aka Contrarian

Men are also who destroy what they build. So this neutralizes their accomplishments, reducing this to a brain vs brawn proposition.

As a member of the US Navy during WW2, my brother served aboard the USS Mason a destroyer escort which was the only naval vessel during this war that was manned by an all-black crew; kinda like a sea -going version of the Tuskeegee airmen. He and his shipmates served honorably aboard this ship, risking their lives in the rough seas of the North Atlantic in action against the Germans, going unrecognized for their valor. Finally, 50 years later, President Bill Clinton invited all the USS Mason survivors to Washington DC to be honored in a ceremony where they received special medals commemorating their bravery. I was 8 years old when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, setting off America's entry into WW2 but I'll never forget that December day. There was no TV back in 1941 but this news was blasting on every radio station!

Cleopatria ruled in Egypt. Queen Elizabeth the first, ruled England. Golda Meir was Israel's first head of State, Angela Merkel just retired as Germany's Chancellor, Mexico recently elected its first women president (who just told Trump to go f--k himself.) Women are are often the power behind the throne. When President Woodrow Wilson suffered a stroke, his wife was secretly running the country. Both Roosevelt and Truman regularly relied on their wives for advice. Hillary Clinton was thought of as her husband's co-president. Women have proven themselves as capable leaders. But we know that. Under the leadership of men, is why the world is in such terrible shape. That blubbering excuse for a man is about to turn America into a dictatorship.

@richardmurrayI'm sure you're familiar with the black female author Zane who specializes in erotica and whose book, a best seller entitled "Addicted" detailed the sexual escapades of its black female protagonist . Zane has her own publishing company and even went on to produce a black soft porn TV series called The Sex Chronicals. I used to watch it because I found people having sex in almost every scene amusing. I was in my 60s by the time porn came into its heyday on videos and TV. At some point checking it out became boring to me; too repetitive. I didn't get any vicarious thrills from watching it. Sex toys were more interesting.

I guess Stefan put us down after I made the very uncalled for remark about him "taking himself too seriously". (As if that made him unique on this forum. Lol) I'd have been interested in hearing his take on why the Democrats lost the election because he was a genuine card-carrying Democrat, not someone calling themself an Independent, while bad mouthing both parties. But, Stefan has apparently moved on, leaving us to deal with that right wing dyed in the wool Republican, nels. I've always felt that nobody talks any worse about black folks than other black folks. You guys really bore that sentiment out. The only people you hold in lower regard are white supremists who say the same things that you say about wayward niggas. This whole scenario is why the much sought-after black unity is so elusive. Too much excess baggage. Obviously, the black herd needs thinning. Somebody once shared an opinion with me, insisting that there are only a certain amount of souls in the "Keep" and that the black underclass is so prolific, they've used up the available supply so there's nothing left but a bunch of aimless rogue souls loitering around, and they are who are snatching up and invading the bodies of all the excess newborns the baby mama culture is giving birth to. Of course that's an outrageous theory. Or is it? zzzzzzzzzz

Biden has realized that, when the convicted felon who is now the president-elect with plans to weaponize the presidency, goes "low," you cannot go "high" if you want to survive. Trump appointees were set to crucify Hunter Biden when they took office. Father rescues son. Trump has made it OK for Presidents to be corrupt. That's what he does. He enables the worst in people. And instead of trying to bring the country together, his only focus is getting even with his enemies. I despise him.

'Glad you guys don't take me too seriously. Consider the source of what I post in the wee small of the hours of the night when I'm either waking up - or falling off to sleep...

I think me and a lot of others are aliens, descendants of life forms transported to Earth by asteroids and comets from outer space. We are the15 percent of the population with the O negative blood type that science can't figure out. I've never felt comfortable on Earth or at home in America. I'm like a stranger in a strange land. Too many odd scenes appear before me when I close my eyes. And my tinntinitus sounds like the sound of the wind whistling. My dreams are bizarre and very vivid. As a grade schooler, i remember being very excited when reports about "flying saucers" first began appearing in the news. I believed in them! Nobody but an alien would think they were an alien. źzźżzźzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz

Thank you, Mel, for pointing out some very significant things about the dynamics of the election. When it comes to waging a verbal war, I wanna be in the trenches with you! The Bible says something about "reaping what you sow." ( Unless you're the orange teflon Don, I guess.) Black folks still waitin' on Jesus to deliver them. Maybe he didn't get the memo. I'm beginning to suspect God is a Republican, - or that Satan is at the wheel.

