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The Attempted Decimation Of The African (Black) Population Of The United States

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This year, I noticed that many television channels both broadcast and cable are coming out with new shows where the cast are predominately made up of AfroAmerican men who are flamboyantly gay, drag queens, and queer.  And although you can find gay and transgendered men in ALL races......I've noticed that there are almost NO shows on television featuring a cast predominately made up of gay and transgendered men who are Latino, Jewish, or Native American.
I've also noticed at a lot of the George Floyd protests there were a lot of LGBTQIA+  demonstrators and flags attempting to conflate their interests with police brutality and Civil Rights.


 

From observing over the past several years how many Caucasians in the media regardless of their sexuality are AGGRESSIVELY PROMOTING the sexuality and social habits of the LGBTQIA+  Community towards AfroAfricans more so than towards any other oppressed groups like Latinos, Jews, Native Americans, ect........


And having lived around the nation in various states and regions and seeing a large number of AfroAmerican men and increasingly large number of AfroAmerican women dating, marrying, and having children by Caucasians but insisting that these children identify as "Black"...…
 

 

I've come to the conclusion that there are 2 massive agendas going on:
 

1. An agenda to merge or marry the AfroAmerican community WITH the Caucasian LGBTQIA community and encourage as many AfroAmerican men and women as possible to practice a NON-heterosexual lifestyle.

2. To reduce and control the AFRICAN (Black) by encouraging both African men and African women who ARE heterosexual to desire and have sex with other races other than Africans in order to "water down" their offspring resulting in a large number of bi-racial people who may CLAIM to be "Black' but infact are truly not.


And BOTH agendas are converging together to REDUCE the actual African (Black) population in the United States!

 

 

For those of you over 50 years of age, if you've paid attenion to society you've noticed that there are clearly LESS phenotypically West African (meaning dark brown skinned with kinky hair) children in society today than there were 40 years ago.
 

If you look at the AfroAmerican community today many if not most of the children are mixed or light-skinned and despite being CALLED "Black" actually look nothing like the "Black" children of 40 or 50 years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

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Typical AfroAmerican children and families of the 1970s
(40 + years ago)


 

 

 

 

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Typical AfroAmerican children and families today.

 



You can clearly see a difference in the physical features between the two time periods.



 


Now compare that with THESE pictures of Caucasian children during the same time  period...……………

 

 

 

Kids on Via Seville, in the 1970s

 

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Typical Caucasian children and family of the 1970s





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Typical Caucasian Children Today

 

 


You don't see ANY differences between their phenotype (physical appearance) .
The Caucasians of TODAY look just like they did 40 and 50 years ago!


 

 

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I find it VERY interesting how......

If you get in your car and turn on AM stations in most places in the United States you'll hear Caucasian talk-radio show hosts barking out one conspiracy theory after the other about how "the government" is doing this or that and how they are trying to diminish the white race and attack Western civilization.  And you have thousands of other Caucasians who believe those conspiracy theories and support them and have one big "circle-jerk" party of conpiracy theorism.

 

However AfroAmericanas who have....for 400 years....often been the MAIN TARGET for conspiracies from drugs, to disease, to economic deprivation -now all of a sudden don't want to believe in conspiracies.

Some of you have let your so-called "progressive" Caucasian friends trick you into NOT believing that someone is deliberately trying to harm you and kill you.
 

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They did the same thing with the Native American population.....................



Look at some pictures of the original Native Americans:


Pictures of American Indians | National Archives

 

 

 

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Now look at who are calling themselves "Native American" today:

 

 

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Lol.....

If you don't think there's some sort of AGENDA going on, you're crazy as hell.

 

 

 

 

 

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You need help my Brother.

 

I just spend two nights in the Navajo Nation and saw hundreds of what you would view as phenotypically native American.

 

The racially ambiguous people come from Black and white people since these people are all considered Black your reasoning is nkt logical for it is white people who "lose" with race mixing.

 

But no, there is no grand conspiracy here.

 

However, I will acknowledge that I too have noticed - much more, disproportionately more perhaps, gay and mixed race imagery on TV.

 

But there is also more Black imagery on TV too.

 

Maybe I notice the mixed race and LGBTQ+ because it is relatively new to me.

 

It is no wonder white folks in the bible belt are bugging out...

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Troy

 

 

I ABSOLUTELY NEED HELP!

 

I thought that went without saying....lol.

 

I've needed help for YEARS and I STILL need it and will probably need it for years to come!

I need mental, physical, spiritual, financial, ect....help.

But I must have REAL help.
...not ceremonial procedures and timewasting sessions that this society offers but don't really lead to constructive and long lasting improvements!

 

 

Like Neely Fuller Jr. said, we as people of color in this society are not in our right minds and need all the help we can get.
Especially with what this society has done to us!


I heard one African man during a speech at a university tell an audience of AfroAmericans that when he first came to the United States and saw AfroAmericans he wondered why they were so lazy, unambitious, and seemed to act so crazy.....but after spending 10 years here and seeing what was done to our people in just that short amount of time (he worked in a hospital) he said he was suprised that nearly ALL of them weren't crazy...lol.



Yes, real Native Americans do exist.
I didn't say they didn't.
I used to live in Arizona and saw quite a few Hopis and others.

But they are slowing being "watered down" over time to where the true darker ones are being regulated to reservations and out of the media while the mixed up and Caucasian ones CLAIMING Native American status are taking much of the limelight.

