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There has been a war against Black Americans Families from the very beginning of the founding of the nation. The diabolic truth is that Black Lives have been devalued as and replaced with false concepts and notions.

 

The current debate of country pits Black women against Black babies. It’s the culmination of decades of White women grievances being injected into the Black woman psyche. Black women are the natural rivals of White women who have always looked down on them and as a threat.

 

Babies are not a mechanism to enslave Black women. Black babies are the future and legacy of Black people. We must stand up against frivolous abortion and reserve that procedure to cases of absolute emergencies where the death by medical complications could kill the mother.

 

Let’s restore sanity to the Black family starting with the Black Babies.

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47 minutes ago, daniellegfny said:

There has been a war against Black Americans Families from the very beginning of the founding of the nation. The diabolic truth is that Black Lives have been devalued as and replaced with false concepts and notions.

 

@daniellegfny So true. 

 

48 minutes ago, daniellegfny said:

Babies are not a mechanism to enslave Black women. Black babies are the future and legacy of Black people. We must stand up against frivolous abortion and reserve that procedure to cases of absolute emergencies where the death by medical complications could kill the mother.

 

I agree very much however, how can a baby thrive if the mother does not want to give birth and is then forced to do so?

I know of a Black American who told me that his mother told him that, although she submitted to the man in marriage, however she conceived him in an abusive situation and therefore did not want to have him. 

She then tried to give him away after birth but could not find any takers, so he lived a terrible neglected, abandoned and abusive life. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

There has been a war against Black Americans Families from the very beginning of the founding of the nation. The diabolic truth is that Black Lives have been devalued as and replaced with false concepts and notions.

 

The current debate of country pits Black women against Black babies. It’s the culmination of decades of White women grievances being injected into the Black woman psyche. Black women are the natural rivals of White women who have always looked down on them and as a threat.

 

Babies are not a mechanism to enslave Black women. Black babies are the future and legacy of Black people. We must stand up against frivolous abortion and reserve that procedure to cases of absolute emergencies where the death by medical complications could kill the mother.

 

Let’s restore sanity to the Black family starting with the Black Babies.

The way to do that is undo all the Reaganomics efforts which made it so much more difficult economically for young black women, and omg whites too and everyone else, to have a child and not be facing a life of poverty. In the demosocialist nations all of this is in place and the impetus to abort is lowered. Also, improve our nation's birth control access and education about it, and the rate of unwanted pregnancies will plummet.

 

At one point Hillary Clinton and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) were attempting to discuss how to reduce abortions without messing with Roe v. Wade. Naturally virtually no other Republicans would cooperate, and most Democrats still couldn't get past the simple politics of fighting to keep abortion unrestricted.

 

Both Parties would get what they want if they'd work to eliminate abortions by eradicating the root causes. OMG that's too much social science for the Republican mind, but it's valid. If a pregnant young woman had childcare available and affordable, decent transportation, generally an infrastructure which supports and enables her, as they have in the superior demosocialist nations, then we would have far fewer abortions.

 

I can't deny that white racists would love to see all black babies killed. Ironically most of them pretend to be "pro-life". But the solution of the problem of unwanted pregnancies is not to ban abortion, whether we're looking at black, white or "other" women. It is, as I said,

 

1) make contraception eminently available and knowledge about it common; and

 

2) create an economic environment which doesn't make the arrival of a child a socioeconomic life sentence for the woman.

 

Yeah, work on the families, too. If you think the problem of fathers not in the home with the children is a black thing, I'll take you on a tour of my home state of WV, and you can see all the "whites" in the precisely same situation.

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13 hours ago, Chevdove said:

how can a baby thrive if the mother does not want to give birth and is then forced to do so?

The way millions of orphans and adopted children have.

8 hours ago, Michel Montvert said:

Reaganomics efforts which made it so much more difficult economically for young black women, and omg whites

You invoke Reagan when the issue isn’t a political one.

8 hours ago, Michel Montvert said:

take you on a tour of my home state of WV, and you can see all the "whites" in the precisely same situation

We aren’t talking about White people. The purpose of this post was to focus on our mindset and what we were willing to tolerate. This is a Black issue that Black people have to come to terms with. Many Black fathers have driven Black women to have abortion because of their pride.