It amazes me that you guys still think Blacks have any power left to do or influence anything in America. With the Retrumpicans in control of EVERYTHING, the only thing any of the leaderless black tribes or the demoralized Democrats will be able to do is what the entrenched regime will allow them to do. Pioneer's delusion that America will be what Blacks make it become is beyond ludicrous. Do y'all really think those in power will concede elections to opponents if, indeed, elections are held any more. Do you really think Congress or the Senate backed up by the Supreme Court and Speaker of the House and, if necessary, the Military, not to mention the technology of the shadow dictator, Elon Musk, will pass any legislation that benefits anybody but those already in power? You dreamers seem to be totally oblivious to the reality that Retrumpicans, aided and abetted, by the Ameican Heritsge Foundation, which crafted Project 25, and also got out the vote for tRump, will take over the country. They are organized and they've got the numbers. It will take a revolution to overturn the new Reich. And revolutions take decades to get it together. Am I an alarmist? Time will tell.

Time for the cynical pessimist aka Contrarian to check in. America has not only outgrown itself but it has regressed, becoming a cacaricature and a mockery of the noble high standards it supposedly stands for. With the re-election of the orange buffoon who Sylvester Stallone just referred to as a modern George Wasgington (?), what was destined to happen, is about to happen. A new American zeitgeist is set to begin,the government of which will be a comedic farce with a cast of quacks and shysters and tin soldiers all gathered in the wings, waiting for the curtain to fall on what a Congress of racist misogynistic foundling fathers labeled a "perfect union". And a majority of this country's present population will feel right at home in the emerging fascistic theocracy because it represents who they really are. A bunch of religious hypocrites and patiotic bigots who aren't too smart. What Americans actually are, has caught up with their 250 year old masquerade. Sadly, going up against a Retrumpican Reich which will control all branches of the Government including the Supreme Court and the Armed Forces, will be a formidable task for the Liberal opposition. Free speech may even be punished. Welcome to the Red States of the American Heritage Foundation. Any regrets or apprehensions I had about leaving this life have miraculously disappeared. I'm ready to blow this pop stand.

I disagree with what are the opinions expressed by nels - and pioneer when it comes to America being ready for a female president Imo, Kamala and Hillary were both much more qualified than the lying-ass felonious SOB they lost to. Furthermore, chauvinism of black and brown males and the unacknowledged racism of white middle America played a significant role in Kamala's loss. Ready for a black female president, hell. Plus, Kamala's black father and her choice of college and sorority legitimize her right to self-identify herself as a black woman. She's certainly not white. nels doesn't have an objective bone in his body. Everything he says is inspired by his hate for Democrats and underscored by his slavish devotion to Retrumpicans. He expects everthing he utters to be accepted as the gospel truth. In another post, he disputes the impression of Kamala appearing confident in defeat, by claiming she is, instead, a "basket case", something we are supposed to believe because - HE says it. He's full of shit turned orange colored by the koolaid served at meetings of the tRump cult.

@ProfDYou answered your own question. The reasons you gave explained why nobody is shaming white women for abandoning Kamala. Because that's the way it's always been; white women play it safe and remain loyal to their racist chauvinistic mates. It's understandable why they'do this rather than embrace feminism. On the other hand, black male Trump supporters are rightfully being cited because they had a chance to advance their race, and they chose to support a convicted felon, and side with their misogynistic, burrito-eatin brothers rather than honor their black sisters and mothers. Fingers could also be pointed at the black females who chose Trump over a woman of color. But their reasons aren't even worthy of being analyzed because they're so catty and petty and down right jealous, - straight outta a gossipy hen session. And Kamala's doing the jobs she was elected to do, made no difference to these treacherous heffas. Alas, for all the metaphysical BS about "karma". Trump's misdeeds have never caught up with him! Instead, in his dotage, he has been rewarded with OMNIPOTENCE, courtesy of an indifferent universe. Piss on amerika. Glad I'm 91, not 19.