 

 

 

The racially ambiguous people come from Black and white people since these people are all considered Black your reasoning is nkt logical for it is white people who "lose" with race mixing.

 

Not exactly sure what you're saying, you may want to make your statement a little more clear but.......

 

I DO NOT consider those who are mixed between Black and White "Black"....I consider them mixed.

And my point IS that those last group of pictures of people CALLING themselves Native Americans were actually NOT Native Americans but more accurately Caucasians with only trace amounts of Native American ancestry......and that they are attempting to do the same thing with AfroAmericans.

 

They are attempting to "water down" the AfroAmerican population to the point that in 2 or 3 generations you'll have blonde haired blue eyed pale skinned people running around in high-top fades and dredlocks CLAIMING to be "African Americans".

 

You see a little bit of it already with the "Kardashian" phenomena.

I even caught @Chevdove calling Kim Kardashian an "African American" a few times!
Others have done this too!

When you take race and regulate it to "culture", you get this type of confusion.

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Well culture is real and race is a subject construct, so your argument of who is Afro-American is purely subjective. As a result people will always have room to disagree with you, besides Blackness is a matter of opinion.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Not exactly sure what you're saying, you may want to make your statement a little more clear but.......

 

What I'm saying is, so called "race mixing" decreases the number of white people more than it does Black people. That is why white racist were so against the "mongrel mixing of the races."

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

...he said he was suprised that nearly ALL of them weren't crazy...lol.

 

Seriously, this is perfectly plausible -- especially if you are poor.

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Troy

 

 

Well culture is real and race is a subject construct, so your argument of who is Afro-American is purely subjective. As a result people will always have room to disagree with you, besides Blackness is a matter of opinion.


Races is just as real as culture.
Just as culture is based on a pattern of behavioral characteristics.....a person's culture is based on a set of phenotypical characteristics.

 

If you believe "Blackness" is a matter of mere OPINION then you can't argue with anyone who decides to CALL themselves "Black" regardless as to what they look like.
Do you understand the avalance of problems and confusion this would cause?

 

 

 

 

What I'm saying is, so called "race mixing" decreases the number of white people more than it does Black people. That is why white racist were so against the "mongrel mixing of the races."

 

Not necessarily; it depends how "white people" and "black people" are defined in society.


Unlike English based societies like the United States where only "pure" Caucasians are considered "White"....

In Spanish based societies like Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic having  ANY Spanish (Caucasian) ancestry makes you Spanish or Caucasian or "White".

So, in Latin America race mixing actually INCREASES the amount of "white" people by definition.

Like Neely Fuller Jr. said, those White Supremacists who are incharge determine who is and who ain't considered "White" in their societies.  And their definitions change from one society to the next depending on their needs and purposes.

In places like the United States where Caucasians are still the dominant race.....they can afford to keep the definition straight and "pure".
In places like Mexico and Puerto Rico where Africans and Indians outnumber them....they have to "make" some of them White in order to increase their numbers.
 

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Pioneer you just made my point, and amazingly fail to see your own contradiction. 

 

On one hand you reject the notion that the black and white races are a purely artificial constructs.

 

On the other hand, you fully embrace the European's rules as they are applied all willy-nilly across the globle. You go as far as to write:

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...White Supremacists who are incharge determine who is and who ain't considered "White" in their societies.  And their definitions change from one society to the next depending on their needs and purposes.

 

You find THAT less confusing than acknowledging there is only one race of people on this planet.

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Troy

 

 

On one hand you reject the notion that the black and white races are a purely artificial constructs.
On the other hand, you fully embrace the European's rules as they are applied all willy-nilly across the globle. You go as far as to write:

 

That wasn't a contradiction.
Race is NOT an artificial construct but a BIOLOGICAL REALITY.

Racial CATEGORIZATION is the artificial/man-made construct....but it is still legitimate just as categorizing animals into fish, mammals, and reptiles is legitimate.

The problem isn't that races are categorized, what I reject is HOW the Caucasians have historically mis-categorized them to suit their own purposes.
 

 

In other words.........

Just because someone categorizes gorillas and pigs as FISH instead of mammals......doesn't mean that neither fish nor mammals exist.

They DO exist and the differences ARE there and based in biological fact.

 

It's the MIS-categorization that is the issue creating the problems.....not not the actual categories themselves which again are based on reality.

 

 

 

 


You find THAT less confusing than acknowledging there is only one race of people on this planet.

 

There's nothing "confusing" about acknowledging there is only one race.

It's simply NOT TRUE.

 

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You can LOOK at people of different races and SEE that they look different regardless as to what someone says about them.

There is no need to be confused over that which is obviously NOT true, lol.
 

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On 7/22/2020 at 12:47 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I even caught @Chevdove calling Kim Kardashian an "African American" a few times!
Others have done this too!

 

LOL! @Pioneer1 What's up!?

 

I need to read this over this thread before I can understand why you are calling me out!!! LOL!

But firstly, my reasons for categorizing Kim Kardashian as "African American" is based on her husband Kanye West and historically, in how Black African people have been sidelined by inter-marrying with other kinds and cultures of people to a great degree. There is no way around it, because the children from these practices define our culture, and so, it does give people like Kim Kardashian the privilege of having the choice to be viewed as 'Black'. 

