Pioneer1

Troy
 

I'm glad to hear that your friend is on the mend.
He's a doctor so I guess he's on the front lines up there in the NYC.

Man, where did you choose to move to.....the Everglades rain forest?
It looks like your room is right on the edge of a swamp.....lol.

Aren't you afraid to live so close to large bodies of water with all those hurricanes and shit Florida has?


 

Will this prompt Americans to fight stop a system that increase wealthy inequality and has millions without health insurance?

It depends on WHICH Americans you speak of.

Most AfroAmerican and Latino Americans and a few Caucasians want Universal Healthcare where everyone can get quality healthcare for free. But most Caucasian Americans only want it if ONLY THEY can get quality healthcare for free.
If other's can also benefit from it.....well....most of them would rather see things stay as they are.

This is the main reason why most European nations have universal healthcare and America doesn't.  In America, too many people of color stand to benefit and that's something most Caucasians do not want.

Now, I know you don't believe what I just typed but......
As evidence of what I just said, after decades of socialized medicine.... look at how many European nations are NOW questioning their healthcare system, cutting back funding for it, and openly questioning whether or not they should start privatizing it again.
This change of mind is a direct result of the recent influx of African and Arab immigrants.
 

Many poor primary school children have simply "disappeared" from the school system

At the risk of sounding ignorant to you, this may not NECESSARILY be a bad thing.

Except for a minority of students, what the hell good is the current school system for most AfroAmerican children anyway?

Seriously....
What are most of them really learning in these public schools?
Except how to cross-gender dress , fight in the bathrooms, and smoke weed.

Again, there are exceptions and there are many Black students who do good in school and move on to live successful lives in great occupations (like yourself), but that still is the MINORITY. 

Probably less than 20% move on to successful well paying careers.  The MAJORITY of Black students....who don't drop out first...end up working on low wage menial jobs that they really don't like.

A century ago Black people with less than an 8th grade education had FAR MORE BUSINESSES, FARMS, PROPERTY AND OTHER WEALTH to show for themselves than most highschool graduates today.

If the more so-called "education" our people get the less businesses and land they have then perhaps school is the PROBLEM.

I'm sorry but I'm a little disappointed in the video.

I got all fixed up to see a sista in some lingerie (that's what I was promised) and all I saw in that video was a sista trying on short robes and a tracksuit!

If we were in a club, I'd ask for my money back....lol.

It's funny how you said that many Africans love the AfroAmerican dialect.
I've heard many people from around the world including many Carribeans and Latinos say the same thing.....that they love the way AfroAmericans talk.
Apparently we also have a unique "walk" too, because I've heard on many occasions that even when we're among other Black people in foreign nations, "American Blacks" can be spotted by the way we walk.

Now, from a scientific point of view, most people find "accents" sexually attractive.
And there's a reason why.......

Troy

See that is the faliacy; it is not the same group of people. Just because they share the same complextion does not make them the same

You obviously don't believe in re-incarnation nor the concept of ancestral memory.

Even if you don't want to believe that many of them actually ARE the same people re-incarnated, you should still realize that the very INSTITUTIONS that they founded are still being used by their progeny to maintain their oppressive and racist policies.

Lions have a centuries old history of attacking and killing human beings.
I'm sure you're not foolish enough to step into a cage with one, talking about some.....

"Look here mayne.....I ain't prejudice!
I KNOW all lions ain't the same!
I ain't gonna judge you based on what yo daddy did!"

Over the past few days we've seen Caucasians on both sides of the political aisle PRETEND to fight and argue with eachother over when America should be "re-opened".   Trump and the Republicans are PRETENDING that they want to hurry up and open the businesses back up and get the people back to work.
They really DON'T want that to happen, but why are they saying it?
Because they know it's NOT going to happen anytime soon...but it makes them look good and popular with the people if they PRETEND to be on our side and want the restrictions eased.


You must remember that Neely Fuller Jr. has warned us for years that White Supremacists have learned to play BOTH SIDES of the argument in order to create confusion and maintain power.

Just like a man comes along and poisons you and his brother comes along an hour later to sell you the antidote (because they're both working together)....one group locks the nation down and the other group comes along and pretends to be with "the people" and demand the restrictions be eased. Meanwhile the laws and restrictions stay in place.

