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  1. Actor Jonathan Majors was found guilty of a misdemeanor and a violation that could result in up to one year prison sentence: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-trial-verdict-1235759607/ Majors will lose more in job opportunities as a result of this situation. He's already been dropped by his management company. Marvel comics is removing him from their movies. A Black man should know there is a huge target on his back. Any form of success increases the bullseye range. For a Black man, any and every transgression of law especially of a violent nature will be prosecuted to the fullest extent. in Jonathan Majors situation, the victim didn't press charges. The state of NY did it. The guilty verdict won't cost Jonathan Majors a significant amount of his freedom. But, among the dominant society, he will lose far more in the court of public opinion and income. Another Black man who was a rising star brought back down to Earth. White folks totally enjoy the take down. Majors isn't the first and won't be the last the Black man to bring this on himself. President of Ultimate Fighting Championship Dana White was caught on video slapping his wife around. Nothing happened to him. The Black man cannot get away with high crimes or misdemeanors in the same manner as white men. The question is when will he ever learn.
  2. richardmurray I never said anyone was stopping me or putting an obstacle in my path. why did you suggest i said that? You didn't say it, however your language, questions, and commentary suggests this is how you feel. Unnecessarily defensive about your activities on AALBC and what your intentions are, when no one has questioned them. Well, to others who post positively plus supportively I don't ask. You are one of the few people I have asked this online. The one thing you have in common to others I have asked is your style of judgements to other black people. This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. Troy knows the real reason he established this forum, however I'm going to PRESUME that the purpose for it is to DISCUSS...not necessarily agree, "speak positively", say ONLY nice and sweet things, or things that everyone agrees with. You may have a problem with my judging other Black folks. Somebody may have a problem with YOU calling Black folks "tribes", or referring to our community as a "village". Every thought of that? I don't. But some may. We're all here together to express ourselves in peace. Where we agree...we acknowledge those agreements. Where we disagree...we should either peacefully express those disagreements or ignore them and move on. In another thread I just got through explaining how so many people....especially women....would rather deal with heavily moderated social media platforms like facebook rather than an open discussion forum such as this one. Why? Because they can snitch on other posters, get them banned, their comments deleted, etc. Can't just IGNORE the other person and focus on doing THEM...no...they have to "punish" the people saying things they don't like or want to hear. Time out for that juvenile shit. If another brother or sister is saying something you don't like or agree with....express it civilly and then move on if need be. No need to challenge or confront them or make them an "op".
  3. 3:06 i think more reality t.v. cause from my experience the money to make movies demands you talk to people who have money willing to lose, and said people want more surety. 5:53 independent films allow for the artistic acceptance even if it is financially against audience tastes. 7:52 the ability to gain experience in the arts differs on discipline. a painter can make a painting but a film maker needs to make and show a film which is more expensive. In conclusion that is the issue with projec greenlight, the process after a film is made matters
  4. ProfD It's easy to protest against the promotion of violence and dysfunction in music and movies. I wonder why the Nation of Islam and other Black organizations aren't protesting against it. I showed you the video of Dr.Wesley Muhammad exposing the nefarious plot to negatively influence Black youth through frequency in the music as well as promoting violence and criminality. Our late sister Delores Tucker headed a campaign back in the 90s to check some of these gangster rappers who were promoting violence and criminality in the community, but she didn't get the support or recognition I thought she deserved. The wholistic approach means attacking the system responsible for the conditions. Well, as mentioned earlier....some of the conditions weren't caused by the system. It was caused by a jacked up brain...lol. Some people engage in crime and violence simply because they are twisted and fucked up in head. Even under "good" conditions, they'd still be getting in trouble and ruining the neighborhood...until somebody stops their ass. Mental health is a very real issue in America that isn't being addressed well enough. ....that being said. I'm not going to let somebody come to MY apartment complex or neighborhood and walk around acting a fool and using his mental condition as an excuse. Too bad. Although the system isn't doing what it's supposed to do and take care of those with serious problems, people still have to live and be safe and must defend themselves against the "walking dead". I would not be surprised. I'm sure Detroit is one of those cities that has an enclave of successful Black folks living in the suburbs of it. Not just in the suburbs, but inside the city itself there are several wealthy upper middle class and wealthy Black neighborhoods. Infact, there is a Black actor...Harper Hill....who is running for U.S. senator of Michigan who lives in one of them. I think he's trying to pull and Obama move and is using Michigan as his launching pad like Obama used Illinois.
