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Congrats to Black contestants in Miss America - January 14th 2025 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11420-the-miss-usa-pageant-the-surprising-number-of-black-contestants-2024/#findComment-71146 THE ORIGINAL POST STARTED BY CHEVDOVE @Chevdove https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11420-the-miss-usa-pageant-the-surprising-number-of-black-contestants-2024/#findComment-71123 IF YOU DONT WANT TO CLICK THE COMMENT ABOVE OR GO TO THE ORIGINAL POST ... the following is the most well known black only female pageant in the usa https://www.missblackamerica.com/ the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Black_America what it needs is more money. This event has been going on for 55 years in a row. You can't complain about regular black folks making it happen, it was regular black folks who did. It wasn't black thespians or singers. It started in 1968 and not by diana ross or aretha franklin or cicely tyson. Year Miss Black America Hometown and/or home state 1968 Saundra Williams Pennsylvania 1969 Gloria O. Smith New York 1970 Stephanie Clark DC 1971 Joyce Warner Florida 1972 Linda Barney New Jersey 1973 Arniece Russell New York 1974 Von Gretchen Shepard Los Angeles, California 1975 Donzeila Johnson Pennsylvania 1976 Twanna Kilgore Washington, D.C. 1977 Claire Ford Memphis, Tennessee 1978 Lydia Jackson Willingboro, New Jersey 1979 Varetta Shankle Mississippi 1980 Sharon Wright Chicago, Illinois 1981 Pamela Jenks Boston, Massachusetts 1982 Susan Wells Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1983 Sonya Robinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1984 Lydia S.Garrett Columbia, South Carolina 1985 Amina Fakir Detroit, Michigan 1986 Rachel Oliver Burlington, North Carolina 1987 Leila McBride Denver, Colorado 1988 Regina Wallace Florida 1989 Paula Gwynn Washington DC 1990 Rosie Jones Bridgeport, Connecticut 1991 Sharmell Sullivan Gary, Indiana 1992 Marilyn DeShields Virginia, Richmond 1994 Pilar Fort Detroit, Michigan 1995 Karen D. Wallace Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 1996 Basheerah Ahmad Choctaw, Oklahoma 2010 Ashley Anglin-Teen DC Metropolitan 2010 Kamilla Collier-Mullin, Adult DC Metropolitan 2010 Natasha Ashby - Teen Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 2010 Donielle Turner, Adult Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 2014 Alexandra Morton, Adult Baltimore, Maryland 2015 Jelisa Barringer, Adult Ohio 2016 Nicole Lynette Hibbert, Adult Delaware 2017 Brittany Lewis, Adult District of Columbia 2018 Ryann Richardson, Adult Brooklyn, New York 2022 Gabrielle Wilson, Adult Los Angeles, California 2023 Ashley Myatt, Adult Detroit, Michigan 2023 Elizabeth Dicker, Senior Newark, New Jersey 01/15/2026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12290-have-you-ever-heard-of-miss-black-america /#findComment-79347 For more information please view and read the following https://www.missblackamerica.com/ from 1968, here are some recent winners If you know any black women, please share this with them, please if you have questions you can contact them? https://www.missblackamerica.com/contact if you want to help https://www.missblackamerica.com/donations Troy they have an author's expos, I don't have the money but I imagine you do. https://www.missblackamerica.com/author-s-expo-page pdf info https://a60cd4c2-9ac1-4f86-909b-8059577f3c6a.filesusr.com/ugd/5fe1f0_8f6b3a2fa6bd47dfb5359bf756393475.pdf Sponsorship form https://www.missblackamerica.com/sop-delegate-sponsorship Are you the next Miss Black America? Registration Now Open- Click The Following https://www.missblackamerica.com/pageant-registry Little Miss Black America (7-12) Miss Black America Teen (13-16) Miss Black America (17-29) Ms. Black America (29-54) Senior Miss Black America (55 and Over). All Age Groups, All Ages, Register Today Queens from seven (7) years old and over. REGISTRATION DETAILS- no excuse for black dos women to enter Pageant Registration All Across the World We Are Beautiful! You can be a Contestant in the next MBA Pageant TV Special! Are you between the age of 17-29? Or, are you a Miss Black America Teen between the ages of 13 -16? A Little Miss Black America between the ages of 7-12? Or a Senior Miss Black America who is 55+? Complete the form at the link below https://www.missblackamerica.com/pageant-registry *Adults 17-29 Must be a High School Graduate or its Equivalent at the time of the National Pageant, MBA Teens must be Middle or High School students* Miss Black America Pageant Positivity Cruise - February 14th, through February 22nd, 2026 1/15/2026 citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12290-have-you-ever-heard-of-miss-black-america /#findComment-79364 comment Posted just now @Pioneer1 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Not to take this thread in another direction but............ From the photos i have seen every winner of the Miss Black America pageant has been a black woman of medium to dark brown skin. Now I haven't seen photos of every winner. I haven't seen photos of every contestant. But the direction you have taken this post about uplifting a black owned beauty pageant has many questions, you didn't provide answers for when you shifted directions. 1. How do you define actual Black ? You mentioned "actual Black" but don't give a clear definition of how can be determined actual Black. Moreover why should the operators of Miss Black America adhere to such a definition? For example, if a woman with with two parents from india born in NYC with skin asians will call very dark, which is equivalent to what people in the USA call black, which is common among many Indian people, wants to run for Miss Black America, does she fit what you mean by Black? From a phenotypical perspective, said example woman is Black. Here are three images of kalo or black , indian females, older woman, young woman, child. All three are black. I don't know if habshi, which is the equivalent to Descended of Enslaved. Cause some ancestral indian people are black. Like some ancestral statian people, native americans, are black. Native Americans from southern tribes, the caribbean, are phenotypically black and not african. So I know you know your thoughts and definitions but you have to display them. If for no other reason it makes the multilog easier, unless you want to argue. 