Bill Clinton used to make an ugly face and say, "I feeeeel yure pain"

Del

Yeah I remember you making a prediction, but remind me again as to EXACTLY what the prediction was so I can respond to it. I can tell you now that I didn't stop working in December.
 

Given the fact that I didn't go to college, I don't care too much for digging up references to back up everything I say. I know it makes things look more credible, but it seems to take away from the "flow" if you know what I mean. But as for the reasons for my statements:

Ancient India was originally inhabited by Black Asians called Dravidians but a group of Caucasians called Aryans invaded the land and enslaved some of them, killed some of them, and drove the others south into southern India.
The Black Dravidians had many languages AND writing systems; but the Aryan Caucasians had only one...Sanscrit. And it was only ORAL and not written down. It didn't have a written form until the Persians and Arabs invaded India and then the Aryans adopted the Persian/Arabic alphabets and writing system to represent Sanscrit.


South Indian Astrology is much older because the society itself is much older. Again, the southern Indians are the Black Dravidians who were driven out of the north by the Caucasian Aryans. While the Aryans of northern India can't trace their history beyond 6,000 years ago the Black Dravidians are MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of years old and they say this in their ancient writings. They've been studying the stars and planets for millions if not billions of years and this makes them more accurate.

I mentioned to you before in another thread about the Naadi palm leaves. You should do some research on them and how accurate they are.  Much of the history and FUTURE of this planet was already written thousands of years ago.
 

1 hour ago, Delano said:

Pioneer can you post either references or reasons for your two statements to me.

Just take my word for it......I wouldn't tell ya wrong

Troy

Again I can't imagine the poster of the comment above, which was never displayed on this site, did this for fun -- unless they get their kicks making more work for me...

Look at your words: YOU can't imagine.
The reason YOU can't imagne it is because YOU aren't a White Supremacist and don't think like them.

Again, if you don't understand them and how they think you will be confused and constantly baffled at what they do and why they do it.
 

Chev

Why would this be FUN to them? This is a part that I don't understand.

Exactly!
You don't understand White Supremacy....what it is....or how it works!
And because you don't, you don't understand how it could be fun to them.

But you should accept it as a fact anyway whether you understand it or not, because accepting this will keep you safe!

I don't think so. First we need to understand, at least partly, their MOTIVATION for racism and hatred of Black people

No. Pioneer, again, as you did state about Black people; INTENT.

If, as you say, racist people do it out of FUN and JUST LOVE TO STALK AND INFLICT PAIN, then you have NOT explained their deeper MOTIVATION and intentions based on something that makes them go after BLACK PEOPLE.

No, my dear sister, you have it the other way around.
You must first accept that fact that it IS FUN to them and that they seek enjoyment out of hunting and hurting people of color.....THEN you can move on to the "why".

Think of it kind of like an alcoholic in an AA meeting and how they must first acknowledge that they are an alcohol BEFORE they can begin to discover why and get the help they need.

But to answer your questions about the motivation......
There are 2 motivating factors as to why racists hate and enjoy harming people of color:

1. As you mentioned about the Superiority Complex above, most Caucasians have been raised with a sense of superiority and when they encounters incidents in life that contradict this belief they HATE it and often deny it or even have a violent reaction to it.

2. Fear of genetic annihilation.
Most racists fear that mixing with people of color will make them go extinct so they consciously and subconsciously design ways to prevent their race from being mixed with people of color  AND/OR lower the numbers of other races through war, genocide, ethnic cleansing, ect....


 

Chev

And, yes, the photos that you posted absolutely shows certain 'archaic' Neanderthal traits!!!--But I would never say that anyone can be Neanderthal completely because we are all so very intemixed.

I understand what you're saying, but Neanderthal isn't actually a species.
It's simply the modern scientific label for a group of malformed Caucasians.

I know science CALLS them a species, but they are just a group of Caucasians who had so degenerated from living a savage life and breeding among eachother in that condition that it became part of their genetics.

 

You 'historical Musa' of Kemet is dated to be the very same time period as KEMET records are extremely detailed

Oh, so you believe and agree that they are both talking of the same individual?
 

Troy

Because they have dug up fossils and mapped the Neanderthal DNA.

That's not proof, that's evidence.
Not that I disagree with the premise....just pointing out the difference.


Again, your observations are not a DNA test Besides these guy are not Neanderthals. I suspect you would not dare say it to their faces

I would if I was packing that heat....lol.