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15 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

There has been a war against Black Americans Families from the very beginning of the founding of the nation. The diabolic truth is that Black Lives have been devalued as and replaced with false concepts and notions.

True

 

15 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

 

The current debate of country pits Black women against Black babies. It’s the culmination of decades of White women grievances being injected into the Black woman psyche. Black women are the natural rivals of White women who have always looked down on them and as a threat.

How does the current debate pit black women against black babies?

What grievances are white women injecting into black women psyche's?

Why are Black women the natural rivals of white women? 

 

15 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

 

Babies are not a mechanism to enslave Black women. Black babies are the future and legacy of Black people. We must stand up against frivolous abortion and reserve that procedure to cases of absolute emergencies where the death by medical complications could kill the mother.

 

Let’s restore sanity to the Black family starting with the Black Babies.

Under what circumstances do you Consider an abortion frivolous?

 

1 hour ago, daniellegfny said:

We aren’t talking about White people. The purpose of this post was to focus on our mindset and what we were willing to tolerate. This is a Black issue that Black people have to come to terms with. Many Black fathers have driven Black women to have abortion because of their pride.

What are we tolerating, that we need to come to terms with?

How have Black Fathers driven Black Women to have abortions?

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IMO, there's no baby genocide among Black folks.

 

In fact, many Black women keep babies they cannot afford fo raise financially. There's a connection to poverty as well. 

 

Black women do not routinely use abortion as a form of birth control. 😎

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4 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

We aren’t talking about White people. The purpose of this post was to focus on our mindset and what we were willing to tolerate. This is a Black issue that Black people have to come to terms with. Many Black fathers have driven Black women to have abortion because of their pride.

 

@daniellegfny Yes, due to our origins here in America, I absolutely agree in that Black people have a terrible and unique situation pertaining to this subject. 

And I agree to, with this statement very much 

 

"Many Black fathers have driven Black women to have abortion because of their pride."

 

But also, many Black fathers hit and run too, leaving the Black woman alone to deal with her babies.

 

But this statement, I have much frustration:

 

 

4 hours ago, daniellegfny said:
17 hours ago, Chevdove said:

how can a baby thrive if the mother does not want to give birth and is then forced to do so?

The way millions of orphans and adopted children have.

 

Black foster children are not adopted that often and grow up in group homes of which, imo does not help to build healthy black individuals that even know how to build a healthy family environment. How can they, if they haven't been structured in one themselves.

 

So orphaned Black children only perpetuate the problem, as you stated, of coming from broken family structure. 

In the story I gave, the father would not allow the mother to give the child up as well, as you also said, due to pride. So the woman was stuck and the poor child was stuck.

 

Thank you for posting this topic. It is a tough subject, but one that all Americans should deal with if we want to repair past mistakes. 

 

 

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On 8/27/2022 at 4:02 AM, daniellegfny said:

There has been a war against Black Americans Families from the very beginning of the founding of the nation. The diabolic truth is that Black Lives have been devalued as and replaced with false concepts and notions.

 

The current debate of country pits Black women against Black babies. It’s the culmination of decades of White women grievances being injected into the Black woman psyche. Black women are the natural rivals of White women who have always looked down on them and as a threat.

 

Babies are not a mechanism to enslave Black women. Black babies are the future and legacy of Black people. We must stand up against frivolous abortion and reserve that procedure to cases of absolute emergencies where the death by medical complications could kill the mother.

 

Let’s restore sanity to the Black family starting with the Black Babies.


I agree that there has been a war (by the racists....not this nation) against Black families since the founding of this nation.
Btw...some of the right-wing racists that YOU support politically are on the front lines of this war.

I also agree with you that for decades White women have craftily influenced the minds of many AfroAmerican woman to hate men, not trust men, seek a more independent and anti-family life, and even experiment with homosexuality in many cases.....all in a plot and plan to destabilize and destroy the Black family.

However......
I don't think abortion is the main culprit here.
As ProfD said, abortion isn't the main form of birth control among Black women.
Most AfroAmericans HAVE NO form of birth control that they use on a regular basis outside of condoms.....if they remember to use them.
Most of our people tend to be VERY irresponsible when it comes to sexual activity and even bringing children into this world.