 

But, anyway, I need to start at the beginning of this thread and scan over your first post and other comments to understand the conversations and debate.

 

 

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Oh Chev.
Welcome back!
I figured you a Hebrew Israelite and thought you may have went down to Louisville to get busy.....lol.


No, it wasn't a call out.
I just had to mention your name in reference to Kim Kardashian and didn't want you to think I was talking about you behind your back so I used the " @Chevdove  " app to alert you to what was being said.

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48 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oh Chev.
Welcome back!
I figured you a Hebrew Israelite and thought you may have went down to Louisville to get busy.....lol.

 

ROFL!

 

What is going on in Louisville! I can't keep up, so much is happening.

@Pioneer1 you are too funny.

 

 

49 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

No, it wasn't a call out.
I just had to mention your name in reference to Kim Kardashian and didn't want you to think I was talking about you behind your back so I used the " @Chevdove  " app to alert you to what was being said.

 

Okay. I am going to read this thread.

51 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

... I figured you a Hebrew Israelite

 

Firstly, I am an African American DOS and the rest of me, well... it's research.

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On 7/14/2020 at 10:19 AM, Pioneer1 said:

I've come to the conclusion that there are 2 massive agendas going on:
 

1. An agenda to merge or marry the AfroAmerican community WITH the Caucasian LGBTQIA community and encourage as many AfroAmerican men and women as possible to practice a NON-heterosexual lifestyle.

2. To reduce and control the AFRICAN (Black) by encouraging both African men and African women who ARE heterosexual to desire and have sex with other races other than Africans in order to "water down" their offspring resulting in a large number of bi-racial people who may CLAIM to be "Black' but infact are truly not.


And BOTH agendas are converging together to REDUCE the actual African (Black) population in the United States!

 

WELL, this is scary.

Nevertheless, these two movements against us, yes, I feel too that this is happening, however, I also feel that this was written about a long time ago, therefore, I try to have hope in that the outcome will be beneficial, in the end.

 

@Pioneer1 This is one of the main reasons I did NOT vote for former president Obama; he deliberately furthered both of these movements. 

 

On 7/23/2020 at 9:37 AM, Troy said:

...contradiction. On one hand you reject the notion that the black and white races are a purely artificial constructs.

 

On the other hand, you fully embrace the European's rules as they are applied all willy-nilly across the globle.

 

This subject of 'races being a social construct' has been a challenge for me to understand, but due to @Troy, I have been making effort and trying to gain a better understanding. 

 

On 7/23/2020 at 9:59 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Caucasians have historically mis-categorized them to suit their own purposes.

 

WOW! So, @Pioneer1 this statement that you made led me to reflect on the pictures you also posted! 

 

On 7/23/2020 at 9:59 AM, Pioneer1 said:

There's nothing "confusing" about acknowledging there is only one race.

It's simply NOT TRUE.

 

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You can LOOK at people of different races and SEE that they look different regardless as to what someone says about them.

There is no need to be confused over that which is obviously NOT true, lol.

 

It depends!!!

 

In your own words, White 'Caucasian' leaders have 'mis-categorized' people to suit their purposes. COLORISM is a major problem in their decisions to design RACIAL CONSTRUCTS. the two girls, IMO, reflect that they come from ONE ORIGIN!

 

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Thank you @Chevdove if nothing written here prompts you to consider your current views or exposes you to new ones, then you missed the point.

 

Too many people get mad because of something someone typed.

 

I was trying to figure out how I missed you being a Black Israelite. I figured, if true, you must have gone rogue cause I don't think I seen a public facing female Black Israelite.

 

As Pioneer says, welcome back we missed you.

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Chev

 

 

Just because two different people come from the SAME ORIGIN.....doesn't mean they are not different all together.

 

A boy and girl came from the same mother, but they are DIFFERENT SEXES.

 

Two girls can come from the same mother but if the father of one is Caucasian and the father of the other is African.....then those two girls would be of two different RACES.
Despite being of the same origin.

 

Yes, both we Africans and Caucasians came from the SAME ORIGIN.....the Asiatic Black race; however we are clearly different from eachother and even from the Asian Blacks for the most part.

 

 

Colorism would be a problem if it were the ONLY factor in determining racial differences
However it's more to race than simply color or the AMOUNT of melanin a person has.
 

It's also the TYPE of melanin different races have as well as the:

Hair texture.
Hair structure.
Bone density.
Nose shape
Mouth shape
 

And those are just the PHENOTYPICAL characteristics that help determine race.
I haven't gotten into the PSYCHOLOGICAL differences, as well as the GENETIC differences.
 

A lot of factors goes into properly separating people into the respective racial categories.....the same as when separating people into different sexual categories.
You don't just look to see if the have wide hips or not to determine if they are male or female, you look at the entire person.
 

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@Pioneer1 poppycock!

 

You must choose a different word than "race" to the describe the phenotypical and psychological differences of people.

 

Every educated person knows there is only one race and the all the dimensions you use can not be universally applied to all humans. This is junk science, filed in the same draw as the flat earth idea.

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" Yo hold up....uhh ....did he just say "poppycock"??? "

 

 

 

You must choose a different word than "race" to the describe the phenotypical and psychological differences of people.

Lol, And you're gonna have to choose a different word than "poppycock" if you don't  want me to question your "Blackness"....lol.

 


*You must have gone ahead and married that White woman even when I told you not to.
I KNEW she'd change you....lol.

