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  1. Countering The Conspiracy to Destroy Black Boys (1987) | Dr. Jawanza Kunjufu
  2. Please share videos and ideas that suggest new and innovative ways to educate our people by destroying social stigma and erroneous ideas. Developing Positive Self-Images In Black Children (1988) | Dr. Jawanza Kunjufu Oh! as an aside just love his 70's swagger....almost like a dance how can you not learn -
  3. Exactly why you must "kill Buddha" ....Buddha has the reputation of Knowing everything. There is nothing New under the sun.....it all cycles - old things become new again. Check out Horace Butler ....when rocks cry out Clyde Winters....Mayan writings /Mande glyphs Laird Scranton. Micheal Tellinger Adam's Calendar brought me Billy Carson; In a nutshell: We once were a part of a Galactic civilization(Type II Civilization)...Now we have Watchers overseeing(Enoch) Now we are less than a Global/Planetary Type I Civilization(Kardeshev Scale/Energy Consumption Model). That seems to be the general gist of these Alternative Histories Then we must define our understandings of the terms.
  4. And I say the bulk of it is racism. Our people are not lazy or indifferent......they labouring under self hate Until We as a people begin to Love our Black African self as we are and begin from there....we will be pawns of psychops. "the Oppressed will always believe the worst about themselves" Franz Fanon They do not own those business....They are Franchisees. They have no need to....they do not pose a threat to the establish order of Racism They are controlled Regulated and monitored through the Licensing Process......Chamber of Commerce. First off I love what those brothers and sister are doing....I congratulate them and hope that it is replicated all over the black community. TAgain they pose no threat to Racism.....let them begin organize and politize around community and social issues... There is plenty individual and business success in the black community....We only begin to make real change when by funding or participating in grassroots social issues The Point is When black organizations begin to push for real Change they are targeted....Look at the level of organization - 400,000 dues paying members. Not hitting mom and pops business we all have to start somewhere, change begins here .....but that is not the level at which real social and political change happens. They Enemy you know is easily defeated....White racism is studying us and even have us studying ourselves for them.....though we advance by steps they advance by leaps and bounds. Far from it....I am suggesting why whats is happening is happening. Yes ... Racist has our communities in a Health and Food Lock....They destroyed our communities with Drugs and created Urban Blight for us to live in. There is plenty we can do. Simply put....We have internalized Racism. Not Indifference......Mind Control - MKultra (Mind Kulture) If you control the thoughts of a people you will not have to use force to have them destroy themselves just have the means of self destruction readily available and easily accessible. 1. Destitution 2. Propaganda 3. Learned Helplessness 4. Dependency That's like Fighting for peace....You want unity by first creating separation. Self Education is the First Step and the most important ongoing Methodology...No One is left out. In most cases Education will redinkle the Desire and Enforce the Will. . I will not argue they following or explain further Everyone will have their Role and Part to play. For instant: it is not necessary for everyone to know all the Goals and Aims of the Movement nor the Means and Methods employed to reach the ObJectives. "Do you think the people working for Peace Corps knows that they are poisoning the very people they think they are helping." Yes Imagine what they are doing to the Minds of our People. If you are being Poison and Persecuted and as a result you lack the ability to think clearly(Dumbing Down) and work industriously(Learned Helplessness) toward a worthy Goal.....Then that which appears to be the Truth is a lie Yes. We do.....because its our blood sweat and tears they stole and continue to steal so as to have such Credit...to give freely to their own kind. We need it.... and we are doing.. https://mightydeposits.com/posts/bank-black Yes. No one..... Then why are they not doing it.....Lack of the Proper Knowledge - Education No one has shown then how lucrative and Beneficial it can be....so to them it maynot be worth the effort or risk. First you must understand, that Monotheism brought in a new nomenclature....in the Understanding of God wherein it is realized that All Gods are One.... Hence the Trinity...So lets understand God in terms of His/Her Functions - Creator Preserver and Destroyer - Father Son and Holy Ghost. Your are Given a title according to the function you Perform... Elohim - The Title of Leader/Father and Authority. Yes Jehovah Yahweh are Translation of ...Yud Hey Vav Hey. True.... But it takes One to Lead.....Though he answer to many who follow. He that is the greatest among ye shall be your