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@Troy No I placed the text and source of the poem , no need for that image. Fair enough, e e cummings in my view is making a statement, but if you don't see a statement being made then fair enough. MAybe my assessment is to self contained

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No @Troy no one suggested anything outside Cynique who didn't offer any artistic take, more a snide on its content, which is fine, so I left it alone. yeah the image is the other poem which i placed in the linked status in the original post. But I will ask you, what do you think? I posted this to get replies to the poetry from others, to chime in if needed. Not to be the center of multilog.

@Pioneer1 Thoughtful strategy, from a historical point of view your strategy has already shown its challenge in being implemented in the black community in the usa. While history also shows it is warranted based on the, unbridgeable, positions of various black tribes to each other in the black community in the usa. The challenge is black leaders of most tribes in the black community in the usa historically find it very difficult to tell their tribal members to be about their tribe and stop proselytizing or condemning other tribes and wish the other tribes fare thee well with love. It is not historically unprecedented, but it is rare from the 1500s to today.

@Michel Montvert but your not seeing my point,... I have never joined a gang in the usa and probably, never will. but, some, and I dare say most, people in one see positive value in it, and not all for the same reasons. My point is gangs can change or can have various function. You concur to that. Yes, I didn't say all in a gang want it or desire it or feel everybody should do it, though some do. antisemites. Being jewish is a religious affiliation. in the same way being Christian. But when I speak of phenotypical concerns it is important to say White jews. Because whites jews or not black jews. When I say white or black I am speaking of phenotype or appearance, and specifically or usually skin color. A white person isn't different to me because they are female or jewish or young or latino. Said whites are to me no different than white people who are male, chrsitian , old , anglos. I am negatively prejudiced to whites. Yes I AM. Does this mean I have killed somebody or attacked somebody white? no it does not and no I haven't. Hitler's views on white jews have no bearing on me. I know he thought black people, whether they be yoruba/christian/buddisht/jewish ala falashas of ethiopia/ atheoist/spiritualist/agnostic/ or other were second to whites. Now I do care about that. do you? And your right, nature only knows humans are human. In the same way nature only knows birds are birds. it is humans who make the variances amongst us in the same way the pidgeon in NYC is no where to be found when one of the local eagles is flying above.

@Pioneer1 yes, but the point is , comparing the success of a group with significantly smaller quantity to a group with significantly larger quantity failings in fiscal or structural affairs is unfair. A small group in fiscal capitalism has to be persecuted strongly, meaning through the government, by a larger group to have more failings. In the USA , white jews are not persecuted strongly, thus. Blacks are persecuted strongly in the USA, but, that is all blacks thus, the tinier Nation of islam can operate easier. It is the same like the blacks at martha's vineyard. or the blacks in various pocket communities in the south. In the end, are you suggesting the black community in the USA break up into groups? For , example, the Nation of islam is approximately a floor of 55,000 people. the black population in the usa is approximately a floor of 45,000,000 so if you are saying the black community in the usa needs to break up into more effective groups then based on the nation of islam that is circa one thousand groups. Possible? of course. It is doable. It will be a process. In my mind it isn't complicated to see where to start or the path. But as this is based on your words, what will you do?

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@Michel Montvert Help? well, maybe if the mexican government would help them, they can make more possible. At the base level, they are refuting wanting to live in the USA as their parents and more like their forebears who lost that war at the end. When one loses a war, it is a gang like scenario. Well, the history of gangs is violence. The irish /white jewish/italian mobs mostly terrrorized their own as well, all gangs do The gang is never for the other, but a gathering of those who are not convinced by the system, which doesn't mean all have to be that way. yes, some mexicans kids, think like their parents, like you but my simple point is that those who don't have the right to. The KKK was a gang no different in nature. The KKK killed or hurt many white people as well. Not all gangs have the same level of power. But that connects to outside sources. Maybe the mexican government needs to aid the mexicans gangs more? I know the southern governments aided the KKK. NYC's government was a partner to the irish/white jew/italian gangs. So...

