Pioneer1 Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 frankster Yes....Albinos are a result of a genetic Mutations.. In Your theory what is the cause of the white race since it's not a mutation? They were "grafted" or "selectively bred" by constantly taking people who were originally dark skinned and constantly mating the lightest and lightest ones over several generations until a new person of White skin and blonde hair was produced. You do know we have white albinos....who are of white people and suffer the same mutations as blacks. Yes, I know. Which is one of the reasons I know that White folks AREN'T Albinos...lol. Both white and black people have melanin, the gene that controls for skin color.... Yes but our melanin is DIFFERENT than theirs. You're absolutely right! Black people have EUMELANIN which is Black/Brown...while Caucasians tend to have PHEOMELANIN which is Red/Yellow. Expose those vitamin D deficient Blacks to enough Sunshine and the Deficiency disappears.....Milk is dietary and we spoke of the role of diet in culture. Yes, I agree. But still...I've continued to prove my point that there ARE racial differences in the body that affects the health of different races. Socially Agreed upon, made up as a Rule....Hence it is a Social Construct. Do you know what a Social Construct is? I know it exists. That's all I need to know to accept that it's real. Money is real and valuable....we give it reality and value...The Value and Reality is purely Social Thanks for acknowledging that I was correct. It has value and meaning only in the context of a society Again, thanks for acknowledging that it has value. The Article did not prove any such thing..... Your ability to read and understand is now being drawn into question. You can "question" what you like. I can't control your ability to comprehend what you read or hear. I just present the information to you and let you do with it what you will. I've already justified myself and my assertion to any REASONABLE man.
frankster Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Yes....Albinos are a result of a genetic Mutations.. In Your theory what is the cause of the white race since it's not a mutation? They were "grafted" or "selectively bred" by constantly taking people who were originally dark skinned and constantly mating the lightest and lightest ones over several generations until a new person of White skin and blonde hair was produced. Your evidence of this engraftment??? How do you know that it was artificial selection and not Natural selection? 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: You do know we have white albinos....who are of white people and suffer the same mutations as blacks. Yes, I know. Which is one of the reasons I know that White folks AREN'T Albinos...lol. Environment diet and culture are the major contributing factors....consanguinity may also play a role. 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Both white and black people have melanin, the gene that controls for skin color.... Yes but our melanin is DIFFERENT than theirs. You're absolutely right! Black people have EUMELANIN which is Black/Brown...while Caucasians tend to have PHEOMELANIN which is Red/Yellow. Both Black and white peoples have Pheomelanin.... Detectable levels of pheomelanin are detected in human skin regardless of race, color, and skin type. However, eumelanin is always the major constituent of epidermal melanin, and the skin color appears to be determined by the quantity of melanin produced but not by the quality. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12950732/ 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Expose those vitamin D deficient Blacks to enough Sunshine and the Deficiency disappears.....Milk is dietary and we spoke of the role of diet in culture. Yes, I agree. But still...I've continued to prove my point that there ARE racial differences in the body that affects the health of different races. The differences are not due to race but history culture and environment. 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Socially Agreed upon, made up as a Rule....Hence it is a Social Construct. Do you know what a Social Construct is? I know it exists. That's all I need to know to accept that it's real. Yes real as the laws of a country or nation. 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Money is real and valuable....we give it reality and value...The Value and Reality is purely Social Thanks for acknowledging that I was correct. Real as in agreed upon - social construct...You are still incorrect and neither am I in accord with your thoughts on this matter whatsoever. It is either you cant or wont tried to understand what a social construct is.... 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: It has value and meaning only in the context of a society Again, thanks for acknowledging that it has value. I have always said it is a social construct and they do not exist in and of themselves....without society they no longer have reality, value or meaning. 56 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: The Article did not prove any such thing..... Your ability to read and understand is now being drawn into question. You can "question" what you like. I can't control your ability to comprehend what you read or hear. I just present the information to you and let you do with it what you will. I've already justified myself and my assertion to any REASONABLE man. No you have not....I consider myself a reasonable person and you have not justified your arguments. Here is another quote from your article The death rates diverged sharply after 1980, and this disparity has been persistent.1,2 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2200244?query=race_and_medicine You Know you are in error but you continue in this fruitless quest to prove the unprovable. ...to save face/ ego.
Pioneer1 Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 frankster Your evidence of this engraftment??? 2 pieces of evidence: 1. Black people are much older than White people on this planet So unless The SUPREME BEING didn't create them directly...then that means there's a good possibility that they came from us either directly or indirectly from other races who DID come from us. 2. In nature you can get the RECESSIVE from the DOMINANT....but you can't get the DOMINANT from the RECESSIVE. Genetically speaking, Black people with a higher melanin content, stronger bones, stronger hair....are more dominant that White people so if one of us came from the other, WE would have to be first. How do you know that it was artificial selection and not Natural selection? I don't know it. I simply BELIEVE it Environment diet and culture are the major contributing factors....consanguinity may also play a role. Contributing factors to what? Albanism?? Both Black and white peoples have Pheomelanin.... True. But we have a predominance of Eumelanin while they have a predominance of Pheomelanin. Kind of like BOTH men and women have estrogen and testosterone but men have high levels of testosterone and women have higher levels of estrogen. The differences are not due to race but history culture and environment. You mean the differences ARE due to race ALONG WITH history, culture, and environment. One reason doesn't exclude the others. But race IS definitely a factor. Yes real as the laws of a country or nation. Ok....and laws are REAL. If you don't believe it, ask anyone who's been locked up. Real as in agreed upon - social construct Real as in REAL bro...please don't do this, lol. ...You are still incorrect and neither am I in accord with your thoughts on this matter whatsoever. That's obvious. But whether you agree with them or not doesn't change their status as facts. It is either you cant or wont tried to understand what a social construct is.... My UNDERSTANDING of what a "social construct" is isn't the point. It's whether or not they are REAL and the fact that we're discussing it clearly indicates that they are INDEED part of REALITY. I have always said it is a social construct and they do not exist in and of themselves....without society they no longer have reality, value or meaning. Doesn't matter. They exists NOW....so they ARE a reality. If society disappeared....then we can have the conversation again as to whether "social constructs" are real or not. You Know you are in error but you continue in this fruitless quest to prove the unprovable. ...to save face/ ego. Lol...save face with "who"??? Us two....and the White folks monitoring the site....lol...are probably the only ones keeping up WITH this conversation so I have no reason to show off and show out....YET, lol. If I'm in "error" show me the error. I told you that science recognizes race and racial differences and I used a scientific journal to prove it. You read it but still continue to argue with me telling me that what it clearly says is NOT what it says....lol. "Some of the tallest buildings in the United States are in New York" "That's some bullshit....Boston got some tall buildings too!" "I know that but of the 10 tallest....atleast 5 of them are in New York" "Nigga you crazy! You LIVE in Boston....don't you see all of these sky scrapers?????"
