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Troy You simply cannot look at someone and tell they are Hispanic — any more than you could tell where they were born. I agree. Now tell that to the average police officer who will uses that as a racial description. This is nonsensical. Race is not based on science! It's just as scientifically based as sex, however you don't want to accept it regardless as to the amount of evidence and even proof provided for you. But I do think in the final analysis we’d be better off not keeping track of this so-called race… As long as racism exists...we should. How else can you track racism and racial discrimination? If you can give me a counter argument, on why you think we need to keep track of people’s skin color and how that has served us, I’m all eyes. ((Pioneer1 raises his hand)) Oooooh....oooooh....I CAN!! Let ME answer it!!! .....lol. Suppose we go with your argument that race doesn't exist. If race doesn't exist...then that would mean RACISM doesn't exist either. So if YOU'RE classified as "Black" and are mistreated and denied employment by someone classified as "White", BECAUSE of your skin color....you wouldn't have any grounds to claim racism or racial discrimination because according to YOU it doesn't exist. In places like Cuba and a lot of other Socialist/Communist Latin American nations...racism is rampant but not documented. Why? Because in Socialist/Communist ideology...racial distinctions don't exist, therefor RACISM doesn't exist. So a lot of Black and Brown people are STILL discriminated against but suffer in silence because they don't know how to articulate what they're going through since there's no category for it. No matter what YOU choose to believe...White folks KNOW who they are and KNOW you aren't one of them. They will CONTINUE to mistreat you because of your "race" "skin tone" or whatever you choose to call it whether YOU understand or acknowledge that's the reason they're doing it or not. So if you don't want to accept that racial differences exist....that's STILL not going to stop White folks from being racist and practicing racism. All that will do is just cause more confusion among people of color who will wander around looking stupid and clueless as to why they are in the conditions they are in without the slightest clue that racism may be the reason. ...because racism doesn't exist. ...because race doesn't exist. So it must be because they have bad breath that they are being targeted by the police, over incarcerated, denied jobs, and segregated to certain barrios. richardmurray yes your point is clear now Is that a good or bad thing????