@Michel Montvert fair enough, I want to add one thing, about people who complain about the next generations not continuing the style of life from the prior. ... People of color, defined as non white europeans, in NYC do that often. The children don't comprehend , the children are insulting their forebears. But, are the mexican children joining gangs in california for example, insulting their forebears? when the whites of the USA took the west by defeating mexico in a war? when the whites of the usa took all the land and resources mexicans had owned in that region for themselves? When the whites of the USA had made mexicans in the western states live on fiefdoms controlled by white landlords. In California and western states, what about the following? < https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2060&type=status > And let me not go into indigenous peoples history in the lands that are the western states, let alone the USA itself. The gang desires goes back to the violence of the past, which was 100% warranted. The children don't have to see the world the way we do, nor do they have to want what we want, for many if not most of our forebears didn't want what we want. If Mexico had won that war, the children who are gang members would be the land owners today. @Pioneer1 fair enough, that is your opinion.the black community in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it has always had people who speak like you do. Fully invest in the fiscal capitalism, become an owner, the american dream is yours. But most black people have always refuted it, based on the truth of their lives. Consistency has reason to be, it is never a choice. Yes, many white christians talk about the financial efficiency of white jews, many phong talk about the japanese americans, many black christians or non NOI talk about the financial prudence in the nation of islam as compared to the black tribes outside of it. yes, small subcommunities always are financially better than their larger counterparts in the USA and the reason is simple. The larger your community the more fiscal poor will exist for the nature of fiscal capitalism. Black people in the usa haven't figured out how to make the majority have positive business ownership but neither have whites in the usa so...

@ProfD From the 13 colonies to the war between the states, the only way any Black individual or group escaped slavery in the USA was some form or level of violence. Marches, speeches, court room cases, legislative bodies was unable to free 99% of black people in the USA. Now after the war between the states, laws changed, the situation changed. And thus the needs to results changed. After the war, if you are black and you want to be a citizen of the USA living equal among others after the war between the states, violence isn't necessarily needed depending on the state you live in or the neighbors you have. After the war, if you are black and you want to get revenge on whites, then you need violence. IT is about results professor. I have no problem with nonviolence or violence. the goal is results, and whatever needs to get results is how I view the black community globally. @Chevdove ANyone who says the USA is the same as the prebellum is wrong. Yes, whites still abuse blacks, but blacks are not enslaved as in the past, in the USA. And your right, it isn't the mass scale, though I do think that free black homes in the usa historically don't push violence when things don't go our way the way white homes in the usa traditionally do. In NYC every year I recall at least one black person attacking a white, white jew/white latino/white asian on phenotypical grounds. Comprehend, NYC has a lot of events that don't go publicized. If you live in a small town that has three hundred people, one percent is three. So people will say, if one percent are emitting negativity. this is a small quiet town. but nyc is over eight million people <I daresay ten million but counting the true homeless and similars is...> so one percent of eight million is eighty thousand people. NYC is mostly peaceful but when you compare eighty thousand to three, NYC seems quite violent. Even though it is a small percentage of the populace. So, I can't say how many black people in NYC have emitted violence to whites in phenotypical negative bias, and the news media with "eighty thousand" stories will choose stories of black people unintentionally hurt with firearm use by Blacks or non asians attacking asians or blacks attacking white jews over black people attacking whites or blacks being attacked by nonblacks for phenotypical negative bias. Well yeah NYC is full of immigrants, she can say she comes from cameroon, she doesn't ok. I can tell you, people who actually are raised in Africa are different than those raised in the USA. And the proof is modern immigrants from Africa themselves. I Can tell you , many parents from Africa recently, have told me how they don't comprehend these kids in the usa, many. And don't assume about her personal life, in my experience, many parents, not most, from Africa are not as supportive as you suggest. They cloth and feed but it isn't as supportive as you suggest. But the USA has always had black people fed up in it, always. And, the reasons should be common knowledge. Black people can argue, how to react to negativity in the USA but I think that is a dysfunctional argument. In all earnest, she needed to leave the USA. That was the real answer for her. ... As I tell all peoples, from various places, if you are unhappy where you live ,and you don't want violence at some point you need to leave. Cause how long can you be unhappy in a place nonviolently while not enslaved? Not forever. Not till you die.

