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NF Jr.s belief is not a revelation because 1) lesbianism has been around for a long time and 2) women have been signing up for military service for several decades.

There's already plenty active duty women who choose to become soldiers. Many of them are lesbians too. 

If AfroAmerican men cannot take care of AfroAmerican women financially and physically, they're going to find an alternative.

College degrees, professional careers, military service and lesbianism give AfroAmerican women another path.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Not sure what Lupita's position is, but that is one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood today.

Women like her and Lauryn Hill give us a hint of how beautiful our people were when in their original state.

Yes indeed.

Natural Black beauty is a welcomed sight as opposed to the eyelashes, hair weave, silicone and heavily made-up sistas running around out in these streets.

22 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I said dangerous as in the danger of misinterpretation. which happens to everyone online, no matter what anyone say.

The potential for misinterpretation is high on a public forum where we rely on written words.

We do not have the benefit of being able to hear or see body language. But, we get through it by clarification if necessary.

If anyone misunderstands anything I write, upon request, I'm willing to clarify my position within reason.

Otherwise, I think we fundamentally agree on Lupita's  position.

Interesting thread topic but I don't believe this particular forum has enough participation or bandwidth to discuss it.

Unfortunately, this movie will not move the needle of indifference AfroAmericans seem to have to our history nor complacency with the status quo.

Like Hidden Figures, Just Mercy, Black KkKlansman and other movies, Till will be more entertainment than education or motivation to insure history doesn't repeat itself. 

On 10/20/2022 at 9:23 PM, daniellegfny said:

Herschel is going to clean Warnock’s clock. 

I wonder if he's going to use Windex and a squeegee or a mop and bucket.

I'm not sure mumble-mouth Herschel is qualified to use any supplies.

20 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

your word choice is dangerous. Lupita wasn't suggesting what she is doing is better or worse than anybody else, she said she is using the ability to choose what she wants to do. She didn't suggest it will yield betterment, she wants it to but she didn't say her choices must.

My word choice isn't dangerous unless you read something different into it.

There's nothing inherently wrong with whatever Lupita *chooses* to do.

Sista Viola Davis doesn't need an apology either.  She's a smart woman who was well aware of any potential backlash when she took on the project. 

There is no smoke or fire here.

Reads like Lupita Nyong'o is managing her career in such a way to be 1) proud of her body of work and 2) successful.

Despite the variety of roles Denzel Washington has played, he's selective about what he does too.

10 minutes ago, Delano said:

I have the good fortune not to listen to good advice.

That absolutely works in many cases.

As a musician (creative), I can compose and play music for many hours to my contentment without an audience. 

Yet, when it's time to gig, there's a sense of satisfaction that comes with being able share and having people hear, dig, nod their heads and dance to the music too.  

5 minutes ago, Delano said:

Visionaries literally see the what others can not. So why listen to people who can't see you?

There is no reason except that human beings are social creatures who want to be seen and heard to some degree.

6 hours ago, Delano said:

Keep the focus on you and your work. Family and friends can be antagonistic if you don't play the role they have put on you. So communicate with people that affirm you and leave the critics where they are. Just ask yourself are the critics well adjusted and satisfied with their lives.

Truth. 

Revolutionaries, visionaries and creative types will encounter a lot of opposition because most people are wired to go along with the status quo. 

The average person cannot  see a vision that has not been validated or codified.  

Also, most critical people tend to be successful failures in their own right. 

In some weird way, being unaccomplished (critics) gives bitter people license to be the biggest haters.  Avoid them like a plague. 

As a revolutionary, visionary or creative person, keep pressing toward the mark of a higher calling. 

On 10/18/2022 at 5:54 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Are you sure that's a product of "white supremacy".....or Black stupidity?

Well bro, considering Kanye's latest foray into antisemitism and questioning the death of George Floyd, there's some Black stupidity that reinforces white supremacy. It's not a mental problem with that dude.

Well, they debated last Friday. 

No surprise that Warnock was the most articulate. But, typical Democrat, he didn't go hard in the paint on issues that could have buried his opponent. 

Meanwhile, mumble-mouth Herschel Walker played the "I'm just a country boy" card to excuse his ignorance.  Someone prepped him relatively well. But, he pulled out a honorary badge claiming he was down with law enforcement. Props are prohibited.

More than likely, the debate won't lead  voters to change course.

Still, it's a d8mn shame that in 2022 mumble-mouth is one of their choices and folks are riding with him.

I'd be slightly curious to know how many AfroAmericans voted for those racists. 

Then, it took for someone else to encourage them to resign.

If this thing hadn't blown up, they'd still be sitting in meetings and talking sh8t about the people they swore to serve. 

Bittersweet that yesterday our sista Brittney Griner spent her 32nd birthday in a Russian prison.

I still do not believe Brittney will be over there this time next year.

The pony express is on the way. Hang in there sista. 

40 minutes ago, Mel Hopkins said:

I'm not familiar with this characterization of their relationship”  Dr. Welsing was an actual medical doctor in the field of psychiatry.  Someone with her background would be in the position to update his work to make it relevant in the 80s and 2000s .  I can see her as  maybe a “Student”, in the sense of life-long learning. However, their affiliation was most likely a benefit to both.  