2. How do you define not-black or mixed? You mentioned " non-Black and mixed people" but don't give a clear definition to either term. Is mixed by phenotype, skin color ? is mixed by phenotype of ancestors? If mixed is by phenotype of ancestors, is it a one drop rule or is it a just immediate parents? For example, this is Fredi Washington. Who played the Peola character in the earliest film version of "immitation of life". She called herself black. She rejected hollywoods desire to have her lie about her background and claim she is white. And lived most of her life as a maid/nurse in Harlem. She definitely looked mixed. I call people like her yella. She is definitely more yella than Beyonce or Hally Berry or Dorothy Dandridge. And arguably even more yella than Hailee Steinfeld which says a lot. But she is black to me. From your definition she is mixed, so she couldn't apply for Miss Black America, correct? 3. Are you suggesting each candidate must be a citizen of the USA? I didn't read the rules of entry so I don't know how citizenship fits in Miss Black America. But a Black woman from Africa is Black so if she lives in the USA, why can't she run? Maybe she needs to be a USA citizen. I argue that is an even requirement, but is it mandatory? 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Too often you have non-Black and mixed people who "back door" their way into these events and end up being hoisted over and on top of the actual Black participants. This is nothing but a product of self-hatred. Looking at a woman who is obviously not Black or looks like she's almost White...and calling HER "the most beautiful" woman in the community. One of my biggest problems with Beyonce wasn't Beyonce herself...but how she was often glorified as a symbol of "Black" female beauty. Whenever the subject of comparing female celebrities by race, Whites and Latinos would promote the women they thought were the most beautiful but when it came to Black people.....a lot of bruthaz would promote women like Beyonce or Halle Berry back in the day. Women who obviously weren't Black. A lot of pro-FBA podcasters are promoting lightskinned women as "ideal" models for who an FBA is or what an FBA looks like. They're pushing Beyonce and Angel Reese. Expand You didn't mention Hailee Steinfield. But, the issues you mention here are not about the participants but the organizers of events. The organizers of events aren't being self haters, the organizers of events are doing what you did in your reply, not be concise or specific in definitions. Expecting everyone else to somehow know what they are thinking or how they define. That isn't functional. If you wanted to block out certain black women... or any women, all you have to do is make the rules clear. But if the rules don't block out certain women from running then why shouldn't they run. And as for the host of events or people whether black or non black, no matter their language or background, who have a positive bias towards the phenotype called white and a negative phenotype called blacks , black people who produce/pay for events need to know who they are hosting or if non blacks are producing, what can you expect from the host of a non black show but adulation to non black beauty even if the show is labeled for black beauty cause the owners are not black. When you organize an event it is up to you to be clear, concise on definitions, not the people entering. 01/16/2026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12290-have-you-ever-heard-of-miss-black-america /#findComment-79388 @aka Contrarian 12 hours ago, aka Contrarian said: If Halle Berry and Beyonce self identify as ,"black" because one of their parents is black, then that's good enough for me and millions of other people who accept their decision. They are women of color and the source of the color contained in their genes and DNA is a male negroid parent. ( just like Obama, our first black president. ) Nobody in America has been appointed as the arbitrator when it comes to declaring what constitutes blackness. Because there is no collective consciousness among negroid slave-descended Americans, there is no consensus on this issue and no individual can declare otherwise. well said. and all I can add is, this post was started with the purpose to uplift Miss Black America and by extension other Black Pagents, like Miss Black USA, thank you @Chevdove The purpose of this post was never to create or debate an absolute definition of who is a black woman in the usa. @Pioneer1 chose to segway from talking about miss black america, for which he had nothing to add, into talking about people in media, black or non black, whose job it is to get views/likes/attention and how they succeed by maintaining a consistency in narrative that suggest the most beautiful black women in the world happen to be black women with a certain phenotype, as close to a white european womans' as can be. the problem being, the black pagents seem to have found a way through their rules to elevate black women who do not fit the identity of women championed in the media pioneer is so concerned with. While the people in the media pioneer is so concerned with are working in a white owned space, the opposite of the black owned of the black beauty pageants. So... your correct, Contrarian, but the issue of this post is uplifting the black beauty pageant and it is unfortunate how little uplifting was achieved. It says something about black discourse online, we are too concerned with arguments online.