A lot of people may not like what I'm about to say but I'd dare say a lot of children in the Black community SHOULD have been aborted instead of being brought into this world.
I realize that The SUPREME BEING has the Ultimate Decision on who is born and who dies, however from a secular point of view so many of our people are screwed up mentally and physically that they probably would have been better off not being born.
Religion and weird beliefs about life and abortion influences the mother to make irresponsible decisions about their pregnancies.
 

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Coggins

If you want to know the truth, the REAL "Black baby genocide" isn't coming from  abortion.
It's coming from these thugs and hoodlums running around in the ghetto shooting children by accident and now on purpose.

In the last couple years, so many Black children have been shot and killed on the streets it's unbelievable.

Children have been killed by urban violence for decades, but since 2020 it's been unprecedented!

Just 10 or 15 years ago if a child was shot and killed in the Black community on purpose it would make NATIONAL headlines.
It would only happen nation wide every few months.
I'm talking about if it happened on PURPOSE.
Now it's happening in a lot of major cities on a WEEKLY basis.

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23 hours ago, frankster said:

How does the current debate pit black women against black babies?

What grievances are white women injecting into black women psyche's?

Why are Black women the natural rivals of white women?

Look at the Woman’s suffrage struggle and you will find the answers. Black women poisoned White women when their daughters became their husbands concubines. White women were constantly challenged by Black women taking their husbands’ affections and attention away.

 

White women are trying to enroll Black women into a battle which has nothing to do with the dynamics of the Black family. It’s based on the Jealousy of Black male achievement.

 

During slavery Black Women would try to abort their babies to save their children from the harsh reality of slavery. We are no longer existing in the era of government sanctioned chattel slavery. Look to the conditions and relationships of Black Mothers to be with their pre born children. They were viewed as gifts. The current debate cast children as the chain that enslaves Black women.

 

 I hope I answered your question.

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Children have been killed by urban violence for decades, but since 2020 it's been unprecedented!

It’s not more than those which were killed by abortion. Our family and communities must come together or descend into barbarism and savagery.

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Btw...some of the right-wing racists that YOU support politically are on the front lines of this war.

When it comes to race I refuse to play my white man is better than yours. That’s the biggest problem right now. They are only tools to be used and rivals to conquer.

20 hours ago, Chevdove said:

But also, many Black fathers hit and run too, leaving the Black woman alone to deal with her babies.

That’s a mutual action which is caused by our refusal to realistically deal with sex and the results of sex. There’s a lot of deconstruction of false beliefs that must be dealt with. We need to create support systems for mothers or fathers who wind up as single parents.

20 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Thank you for posting this topic. It is a tough subject, but one that all Americans should deal with if we want to repair past mistakes. 

Yes 🙌🏾 it is a tough issue. But we are strong enough to meet any challenges.

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12 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

Look at the Woman’s suffrage struggle and you will find the answers. Black women poisoned White women when their daughters became their husbands concubines. White women were constantly challenged by Black women taking their husbands’ affections and attention away.

I have..looked at the suffragettes and like most organizations of the time they were by default Racist....nevertheless they were doing Good Work.

Black women poisoning white women.....source of this info?

 

 

12 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

 

White women are trying to enroll Black women into a battle which has nothing to do with the dynamics of the Black family. It’s based on the Jealousy of Black male achievement.

What battle? which has nothing to do with the black family?!?

 

 

 

12 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

 

During slavery Black Women would try to abort their babies to save their children from the harsh reality of slavery. We are no longer existing in the era of government sanctioned chattel slavery. Look to the conditions and relationships of Black Mothers to be with their pre born children. They were viewed as gifts. The current debate cast children as the chain that enslaves Black women.

 

 I hope I answered your question.

The  "current debate" cast children as the chains that enslave their Black Mothers.....and you solve that by forcing child birth on black mothers??

 

12 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

It’s not more than those which were killed by abortion. Our family and communities must come together or descend into barbarism and savagery.

When it comes to race I refuse to play my white man is better than yours. That’s the biggest problem right now. They are only tools to be used and rivals to conquer.