Correct.  Dr. Frances Cress Welsing was educated as mentioned above.  She was a "student" of Neely Fuller Jr.'s philosophy/concept. 

Dr. Frances Cress Welsing was deep too.  She said Black folks should not procreate until they are 30 years old and married. 

2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

Now it makes sense why he never got pushback from supremacists. It is as if Fuller is doing the work for them. "Bend over and just take it." doesn't seem much like a solution.

 

Aside: I read Fuller first published this book in the 50s, and it was updated several times by Dr. Cress Welsing)

Neely Fuller is definitely not advocating that folks acquiesce to racism white supremacy.  To the contrary.  His book provides a guide for how to understand and overcome it.

Dr. Frances Cress Welsing did not update the book.  She was a student of Neely Fuller's writing. They did speaking engagements together.  She did encourage him to update the book from the 1st edition. 

Just like Religion, not all medicine is good for all patients. Some folks will read Fuller's work and see him as an old man out of touch with reality.

But, as Fuller states, it's up to the individual to take what they want from book and apply it to how they choose to deal with the system of racism white supremacy.  

3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Wasn't the Watt's riot out there in California?

Yep. The Watts riot of 1965 was started by an altercation between police and a young black motorist. Read familiar. 

The Watts riot led to white flight. Once businesses relocate to the suburbs, it left cities like Compton to become overrun by  poor folks, gangs, drugs and murder. 

There is a correlation between riots of the 1960s and decline of black cities from the 1970s onward.

Drugs were thrown into cities with a Black majority to insure the people would destroy themselves.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I keep stressing the importance of INTELLIGENCE among us because many of the opportunities we had to improve and progress our community was squandered or thwarted by the silly behavior and antics of the LESS INTELLIGENT among us.

In addition to providing the less intelligent folks with coloring books and crayons, we'd  need to weed out the greedy folks too.

The lust for money creates sellouts who will become cancerous and destroy a movement as well. 

1 hour ago, Mel Hopkins said:

Fuller sounds like a philosopher.  Philosopher tend to think their way through deconstructing a system.  Unfortunately, if the ideology doesn’t suit those in power, it goes nowhere.

 By outside classification, Fuller would be considered a social scientist moreso than a philosopher. He would consider himself someone just wrote a book of concepts. Take or leave for what it's worth to the individual.

Social scientists and philosophers have put forth ideas and concepts that have built the various types of social systems and changes to them. 

Fuller also acknowledges the system of racism white supremacy is the most powerful on the planet.

6 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

What is Neely Fuller's agenda?

I don't know his agenda but he has written a book that outlines a compensatory counter-racist code for dealing with the system of racism white supremacy. 

@Pioneer1

The system of racism white supremacy makes white folks the most powerful collective on the planet.  

Black folks do not have such a tie that binds them. There is no system or network created by us for sustenance and security.

Cats like Marcus Garvey had the right ideas but at the time, AfroAmericans were not in a space to get down with it. They were struggling to realize their birthright. 

Post Civil Rights movement, a failure to build and connect strategic alliances among Black folks could be attributed to laziness and indifference.

Affirmative action and other initiatives were the opiates that put AfroAmericans on a collision course with complacency within the system of white supremacy. 

Flashes of individual and collective power among AfroAmericans have not been enough to motivate us into fully developing and sustaining it.

Pitting groups of people against themselves and others and keeping them divided is a cornerstone of social engineering. 

The funny or sad part of it depending on one's view is that technology has made it easier to unite.

Yet, the system of white supremacy is so powerful that Blacks folks won't use the tools at our disposal (technology, money, knowledge and information) to build those strategic alliances among ourselves.

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If 500 Black folks (not niggas) showed up to voice their anger over and election or policy or anything else and DEMOSTRATED their willingness to get physical....

Agreed. Organizing that 500 Black folks and getting them on code to solve a problem is a challenge. 

I feel that we missed a huge opportunity  during the Million Man March in unifying Black men.

So much more positive could have come out of that movement in terms of progress. 

There are many Black people in the entertainment industry but a lower percentage than white folks especially in positions of power.

Hip-Hop music was started by AfroAmericans. It makes sense that we dominate it from an artistic perspective. It's unfortunate that we don't own it.

When Black folks migrated to California they lived among white folks. Of course, like every other major city, the white folks left for the suburbs and took their businesses too. Black folks were left to make it by any means necessary. 

@Pioneer1, I understand the point you're making about a group of Black folks growing up as minorities in a sea of White folks. Cities like Seattle, WA and Portland, OR are  examples of it too.

Do not deprive yourself of oxygen (hold your breath) waiting to see Black police officers arresting white folks for voter intimidation or anything without permission.

For that reason, Black police officers won't be assigned to voting stations to monitor voter intimidation. But, they'll show up wth sirens blaring if someone breaks in line or steals a ballot. 

Look no further than the January 6th insurrection. That video shows everything one needs to know about how white folks are handled by law enforcement. They were instructed to stand down. Do not fire a shot.

January 6th would have been totally different if the rioters were people of color. It would have been a massacre with hundreds shot dead and/or imprisoned.

There would be no investigation or senate select sub-committee hearings except to create a new public holiday...Put Em Down Day. 

White folks have privileges here that aren't extended or afforded to anyone else when it comes to crime and punishment.