frankster

True.. In a Holographic Universe the smallest most insignificant part reflects the whole vast Cosmos. So it is entirely true that you will find connections.....it's all connected All 0r Most Truth are arrived at thru some sort of Ritual.... the ritual in and of itself is not so important - what it creates in the Mind of the one performing the Ritual is. Yes... Thank you

Yep over 40...had them both growing up. Community was mixed.....Then mostly black

Are you FROM Nature? Are you IN Nature? Are you a Part of Nature? Can you answer no to any of the Above?...if so please explain. I am From My Mother and a Part of her as I was once INside her. I am Still apart of Her as everything I am is made from her Flesh(exclude sperm material) As I am No longer In Her...I am Apart from Her Not so with Nature....Me and my Mother are From(made of) Nature and remain a Part of Nature(Inside Nature) The ones you refer to as New Age. Then I must ask you to show where did I say "time did not exist" please keep it in context... I have maintain that time is a mental construct of this our shared reality....I have have shown where African philosophy has agreed All else is a misunderstanding on your part. Which are New and which ones are Not African?

You are looking for patterns....you are trained to see those forms or regularities. I am not trained as you are....I will not see those patterns unless or until you show me how to look. Chaos in this sense is pure potentialities all patterns exist....You have then bought to fore a pattern that might have never been noticed Did you create the Pattern...hard to say - but we know Consciousness did Is the pattern there....yes - among many other patterns that are sometimes interwoven and overlapping patterns within patterns in short chaos. Patterns allow us to make sense of nonsense.

Yeow.... so sad to read and must have been tragic to endure. Respect!!!!! for having surviving that and coming out the better for it. These are the events in life.....that demonstrates the Power of the Spoken Word. Explain It depends on what you mean by Leap of Faith? I have taken Risks but most of my actions are guide by Reason not so much Faith and or Logic with a healthy dose of Will Trying to develop more Faith heartell is a Source to or of Great Power WE SHARING....testimonials or confessional???? I pretty much grew up lower middle class..... Our lives to onlookers appeared great but on the inside pure misery - my escape was books. To Pops the whole religious thing was a hustle..Moms was into keeping an Open Mind I have had my battles with illnesses and temporary disabilities....Anything I wanted I had to save up to or work toward. I do believe in a world of higher powers accessible to all of us.... We all pray just not effectively all the time - Real Prayer is your True Desire. Your True Desire is that which you Do not question or doubt(often) but think of with feeling. On a Metaphysical Tip: Faith is Fate.

True....We live in a holographic/fractal Universe. Divination of various kinds has long been a part of Mankind....Astrology is one of the oldest. thank you

As I said earlier and I quote: Time is a Construct of the Mind(In shared Reality) in which we place events in a linear Sequence....The Past is a memory and the future a projection - both are function of the Mind Cool Dreaming is its own reality....just as being awake is its own reality - one can access other realities from the dreaming state or the waking state.

Neither are bird nest and beaver dams....If that be the case - in both cases bird nest and telephones are all made of materials from nature by beings in an of Nature It seems you find it incredulous that African Thought these Ideas independent of Whites. I shown that it is an African Idea.....Time is a Mental Construct You think the ideas espoused by New Agers are New and European?

True....it is also good or better if the leader also believes in him/herself - confidence is transmissible. Yes....it is said belief kills and cures. True There are also those who uses this information to manipulate the minds of the masses so as to influence Economics and Politics - Thru Mass Media.

Cool Yes Yes....World view - Mindset/belief system. Randomness is akin to Potentiality.....Consciousness Orders it - Observer Maybe the Pattern you eventually see is Ordered by your Observation Never read the book but now i am interested

And I have You are blinded by your preconceptions. They appear different They are composed of Atoms and as such they are the same....made of Atoms In your example The Writings are made of Ink no matter what shape they take. The light observed seems different given perspective. All cars are composed of various minerals and minerals only. Computers telephones and microscopes are made of what materials? Are you from Nature? Are you in Nature? Supreme Being? So one must qualify Is there other being who may at some point qualify True Do you know anything that is not of and in Nature You seemed to be enamored of white people? and That all ideas are of white people?

