at all. I just don't believe they are responsible for FLS, the behavior of black out drunks, or any of the other conditions you have attributed simply because there are more reasonable explanations available.

Occam's Razor, Brother.

3 hours ago, Troy said:

SMH, oh my goodness... Between you and Franster this week LOL!

Gotta admit they keep the forum interesting. 🤣

While it appearsI do not share 1/2 their beliefs, I certainly can appreciate the conviction they bring to the dialog.😎

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Gotta admit they keep the forum interesting. 🤣

Yes, thery make the form interesting. But, like you, they actually make the forum POSSIBLE.

Troy

Alcohol reduces inhibitions...

Since you already acknowledge that it lowers inhibitions, why should it be such a far leap to consider that it also makes one more susceptible to being influenced and controlled by outside sources?

man you act like you never drank to excess or been around someone who has. Making the leap to possession is absurd. One would have though experience would have taught you that.

I've been drunk only twice in my life, and in both cases I never blacked out or didn't remember where I was or what I was doing.

Dude! You do this all the time -- without exception you cite a source claiming to support an assertion of yours and it DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I have pointed this out to you previously that is when I started calling you incorrigible. Did you even read the study? Seriously, tell the truth. I actually read it before I responded to you the first time.

Read it. The paper CLEARLY states patients switch to a secondary language in which they have some proficiency...

🫣

You're right, I didn't.

And I should have.

However the vast majority of times I present articles and scientific journals to back up my assertions and disagreements...they support them.

Especially dealing with the subject of race...lol.

This one time though, it did say those already with proficiency....and ofcourse you'll take that "out" and run with it.

I could find a dozen more articles that don't state that, but it wouldn't probably make any difference to you because your mind is made up against the idea of spiritual possession anyway.

No, I do not believe in a spirit that could be trapped in a bottle coke bottle or gain it's freedom only after granting you three wishes.

See, now you purposely add all of the fantasy and silliness to it in order to MAKE it sound ridiculous, which ofcourse makes it easier for you to dismiss.

Kind of like how somebody who doesn't want to take time to eat a healthy diet will stand there with a grin on his face and argue whether or not a french fry or chicken nugget will give them a heart attack if they eat it.

Over simplification is a common tactic to discredit and dismiss something.

ProfD

While it appearsI do not share 1/2 their beliefs, I certainly can appreciate the conviction they bring to the dialog

I have to admit, Troy took a little bit of the wind out of my sail after hitting me with that crucial part of the article that I failed to read before presenting it as evidence, lol.

frankster

Does second hand experience matter?

meaning I have experience it by observation of what one could call possessed..

Absolutely.

I'd be glad to read of any examples of possession that you've witnessed.

Can a Spirit be Caught in a Bottle.....Yes

Now some can be and some cannot....so not all Spirits can held captive in a bottle.

The same people who laugh at the thought of a spirit being held captive in a bottle reminds me of people 1000 years ago who would have laughed at the concept of a television and watching people and entire cities being "held captive" in a square box that you can fit on your lap.

Technology and time makes the difference.

ProfD and Troy

Are any of you familiar with HOLOGRAMS and how a true hologram picture is made up of tiny little images of the main image?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Can a Spirit be Caught in a Bottle.....Yes

Now some can be and some cannot....so not all Spirits can held captive in a bottle.

The same people who laugh at the thought of a spirit being held captive in a bottle reminds me of people 1000 years ago who would have laughed at the concept of a television and watching people and entire cities being "held captive" in a square box that you can fit on your lap.

Technology and time makes the difference.

Technology has changed a lot over 1.000 years.

People who lived 1,000 years ago would have been blown away by railroads & electricity & motor vehicles & mass transit & highways, etc.

To date, the best technology to which we have access cannot capture spirits if they did exist.

No way a human can capture & stuff spirits in a bottle.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD and Troy

Are any of you familiar with HOLOGRAMS and how a true hologram picture is made up of tiny little images of the main image?

Not familiar with a true holographic picture being made up of tiny images of the main.

I always thought holograms were created by manipulating light around an object.

Using holographic technology, they can create a Tupac or Michael Jackson or Prince concert.😁😎

On 8/17/2026 at 8:08 PM, Pioneer1 said:

You're right, I didn't.

And I should have

Thank you for admitting that we can continue to have a conversation :-)

On 8/17/2026 at 8:08 PM, Pioneer1 said:

However the vast majority of times I present articles and scientific journals to back up my assertions and disagreements...they support them.

Especially dealing with the subject of race...lol.

Honestly, every article that I’ve read that you cited did not support your argument. Now that’s not saying that I’ve read every article that you’ve ever posted.

On 8/17/2026 at 8:08 PM, Pioneer1 said:

See, now you purposely add all of the fantasy and silliness to it in order to MAKE it sound ridiculous, which ofcourse makes it easier for you to dismiss.

I’m just reiterating your words calling in a Coke bottle doesn’t change the meaning it just helps you see how ridiculous what you’re saying sounds.