Chev

You're right, the mimicking goes both ways.
I also like listening to Michael McDonald and the Doobie Brothers myself.
However I do recognize that much of their fame comes from their ability to imitate "Black" music.

On the other hand, if Black people that wear blonde hair want to do it to look good and see this as a positive aspect of many White people, then that shouldn't be looked at as if it is a bad thing, but when it is done due to Black-Self-Hatred, then that is the problem.

And that IS the problem, it's done out of self-hatred.

When Caucasians imitate Black people it's done for strategic purposes. To "steal" the culture and claim it as their own. They aren't trying to BE Black....just confiscate the ideas.
But when most Black people try to imitate Caucasians it's in an effort to actually BECOME them.

Blonde hair is genetically recessive. The only reason most AfroAmericans desire to have it is NOT because it's stronger or naturally looks better than black hair, but because it's a predominately Caucasian trait and they feel it makes them look more Caucasian.

Troy

No. That is a far fetched notion borne out of a deep seated distrust of white people. As a Black man I get it, I just don't agree with it. You'll call it conditioning, I'll call it common sense.

In other words........

You're saying that to trust the SAME group of people who were responsible for deliberately giving Native Americans blankets with the Small Pox virus to kill them off is common sense, and to  NOT trust them is far fetched and irrational?

And you're also saying that to trust the SAME group of people who were responsibly for deliberately giving AfroAmerican men syphilis (oh...I'm sorry....I guess the official story NOW is that they didn't actually GIVE them  "wink wink"  syphilis but just monitored those who already had it....I think that's the official story today) to spread to their women and children and the rest of the community is common sense and to NOT trust people who did that is far fetched and irrational?



Ooookay, is THAT what you're trying desperately to get me to understand, Troy?

Lol....
That I should put history to the side and trust those with a history of deceptively harming our people?

Chev


Also, a Pastor years back came from Trinidad and Tobago, his wife was almost black skinned and she and one of her daughters had bone straight hair.

This could be because there are a LOT of East Indians (Dravidians) in Trinidad, Tobago, and Guyana South America!
The English brought them in to be slaves and work the land along with the Africans and a lot of people don't know this.
Many of those dark skinned people in South America and places like Trinidad are actually not African descent but Indian descent.

The British enslaved both Africans AND Indians.

 

I the Pow wows I have been to, these natives are like--BLACK!!!-- this Virginian tribe, Man! I couldn't believe it! They were much darker than me and bone straight hair.

There are 2 reasons for this:

1. Black people have been coming to the Americas for CENTURIES before Columbus and many Africans were already here mixing in with the Indians, so ofcourse you will see some people who are predominately Indian with African traits among them. This existed centuries before Columbus. But that doesn't mean that Native Americans are Black. It simply means they have trace amounts of Black (African) Ancestry from those Africans who had been coming over for centuries.

2. Most people aren't used to seeing REAL Native Americans.
Most REAL Native Americans (meaning those not mixed with Caucasians) are DARK BROWN in color; not tan or yellow or pale or even light brown.

They are DARK BROWN with bone straight hair and most are that way without a drop of African ancestry in them!

The problem is people are so used to seeing THIS type of "Indian".......


most of whom have a ton of Caucasian ancestry in them and look nothing like the real ones.  So when people finally see a REAL Indian they wanna call them Black.
It's like looking at Michael Jackson and Prince and thinking THEY are what "Black people" look like just because they identify as Black.

No sister, the REAL Native Americans are dark brown in color NATURALLY without having any African ancestry. Some do have African ancestry....but even those who don't are naturally dark brown with bone straight hair.

Ancient people of India, whether Dravidian or not, many of them were Black skinned or brown skinned and they had nappy hair or bone straight hair.

Yes, their hair was MOSTLY straight but they did have SOME (a tiny minority) with kinky hair.
Just like you have some Caucasians with kinky hair.
Most of them have straight hair but some....even unmixed ones....have curly and even kinky hair. No group is 100% of anything.
 

The Dravidians you speak of, are reported to worship a Mother Goddess and I think this is important in understanding their origins and who they intermixed with, especially regarding your statement about Caucasians.

Are you talking about Kali?
In the pre-vedic religion of ancien Indian they worshiped multiple gods and godesses.

As far as who they are mixed with.....
Most Dravidians today are mixed with the Caucasian Aryans who invaded that land thousands of years ago.  Just like most so-called Black Americans are mixed with Caucasians.
 