That’s a mutual action which is caused by our refusal to realistically deal with sex and the results of sex. There’s a lot of deconstruction of false beliefs that must be dealt with. We need to create support systems for mothers or fathers who wind up as single parents.

Yes 🙌🏾 it is a tough issue. But we are strong enough to meet any challenges.

True enough.

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13 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

That’s a mutual action which is caused by our refusal to realistically deal with sex and the results of sex. There’s a lot of deconstruction of false beliefs that must be dealt with. We need to create support systems for mothers or fathers who wind up as single parents.

 

Yes, I absolutely agree. Well said.

 

 

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15 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

We need to create support systems for mothers or fathers who wind up as single parents.

It already exists...here in America we call it welfare.

 

While welfare provides for basic needs, it does not replace or repair a broken home.😎

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20 hours ago, ProfD said:

It already exists...here in America we call it welfare.

 

While welfare provides for basic needs, it does not replace or repair a broken home.😎

Welfare in the USA is poverty maintenance. It does not provide what a person needs to get a job while also raising a child. If you look at how things are in the superior demosocialist nations (Germany, Japan, Israel, France, UK, Canada, Australia, Singapore, etc.) you can see how society can be structured so that having a child isn't a life sentence of poverty.

On 8/28/2022 at 10:16 PM, daniellegfny said:
On 8/28/2022 at 10:16 PM, daniellegfny said:

 

When it comes to race I refuse to play my white man is better than yours.

 

That's a facile response, simply dismiss politics as a bunch of white men who are alien to the issue. But they are not. You dodged the point, which is that your GOP allies are RACIST to the core, fighting hard to keep black people down, and USING you as a pawn. You and Herschel. Unlike him, you can complete proper sentences, at least.

 

To the point, I say unequivocally, DEMOCRATIC white men are FAR superior to REPUBLIQAN white men, who are fascist traitors, misogynists and racists.

 

And so, "your" white men are festering scum. Check yourself.

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Coggins

 

 

When it comes to race I refuse to play my white man is better than yours. That’s the biggest problem right now. They are only tools to be used and rivals to conquer.

 

The problem isn't a matter of "my White man" is better than "your White man".
The problem is you are following A White man and I'm not following ANY White men because I don't trust them like you.

 

You trust the Republican party and follow Trump.
I don't trust ANY of them because both parties have a long and documented history of deception and mistreatment of AfroAmericans.

 

 


But we are strong enough to meet any challenges.

 

Our people are strong enough, but are we smart enough???

Black folks are WORLD RENOWN for our strength, but when it comes to smarts....lol.....well.

 

 

 

 

 

Michel Montvert

 

 

Welfare in the USA is poverty maintenance. It does not provide what a person needs to get a job while also raising a child. 

 

PREACH!!!!

 

Just like the Department of "Corrections" rarely corrects inmates and isn't designed to do so, welfare isn't designed to get people out of poverty but keep them in it by giving them barely enough to live and no skills and opportunities to get out of poverty.

 

Franklin Delano Roosevelt actually DID do this back in the 30s and 40s and the government actually did it's job and raised millions out of poverty with programs that gave people good jobs with benefits that they KEPT and retired from.

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On 8/30/2022 at 11:28 AM, Michel Montvert said:

Welfare in the USA is poverty maintenance. It does not provide what a person needs to get a job while also raising a child.

When welfare was established back in the 1930s, it wasn't intended for poverty maintenance.

 

Initially, welfare provided assistance to widows and working class folks to ease the burden of providing for their families.

 

Welfare didn't become a way of life or poverty maintenance until the 1960s. Another by-product of that watershed time period. 

 

Fewer job training programs and shipping jobs overseas insured that under-educated and unskilled people would have a harder time finding work. This reality also insures despair, poverty, crime and addiction. A powder keg of negative forces.

 

There's a reason a college education is so expensive and folks are pushing back against free community colleges and trade/technical schools.

 

Colleges and universities have become big business. They pay tenured  professors a hefty salary. They pay football coaches millions of dollars. 

 

The American job market caters to certain people. There's a finite number of slots.