@Michel Montvert I am not pessimistic but I have come to accept the full spectrum of positions from individuals in the black community. I rather tell any black person how their position can work or be bettered. which I have done. I have been fortunate to know all sorts of black people, from people you will deem part of the multiracial right thinking to those you will deem unconscious asleep black folk. I don't knock any of their positions because in my mind, they all have value. The black experience in the USA is full spectrum, nothing is unwarranted by Black people, and Black people in the past, our ancestors, have been everything in relations to the usa or the white people in it. I rather not criminalize any black folk, even though I opposed the DC Snipers activities as well as Obama's elected tenure from illinois states senate to president, I comprehend both. My comment below to ProfD is another prime example. I don't need any black person's mind to change. @ProfD well, fair enough, I do not concur. And as always in this forum I have no interest in changing minds. ... But, your position continues one of the great dysfunctions in the black community in the USA. from the USA's beginning and even in the 13 colonies of britian it was from, a small perentage of Black people thought like you and they had no bridge possible with the majority of black people who didn't. Even though today percentages have changed the bridge is still impossible but the two sides are still valid.

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@Michel Montvert I am not surprised because, the history of black peoples relationship to whites in the 13 colonies and then the usa from said 13 colonies went from an overwhelming majority , circa ninety five percent, who hated the usa side whites to a plurality in modernity who are a blend of pro usa pro white anti usa anti white and others. The reason for the plurality in modernity is not just whites, it is black people as well. Many black people underrate how the circa four percent of blacks who supported the creation of the usa side living positively with whites had members who worked very hard in the black community to their cause. I am not saying right or wrong but it is historical fact. Your second paragraph relate to my first reply. The black community went from a standard of hate against whites plus the usa. Didn't need a cult. If anything the cult in the black community was the cult of pro usa the cult of interracial peaceful living that became larger and larger and larger into the modern black community today. James baldwin said it best himself, his father hated whites, the whole black church did. They didn't see an interracial peaceful living. They couldn't bend to it. going back to that cult that baldwin was a partial member of. Well... outside of human beings stop being human. The answer is simple, black people , as shirley chisholm said, must involve ourselves in business ownership at a very very high quantity. I concur to her. In fiscal capitalism, owning is key. Yes, government can massage business, but that is a far harder thing than simply owning. It goes to women as well. Own and you control, the overseer government model takes a long time @ProfD dueling used to be legal in the usa, and is still legal in some parts of humanity today. Your position has one flaw, that is what war is for:) WAr is not evil, it serves a function as vital as peace. The day humanity has no violence in it, is the day, humanity is enslaved to something that is forcing it to be inhuman

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In my historical assessment of black people this is common among black people. Some black people even before the war between the states, just attacked white people. we forget how many slave revolts failed:) IT is more common than black people in the USA like to admit for a black person to be fed up and go the violent route. No entitlement. And my last support is that the majority of black people in all the tribes <DOS/JAmacian/Ethiopian> in the Black COmmunity in the USA accept abuse from the white system. But, there are always those black folk who do this. I don't see entitlement just common expenctancy