What other place?

According to NOI theology, they were "made" on the island of Patmos or Pelan which sits in the Mediterranian sea.
According to the Bible John of Revelations had his visions there on that island.
 

The Dravidians are being correlated to ancient Iranians etc.

True
But I'd rather call them the "Elamites".

The Elamites and Sumerians were Black and were in that land before the Iranians/Persians invaded from the north.





Del

At the moment I am trying to teach myself Sanskrit and I have a feeling that there may be some connections to the Egyptians and the Indians.

There are some connections.
Sanskrit in it's written form has been heavily influenced by Arabic, but the original Sanskrit in it's oral form is a very precise language.
It's the language of northern India and according to common history it was introduced to Indian by the Aryans (Caucasians) who invaded the land thousands of years ago.



Although that may be a function of my friendship with two Hindu Astrologers.

You should study SOUTH Indian (Dravidian based) Astrology because it's more accurate and much older.

Troy

Lol, if you don't like the term "authentic Black man" how about ADOS?

American Descendant Of Slavery

Spike looks like the only ADOS on the set.

Troy & Delano

I've learned that the key to stopping Black "brain drain" is to offer our people the PROPER incentive to continue to work for the community.

But you have to be REAL with Black people.
You can't offer them cliches and try to sell them abstract ideas like "honor" and or doing things simply for the greater good of the community and expect them to offer their services and talents.
You have to promise them WEALTH and PROTECTION

For example............
If you have several smart young men who would make great candidates for doctors, don't tell them to just stay in the ghetto and work under dangerous and stressful conditions for the "greater good" of helping their people.
Provide them with nice well furnished apartments or houses!
Provide them with attractive sex partners (multiple if they want) for comfort! 
Provide each of them with a nice car and their choice of foods.
If they like to drink or smoke weed, as long as it doesn't interfere with their work provide them with that also!

I'm not joking!
If you want to keep AfroAmericans from running away from our community then give them what THEY WANT.....not what you THINK they should have or what Caucasians have trained you to believe they should want!

Some people smirk or even frown at the idea of providing  Black men who are servicing the community with the sexual partners they desire for their comfort and show of appreciation.
Why?
Because they have been trained by Caucasian men to THINK that this is wrong.
Many of our people have been trained to believe that men shouldn't want sex and definately shouldn't be polygamous and this attitude not only created unnecessary guilt but it also forces many of our brothers to sneak around and lie about what they're doing.
Many then leave the community so they can go somewhere and get the money and sex they really want without dealing with the judgemental attitude of so many of our people.

It's simple.
If you expect people to perform a great service for you compensate them properly and give them what they ask for and you won't have to worry about them leaving.

Troy


You don't think Black people engage in the same type of behavior online?

No.

You can't just look at the behavior, but also the INTENT behind the behavior.

Original peoples (Africans, Native Americans, Asians, ect...) have a strong sense of justice, so when they fight and argue with eachother it's because they feel slighted or mistreated.  Oh, they may want to hurt others but it's because they felt THEY have been "hurt" or "wronged" in some way by them and wish to get even.

But those racists who troll and lurk predominately Black sights don't feel slighted or victimized, they just love to stalk and inflict pain like predatory animals.

Troy


OK. Why bother conjuring fictional stories that run counter to something that has alresdy been proven

I didn't know the origin of Neanderthals was "proven" or even COULD be "proven" without a time machine.
I thought according to Western science their origin was only THEORIZED based on the archeological evidence they found.

You yourself admit you have no way of KNOWING that they even existed, and you're right.
Neither you nor I KNOW for sure their existence or origin, so how can you suggest it has been proven?




Dude there no basis in objective reality for a so called, "Eastern European branch of the Caucasian race." This is dervied fromracist junk science and is perhaps why you like using Puerto Rican to describe the way some looks.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term slavic

Damn that's a long ass "yes"....lol.

Ok, since you are familiar with the term Slavic and the Slavs, those people are the ones that Western archeologists call "neanderthals" devolved from.
 

Chev

Neanderthals cannot be extinct if scientist report that modern humans are still showing these traits through reproduction.

And they're not!
Just take a look at these people of Slavic origin and tell me what they look like to you.

Also, you're correct that the English word "slave" is rooted in the European term "Slav" or "Slavic" but this is because the Slavic Caucasians were the original slaves.
The Arabs would come up through Turkey and enslave them and bring them back to their various empires and that's where the term "slave" came from.

