Delano

So knowledge is lower than power. Which is better to have knowledge with no hope of getting power. Or having power with no hope of getting knowledge.

I would have past belief below knowledge but based on this conversation. I place belief over power, and power of knowledge.

A belief system can make you immune to power plays at least on the mental and emotional levels.

Power can be used to restrict access to knowledge

Plus it could also be that power is a perception. The powerful can reward you or punish you. Which is only effective if you value what they can give or remove  more than what you have inside.

Power beliefs and knowledge all have levels. George Foreman has more power than Muhammad Ali. But Ali had more knowledge about boxing.

In a fight technique and speed beat power. Bruce Lee Vs Chuck Norris.

On 7/1/2023 at 1:28 AM, frankster said:

Hence the reason why I could not contextualize.

Not all powers are rpoweful. Omnipotence is all powerful. So power need not be fully potent it can be partial or weak. Instead of powerful you can substitute forceful.

It is was and is a difficult question for me to phrase.

6 hours ago, Cynique said:

As y'all may or may not know, I am fascinated with language and semantics which is why I pose the question:  Is knowledge synonymous with truth? 

What is known could be false or incomplete.

3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

I check the ancient scriptures and came to this conclusion. 

Isn't this more akin to belief. The base that most people have including scientist is a set of beliefs about the world. If this were not true there would be no argument since it is self  evident. However I don't think\believe that there are no objective facts. If a fact changes over time then it is not objective. At least in my mind

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

[2] Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, [3] According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:... 2 PETER 1:2.

Can you acquire this knowledge without first believing in God/

16 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

So what's the most powerful? ACTION.

What about introspection. And the stillness of meditation?

If knowledge gives you more power than power. Then power rates higher. Using your example knowledge is the interim step to the goal of getting power.

So knowledge is lower than power. Which is better to have knowledge with no hope of getting power. Or having power with no hope of getting knowledge.

I would have past belief below knowledge but based on this conversation. I place belief over power, and power of knowledge.

A belief system can make you immune to power plays at least on the mental and emotional levels.

Power can be used to restrict access to knowledge

Plus it could also be that power is a perception. The powerful can reward you or punish you. Which is only effective if you value what they can give or remove  more than what you have inside.

I played with it a bit last year. Astrologers also feel that it will revolutionise the field. Once again I am in opposition to the popular opinion.

@Troy you're video was the best click bait I've come across.

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

Power. It attracts knowledge and everything else. Exhibit A-dictatorships. 

How do coups factor in that equation?

Does it change with scope: personally, familialy, associatively, communally, regionally, nationally, internationally and globally?

14 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@Delano cool and thanks for sharing

Thanks for asking

I celebrated it having drinks with a group of 

Astrologers. We talked about free will. I was the lone voice saying it doesn't exist. Believing in the efficacy of Astrology is incompatible with the belief in free will. One Astrologer was somewhat swayed by my argument.

14 hours ago, frankster said:

Africans claim that there is an entity called consciousness that is not influenced by space and time and exists in living and non-living beings and in a space less and timeless dimension.....

Western science calls this non local space and nonlocal time.

There is no agenda to the conversation, the conversation isn't a means of extraction. It is the ends.

I think we have exhausted this particular...

Thanks it means we are approaching the conjunction of two great ages.

Thanks again, I thoroughly enjoyed the clip.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's foreign to YOU too.....as you claim that you have conversations and interactions to exchange ideas.
Sounds like part of an "agenda" to me....lol.

I am interested in conversation that is my agenda. Which is obvious to most people. 

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Lol.......wait until you find out "she" is actually a HE

I am interested in conversation so a person sexual orientation or identity is not an issue.

It may be a foreign concept to you. To have a conversation or interaction without an agenda. 

On 5/31/2023 at 5:37 AM, Dee Miller said:

  What does it say about someone like me who wants to ride the train in peace with my random thoughts? 

I have no idea. Although I was talking with another commuter. And she invited me to her free Burlesque show .

Thanks will listen to the rest later.

I did a study of planetary positions for 2160 years taken at 72 year intervals. Using the Tropical Zodiac and precession. I found a correlation between the Moon's position and Neptune. Although I don't isye the constellations nor do I use fixed stars 

On 6/5/2023 at 1:35 PM, frankster said:

The whole topic is too deep for me....

To me it appears that you are in your element. I enjoy your responses 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I say that this flower is tilted to the right.
And when we begin observing it...it starts tilting to the left-
Yes, it moved.
It's now tilting left.
However the FACT/TRUTH was it was tilting to the right, and this lines up perfectly with my observation at THAT time.

That may only be true from your perspective. This is an instance where being able to think conceptually is useful. Although you are certain that you are right consider the possibility that you are mistaken. And there are conditions that you haven't factored into your assumptions. Let it percolate for a few days a d key me know what you think.

@frankster "We are sentenced by our convictions."

Delano Strachen 

On 6/2/2023 at 5:13 AM, frankster said:

The Truth is What you are Convicted of........ weight in a balance against the Race Mind (Collective Unconscious)

 

On 6/2/2023 at 5:13 AM, frankster said:

If  we are One then somewhere in You....... you know it's a lie - Tells (Microexpression).

Can you elaborate?

2 hours ago, Dee Miller said:

When it comes to ANYBODY acknowledging & commenting about me reading a book in public....REALLY? 

Frfr I don't push it though. If it's an author I know I'll suggest other books they may also find interesting. t's only in the last third of my life that I started talking to strangers. Every once and a while it doesn't work or I get a grumpy response. Most people like talking about themselves, that has been my experince for the last two decades, with a few exceptions. 

I am not certain that people are reading a book on their phone. I haven't seen that many tablets on public transport.