  5. Middle East. Scandavia. The operative phrase is they don't have to work in order to meet basic needs. Foreigners are allowed to do jobs the citizens may not feel like doing because they don't have to work. The foreigners get to come and work to make money for themselves and their families back home. Just like here in the US. The welfare system is an example of how it works in the USA. As jobs are being phased out by technology, the US will have to come up with a UBI (Universal Basic Income). Glorified welfare. Mentioned above. Human beings are slowly being replaced by robots and AI. The UBI will allow humans to consume at a certain level. They will have to find some kind of work to make extra money. Drones and self-driving vehicles will eventually move a lot of products. Many stores are going to self-checkout. Folks pump their own gas in most states. No cashier or attendant. Drive up at 3 a.m. Pay at the pump and gas up and go. I don't know if we'll be around to see the implementation of it but eventually the US will have fewer social classes. The work week will be reduced. Unemployment as we know it will be different too.
  6. ProfD It's already happened to a degree with integration several decades ago. Most intelligent Black folks do not live among the riff raff elements of our race. They've moved to middle-class and better suburbs and other enclaves of well to do Black folks. Yes, to a certain extent. However a few problems with how they're doing it CURRENTLY IS: 1. Even if the intelligent and decent Black family moves away from the hood to live a peaceful and stable life, often times their CHILDREN are heavily influenced by music, movies, and their friends to go BACK the hood and engage in that foolishness. 2. Too many single sistas who make it out the ghetto and move on to live a decent life will BRING a no good thuggish boyfriend or brother/sister or some other dysfunctional friend or family member with them to that environment and they'll fuck it up. 3. The Black man who makes it out the hood will often find a White woman as a mate and produce a bunch of mixed children and completely alienate himself not just from the BAD element of the AfroAmerican community but from the AfroAmerican community as a whole! Troy where exactly do work man Lol, I work in a warehouse distribution center.
  7. ProfD Don't need a paycheck as long as basic needs are met. True. What modern society functions like this, though? What nation can we point to as an example where the majority of people (not a wealthy few) are getting their basic needs met without working for pay? Sure. They've imported them the same way white folks allow immigrants to work here. See...there you go. They need workers so they are IMPORTING immigrants to do the menial and manual labor jobs. Now how do you think that will work out in the United States? Especially for AfroAmericans? That's by design especially in capitalistic systems. Well, show me a nation with a system Socialist, Communist, or otherwise where most of the people of that nation DON'T have to work for a living. It may be ideal, but I'd like a living example to KNOW it works. The economy is predicated on people spending money. Doesn't matter how they get it. Part of it. The other part is producing goods and services for people to spend that money on. Even if everything is manufactured OUTSIDE the U.S., someone still has to drive the trucks to move the goods, open up the stores to sell them, and operate the gas station to fuel the cars and trucks that move them. A whole lot more than 2.8 million people live beyond comfortably well with less than $10 million I agree.