servant....MLK is among our greats because he serves us well No the divine does not contradict. What you and I called Evil, is Man made Cultural Construction with real world effects Hot and cold do not exist in reality they are degrees in temperature that we label/title hot are cold....Temperature is One continuum. So in your understanding God will seem to contradict and do evil. You eat a vegetable .....is that Good or Evil? For You it is Good for the Vegetable it is Evil ...God Transcend The Morality of God and Evil - God we are Expressions of LIFE/Energy IIsaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Christ is the Karast....Djed Ka RA - RISING SPIRIT. Paulianity or Christianity as you called it ..... is a Corruption of Karast Ways and Knowledge - Knowing Our struggle is not against flesh and blood .........but against Principles and Ideas When it come to tenets I do pick and Choose. Thank you It has never been....Death is a tool in war of Ideas Neither has that been a reliable form of Deterrent. Maybe but it never worked in the past.... We have had this discussion already please refer to it....suffice to say diet culture and environment. No... Aristocracy has to do with bloodline Meritocracy has to do with ability. Meritocracy through Aristocracy is Nepotism.....buying Indulgences. I think we have more laws hence we have more criminals and I also think as a result prison population growth rate is outgrowing population growth rate. Yes It is a stream of income for some Exactly. Yes....Repurpose Yes....both and future innocent victims. True....good reason to repurpose. Education is what needed not much I found that the reasons why those conversation were so long was because we said too much in our response to begin hence I try in most case to keep my posts short and concise....alas it makes no difference but I love it
  5. True Spirituality is about direct connect to God....Man Know thyself. Religion is an organization use to control Man and his Spirituality for few to have Power 4BIDDEN KNOWLEDGE With Billy Carson | Spirituality Vs. Religion Pt. 2
  6. I am showing why we are still having from Food Justice Issues Come Pioneer 1 We are both speaking about the recent past as you yourself stated: I quote:- Back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s the Nation of Islam had grocery stores and resturants in nearly every Black community in this nation serving healthy and nutritious food. This was during a time when MORE open racism, segregation, and poverty existed as obstacles for the AfroAmerican community. What you think White Racist in America stop Destroying in Black business and Organizational successes? Take the Organization Known as Acorn (not the App) with over 400,000 ( Dues paying ) membership it was targeted and destroyed when it started to implement an Employee Deduction Program. Racists realize that if instituted the organization would net billions in under 5yrs... Acorn was one of the most effective and progressive black led Organization destroyed by Racism that never made it into the News Until the 2008 election campaign threw it into the national spotlight, ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) was well known among its 400,000 member families and other grassroots organizations as a leader in community organizing around social and economic justice issues. But it had little presence on the national political scene......I have to tell you about the attacks on us from the Right. https://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/academics/colleges/hclas/cld/cld_rlr_sp09_acorn_duffy.pdf Yes....Why you think all those Right Wing Think Tanks are being paid Billions to do?....To ensure we stay in the ghettos by finding ways to criminalize black success or organizations -Edu/Info/Media, Movement, Fresh Air, Water and Food. Food Control is a Major way to control People.....Food is Mood The following was written in the early 19 century for the British Nobility. More sensational than tests of intelligence is the possibility of controlling the emotional life through the secretions of the ductless glands. It will be possible to make people choleric or timid, strongly or weakly sexed, and so on, as may be desired. Differences of emotional disposition seem to be chiefly due to secretions of the ductless glands, and therefore controllable by injections or by increasing or diminishing the secretions. Assuming an oligarchic organization of society, the State could give to the children of holders of power the disposition required for command, and to the children of the proletariat the disposition required for obedience. Against the injections of the State physicians the most eloquent Socialist oratory would be powerless. The only difficulty would be to combine this submissiveness with the necessary ferocity against external enemies; but I do not doubt that official science would be equal to the task. It is not necessary, when we are considering political consequences, to pin our faith to the particular theories of the ductless glands, which may blow over, like other theories. All that is essential in our hypothesis is