Okay, this makes no sense, again, because the dates of Moses are completely wrong based on what you are saying

Probably because those dates you're looking at is based on the "Mythological Moses" of the Bible and not the historical Musa (and his crew) who were sent up from Kemet to the savages and show them the light of civilization.

Matter of fact......
Musa (Moses) had such a hard time trying to civilize those cave dwelling minions that sometimes he had to sleep in a ring of fire at night for protection to keep them off!

((Pioneer hears the discussion and pops in the room))

Ahhemm........Perhaps I can be of assistance and answer the question!


 

Why do people invest so much time spreading hate?

Neely Fuller Jr. said....
"If you do not understand racism/white supremacy....what it is and how it works...EVERYTHING else that you understand will only confuse you!"

Troy if you know how white supermacists really thought then you'd know the answer to your question.

They do it for the same reason a racist will join the military and go through weeks of basic training and torture just for an opportunity to kill people of color.

They do it for the same reason a bunch of fat "good ole boys" with plenty of food and resources will get together and go hunting deer to kill and keep their heads as trophies.

They do it because it's FUN to them!

Causing pain (both physical and emotional) is FUN to them!


The first step is to ACCEPT this fact!
This is something many if not most people of color aren't quite ready to accept because as Troy pointed out....THEY don't have a desire to do it.
But it is a fact none the less and it must be accepted before understanding the WHY this fact is.

Troy

Ofcourse Puerto Rican is a nationality and not a race, if you remember I'm the one who usually educated OTHERS on this very matter....lol.
But it's also an ETHNIC GROUP (within an ethnic group) in America now and although their phenotypes run the gamut...the vast majority of Puerto Ricans are mixed race and look like the mixed AfroAmericans of the United States.

Italian is a nationality without a set "look" also, but if you went to Little Italy but come across a group of men all with yellow skin, bone-straight black hair, and slanted eyes and ask them are they Italian....they'll look at you like you're half crazy figuring you should know better.

The fact is, certain "looks" are dominant among certain ethnic groups.
So in THIS CONTEXT, it's safe to say that for this discussion there indeed is a "Puerto Rican look".
 

have you visited PR and ventured beyond the hotel swimming pool? In terms of what you call racial diversity PR is pretty diverse.

Perhaps, or.....
IF YOU visited Puerto Rico, went beyond the tourist areas, and saw a racial diversity of people perhaps THEY TOO like you were from other parts of the world and weren't indeed Puerto Ricans either!

If this were the case, then you may have been assuming Puerto Rico was more racially diverse than it actually was....lol.

 

Chev

Caucasians have always had a "secret love affair" with Black people and our style of behavior, talk, and dress. They love the creativity of Black people (music, art, dance, dress, ect...) but don't like Black people....so they go out of their way to find Caucasians who can imitate our style the best. They know our styles are superior.

This is where your Bee Gees, Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, Michael McDonalds, and Eminems are so popular.

Infact, the entire Pop music genre was built upon Caucasian musicians trying to mimic and style AfroAmerican music.
Pop music is nothing but watered down R&B like "southern food" is watered down Soul Food, lol.

Troy

do you know why there are so many racial classification as Neely Fuller asked?
 

Yes, because the Caucasians who are in charge of the classification system MAKES THEM UP.
They do this for the purposes of CONFUSION.

They also come up with many sexual and gender classifications for the same purpose.




Del

Pioneer if there are more blacks than are needed their unemployment rate goes up.

And if there are more Caucasians than are needed then the incidents of RACISM go up.
Perhaps we should keep that in mind also, lol.

Chev

Yes, it's about population control....not elimination, as Mr. Fuller says towards the end of the clip.
The White Supremacists aren't trying to wipe out Black people for a number of reaons but foremost...they CAN'T do it. Some (like Hitler) have tried over the years and failed before getting past phase one. Meaning, he couldn't even get rid of the "impure whites" in Europe first before making his way over to Africans and Indians and others.

And if they really tried, they almost instinctively know they will end up having to answer to THE ONE WHO created us in the first place!

Speaking of "impure whites"....notice how the virus is ravaging Italy and Spain as compared to northern Europe.