frankster Posted September 19, 2022 Report Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: frankster Your evidence of this engraftment??? 2 pieces of evidence: 1. Black people are much older than White people on this planet So unless The SUPREME BEING didn't create them directly...then that means there's a good possibility that they came from us either directly or indirectly from other races who DID come from us Blacks were engrafted with who or what to make white peoples? We both agree that white people came from black people so yes black people are older...Yes they came from Africans directly....Natural selection. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: .2. In nature you can get the RECESSIVE from the DOMINANT....but you can't get the DOMINANT from the RECESSIVE. Genetically speaking, Black people with a higher melanin content, stronger bones, stronger hair....are more dominant that White people so if one of us came from the other, WE would have to be first. This does not prove two races....if anything it proves inheritance - It proves changes brought on by environment etc.. Environment and diet affects gene expression in turns of dominant and or recessive. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: How do you know that it was artificial selection and not Natural selection? I don't know it. I simply BELIEVE it True....you do not know You Believe.... All The evidence points to Natural Selection On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: Environment diet and culture are the major contributing factors....consanguinity may also play a role. Contributing factors to what? Albanism?? Yes The gene or genes that causes albinos do pass from parents to children and inbreeding increases the odds of them being express in a population of people. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: Both Black and white peoples have Pheomelanin.... True. But we have a predominance of Eumelanin while they have a predominance of Pheomelanin. Kind of like BOTH men and women have estrogen and testosterone but men have high levels of testosterone and women have higher levels of estrogen. No estrogen and testosterone is not dictated by diet but by X and Y chromosomes Whether you express Eumelanin or Pheomelanin....The dominance is caused by Environment and diet which I have already shown. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: The differences are not due to race but history culture and environment. You mean the differences ARE due to race ALONG WITH history, culture, and environment. One reason doesn't exclude the others. But race IS definitely a factor. We are all one Human Race...any difference you see are determined by History Culture Diet and Environment. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: Yes real as the laws of a country or nation. Ok....and laws are REAL. If you don't believe it, ask anyone who's been locked up. Two years ago people in NY were being locked up for possession of any amount of Marijuana....Today possession of certain amounts of Marijuana has been Legalized. Marijuana itself has not change and its effect on human beings are the same....a set of people agree to change laws of society as to how we treat its possession. Marijuana Possession outside of the purview of society has remain the same. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: Real as in agreed upon - social construct Real as in REAL bro...please don't do this, lol. Only real to Society. 2. ADJECTIVE If something is real to someone, they experience it as though it really exists or happens, even though it does not. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/real On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: ...You are still incorrect and neither am I in accord with your thoughts on this matter whatsoever. That's obvious. But whether you agree with them or not doesn't change their status as facts. It does change the status....Money is based on agreement.... Here is Money but its value less than its face value in society....and cannot be used to purchase or exchange in society - except in the game wherein we agree on its value. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: It is either you cant or wont tried to understand what a social construct is.... My UNDERSTANDING of what a "social construct" is isn't the point. It's whether or not they are REAL and the fact that we're discussing it clearly indicates that they are INDEED part of REALITY. It is the point....can you define a social construct ? On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: I have always said it is a social construct and they do not exist in and of themselves....without society they no longer have reality, value or meaning. Doesn't matter. They exists NOW....so they ARE a reality. If society disappeared....then we can have the conversation again as to whether "social constructs" are real or not. As society changes....the constructs that society is comprised of changes - hence marijuana possession in certain quantities are now legal to possess in some places. Money as we know it is also facing changes - bitcoins and credit cards. On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: You Know you are in error but you continue in this fruitless quest to prove the unprovable. ...to save face/ ego. Lol...save face with "who"??? Us two....and the White folks monitoring the site....lol...are probably the only ones keeping up WITH this conversation so I have no reason to show off and show out....YET, lol. We are our viewers On 9/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, Pioneer1 said: If I'm in "error" show me the error. I told you that science recognizes race and racial differences and I used a scientific journal to prove it. You read it but still continue to argue with me telling me that what it clearly says is NOT what it says....lol. "Some of the tallest buildings in the United States are in New York" "That's some bullshit....Boston got some tall buildings too!" "I know that but of the 10 tallest....atleast 5 of them are in New York" "Nigga you crazy! You LIVE in Boston....don't you see all of these sky scrapers?????" Buildings exist should society disappear they would still be there.
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