the belief that physiology will in time find ways of controlling emotion, which it is scarcely possible to doubt. When that day comes we shall have the emotions desired by our rulers, and the chief business of elementary education will be to produce the desired disposition, no longer by punishment or moral precept, but by the far surer method of injection or diet. The men who will administer this system will have a power beyond the dreams of the Jesuits, but there is no reason to suppose that they will have more sense than the men who control education to-day. Technical scientific knowledge does not make men sensible in their aims, and administrators in the future, will be presumably no less stupid and no less prejudiced than they are at present. https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/en/russell2.htm Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible .. https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/bertrand-russell-impact-science-society True.. Most of what we Desire and Focus on is Learnt.....Education again is the Answer It will not be profitable as the Community you want to serve Lack the Proper Food Education of Nutrition its Necessity Benefits and Preparation. Sugar and Salt is are very Addictive substance...especially when start on early in life or in utero. Food Coloring and most Food additives are Neurotoxins Using Words like Societal Laziness, Societal immaturity and Longer to prepare is true of the entire society both black white and other... but are often use as "code" for Black stereotyping. It is Racism..... who taught them to hate themselves(Malcolm X) It's called Consumerism and Marketing/Advertising Campaign.....people fall prey regardless of so called race I do not hearing him referring to black people as "lazy" Please watch again his explanation of the cause. White Business have access to credit and Racism is guarantee of white success. Spending Power is Good but is often mostly Consumed by Mandatory Spending on Immediate and Urgent cost of living expenses on life necessities...... Discretionary Income is far more important....Racism Denies Black Discretionary Income Time Stamp 1:27 - 2:40 tells you the cause Lack of the Knowledge of Self - self hate ....who taught them to hate themselves? I Am ..... I Am Elohim Yahweh Jehovah etc are all titles ad honorifics Cool Yes....Jesus is the FulfillMent of God's Love No one human knows All. Some Know more than others. The Truth lies in your Heart It is Divine Christ is Our Saviour....Jesus was not a Christian Christianity is a Religion and I do not do religion.......I study the Scriptures and live by many of its Tenets - Old and New Testaments No I do not believe or know that sociopaths or psychopaths are without conscience....but i will accept that some scientist believe so. For years now the Punishment for Murder is Death......Yet we still have countless murders every year Soldiers go to War on the say so of others....People commit suicide for their beliefs. People risk death for an adrenaline rush or a dare.....Death is not a deterrent . Yes Wars are a "racket" to gain Access to Resource or Market share for the Corporatocracy Race is not biological...some individuals express more or less Melanin than that others....we have had this discussion already if you wish to revisit it then it behooves one of us to find the thread. You are defining a Meritocracy.....Class has to do with Aristocracy Is crime increasing proportionally respective to the growing population at large or shrinking? We had had prisons for hundreds of years and yet crime outstrips population growth Does it deters some people from crime....yes Yet More and More people are committing more and more heinous crimes.....as we see by prison population growth. Its not working it needs to be replace by something that works more effectively. No....what if another method can save two lives instead of one? Hence the reason I said it should be repurpose...."Tough on Crime is a Racist Agenda and money making scheme." I see criminality as a Maladaptive dysfunction......Not an Innate Compulsion. Hey I love it I will wait for good arguments and points.....it is fun
  7. True True If Resources are available then they should be Educated on Strategies and Skills to deal with Self hate
  8. Black Self hate is a Necessity for White Supremacy to continue to Exist. Self hate robs you of Meaning and Purpose.....Life then becomes insecure and the future blighted. Black self hate is supported by...Mass Media's perpetual publication of Black Caricature, Stereotyping and Social Stigmatism as Memes News or Entertainment. For and to which most blacks are inadequately prepared to respond to or handle well especially since exposure begins at and pre birth.
  9. Self Hate is a condition in which Racism is Socialized and Internalized. If you are African Born and Raised in a Westernized (Americas) Society or former colonial country, Then Self Hate is the default setting of your Mind set....as Racism is for Europeans. The First step to unravelling this is......Learning Your History and Second Educating Our Children Ourselves.