@Pioneer1Did you watch Kamala's entire speech? Her defeat was incidental. She focused on what lie ahead, sounding a call to arms to her immense following of women and young people in the audience, passionately urging them to regroup and forge ahead in the battle for full freedom, telling them to never give up on their dreams and goals. Concession speeches are traditionally critiqued by the press, because they are historical and Kamala's is receiving high marks from today's talking heads.

The pundits can and are citing black and brown men as being factors in Kamala's loss. And I agree that those who voted red were "guilty" because a lot of different things contributed to her defeat. For one thing, their preference for tRump bordered on admiration as he took the low ground and crudely disrespected her in his rants, much to their approval. As for the clueless Dems, they misread the white electorate, and underestimated the negative role race still plays among these voters. Then there was the mistake of believing the endorsement of celebrities would bring their fans into the fold and sway the Independents. Instead, it had the opposite effect. "Abortion",by name, should've been absorbed into the "right for a woman to control her own body" phrase because black folks, militant brothas and church goin folks in particular, associate the word abortion with genocide and get a little touchy when it is stridently extolled. Whatever. After watching Kamala's kick-ass dynamic concession speech, I became more impressed with her. But not to the point where I'm revitalized. I'm weary and l'm done. Nor am I of a mind to kiss and make up with Trump supporters. I haven't really mellowed with age or - become patriotic Fuck America.

Did you guys see Kamala's concession speech today? She seemed very comfortable in defeat and confident about the future.

Get real. No way the American people were going to turn around and vote for the black wife of a black man who just served as POTUS for 8 years. You're talking "dynasty"! Besides that, she comes across as a school teacher lecturing to a class room of kids hoping the bell will hurry up and ring. She's uptight and humorless. And sensible enough to not want the job.

@Mzuri: How could anybody be so oblivious when it comes to how ignorant, lascivious, and mentally erratic Donald tRump is? Kamala is flawed but Trump is sn embarrassment, - the personification of everything that besmirches and disgraces the office of POTUS. America should be ashamed of itself. And the American people should be frightened over what this egomanical, pathological liar will turn this country into. And your criticism of this forum is unwarranted. Things aren't any worse than they were when you were here.

Kamala was not the candidate to run against Trump. America is not ready for a black woman president. Americans are showing you what they are. Dems have shown how naive and idealistic they are.

@TroyQuincy's personal life wasn't given a lot of publicity. He was a behind the scenes celebrity. What he produced superceded who he was. His affinity for white women was incidental. No, I never saw him perform live. He didn't do a lot of touring. His forte was actually arranging music for other muscians.

There isn't even a remote likelihood for 2 of the suggested scenarios to take place, - except in a Spike Lee movie. The white establishment would most certainly question what's in it for them if they agreed to putting another tribe in second command? Not only does being the largest minority benefit Hispanics, they also have a good work ethic. Asians are disciplined and highly professional. Blacks? They're splintered and checkered and volatile. Being good athletes and more sexually impressive aren't beneficial enough to make the cut. Would their mounting an armed challenge to the Establishent prove successful? Puleeze. The logistics involved in pulling off such an operation are overwhelming. Can we come down to earth here?Other than natural selection and survival of the fittest, there is no grand plan. Or master manipulator when it comes to the inhabitants of this miniscule star in a giant galaxy.Some breeds evolved into winners, others into also-rans. The pecking order is firmly entrenched. Randomness does keep individual achievement in the mix. Reality is a bitch. Pay me no mind.This election has me in a particularly pessimistic mood. >Sigh<. I'm depressed.

I was always in sync with "Q" because we're the same age and from the same place. But now he gets to rest in peace, while I continue to exist amidst turmoil. And the beat goes on...

@Jesus - oops i mean pioneer.Blah, blah, blah.Why would I post a picture of me unless it was by mistake.while trying to post one of the son of God who you think is your alter-ego? But don't bother to answer because you seldom know what you're talking about. Thinking you know the true nature of death is just the latest example of your know-it-all- delusions. I am grateful, however, that you didn't cloud that issue with a lot of hot air the way you usually do. źzzzzzzzzzzzz

What picture?