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ROTFLMBAO!

 

Yeah I hooked up with a white woman from the 18 century 😉

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1 hour ago, Troy said:

I was trying to figure out how I missed you being a Black Israelite. I figured, if true, you must have gone rogue cause I don't think I seen a public facing female Black Israelite.

 

As Pioneer says, welcome back we missed you.

 

ROFL!

Thank you @Troy

 

38 minutes ago, Troy said:

You must choose a different word than "race" to the describe the phenotypical and psychological differences of people.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Two girls can come from the same mother but if the father of one is Caucasian and the father of the other is African.....then those two girls would be of two different RACES.
Despite being of the same origin.

 

WHEW! Poppycock! LOL. Okay, ... WOW.

@Pioneer1 I am trying to get a better understanding of the term, and your explanation only adds more confusion for me.

 

To determine that both girls are of "two different RACES" based on this American system's racial construct is for me, the very problem.

 

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Troy

 

 

Do you appreciate the the huge number of problems your line of thinking...that different races do not exist.....would cause in society?

 

You would only ADD to the confusion and frustration of AfroAmericans who would not only be VICTIMS of racism but would be confused and at a loss over how to explain it or articulate what they're going through.

 

Now, I've heard you use the terms "Black guy" and "White guy".

So if race doesn't exist, what is YOUR definition of a "White person"?
What is your definition of a "Black person"?

 

 

 

Chev


WHEW! Poppycock! LOL. Okay, ... WOW.

@Pioneer1 I am trying to get a better understanding of the term, and your explanation only adds more confusion for me.

 

Well allow me to add some clarity (or perhaps more confusion....lol).......


"Poppycock" pretty much means the same thing as:  TOMMY ROT  or  UTTER RUBBISH  ....lol.

 

 

 

 

To determine that both girls are of "two different RACES" based on this American system's racial construct is for me, the very problem.

 

You actually agree with me.


The fact that race EXIST isn't the problem, it's how race is DEFINED and ORGANIZED that's the problem

Like I've said over and over, RACE ITSELF is a concrete and biological fact....it doesn't change; but RACIAL CATEGORIES are determined by whoever is making the rules.

Just like we as AfroAmericans called ourselves by different names at different periods of history.
Colored one period, Negroes another period, Blacks another period...same people but CALLING themselves different names.

"Colored" people and "Negroes" didn't disappear and go extinct...they just changed names.

 

Just because someone lies and switches up the names and titles he gives people or things....doesn't mean those people or things don't exist.
 

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15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

The fact that race EXIST isn't the problem, it's how race is DEFINED and ORGANIZED that's the problem

 

Absolutely understand you on this point! @Pioneer1

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like I've said over and over, RACE ITSELF is a concrete and biological fact....

 

Oh no! I don't think so.

 

The word 'Race' is the problem here for me. It is NOT equal to terms used from a concrete, biological categorization at all.

I think, maybe, that the term RACE is something used by this system and they have completely distorted the truth.

Like I said, I really came to think about what @Troy was saying, and I do believe that the term RACE is some kind of 'construct',

that stems from this system. 

21 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

but RACIAL CATEGORIES are determined by whoever is making the rules.

 

That's just it! Mankind does NOT have that right to make those determinations! Science and reproduction dictates those rules.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just like we as AfroAmericans called ourselves by different names at different periods of history.
Colored one period, Negroes another period, Blacks another period...same people but CALLING themselves different names.

"Colored" people and "Negroes" didn't disappear and go extinct...they just changed names.

 

Yes, but all of those terms apply, for the most part, to people who share a common genetic and phenotypic basis. 

Therefore, when mankind construct African people based on our traits to be 'lesser' then, that to me maybe what

a racial construction defines? I don't know, I am still in the learning process.

 

25 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

"Poppycock" pretty much means the same thing as:  TOMMY ROT  or  UTTER RUBBISH  ....lol.

 

LOL! It all sound pretty BRITISH or White to me!

 

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17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do you appreciate the the huge number of problems your line of thinking...that different races do not exist.....would cause in society?

 

That is the same line of reasoning people used to not emancipate Black people. 

 

Sure, forcing people to change entrenched idea even when they fly in the face of truth is always hard.

 

17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Now, I've heard you use the terms "Black guy" and "White guy".

So if race doesn't exist, what is YOUR definition of a "White person"?
What is your definition of a "Black person"?

 

Again your question is based upon a presumption I don't ascribe to. I do not believe there Black and white people. Their are just people.

 

I'm not blind and I recognize how you and most other define black and white people so i can speak your language, so to speak.

 

I do however reject all the characteristics you ascribe to people based upon how they look (what you call race).

 

Again AALBC exists in reaction to people with your mindset @Pioneer1, people who treat differently, usually worse, because of they way we look. 

 

Americans have different subcultures based upon class geography, religion, history of enslavement, political party; sexual orientation, etc.

 

Often people of the same subculture present in a similar fashion, but when they don't you even up with terms like "oreo."

 

There is only one race.

 

We just need to accept this and move on. Besides relgion alone is enough to keep us at each other's throats.

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Del

 

Electroconvulsive Therapy
Electroshock

 

Lol.....
It clearly didn't work for YOU.

So why would it work for anyone else?

 

 

 

 

 


Chev

 

The word 'Race' is the problem here for me. It is NOT equal to terms used from a concrete, biological categorization at all.