  10. If you meet Buddha on the road kill him Lin Chi
  11. Not True Black Businesses could not avail themselves of Credit from Lending Institutions - The real cause is Discriminatory Lending - in Housing it was called RedLining. FHA, ECOA and CRA are Fair Lending Laws/Acts passed to remedy the onslaught of Discriminatory Lending - It survive as Predatory Lending and Odious Debt Yes there was more black owned stores during the time of Segregation....it was a necessity. Integration allow Blacks to shop where they pleased....Lacking access to Credit many black businesses could not compete. Careful Pioneer1 less you reveal your Heart..... your words seemed borrowed from the Racists Playbook. Racism is Lethal Violence. Then share with me your interpretation of what the word "God" means in the Bible? Just To be clear in the bible Israel is under Contract....under Law Outside the Bible we are Under Grace.....God's Love The Error is in your ability to Comprehend what is being communicated. I have nothing against questioning all and everything....even the bible is to be question If you are being "jealous" in the way the verses you quoted are using the word "jealous" then your Contractual Rights are being attacked or denied.... So the people you intend to defend or guard must be in a Contractual Relationship with you. If so then you are oblige even obligated to guard and defend your Rights. I was responding to your statement: 2. If to be jealous means to guard and defend one's rights, then keeping up with the origin and theme of this thread Black men SHOULD be more jealous, right? On this science may support you to a point......I stand with scripture - We Human Beings are Social creatures and are Born with Conscience. I do not do Religion.....Spirituality is my quest All Social Creatures have a Conscience.....whether they obey it or not is Free Will. Where did I say "ended"......I said BOTH are IN application. I think they had access ..... what change - is that they no longer have to hide. Yet Our military did not do so well in Vietnam....they are looking at the weak link. Many will tell you that our healthcare system is failing if not broken.....they are looking at the weak link. Social Constructs are only real in a existing Social Order......Race Class and Caste are Social Constructs. To each His Own.....Which is your preference? True....Common sense is often Temporal. Religion is an Organization of socio-culture beliefs and practices.......Faith is Spiritual. Yet Criminal activity continues....Prisons and Retributive Justice as a deterrent has failed. They will be apprehended and given the care they need. So we agree.
  12. One of the manifestation of Structural Racism in the US is the Lack of Readily Affordable, Accessible, and Available Nutritious Food in Black (Inner city) Communities. There is approximately 2 million African Americans enduring One or All of the Food Justice Issues in the US...like Food Desert, Food Swamp, Food insecurity, and Food Apartheid. True we concur....On the lack of proper Food Education - Nutrition and Food Preparation Skill. Cultural Habit in the Black Community is Not a Coping Skill but a Survival Mechanism as a result of Structural Racism. True True in most cases. Your initial question was...... I quote: The Israelites are in a Contractual relationship with God.... Are you sure about this? If it's part of the Bible why haven't I read it? I have shown that Contractual Relationship.. And Yes it was A Marriage....God Considered Himself the "Husband" Yes.. but not all of us are under contract..... Who said it was not from God??....That's your interpretation of my words. The Bible is Man's Understanding of God.....Your Interpretation of Man's Understanding depends Depends on your Cognition. Often Errors seen in the Bible is our lack Comprehension. Do you have a "contractual Relationship" with the individuals you want to "guard or defend" as in Jealous? Yes it is a metaphor and should be taken figuratively and literally....We all have a Conscience Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. True Hence Jesus fulfilled....Both are in application Maybe urinating in public could in some cases pose a health hazard......but the others are practically for all intents and purposes "du jure" in many countries in the world. True.... Based on your own quote..... Today was built on Yesterday, and Tomorrow will be built on Today! What in yesterday's white women led to today's white women marrying black men at such a high rate? Yes I am only "implying" that it must have happen frequently....If I was "stating" I would have given you more than the past is the best predictor of the future already I will let a Doctor pronounce them dead before I do....Doctors have the require info or knowledge It is a Truism.....Show me where it does not apply? Human beings are human beings.....We are all One Race One Class one Caste Do you prefer a Caste or Class system to the Racialized hierarchical one we now live in??? Common sense is subject to Culture Time and Place.....In Hitler's Germany it was the law and common sense to persecute Jews. Punishment is retributive and not necessarily Restorative or rehabilitative.. Justice is supposed to be Reparative. Discipline is educative. Is there overlap ...yes - where or what is emphasized is important. A message like that is not for the mother of someone who has been victimize The Current punitive and retributive forms of Justice is becoming more and more apparent that its not working as a deterrent to crime...Tough on Crime is a Racist Agenda and money making scheme.