You are not wrong... Mind Thoughts Consciousness Subconsciousness Superconsciousness and Unconsciousness are terms often used interchangeable. Some are now coming to the Realization that there is One Consciousness of which we are all Expressions of. Can't say i see a difference. True Neither do I Given the current state of the information I have......Belief trumps Knowledge - Power does the biddings of both Belief and Knowledge Yes.. Then how do you explain the following: Africans claim that there is an entity called consciousness that is not influenced by space and time and exists in living and non-living beings and in a space less and timeless dimension..... that time is an ephemeral concept that exists only in the observer's mind. Time is a mental construct I have Said my piece .... Who would equate Being Alive with a Financial Investment as a equal forms of Risk. Dreams aren't different Realities.....Dreaming is its own Reality

The Mind is the part of Consciousness you Download or have access to Now is Everlasting....You only exist in the Now

You are asking that i confirm something I never affirmed. I have found truth and i told you where it lies. Never said they were. We are all composed of atoms....all sand grains are sand whilst sand castles may differ. They are the same at the Atomic level being composed of Atoms. Yes but on the level of Photons....they are nothing but Photons No...Only in perspective are we Different It seems We have had this conversation before.... Different Perspective must create The illusion of Difference....I am looking at a car's mineral composition and you are looking at it as a whole. What is in or from these Laboratories that is not from Natures? All these material comes from Nature and remain in Nature and as such are a part of Nature. So it alone has those Attributes...could you name one such attribute? If it's a title then it can be given to others? If its an office then others can hold or occupy it? First implies others. All is Nature and Nature has always existed Energy cannot be destroyed Fair enough.... No contenders. cool

We use what we can share.. If not then you present what you cannot share in your own words....with the name of the source - eg: book and author name I never said dreams cannot get you there....Just that once there you are no longer dreamin So allow me to repost: In this article, the author discusses the African view of space-time called “Hantu.” Furthermore, he clarifies the Africans’ understanding of consciousness, which is linked to their worldview, particularly the idea of space and time. This is important because Africans claim that there is an entity called consciousness that is not influenced by space and time and exists in living and non-living beings and in a space less and timeless dimension..... From the discussed definitions of time, Africans understand that contrary to the Western view, that time is an ephemeral concept that exists only in the observer's mind. Time is a mental construct and is derived from our daily activities, and it is something that is inseparably connected to events, activities, daily chores, and objects, which helps us carry out our duties and make sense of the world around us. https://wireilla.com/physics/ijrap/abstract/10321ijrap01.html You never made any such challenge...I have met your Initial Challenge and prove my Point - see above quote. I quote: Because there's nothing in ancient or recent pre-colonial African philosophy or literature that claims time "doesn't exist". If there is...please show me. So if you want it in Pre-colonial African writings or Literature then that's a secondary Challenge. True.... I have prove the above The below should jog your memory....Words in red are my own "Lets bring it down to philosophical fundamentals.....all life activities includes is a risk - I am not addressing that type of risk. The Rich take Calculated Risk.... I'll take that statement as you FINALLY coming around to agreeing with me on this point, lol. My Point is the Risk of Living .....you have no choice in the matter - it is a risk All living things MUST take And MY point is...you first claimed that rich people DON'T take risks, and now you admit they do. This case is CLOSED as far as I'm concerned, lol. The Act of being Alive or the Risk of Living is way different from an Calculated Financial Investment taken by the Rich. And no one has argued any differently....." So I say you have....argued differently. You call that semantics.....The difference between an Investment and Aliveness The Moment it becomes another Reality how can it remain a Dream? For Sure

Meaning is all the Truth we seek. Yes The Meaning Africans take from "the trail of slime that a snail leaves as it crawls across the sidewalk" is called Geomancy - todays Fractals True but I would rather answer One that causes you ache. They Represent Archetypes of Humanity Male and Female.....The Serpent represent an intelligence within both - This I have confirmed. We are made of Atoms.....Atoms are part of Nature. I am It from a different Perspective and Frequency They are all Atoms....in Vibrational flux We appear different as a result of Perspective and Perception Duality and Bias. Where Did the material come from to make these things? There are many more women out there qualified to hold the title and office of Mayor.. Are there many more beings out there qualified to be the Supreme? Is the Supreme a Title or Office? In other words is it the Only or First? Cool then we agree to disagree Ok Yes.....That is the case So this Being created Existence from itself??? So there other Beings with which this Being is of a Kind?.....possible contenders? Is this a Being or an Entity?

True ....Power come in various strengths - also many types and forms Power is basically the Ability(Skill/Exercise Control) to do....Make change Power uses Force to accomplish Change. Omnipotence is either summation of all Powers or a Singular Power. Are you asking which Form of power is the most effective...Political Social Economic etc?

Hence the reason why I could not contextualize..... Knowledge Is being aware of facts.....Understanding is knowing how when and where to use/apply those Facts For Knowledge to be or become Power two things are required Know How (Skill/Practical Knowledge) and Resources. In your Example above Skill is training and resources is the gun. Belief is comprise of two things Imagination and Will....Both of which are natural to all.

So you are guilty of that which you accuse me Of.....You have Inserted your word "having" for my word "those" so that it can make your assertions appear true - This is a misrepresentation in order to Demonize. Check Yourself and try to Listen to your conscience. Of Course not, you have been caught red handed in a blatant misrepresentation. Regardless...... you have bought up some great arguments, that would be fun to unpack. You should stand by your convictions and use honesty reason logic and love to see where they lead. I will honor your request....I look forward to us having future dialogues.