 

The word "sex" is used for concrete biological categorization.
Sexual differences are based on clear and concrete physical, chemical, and biological differences.

Why is "race" not afforded the same respect?

 

 

 

That's just it! Mankind does NOT have that right to make those determinations! Science and reproduction dictates those rules.

 

That would be like saying mankind doesn't have the right to call someone a MAN or  WOMAN or dictate the rules of what makes them different.
Or that mankind shouldn't  name or categorize ANYTHING for that matter.


For me, it's not a matter of who has the right or not, but it's more a matter of how people choose to organize the information they receive so that we are on the same page when it comes to communicating.

 

 

 

 

 


Troy

 

 

That is the same line of reasoning people used to not emancipate Black people

 

Huh???
How so?

 

 

 

 

Again your question is based upon a presumption I don't ascribe to. I do not believe there Black and white people. Their are just people.

I'm not blind and I recognize how you and most other define black and white people so i can speak your language, so to speak.


So are you telling me that you not only PARTICIPATE in but actually help PERPETUATE an idea or concept that which you believe to be false and non-existent?

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is only one race.

We just need to accept this and move on.

 

You mentioned Barak Obama as being a "biracial" man.
If there is only ONE race....how can he or anyone else be "biracial"?

 

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"Biracial," again is the language of the culture scientifically it is meaningless.

 

White people said Black people were genetically inferior, more animals less than human. This justified permanent enslavement. Trying to convince whites that we were equal was met with violence.

 

The resistance to the fact that we are all one race is meeting similar resistance.

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20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The word "sex" is used for concrete biological categorization.
Sexual differences are based on clear and concrete physical, chemical, and biological differences.

Why is "race" not afforded the same respect?

 

@Pioneer1 WOW, I think your response sort of supports what I am saying here. 

This system has exploited the term 'sex' and have defined it on 'their construction' and not true science. They define 'sex' based on what they determine to be Male or female. They assign gender today NOT based on true science. 

 

Let me explain more. When a baby is born INTERSEXED, today doctors 'assign' a gender based on their construction and for this reason, historically, many intersexed people have been reported to have significant problems due to this non-scientific decision. However, scientifically as as the ancient scriptures say as well, if a baby is born with male organs, then that baby is definitely MALE!!! Now, there are so many variants of intersexed people, for example, some may appear to have more of a female aspect and therefore doctors today will make a choice and then there are new categories made. But science dictates that if that person has male organs, it is MALE.

 

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That would be like saying mankind doesn't have the right to call someone a MAN or  WOMAN or dictate the rules of what makes them different.
Or that mankind shouldn't  name or categorize ANYTHING for that matter.


For me, it's not a matter of who has the right or not, but it's more a matter of how people choose to organize the information they receive so that we are on the same page when it comes to communicating.

 

And again, this is the very issue of what I am addressing about the term 'sex' and 'race'. 

When people today in this government choose for others what they want to say whether man or woman or 'race' then, it will be confusion because we are not just apart of this system but we are a part of the world. So, eventually, this confusion will be dealt with on a broader level, globally, because mankind does NOT set the rules. 

When intersexed men are categorized as being female, sooner or later, it will cause major problems as it did in ancient times. 

 

the term 'race' today is defined NOT based on true science, so this is why imo, there is so much problems today.

 

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is only one race.

We just need to accept this and move on.

 

You mentioned Barak Obama as being a "biracial" man.
If there is only ONE race....how can he or anyone else be "biracial"?

 

YES, I understand this question!!! Thanks @Pioneer1 for this question!

Even though today the races of people are based on mankind's construction, still to say that "There is only one race" as @Troy states, needs to be more understood.

It's true that there is one origin to us, based on my understanding, but for specific reasons, the human races is stratified and for some strange reason some 'races' of people have come to oppress others based on Colorism.

 

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Troy

 

 

"Biracial," again is the language of the culture scientifically it is meaningless.

 

Here is a SCIENTIFIC article (one of many) that clearly acknowledges the difference between races and establishes that some people are MULTI-racial:

 

 

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This article presents the findings of a qualitative study of multiracial individuals’ understanding of identity, race and human genetic variation. The debate regarding the correlation between race, genetics and disease has expanded, but limited empirical data has been collected regarding the lay public’s perspective. 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600806/ 

 


Just admit  that YOU don't want to accept the reality of race, but don't say it's not scientific.
Science certainly acknowledges race!

 

 

 

 

 

White people said Black people were genetically inferior, more animals less than human. This justified permanent enslavement. Trying to convince whites that we were equal was met with violence.

 

This has NOTHING to do with the fact that different races exist.

 

 

 

The resistance to the fact that we are all one race is meeting similar resistance.

 

Lol....
It's called burying your head in the sand and TRYING to ignore reality.

 

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Chev @Chevdove

 

 

This system has exploited the term 'sex' and have defined it on 'their construction' and not true science. They define 'sex' based on what they determine to be Male or female. They assign gender today NOT based on true science. 

 

It is my understanding that science separates SEX from GENDER and that sex as defined today is absolutely based on BIOLOGICAL characteristics (penis, vagina, testosterone, estrogen, ect.....) 

 

Gender is fluid in their definition, but not sex.