  13. Troy and ProfD it is Good to be appreciated.....Thank you both and much Love "brotha goes into the paint"....that has my laughing all the way to work. Pioneer1 my well meaning misguided brother....it is as Troy said I do it not for the Racist among us but for the humanity in all of us. Love this space
  14. So Far China Has proven to be the Best (most favorably) Global Trading Partner....over the past 1000 yrs(1100's to today) Yet there is cause for concern based on how she treats her own citizens. So when Trading with China be mindful....be wary
  15. Usually people choose a "less Healthy diet" because Affordability and lack Knowledge of Nutrition and skill of Food Preparation. Constant Exposure to Systemic Racism often leads to dysfunction Are you implying that all Bottled water is Good? Information and Influences also plays a part in an individuals choice Then I have proved my point.... God and his People called Israel have a contractual Relationship. A Marriage is Considered a Contract Jeremiah 31:31-32 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord Yes ....It is It is Man's Understanding Of God. No it's Not a contradiction Jealous....also means to Guard and Defend One's Rights vigorously....as in a contract Moses Laws were written On tablets of Stone...fear Jesus Laws are written in you heart....love Jesus fulfilled the Law. Repurpose Repurpose Them into Treatment and Training facilities....I hold specific meanings for the terms treatment and training. Our Freedoms end where or when it proves to be imminent harm to another's freedoms....Golden Rule. They are exercising their Free Will....where is the harm? I based my assumption on the rate at which white women are marrying black men today. I show you the exception, to what you thought was the rule as proof. The Universal law does not abrogate Free Will.....It Compensate and Rebalance It is the sick that needs a doctor.....We are only as strong as our weakest link. So be it unto you. Such an Organization would lack Mercy and Love of those who need it most. All Black women are not my Daughters. Discipline is for everyone. Control is best self directed.
  16. Stitt calls for resignations after McCurtain County leaders recorded talking about killing reporters Republican Officials Recorded Expressing Desire To Kill Black People
  17. What's silly is misplaced Concerned.... What I see is so called "White collar crime" mostly perpetrated by white men going unprosecuted and underreported. White Collar Crime Kill way more that all so called violent crime combined....and often no one goes to jail. Vioxx is just one Drug.....in One Industry Graham testified, based on data from studies conducted by Merck, that between 88,000 and 139,000 U.S. residents have experienced heart attacks or strokes as a result of Vioxx. He added that as many as 40% of those patients, or about 55,000, died as a result of Vioxx. According to Graham, FDA previously would not allow him to publish the study on Vioxx, and agency officials sent e-mails to Lancet to persuade the editors not to publish the research https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/dr00027781/ You do not want to debate....you only want to stigmatize. This Conjecture of yours is laughable.....blame the victim - reverse psychology. No ethnic Group in America throughout its history has suffered more State Sanction Violence...Only Native Americans come close Of Course you don't.....your conscience will reveal your lying hypocrisy. That we agree on.... Propaganda to malign Blacks so as to assuage the conscience of those of evil intent and trick the simple minded Another step in the dehumanization of Black peoples....
  18. If you are a cow you want to be born in India, this world is full of what to us western minds is strange cultures
  19. Why does it matter? The God described in the Bible and the God taught by Western Christian is not entirely Synonymous. Father and Son is the Same but different. The bible does not support chattel slavery......Indentured servitude or "spoils of war" - booty Rapist are put to death if the molest a woman who is married or betroth. A woman who is raped in the countryside....he must Marry her or both face death...in the city she alone face death. ITS WAR...it's not about the individual but the group. Tough topics.....nothing to sing about true.
  20. Yeah i first learned of this phenomenon from my nephew, who went on a business trip to Vietnam and India... He explained it this way to me based on his assumptions ...right or wrong I do not know. It comes down to attitude In the US traffic lights and signs give drivers the permission to be "dead right" and other drivers to be "dead wrong" I have the "Right of Way" mentality...your vehicle becomes a shield and or a weapon. In India and Vietnam the Vehicle is a part of you and like walking you do not want to bounce into any one as a result you pay more attention... Altruistic Sharing of the space - hypervigilance.