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@Pioneer1 good point, nyc is a foreign land, a city of over 8 million people is a country in truth. And thus foreign from any other city on many grounds. Yes about caterin but remember to say, the caterin isn't a matter of choice. The white community started the usa, controls the USA, it isn't like the black community had lost power , we started in the USA in the same state before it, which was enslaved, circa 90%. You make the following points 1. the black community lacks unity in NYC or in the usa in general 2. Black Descended of enslaved have dropped the ball and other tribes in the black village from caribbean or africa have not dropped the ball as much 3. black carribbean or african tribes fuel success in modernity 4. most black people who are seen in labors are from black tribes from the caribbean or africa 5. the black tribes from caribbean or africa made the environment for success or earned success through the white gauntlet. My replies 1. black people in the usa have one historical constant. regardless of percentages, a significant number of us have always been anti-usa. and that matters because when you have black people who live pro-usa lives:) their is bound to be disunity:) For me, I expect disunity because our phentoypical races relationship to the usa is complex side bloody. 2. going back to the 1st, if a black man wants to kill whites or hates the usa, then they don't want to be a businessman in the usa or mayor of NYC, so while they may fail as many black people have to leave or kill the usa in the past, their failure isn't dropping the ball, if dropping the ball refers to a positive existence in the usa side whites. 3. in NYC at least, black people from africa or the caribbean who have not been enslaved in the usa always intermingled side intermarried side make babies happily aside black descended of enslaved or similars. thus, in NYC At the least, the Pan Black union has spurred all success at all times. It isn't about where you are from in NYC historically, it is about phenotype. Yes, today you will see more bound to a geograph but garvey was extremly popular in NYC's black community from the preacher to the gambler to the homeless to the homeowner whether DOSer or from the islands or the caribbean. Cause it was Black nationalism, not Black geograph nationalism. 4. again in NYC, every single tribe in the village says the young are doing it wrong. I can't tell you how many people from africa or the caribbean want the children or next generations or the community to change its ways:) As in the past, some black people with money take the perch of their luck to say the majority of blacks are doing wrong, and in the modern black community in the usa it is each tribe <dos,nigerian,jamaican> in the village 5. IN NYC people say look at white jews as the financial excellent, but white jews are a small percentage of the populace of whites in NYC, very small. Yes, Black trinidadians can be seen as very fiscally apt or engaged compared to black jamaicans or Black DOS, but it is simply the fiscal capitalism way in NYC. In every group, from japanese or white jews in the white community compared to chinese or white christians, or DOSers compared to trinidadians, or colombians compared to Puerto ricans, smaller tribes always have a better rate of financial return. but in truth, it is always the larger groups who make money or have more rich, they just also have more poor.

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@Pioneer1 ahh the midwest:) I see:) The funny thing about new york city is that it teaches you how multiracial communities actually work opposed to how so many who don't actually know what it is to be raised in a multiracial environment think it should be. Too many people in the USA talk about mixed communal living but have no true experience in a city that truly has various races of people <phenotype/religion/language/age/gender/ or more> who actually live amongst each other, positively side negatively. I rather say,black people need to accommodate whites over black people desire to be less black. The desire to be less black stems from the mandatory need to accommodate whites by blacks who want to or are forced to use nonviolent means to live in peace or advance their individual selves in white controlled places. The problem is, too many black people supposed in the past that black people through nonviolence could achieve more than individual freedom but collective freedom. NYC is the proof. NYC has black multi millionaires, mayors, police chiefs, teachers, small business owners. Individually you can find a black person has achieved anything individually possible. But, the black community in NYC has next to nothing. The collective success is fleeting but that isn't failure, that is inevitable, through nonviolence communal strength has limits.

@Pioneer1 fair enough on your take on the poetry. thank you for your thoughts to the poetry. For the record I haven't stated mine. I do not know where you live and I will not judge the entire Black populace in the USA but... I live in NYC , which has more black people in it than any other city in the USA by a large margin. And has within it the most internally multiracial set of Black peoples of any city in the USA as well. and knowing black people in every borough, all ages, all backgrounds <DOSer , modern immigrant, latino, anglo, chrsitian, atheist, and more> I am 100% certain in NYC, most black people love being black. over 90% hands down, no question do not want or wish to turn themselves white. In parallel, same over 90% have never lived in a city where being black is potent, visible in a grand way. The reason is simple, NYC when it was new amsterdam to today has always been dominated plus governed from within its white community. Black people in NYC prove to me, that Black people in the USA biggest problem historically isn't wanting to be white but living in a white country, whether before or during or after the war between the states, where they can't escape to a black country, they can't have a black place in it, but they have been alloted a coexistence which at best is nonviolent, at least is unspoken sin.