Belief is most likely more powerful than Knowledge.... Knowledge is the beginning of Power.. Power is what we are measuring so it is difficult to contextualize what you mean by power in order to place its position. Yes it does. Again you will have to further explain what you mean by each term vis a vis power.

Before I address your complete statement where did you get "having evil Intent" from? Please post the complete line?

It is nearest truth we have until more compelling information takes us closer to truth "However, all of them agreed that dreams are in fact a manifestation of our reality (apart from nightmares, we usually see only humans in our dreams and they are people we know) and they are what can be best described as a “mish mash” of our feelings and thoughts. However, what lies underneath it?" So I took that Quote above from the Article you sited and I see where they are saying the same thing... We see only humans in our dreams and they are people we know.....Memory They are a Mish Mash of our Feelings and thoughts ....Memory. However what lies underneath it?.....whole new State and or Reality. Please bring something stronger?? Have you ever experienced a dream that was so real and life-like that you felt like you were literally there in the moment? You can feel the breeze on your face, smell the fresh cut grass or taste the food that touched your lips. These realistic dreams feel like much more than just a creation of our imagination. A new science-based theory might actually reveal this to be true… The Author of this article uses the word "Realistic" where I would use Attribute..... Many have ventured into Parallel Universes and Timelines thru Sleep Dream Trance Drugs and Flora (plants) Consumption Sweat Lodge Illness or Meditation etc ...Too much ways to mention all. I already showed you that these are African and Eastern philosophies. You haved.. They do not take those risks those risk are foisted on them by the very nature of them being alive. You have Yep...And I did not feel the heat in my sauna as I drove in it in my car. I am Not going anywhere or hearing anything....all I am doing is remembering these things in different ways. That a skill

Pick Your choice...I find meaning in most Bible Stories - Therein lies the Truth It is most definitely so if I am also completely made of the same thing. We are 70% water....so we are more Lake than flesh and blood You are part Show me a Being that is not in part and whole of Nature What Part of Existence is not Nature??? If it's the Only it cannot also be the First until there is a second.....Is there a second Supreme Being? Exactly....Objects Only exist by being Observed Hence they are subject to the Mind of the Observer....In Shared Physical Reality the Observer/s Construct Time and Space for us to experience Physicality. If This Supreme Being exist in Time and Space them it is a Product of Shared Physical reality. Says me...All objects in time and space typically hold a particular shape and occupy one locale at a time - thus is the nature of the observable shared physical reality. To Create something from so called Non existence is to be left with Non existence.....Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing . Bought into existence from where? How do you know that this Being is most effective? You said this Being is Supreme....if this Being is supreme there must be Lower beings? Comparing to fellow beings.

True...That's how we find TRuth True ....wouldn't have it anyother way. Please show the studies that support your Ideas so we can peruse them Yes dreams consist of Memories.... When you step into parallel Universe and Timelines - you are no longer in the State of Dreaming. It Supports Buddha's assertion...."With our thoughts we create the World" or "We are what we Think, All that we are, arises from our thoughts" How can the above Summation disproves what I have been saying all along....Plus the reason why we are here is because you did not know that africans had such ideas as the Observer's Role in Time. Please show how this support your assertions of linear sequential time? The Act of being Alive or the Risk of Living is way different from an Calculated Financial Investment taken by the Rich. This Risk of Living is not a choice one can take or not take....You have no choice in the matter Every living thing takes that risk...Not only the Rich If you pretend to see "just being alive" the same as making a "calculated financial decision" - Then you are dishonest Thank You On that we will have to disagree. I know that you know you are defending non-sense. Yes Can't say it does or did....as I always wake up hungry and thirsty when I dream of food or drinks. Most times it sits in the seat but sometimes the seat is my sauna especially when i wanted one. They were not physical Yes....often months and sometimes years later I come to find out we already met Can't recall that in a dream....but in waking realty - yes.

Tell me which story you find impossible to be vetted?? Yes we agree to disagree. In Animism The Divine exists in the All things animate and inanimate, in words and places......and all things exist in the Divine - Therefore the Dive is the All Just as we are a part of Nature, we exist in Nature and Nature is in us...We are Made of Nature I do not accept the idea that a Being created Nature Beings are in Existence.....Existence is Nature - Nature is the sum total of all forms Realities. Cool This Being is the First......Implies that it is Of a Kind(specie)....of which they are more It seems this Being is subject to Existence....Existence denotes Objectivity - All Objects exist in Time and Space. Objects in Time and Space indicates.....Finiteness - Limitations. From what did this being Create Existence? in Existence means it is a part Of existence Which.... isn't it already In Existence) ? How do you define Power? This Being belongs to Hierarchy Of Beings of which this Being is the Supreme.....Because this Being is The Most Powerful