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Pioneer there are different levels of ownership.

Dad Daddy Pop Pops Daddy Poppie Pa are all synonymous with father. There's an implied affection because of informality. If the young child is calling his parent father this implies formality and perhaps a lack of warmth or emotion. Big Daddy, Sugar Daddy, Big Poppa, Daddy O, Dads Da. The following were movie which ones do you think were mire formal . Poppie Da Big Daddy The Good Father Like a Lady of the Night.

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There's no place for name calling. My apologies.

Interested in hearing who is Black or what does it mean to say someone isn't Black.

Listening to someone doesn't mean they felt that you heard them.

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. No clearly you have issues with my positions and style. The only thing i can say is listen. And find people who can hear you.

Troy maybe you need some strong Black Men to give you some perspective.

Using that logic so was Slavery Industrial Complex or SIC. Since African Americans are descendants of people who were enslaved and slavers Culture outlives it's progenitors.

Troy are you kidding. You said the article was bs and not true. That is vastly different than saying you disagree. You refused to acknowledge that Black Women feel unprotected by Black Men. I suggested asking women and everyone else what they thought. To listen and understand a position that differs from your own. You seem to conflate issues. I heard a critique from Mel and Cynique about a global dynamic yiu heard a personal criticism. You ask if i spend time with groups of Black. Whuch implies I am not qualified to ask a question or have an opinion. The irony is that yiu refuse to accept other opinion's based on a really small sample of the wrong group. Agaib ir sounds like you are in a bubble and have an inability to accept divergent opinions. Then you say you agree with the article. In your job you talk to a lot of Black Women try listening. If you want the answer about the circles i ran and run with message me.

Was I equating girls with women I didn't understand thus Mel until I talked with my partner. Would it be an insult if I called them children. No offense meant to women. @Mel Hopkins did you feel I was speaking for you. I hadn't thought so but Troy seems ti think so. Si i figured i would ask you.

Hey fellows if your women says that you did something that hurt her what's the appropriate response. No i didn't, you need stop listening to your girlfriends and that feminist bullshit. I take good care of you. No you listen to understand the problem. Do you think its manly to not man up and say i see your point. Sometimes its not about the answers but listening to the question. Troy I love the work that you do and how you want to make the world better. I know that you are not the type of man to disrespect women. But you can be condescending and dismissive. Mel said you took away her agency. That shouldn't be a discussion about you saying you didnt. Without understanding why she said what she said. Nubian a dialogue implies an exchange of ideas. What ideas did you reveive from Mel. Agreement and acknowledgement are different. Women are saying Black don't have their back. This strikes me as a an individual and collective statement. Before you say Black Men protect women ask the women you know and ask them why they answered the way they did. Not liking the answers doesn't invalidate the response. But not listening is an invalidation.

That may be the honest and depressing exchange I have witness. Between Black Men and Women.

Nubian the reverse is interesting. If Black Men believe they are defending Black Women but are not. How do yiu change that?

Listening is important as well.

I made a statement, so can you inform me what question you thought i asked. The second half sound like you're speaking for women. Yes Troy you are so right. (sarcasm)

http://radio.wosu.org/post/ohio-legislature-considers-total-abortion-ban Love the Handmaiden's Tale reference.

Troy you have the situation in reverse. I at no point am speaking for Black Women. What I said was listen to the perspective of Mel and Cynique. There's a difference between disagreement and invalidation. Read the next sentence carefully and out loud. Mel and Cynique are saying Black Men don't defend Black Women. How can you say their experience is wrong. That is not respecting their position. It doesn't mean that you are disrespecting them or women. I know you and that's not your intention. However i feel your statements lack sensitivity. Zoom out for a moment the question is do Black Men defend Black Women. Both I and the author think not. You say yes, Mel and Cynique think not. The only position I can take is either no. Or I don't know because I don't know how any women feel. Years ago there was a debate about whether the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians name and mascot were offensive. Some said yes others said no. One player said it doesn't matter what I think. If one Native American thinks it is offensive then it is offensive. I am going to post another women's issue that White men are deciding in a separate post.

No the take away is you can't hear what women are saying. Its like white people not understanding racism because it doesn't affect them. Do you respect the women in this forum enough to actually listen and absorb what they are saying. No brother the fault is on your side.

I am afraid that you atr wrong. Buy a vowel. Or you a Nubian can keep patting each other on the back. And Black Males who were slaves abused women. Can either of you two spin that one. I actually commented on Nubian rescuing sisters from brothers. Are yiubyjay myopic that you didn't see thst response or do you only read posts in which you're tagged

Girls this is an embarrassment. I am done. Try and convince Mel and Cynique. You don't defend what you don't respect. That may not apply to you, but clearly you're in the minority.

You are projecting a fantasy that doesn't match anyone's experience. How many Black Men defended the Black Women that Trump disrespected. 0.

Rap was never friendly to women in its 41 years. It has always been overwhelming male. It shaoes behaviour then amd now. Before rap was mainstream women where either invisible or prizes. Was it different where you grew up. How many all female crews were there in your hood. Cause inyhe Bronx there was Lisa Lee and Sha Rock. No female crews or female DJ in the first 10 years or so. There were a couple of Roxanne's.

So you have defended Black Women that were being attacked by Black Men. We are in serous trouble.

@NubianFellow can yiu give me an example when yiu have seen a Black Man defend a Black women. Not theory or excuses or rationalisations. Just an example that you witnessed. We can't even acknowledge the problem. What an embarrassment.