  21. What "they" need is accessibility to necessities of Life I put my trust in more and better Education and Necessary Coping Skills Here is the Marriage Contract - Vows Genesis 17:10 - 14. 9God also said to Abraham, “You must keep My covenant—you and your descendants in the generations after you. 10This is My covenant with you and your descendants after you, which you are to keep: Every male among you must be circumcised. 11You are to circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and this will be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.… You should... Where did I say " misplaced...really should have been"????...... I clearly said it "could and has" In the KJv the word Jealous used Literal Standard Version Exodus 34:14 for you do not bow yourselves to another god—for YHWH, whose Name [is] Zealous, is a zealous God. https://biblehub.com/exodus/34-14.htm Moses appeals to the Emotion of Fear Jesus appeals to the Emotion of Love Same Goal different routes....focus on God Jails and prison are being misused Military overused There is no doubt they are Oppressive Remove no .....Repurpose yes - Restorative Justice. Right now it's a money making scheme....Retributive Penal Colonies - PIC Discipline Yes Force and or Control ......best avoided at most cost Lol You caught that, when I was typing it I did mused to myself will that spelling be notice....but i did not know it prompted the what nation query......Yaadman. You cannot legislate against Human Nature....Nature is the Neteru Do Unto others as you would that they should do to you.....Then you do not need signs. Mad crossroad No rulles in traffic India live streaming Then we concur Yes...that is true.. That means it failed on both counts....both white men and women visited the enslaved quarters. You are entitled to speak your mind Good Movie Proper Nutrition is all about Discipline You haven't seen it so it does not exist. Lion saves a baby calf from another lion attack A Lioness Adopts a baby antelope. A short documentary that will open your eyes. True but what is the opportunity cost.. Natures plays a role....but in most cases I suspect it is Nurture that corrupts.....In other words Rehabilitation is possible Finding the Cause/s may lead to the Eradication of Murder....or at least drastically reduction - Restorative Justice That is a Judgement Call for those in the know of the relevant deciding factors. You get to decide...how best to be forgiving. Sadly. Mainly my beloved Daughters
  22. I concur equal pay for equal work.. Name them? True Today....who knows what tomorrow brings Question are these cooking and cleaning Jobs paid work? Originally only the rich got married....as in Arranged Marriages to ensure the security of wealth status and class - Power Marriage among the common people was is set up to benefit the Male Party in the relationship.....this is rapidly changing. Today Romantic Marriage is based on a couples love for each other....as women begin to enter the work force the Need for a Man was replaced with the Want for a partner This has not been my experience. One of the reasons you do not see so much videos of white doing "stupid things" on youtube may be because it often does not turn deadly or no one is arrested and or charged.....in other words the Officers are more Circumspect and Prudent. - Restrained. I would never support the enslave of anyone. White Slavery is rampant in America.....It's now call Sex Trafficking - Pimps come in all colors and sexes. Those trafficked come in all colors ages and sex. We are free to live where we please...afterall we continue to make it better for everyone Were???? what happened to them?!?! So you are Black Why so hostile toward your fellow Blacks? Not to worry that still happens today... Since the Fall of Matriarchy women have been considered property....Misogyny Many blacks today use the Racist system against their fellow Black......are you one of those blacks? When you live in a racist system it is easy to be socialize into becoming an oppressor....the system will reward you if you oppress the maligned marginalized and neglected.