 

 

 

 

 

When a baby is born INTERSEXED, today doctors 'assign' a gender based on their construction and for this reason, historically, many intersexed people have been reported to have significant problems due to this non-scientific decision. However, scientifically as as the ancient scriptures say as well, if a baby is born with male organs, then that baby is definitely MALE!!! Now, there are so many variants of intersexed people, for example, some may appear to have more of a female aspect and therefore doctors today will make a choice and then there are new categories made. But science dictates that if that person has male organs, it is MALE.

 

Well from what you're telling me, BOTH are wrong!

Those who will take a clearly intersexed baby and ASSIGN it a single sex instead of accepting the reality that it is both AS WELL AS those who will see an intersexed baby and just slap a "male" label on it and ignore it's female attributes are BOTH in error!

One is just as bad as the other.

 

Intersexed means JUST THAT of BOTH SEXES.

If the truth were told then they would carry BOTH labels and not be forced into one or the other.

And this is the same with race.

 

Under a TRUE and ACCURATE classification system, both races would be included instead of only one while ignoring the other.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Intersexed means JUST THAT of BOTH SEXES.

 

No, that would defy all scientific classifications on a global level. 

scientific classification in how Family is determined, how Genus is determined, how species are determined, etc. are all based on a repetition of reproduction.

so no matter what, if a baby is born with male organs that secret male testosterone, etc. then that baby is definitely male.

Only males can secret this type of 'androgen' [?], not females. Therefore, scientifically, that baby is male, no matter how little the level of androgen is secreted or how much.

There is no such occurrence as Female organs having this trait, at all.

 

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It seems to me that if a person has BOTH sets of sex organs (male AND female) then it wouldn't be fair or accurate to totally ignore one set and identify them with only the other.

It would be like watching a person eat a hamburger and calling them a "vegetarian" because they are eating the lettuce and tomatoes but totally ignoring the big beef patty they're chopping down on.


Now, if they have a PREDOMINANCE of one set of organs over the other......
Say they have a penis and testicles but only have one ovary and nothing else about them is feminine.....then yes I can see labeling them male.
But hell, if they have BOTH.
EVERYTHING a girl has and EVERYTHING a boy has....then they ARE BOTH.

 

 

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*BTW, White Supremacists are introducing a lot of chemicals into the environment targeting people of color to influence them into being born intersexed and homosexual.
All types of chemicals are being found in water supplies across the nation and we wonder why so many AfroAmerican children are obese, funny shaped, and sexually confused.

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32 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

*BTW, White Supremacists are introducing a lot of chemicals into the environment targeting people of color to influence them into being born intersexed and homosexual.
All types of chemicals are being found in water supplies across the nation and we wonder why so many AfroAmerican children are obese, funny shaped, and sexually confused.

 

I believe you!  @Pioneer1 for more reasons that one!

This attempt to target people of color to be born intersexed goes way far back in time!

 

32 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

then it wouldn't be fair or accurate to totally ignore one set and identify them with only the other.

 

And this is the very reason why there has been a movement to define people of color to have this INTERSEX PRESENCE.

Many of the original intersexed beings way back in ancient times have resisted this category of defining intersexed beings as being 2/3RDS MALE!

Nevertheless, there is no way around it, all intersexed beings stem from MALENESS!

It may seem unfair, but that is the science of it.

Even if intersexed people express a high 'physical appearance' of being female, it does NOT erase the fact that their beginning development stems from having male organs and this is the key.

 

32 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

it wouldn't be fair or accurate to totally ignore one set and identify them with only the other.

 

That is just it. The presence of female traits are NOT being totally ignored and that is why these kinds of births are called INTERSEXED but no matter what, 

ALL INTERSEXED BEINGS STEM FROM THE FOUNDATION OF HAVING MALE ORGANS DEVELOP first. There is no such thing as

 

a 'female developing organs first and then male organs develop'!!! ALL INTERSEXED PEOPLE are initially born with MALE ORGANS THAT SECRET MALE HORMONES. In other words, they have A Y CHROMOSOME!!! That absolutely means MALE.

 

So the anatomically straight Y-DNA African male NEVER expressed this INTERSEXED PRESENCE, not until species interbred!!!

@Pioneer1 I hope you are understanding what I am getting at here? This is part of the problem with White Supremacy today! 

So today, yes, people are assigned genders, but no matter what they look like physically, they still have a Y-DNA present!!!

It may seem unfair, but that Y-Chromosome is still there. 

If a X-Chromosome has an attached SRY-gene that moonlighted then, it is because of the presence of a Y Chromosome. 

There are many types of definitions of intersexed births, but again, all of them have a Y-Chromosome that was present!!!

 

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On 7/29/2020 at 1:26 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Science certainly acknowledges race!

 

Stop saying that; it is not true!  At least not in the way you are asserting, a genetically defined definition of race.

 

Race is a relatively new social construct with no basis in genetics.  Otherwise there would be a test for race, but there is not one because one is impossible to create

 

You OBVIOUSLY did not read the article you linked to.  If you did you would have read that it supports what I've been saying.  This tells me you are being intellectually dishonest @Pioneer1 and I'm disappointed in you 😞

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Chev

 

 

This attempt to target people of color to be born intersexed goes way far back in time!

 

How far back?
It shouldn't go any further back than the existence of Caucasians.

 

 

 

 


Troy

 

 

It's is absolutely true and I've proven it dozens of times.  You just refuse to accept the truth.

