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Azacotogan What you don't seem to see is that if I have to "provide evidence" of African concepts to an "African" then it is already a lost proposition. ....and most of our people are lost. The fact that most Africans in the West are "lost" to the knowledge of not only their own culture and spirituality but indeed THEMSELVES should be enough reason to readily provide valuable knowledge to any African who sincerely enquires. I am an African, not black, as you called yourself. There's HUGE difference from a psychological perspective. You're new to this site. If you stick around a while you'll realize that I actually DO call myself an African. I just use the term "Black" in conversation with many people to avoid confusion because despite it being an innaccurate term, it is the most commonly understood term for our people in English speaking society. But it's clear now you're not going to get it. Maybe not now....... I used karma as a reference because most have a general idea of it but not because the two are parallel Kind of like how I use the terms "African" and "Black". Where are you getting information from? There is no African culture that I know of that has this stance on these things. It certainly isn't like that in Vodun. You are just speculating. There is so much more to these things in Vodun but you write as though you have it all figured out. Smh. But you are focusing on karma. The article is about salawa Exactly what part of my statement that you are commenting on is false or inaccurate? You think that I have to share certain experiences I've had with you as strong evidence that what I'm saying is correct? No, you don't "have" to. But it would be nice. You come on here and promote your spiritual concepts yet refuse to share key aspects of the spiritual abilities you should be receiving from it. Anybody who is able bodied can just "go through the motions" but how do we KNOW that what we practice is truly spiritually transforming if it doesn't bring you face to face with THE spiritual kingdom? Are you serious? Yes, show me the money. That's your criteria? Part of it. That could easily be made up. I could tell you anything and you would have no way of truly knowing if what I'm telling you is the truth. However I've dealt with spirituality and spiritual people enough to recognize whether or not your experiences share the same patterns with those who ARE legitimate.....which would lend more credibility to your claims. 　 Not clear what you're referring to but in general if an African refers to themselves as any kind of american then caucasians have succeeded in conquering their Ori African is a race, American is a nationality....the two can easily be reconciled.

Your question also contained assumption which I don't really do. But as a question I answer it with a resounding no. Before I proceed, I will say that OTHER people have a right to call themselves what they want. I prefer it that way because it let's me in on how they think. Thus, I know full well what I'm dealing with. Once again, it was rather unusual to hear someone refer to themselves as Afro American. Now, I hear comments like the one you made all the time. Again, OTHER people have the right to identify with what they want or say they don't have an identity. But "we" cannot include all of us because there are MANY of us now who know exactly where we come from to the tee if you will. But most black Americans or afro Americans or African Americans either are not going to make the effort often because they don't care to. I know many people who can tell you EXACTLY who they are. You used the word akata. I have gotten into it with Yoruba people about this word. I let them know, in YORUBA, that they are probably descendants of the AKATA that sold our ancestors into captivity. But truth of the matter is they use that term to refer to BLACK AMERICANS not primarily because of the identity thing but mostly because of thr lack of interest in true and authentic Afrikan culture by said group. I originally found this out while attending an event many years ago in Atl. The Yoruba were all in the living room and akata was brought up. As usual, I went to check them. As I was checking them I thought to myself "but they just said what they said in front of me knowing full well I could overstand them". The chief went on to tell me it was because they never viewed ME as an akata. I asked why. Two men stated in their own terms that it was because I had come back to reclaim my culture as a birthright. It was because I did not beg the Yoruba or worship them like black Americans tend to. It was that I demanded what was mine among some other things that were said. Of course I still checked them and they never did that in front of me again. You make a point. You stated our true identity probably cannot be expressed in English. What do you suggest? And for clarity, when WE use the terms African American and black American it is by intentional design. We use it to reference a mentality moreso than an identity.

Confrontational? That's also interesting. It reminds me we are in an age whereas there is no fire. You have plenty of people who take things personally and ASSUME something is confrontational just because they may detect something in A question or comment that may challenge their beliefs intentional or not. Anyway, I was just curious because I don't think I've heard the term AfroAmerican in a very, very long time. In fact, it probably was from watching old footage from the 60s or something like that. Didn't know people still used that term. And I guess I've always wondered how Afro was taken from Afrikan. Thanks for answering though. It's good to know what's out here at the least.

Greetings to All. We look forward to seeing more interesting posts like this. Thanks for providing a forum for our people.

True Dat. You're on a roll my Brother! I think even Cynique would be proud 🙂

Don't forget Colin Ferguson....who was inspired to catch the Long Island train. https://www.thoughtco.com/colin-ferguson-long-island-railroad-massacre-972712 Dr. Khalid Muhammad called Colin Ferguson a modern day Nat Turner. Similar to Nat who grew up being somewhat priviledged to a better education and surroundings than a lot of other slaves, Colin was from Jamaica and grew up somewhat wealthy and more priviledged than the average African in either Jamaica or the United States. There's something about a member OF an oppressed group who grows up with wealth or more priviledges than others in that group that seems to inspire the biggest revolutionaries. My reconing is that when you grow up priviledged and believing that you have the freedom and power and comfort to enjoy life and then become an adult and are slapped in the face with raw oppression and humiliation.....it doesn't sit as well with you as it does with those who grow up in poverty and learn to humbly accept it. You either commit suicide out of despair or start KILLING those you feel are causing your discomfort and problems. Perhaps one of the main reasons so many AfroAmericans are in the condition they are in in this society is because they have been so accustomed to poverty and being on the low end of society that it no longer becomes "intolerable" to them to the point they would rather die (either at their own hands or while attempting to take out their oppressors) than continue in that miserable condition.

This song and Baez's sound reminds me of Sheryl Crow, who I really like. I'll listen to more of Joan Baez based on your recommendation. There were a lot of folksy ladies like this in the early 1990s along with Sheryl Crow. The 10,000 Maniacs (Natalie Merchant) are also high on my early 90s favorites. Truth be told, one of my first girlfriends when I was very young was a white chick who played the violin. So 10,000 Maniacs kind of reminds me of that! But I've always loved the sound of violins and other string instruments (cello, viola, etc.). Nile Rodgers in the late 1970s used them all to perfection in his music, and it's always cute white chicks playing those violins and violas! Again there will never be another 70s or 80s. The talent to compose and perform the music, the love, the respect between black and white...all that cannot exist today...sadly. We tried so hard in the USA to fix racism in the 70s and 80s. The powers-that-be just didn't want that to happen. In sum...

Have you previously shared info about Ganlodo here @Azacotogan? If not post a link.

@TroyIndeed. For many of our people yes that conquering is very much a reality. The facts you outlined are partially why we do what we do at Ganlodo. It's part of our mission. So I'll continue to be on here and other platforms showing our people it's ok to embrace your own ancestral culture. It's ok to reclaim our birthright and fix whatever issues may exist in the culture instead of ignoring them.

I want to thank everyone who took advantage of the Kindle give-away last Tuesday. See you on the other side, and GOOD READING! David doc Robertson www.daviddoc.com