  23. Control and Restrict "one's (own) deit".....Not anothers Having access to Education and Exercise etc...is the basis of liberty The Israelites are in a Contractual relationship with God....It is a warning that if broken there will be dire consequences The word Translated as Jealous here could and has been interpreted as Zealous in other scriptures....The KJV Translators prefered to use Jealous. It is the First Commandment...No other God - Monotheism Moses said it that way and Jesus said this way Matt 22:37-38 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. It is a threat or warning of intent should One break the agreement.....of No other God No The idea of controlling and Restricting people against their Will....that is dangerous Consensus is Good. Controlling and restricting people who pose no danger is. If it is against her will....then it is oppressive. Those Oppressive Social conditions are often a result of Racism If some desires to kill themselves and there is no sign of mental illness.....Euthanasia(assisted suicide) is not unheard of. It is not you place to force or control them. Yes....it is a judgement call NYC Those Laws were passed to keep people apart......It Failed and they have been struck down - no longer the Law of the Land. True...they did not work. Laws are there to benefit Society as a whole. Exactly. I have and I can. They Past is the best predictor of the Future and we learn most from our past failures Why do you think we have terms like Mulatto, Octoroons and Quadroons.....it is also believe by some historians that as many five of our Presidents before Obama had African Blood...It was not an exception - hence the miscegenation laws Ok...I am saying laws were made to prevent socalled race mixing in the past and it failed then....we had plenty of mixed race people. The way white women are marrying black men today is a real life demonstration of why it failed. We learn from the past....that's why history is taught. Do not use the obvious overlap to confound.. Race, Sex, and Marriage are Primarily Social Issues....It only becomes Political when we try to Legislate around the issues As such nearly all social and economic issues can be politicize Please you said a lot more than that.... I quote: I'm not going to physically stop a Black woman from being with whatever man she chooses. However I have and I WILL make it crystal clear that I DO NOT like the best of our women even having CASUAL conversations with White men let alone getting into relationships with them and having sex and children with them. That's Intimidation I concur No....Just one Movie - Mandingo starring Ken Norton How is it going to be healthy and strong if you are recommending it being controlling and restrictive. It is the Law of God and it is the Nature of the Universe Prisons does not address the causes of crime....It Punishes Criminals. Unjust Laws Creates Criminals By far most human beings are not Murderers....Murderers need Care Why would a human being want to kill? Calling oneself a Christian or Going to Church may not make you a Christian....Obeying God's Commandment is a First step - to being a child Of God or part of His Flock Drug Addicts are not sick? Lack of coping skills or dysfunctional reasoning and or Maladaptive behaviour. Yes..... We have all fell short and it is human to err.....Forgiveness is for all Pioneer 1 said: Sorry my man...... But as THIS point, I can't even say racism is the biggest problem our community faces. I would have to say STUPIDITY is Most other men CARE and want to CONTROL everything of value and worth in their communities, it's almost common sense to them. I care and value all women in my community....I do not treat my women according to the values of other men. Black Women are not 'things' to be control
  24. Yes our community is in danger.....Men and women crossing the color line poses little danger. Controls and Restrictions is not protection the need. Proper Nutrition, Education, Exercise and Play, Defensive, and Employable Skills development is the best way to protect our women and children No one deserves to be jealous and are resentful....those are emotion stemming from fear and inadequacies. Continuously striving toward your desired future....Indignation Hurt and Pain are real that cannot be denied....Jealousy and Resentment are Emotions to be Overcome. You did in a roundabout way: I'm not going to physically stop a Black woman from being with whatever man she chooses. However I have and I WILL make it crystal clear that I DO NOT like the best of our women even having CASUAL conversations with White men let alone getting into relationships with them and having sex and children with them. I understand it is your opinion, but it is also an idea and ideas are often times more dangerous than we would want to accept. Such ideas lack only Support Means and Opportunity. We are not talking about children are we.... Any way there is a difference between Instilling Discipline and Abuse.....as well as between Control and Setting Boundaries. Control is manipulation and Abuse is about instilling fear and not about Educating or teaching. Your Ideas and Arguments or way of Reasoning lends itself readily to an oppressive attitude toward women of color who choose to cross the Ethnic divide. Again it is really Care and Safety....but it sounds better when one says Care and Protect...as in protect and serve - we know how that goes down in our communities. When under Protection some Freedoms are given up....while under Safety Freedoms are preserve and threats and dangers mitigated. Your Reasonings does not bear that out: I'd rather see a Black man with a Black woman, however I will tolerate our men being the ones to dip outside than our women do it because they are more vulnerable and when women dip outside of the community it is more dangerous and harmful You are right when it comes to Behaviours...But Remember is Always best to Encourage Good Behaviour than to Discourage Bad Behaviour. I am looking at the failure of Miscegenation Laws of the past based on current trends in Marriage. Meaning that if you denouncing interracial relationships it has failed in the past and will probable failed today Again I am talking today....20% of Married White are Married to black men....that's not a few exception. The issue we are discussing is Social......Not Political or Economical Yes we are.....Black women crossing the color line...and your disappoint with that and the reaction of Black men to it. You are entitled to your opinion....No one is stopping you from expressing yourself . That freedom to express yourself is what i am trying to preserve by saying to you allow black women to date whom they please without your intimidation. and condemnation. Once your opinion is express in this forum, then you invite critique. Your Freedom ends when it impinges on anyone's Freedoms.....Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. A child has no concept of individuality until around 7-9....pure Impulse and Urges....Reasoning and Rational Thought is in most cases absent. Without Rational thought Communication through Verbal Language is difficult....Kinetics(kinesics/bodily) communications is the only viable option. Yes the Child's Lack of Volition denies them the ability to give Consent or Dissent....In exchange for their welfare all or most decision are made on their behalf. These decision are neither voluntary or involuntary That's not the point I was addressing.... One would be surprise at the reality of how common it was for the both slave Master and the slave Mistress to find themselves with an African lover...Hence the Mandingo. There is nothing more attractive to a rich white woman than a young hard working sweaty muscle bound oppressed black Man....Of course both white men and white women would exclude that from the history books and studies.....but its betrayed by the numbers of white women marrying black men today. The Truth is I would like to see her with whomever she chooses. When you are Married you are bound by the Marriage contract and vows taken....implicit and explicit. The word Husband implies Caretaker and HousHolder....The Word wife implies HelpMate Maybe You are confusing the Golden Rule with the Royal Law.....Love thy Neighbor as thyself It is the Golden Rule: Do Unto Others - not do unto self. As you would have them do unto you - how can the commit suicide of you??? If I want to kill myself that does not mean that I want someone else to kill me or i am now justified in killing anyone else. On the other hand...If I was a murderer or soldier then I would find it justifiable for someone else to kill me. Sexual Intercouse is mutual.....be it man and woman, woman and woman or man and man. They have stood the test of Time Place and Culture...are there exceptions - certainly if look at in part but not in whole. I quote: Not trying to see them prance off arm-n-arm with some greasy haired White or "almost" White dude, talking about how "in love" they are with eachother. Then we agree to disagree. Of course they had a Choice. Every Choice is impacted by the Influences in your Environment Usually the easiest Choice to take is One that has the least amount of Barriers to Fulfillment Those decisions are to be made by bodies in the know.... I think it should be part of a Health Program. How much money....Whatever is available or affordable. Many have become fine upstanding contributing members of their communities... It is how you treat the Poor Sick and Neglected among us that is the true measure of a community. "A Nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members" You are entitled to your opinion I do not recall Him getting a higher position or being elevated....Celebrated yes. The Older and faithful son inherited all that the father has..
  25. Fear is a necessary emotion when in danger.....but a dangerous and destructive emotion when the danger is imaginary. Jealousy is worst than fear, in that you want to deny others what you want for yourself. Denial of Choice in this sense is denial of Agency In that case what makes you any different from an individual who would enslave another purely on the basis of Sex ? Your use of the word "protection" is similar to the Enslavers use of the word to "civilize and or christianize" ..... a euphemism for them to Control and Use(abuse). If women have no Agency over Themselves....they are Property They are members or part of a community...Women are not Possessions of the Community It is also True Whichever way the point is ...Miscegenation Laws rules and statues failed The primary purpose of Miscegenation Laws was to keep (especially) Black men and white women from Marrying and cohabiting.....it failed. You are conflating the issues....who runs the country is mainly a function of Economics and Politics. We are talking about a Social Issue....Whether or not two individuals of different race/ethnicity have the Right to marry date or have sex . No....You Guide and advise you in no way Control or restrict people you love....their lives are their own. Children are a different matter...as they are a part of a household some rights are ceded in exchange for their welfare (support). No I post that to show that all the laws against miscegenation between blacks and whites ....had the opposite effect. Yes... Again you are confounding issues....Are you married to every black woman? Marriage is a contract and the very word husband dictates the terms of which you speak... It all comes back to the Golden Rule of...... do unto others as you would have then do unto you Ephesians 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 11 Corinthians 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. That is the main one.....all else is maladaptation and dysfunction in response to Racism. Yes by people who believe as you do....who believe it is ok to deny individuals their humanity according to their sex. Good....Then realize that Sexism and Racism is the Same in its effects - Oppressive. Again I think we start by trying to help all, according to the availability of resources - triage. Environment often acts as a Force and Pressure on many who see limited Options.... Readily available mind numbing drugs and or alcohol is one avenue of escape...as it is easily accessible. Lack of proper coping skills or training lead many to do that which is easiest given tools available and or accessible. Yes those are most in need and pose the greatest threat to our community.....Malcolm X was once one of them The Shepherd leaves the flock and goes in search of the lost sheep....The Prodigal son returns.
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