Troy

OK cool, but it is this, justifiable, distrust of the government that makes us so vulnerable to people out to hurt us. It is why 45 is in the white house (about to be elected to a 2nd term) and why people are anti vaccination (willing to bring back measles, whooping cough, polio, smallpox, etc).

Have you considered the possiblity that the same group of people who offer you the VACCINES to measles, whooping cough, polio, ect...are the SAME group of people RESPONSIBLE for introducing these diseases in the first place?


One snake-oil salesman poisons you, and his partner comes along and offers to sell you an antidote....but they're both working together.

Perhaps the aim isn't to "wipe out" the population but to cull it or reduce it for their purposes.

It's what Neely Fuller Jr. calls "population tayloring".
 

Troy

Did you just make this up? You know, this has no basis in reality right?

Pretty much, as I've read no other material stating this in it's entirety.
I reached that conclusion due to deductive reasoning based on multiple sources of information.

Are you familiar with the term "Slavic" or the Slavic (Eastern European) branch of the Caucasian race?




Chev

And, BTW, the term 'EDEN' means 'EARTH'!!!

Actually the English word "Eden" is a mistranslation of the Middle Eastern "Aden".
Aden is a city and gulf on the southern tip of Yemen where it connects to Africa (Somalia to be exact).




The GARDEN of Eden (Garden of Adan) was in Africa.
Most likely when those two land masses were closer together and connected.

Yes, although I don't understand all of what you say here, I absolutely agree in that the incest did bring about the recessive 'archaic' DNA!

And also, that kind of incest did lead to a lot of problems, still present today!

Yes, many of the cases of deformities and mental retardation you see today come about as a result of incest because the genes are too close together.
Fathers having sex with their own daughters and brothers with their own sisters.
And not only do the women refuse to abort the fetuses but many of them refuse to even  report their fathers or brothers to the authorities!

That sickness is a remnant from the cave-man days of the Caucasus when it.....like bestiality (sex with animals)....was practiced heavily before Moses and his men went up to the mountains to stamp it out and civilize the savages.
 

Chev

Did you know the original Amos and Andy weren't even AfroAmerican but actually Caucasian performers who learned to mimic the voices and behaviors of AfroAmericans at that time?



Troy

When I watch that video clip.......
I can't help but to notice that although the show has a "Black vibe" to it, Spike Lee looks to be the ONLY authentic Black man on the set!

Everyone else has that Puerto Rican/mixed look.

Say what you will about the quality of them, but atleast back in the 70s when you had those stereotypical "What's Going Down" and "Jive Sucka" shows on television and radio that catered to the AfroAmerican audience.....the hosts were CLEARLY AfroAmerican.
There was no head scratching and trying to guess their background.

Is. There. Racism. In. The. Coronavirus-. Testing. ?

If Caucasians are the ones doing the testing, ofcourse.

Hell.....
There's gong to be racism in the skateboarding contest at the local park if Caucasians are the ones doing the judging and determines who wins.

It's not the lack of testing that put Black folks behind, it's LOW INTELLIGENCE that has kept and STILL KEEPS so many of our people behind!
People of just AVERAGE (don't have to be genius level) intelligence wouldn't continue to rely on their open enemy to provide healthcare for them decade after decade.  They would know better.

Del

Pioneer the solution is either the end of racism or Black people leave.

The options you offer are as dismally limited as they are impractical, lol.
Neither will happen anytime soon.

How about AfroAmericans taking the chance on building our own healthcare infrastructure in this nation despite any racist opposition that may challenge it?

Troy


but do you think the Brother was an "agent" or not?

Honestly, I don't know.

We know agents DO exist and they DO target Black websites because even the FBI warned about Russian agents  infiltrating facebook and various sites in order to sow distrust and discord inside the American political system.



but I can't be worried about those too stupid too tell the difference between one man's fleeting posts and the 22 year old site the posts appear.

It's not so much about misunderstanding and confusing what one poster says with what you believe or what the site is about.....it's about people who purposely post inflammatory information on the site for the sole purposes of getting it flagged and labled a "hate" site so that there is justification for it to be taken down.

Kind of like how a crooked cop will plant drugs on someone he wants to frame.



Actually @Pioneer1 i though Kareem had turned you

He didn't have to turn me......lol....I didn't have a lot of trust in the system to begin with.

If all of the shit THIS system has done to our people isn't enough to make you distrust them and question everything they put out, certainly Kareem and a few of his posts won't do the job...lol.