 

Meanwhile, welfare has gone from a hand up to someone working for a better life to an ankle weight especially for those who either don't want more and/or who don't feel like doing better. 😎

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10 hours ago, ProfD said:

When welfare was established back in the 1930s, it wasn't intended for poverty maintenance.

 

Initially, welfare provided assistance to widows and working class folks to ease the burden of providing for their families.

 

Welfare didn't become a way of life or poverty maintenance until the 1960s. Another by-product of that watershed time period. 

 

Fewer job training programs and shipping jobs overseas insured that under-educated and unskilled people would have a harder time finding work. This reality also insures despair, poverty, crime and addiction. A powder keg of negative forces.

 

There's a reason a college education is so expensive and folks are pushing back against free community colleges and trade/technical schools.

 

Colleges and universities have become big business. They pay tenured  professors a hefty salary. They pay football coaches millions of dollars. 

 

The American job market caters to certain people. There's a finite number of slots.

 

Meanwhile, welfare has gone from a hand up to someone working for a better life to an ankle weight especially for those who either don't want more and/or who don't feel like doing better. 😎

Some have said that welfare in the 30s was designed to help the victims of the very bad depression which was occurring, and that the intention was to help WHITE people. Then in the 60s the Johnson Administration made it far more easy to get welfare, and at some level they decided it was better to have all those poor folks on the dole than to see that they had decent education and jobs. Reagan quickly screwed up the cost of college to get all those pesky minorities and poor whites out of there.

 

An "ankle weight". Oh you got that 100% right!

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Actually the Welfare system the way it's designed today not only encourages people to stay in poverty but it encourages people to lie and become criminals.

Too many rules are attached to just BASIC forms of welfare like Section 8.

They make it so hard for so many people to get in these programs that too often they end up lying on their forms just to get some basic assistance, and THEN they want to prosecute them for it and accuse them of fraud.

The more laws you have, the more criminals you make.

Many people won't agree with this, but in my opinion they should have kept the PROJECTS.
Instead of tearing them down, they should have built more and MAINTAINED them and provided SECURITY in them.

 

 

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So now they call the projects crime infested towers of filth and poverty and tear them down.....so NOW where do the people who were living in them are supposed to go?
On the streets and in prisons???
Because that's where many of them when after the projects were torn down.
Simply tearing down projects didn't get rid of poverty and it actually helped increase the homeless problem manifold.

 



 

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On 8/27/2022 at 9:20 PM, daniellegfny said:

 

You invoke Reagan when the issue isn’t a political one.

 

It is eminently political. Politics created the situation where having a black father in the home was negatively sanctioned. Politics created the crappy economic environment for the working class---Reaganomics. That same murdering devil Reagan encouraged white racists to come back into the mainstream, the results of which we're reaping now.

 

All those white supremacist terrorist types are voting just as you do... that is what YOU need to examine.

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On 9/2/2022 at 8:26 PM, daniellegfny said:

Welfare is the breeding ground for crime. The support systems I am talking about would focus on the care of unwanted babies. 

Then you would support demosocialist policies as those in the other developed nations. where there IS childcare available, job security, where having a baby doesn't condemn you to poverty. Canada, France, Germany, UK, Australia, Israel, etc.... all superior nations to the USA, which steadily declines as long as Republicans and sycophant Republican-Lite Democrats are in power.

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IMO, welfare doesn't encourage people to stay in poverty. It's a convenience that is attractive to folks who are naturally insolent.

 

I know many people who grew up on welfare and in poverty and successfully got out of it. Takes a strong will and desire to overcome the obstacles. 

 

While I can agree that the projects should not have been torn down, I also understand the thought process behind it and expanding Section 8 to desegregate the poor.

 

There's ZERO real reason for homelessness in America. No shortage of housing inventory. 

 

Poverty maintenance and criminalizing folks is an unfortunate by-product of hyper-capitalism. Greed forces people to make money by any means necessary. 😎

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Having lived around this nation, I can say without a shadow of doubt that Section 8 hasn't help eliminate poverty but just DISPERSED it around so that the problems that come with poverty has expanded beyond certain inner city districts to more formerly stable areas.

Instead of the government doing it's job by building housing directly to shelter the poor.....
Section 8 was really a "get rich" scheme hatched to take government money and put it in the hands of greedy slum lords.
 

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