 

Please explain to me that an article that highlights the RACIAL DIFFERENCES support what you've been saying about there being only "one" race?

If anything, it supports what I've said about the problem with the CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM in the United States and how erroneous it is....more so than whether or not what they're basing it on exists or not.

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1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

It shouldn't go any further back than the existence of Caucasians.

 

WOW @Pioneer1 this word 'CAUCASIAN' amazingly speaks to this very subject!!! 

RACE is a modern day construction!!!

I completely understand why you refer to White people 'from the Caucasus Mountains' as being Caucasian, but as you know, you and I go rounds ever so often about this term!

I have researched this word, and THE ORIGINIAL CAUCASIANS are NEGROES, DARK BLACK/BROWN NEGROES from the ancient east world.

 

I do understand too, today this term is exclusive and refers to White Europeans who have origins from the Caucasus, but I tell you the origins of this term does go back to ancient east world Negroes and scholars try to block this truth but there are scripts that reveal this origin. This term 'CAUCASIAN' is a perfect example of how

 

RACE is a social construct!

 

Caucasians today are a manifestation of a Racial Construct and are defined to be pure Caucasians meaning-- White skinned or Pure White skinned people. But we know, scientifically that can't be true because White Caucasians today have melanin. Unless they have albinism, then they have melanin and this stems from 

 

BLACK AFRICAN ORIGINS!!! So when you say;

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

This attempt to target people of color to be born intersexed goes way far back in time!

 

How far back?
It shouldn't go any further back than the existence of Caucasians.

 

That would be  only partially true!!! Because the Original Caucasians were African Negroes! But Caucasians are a dominant manifestation of intense racial inter-breeding of two different early species. 

 

The presence of the ANATOMICAL Straight Y-DNA Male origins begins from ONE AFRICAN MALE ORIGIN but prior to this humans on this planet earth were completely intersexed for hundreds of thousands of years. These intersexed beings did have an earlier origin to which, yes there were anatomically Y-DNA REPRODUCTIONS that did occur but those early BLACK or DARK SKINNED hominids completely died off. There DNA MARKER continued to be expressed in Neanderthals though, but all Neanderthals are intersexed to various degrees--every single one of them.

 

So, to respond to your statement, CAUCASIANS, meaning White Caucasians CANNOT possibly be INTERSEXED no more than anyone else, black or white on this planet because their origins are from Africa! White Caucasian men reproduce and sons are born from them! BUT this too is the mystery as to obsession of having baby boys be born amongst the higher number of baby girls being born; the mystery lies in the presence of Black African Y-DNA. After the 3rd-4th generations of White Sex Selection with the purpose of having a Pure-White-Race [Racial Construction], I would believe the potential at this time for more intersexed births would be higher! So this is why 'Population Genetics' would be important to understand!  So in order to understand the many intersexed births that are still occurring today, you have to go much farther back in time, way before the presence of todays White Europeans even. Now the percentage of intersexed births are much higher in White people than African people because it is based on the genetic presence of Black African DNA and definitely melanin. But even today, there are African people born intersexed.

 

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Lol......

If we've gone round after round, I'm sure during one of those rounds I've told you the ORIGIN of the word "Caucasian".

"Caucasian" was one of the first terms used to label the NEW group of people on our planet that most refer to as "White" today.
It means "weak bones and weak blooded".

Another early term for them was "Adamu" or "Adamite".


You said that the original Caucasians were Black, but that's like saying the original Greeks were Black.
You're mixing up the people with the land.

Yes, the original people who lived in the LAND today referred to as the Caucasus mountains were Black.....but THEY didn't refer to themselves as Caucasians and that land at THAT time wasn't called the Caucasus mountains.
They called themselves something else.  


To draw an analogy........

If your family's last name is JOHNSON and yall move into a house.  It is NOW the "Johnson's Residence".
But if the people who lived in that house before you did were named "Smith".....you don't refer to them as the "Original Johnsons", you call them the SMITHS!
The name of the house is determined by those who INHABIT it, and not the other way around.

The ORIGINAL Caucasians just like the ORIGINAL Jews were Caucasians and the mountains are named after THEM but don't confuse them with the land they inhabit which was named something else before they inhabited it.
 

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45 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

"Caucasian" was one of the first terms used to label the NEW group of people on our planet that most refer to as "White" today.
It means "weak bones and weak blooded".

 

That's not true because Neanderthals are White and they are scripted to be here long before the term Caucasian was scripted. Go to the Smithsonian and that is one obvious reference. 

 

47 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

The ORIGINAL Caucasians just like the ORIGINAL Jews were Caucasians

 

The Biblical script do not say this about the Jews. The Jews come from Abra-Ham and he was not White Caucasian. 

@Pioneer1 You provide no concrete references.  So what you are saying is that Caucasian men and Adam men have their own Y-DNA, I get you.

 

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Neanderthals weren't here BEFORE we designated the term "Caucasian" for those we originally termed the Adamu, they came AFTER.

All Neanderthals are are just a branch or sub-group of degenerate half-wild Caucasians who.....while they were still in the caves....had degenerated so far into savagery through incest and improper dietary habits that they began to resemble animals in looks and behavior.



 


Jews were another sub-set or sub-group of Caucasians....infact probably the VERY OPPOSITE of those we call "Neanderthals".
 

The Jews were made up of a bunch of SMART Caucasians who were among the first to learn civilization when Musa came to the mountains to teach and civilize them.
He got them together and they formed a religious/social order known as Yahudim or "Jews"
That's why they call Musa/Moses the  LAW GIVER.....he gave them the laws that cleaned them up.

 

 

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To this very day, if you notice the "Jews" are among the smartest and most successful of the Caucasians.
When Hitler tried to get rid of them (because he was ignorant of their history) the Caucasian leaders around the world had a FIT, went to war against him, and put an end to that fool VERY quick!

Jews as a group also tend to be nicer to AfroAmericans than other Caucasians because they know who WE are (and our destiny) and know who Caucasians are and where they came from so they are a little more humble.

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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

termed the Adamu, they came AFTER.

 

@Pioneer1 Like I said, I understand you in that you think all White men and your version of Adamu have their own set of Y-DNA and don't stem from one Black African Y-DNA origin. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

All Neanderthals are are just a branch or sub-group of degenerate half-wild Caucasians

 

AGAIN,  I understand you in that you think all White men and your version of Caucasians have their own set of Y-DNA and don't stem from one Black African Y-DNA origin or any Black Male origins.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...Jews were another sub-set or sub-group of Caucasians.

 

AGAIN, I understand you in that you think all White men and your version of Jews have their own set of Y-DNA and don't stem from one Black African Y-DNA origin or any Black Male origins.

 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Musa came to the mountains to teach and civilize them.

 

I understand that  you think Moses of the Bible did not exist in Egypt and you think he came down out of the mountains the then went back up the mountains and has a set of Y-DNA not originated from the Black African male. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...Jews as a group also tend to be nicer to AfroAmericans

 

I understand @Pioneer1 that you ignore the fact that Eritreans and certain Ethiopians claim to be Jews and originate from Black African Male origins. I understand you beliefs in that the Jews today in the Middle East are the Jews and not the Ethiopians. Yes!!! LOL. I understand your beliefs.

 

I realize that you reject the 'Out of Africa' studies of the Y-DNA origins of all modern mankind in that they all stem from one male origin in Africa! I get you! LOL!

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20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Please explain to me that an article that highlights the RACIAL DIFFERENCES support what you've been saying about there being only "one" race?

 

If you read the article you would not need me to explain.

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AGAIN, I understand you in that you think all White men and your version of Jews have their own set of Y-DNA and don't stem from one Black African Y-DNA origin or any Black Male origins.
 

That's not an understanding.
That is a MIS-understanding.
 

Most, Jews actually do have SOME African origin.
And I've also told you although they don't come from Africans specifically -ALL Caucasians come from Black people.





I understand that  you think Moses of the Bible did not exist in Egypt and you think he came down out of the mountains the then went back up the mountains

Perdon, pero no compredes....lol.
 

If THAT is your understanding, then your understanding is incorrect because:

1. I don't believe the Moses of the Bible existed AT ALL.

2. I believe a man named MUSA (who is often called "Moses" in other sources) DID exist but didn't come FROM the Caucasus mountains.
I believe he came FROM Kemet and went TO the Caucasus mountains to civilize the savages.

 

 


 

I understand @Pioneer1 that you ignore the fact that Eritreans and certain Ethiopians claim to be Jews and originate from Black African Male origins. 
 

Lol, girl what's wrong with you?
That's not correct either, that is yet ANOTHER misunderstanding on your part.

Ethiopians and Eritreans don't claim to be Jews, they call themselves Beta Israel or the House of Israel.
The ONLY people who call themselves "Jews" are certain Caucasians and to a much lesser extent a handful of AfroAmericans who are confused and want to see themselves in the Bible.
House of Israel are a separate group from Jews.




 

I realize that you reject the 'Out of Africa' studies of the Y-DNA origins of all modern mankind in that they all stem from one male origin in Africa! I get you!
 

I don't know whether or not you get ME....but you finally got IT right, lol.
This statement is correct.
 

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On 7/22/2020 at 8:41 AM, Pioneer1 said:

 

They did the same thing with the Native American population.....................



Look at some pictures of the original Native Americans:


Pictures of American Indians | National Archives

 

 

 

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Native American Indian | Native american tribes, Native american ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




Now look at who are calling themselves "Native American" today:

 

 

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Elnu Abenaki S8gm8 Roger Longtoe Sheehan on Sacred Sites in ...

 

 

 

 

Chief Don Stevens Represents a New Era of Abenaki Leadership in ...

 

 


Lol.....

If you don't think there's some sort of AGENDA going on, you're crazy as hell.

 

 

The only one with the agenda is you! No... whites are not Native or Blacks. You know damn well those aren’t real Natives! The real Natives are in the West, and Mid West, the others are lighter but they they still speak their languages, and practice their cultures.  You Blacks are just not satisfied with your own identity, with Black African and White European ancestry, so of course you want to steal Native American identity. You also no damn well, those old picture are in black and white, so those Native people are going to be darker, than in modern color photos! Also, THEY lived outside back then so of course they would be darker than modern indigenous people like Navajos and Apache, Blackfeet, Chumash, Lakota, Choctaw. The F acts are they have an unbroken genealogical, cultural, and linguistically link to their prehistoric life, and historical ancestors. Most have lived on their ancestral homelands and territories for generations. Unlike African, African American ancestors , and their ungrateful  wannabe abo-centric descendants.

 

 

 

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