  8. @Steinsman yes I have.. I can't say I have anything I am expecting highly, but as a writer, i give all movies a chance. Anything you are expecting to see? @aka Contrarian it doesn't matter how late, glad your here. a chocolate fred astaire, nice language not just difficult, nat king cole found it impossible to attract sponsors but not viewers , funny how today, viewers dictate sponsors so you like bebop or st louis versions of jazz, more than big band, ragtime, experimental, smooth or other versions of jazz. you propose a question i don't know the answer to. Is the percentage of black thespians in media: film/tv/music/stage combined greater than the percentage of black people in the usa? I don't know. The statistical answer to the question you posed lay in said questions answer. I remember years back someone white said no one in the usa, including white christians has better representation than white jews. and I thought about it. Considering white jews represent a very very small fraction of the population in the usa, their representation in media is way above their percentage. So it is possible for Black people to have a greater percentage of media representation than the populace. Well, most people in media follow scripts in the usa in general. I argue modern media in the usa has become inflexible to those who do not. You shouldn't feel guilty at all. At least in my opinion. The black populace in the usa ha s multiple traditions, concerning black relationship to the usa or the whites in it. Nat Turner/Frederick Douglass/WEB Dubois when younger/Booker T Wahsington/ The Exodusters/Garvey all lived at the same time. Each had a different relationship to whites. Turner felt whites should be killed/Douglass embraced as fellow citizens\Dubois an anchor for a minority of wealthy blacks to lead the majority of blacks/Washington an aid for blackpeopele to improve their segregated side of the street/Exodusters as rivals and only business partners for black growth in black towns or cities/Garvey as people whose presence black people should never live around. You said you feel guilty but no reason exists for that. I think you are in the spirit of frederidk douglass. The problem is our village in the usa or beyond hasn't accepted how to functionalize paths that don't work together. Douglass would love BArack obama. He is the embodiment of douglass dream. A phenotypically mixed heritage person, married to a DOSer , embraced by the DOS tribe int eh village while coming from the continent on on eside or the white statian on the other. Composite America speech is about what obama embodies. Does this mean I am in the spirit of Douglass, no I am not. But I comprehend that such path isn't wrong, jsut isn't mine. We black people have a hard time accepting that. And to be fair, Douglass like WEB Dubois greatest negativity in their lives was neither was able to accept other black ways. Douglass worked so hard to keep black people in the underground railroad from going to canada. SPoke against the exodusters and it was selfish of him. He wanted to prove the black populace could grow and thrive about whites in big northern cities. The ways of the black freedman or garvey leaving the usa or developing all black towns are both clearly segregatory and was against his firm integrationist beliefs, but that was selfish. Dubois never should had spoken against Garvey, again, it was selfish. Dubois hated the idea of leaving the usa for a black country. Not cause he hated black people but he liked the integrated environment. And like Douglass or Dubois you growing up and even now like it too, and nothing is wrong with that. As I have said to black militants or my fellow garveyites. If you want to kill all the whites like nat turner go ahead. the black populace in the usa has a long tradition of revenge against whites. If you want to leave the usa for a black country somewhere, go ahead. I know black people offline, who have left the usa and live in black countries happy. It can happen. Nothing is easy but it can happen. but, If you want the usa to be a multiphenoyptical country with individual rights for all spurred on nonviolently, go ahead. That is what MLK jr did post Douglass or dubois. That is what obama did post mlk jr. and when you see the black people integrating in the usa to whites in various levels, it is that way. You have lived your life your way, Contrarian:) i am happy for you. Feel pride not guilt in your way, and the tribe in the village you are apart of that is in my view stronger than most others. While also, smile for the other tribes, even if they are fleeting of member or faulty in structure, wish them tell. Be happy for them. Your not crazy. At least not to me. And as long as there is life there is hope. You can speak your mind in my post any time. I am not into name calling. And I believe in positive sharing. I hope you had pleasant dreams
  9. Troy Several times you've mentioned "this omniscient being". Should I take that to mean you don't believe in God? Where did you learn about the NDE experiences of these people a book, YouTube? Both. I've been studying them for years. All you have to do is ASK some of the people you know who've been in traumatic situations where they've been unconscious for an extended period of time and some of them may have some experiences to share with you too! Did they also explain why people would come back to be beheaded starve to death, die in infancy, and be raped and tortured? Did they explain what these experiences would provide them? Yes. According to many of them, every experience has a reason behind it. ProfD Now I'm wondering if I should feel slighted that I've not been able to participate in the near death experience and jumping around in different realities games. How do you know you haven't? One Multi-Reality theory claims that every single move is part of a different Reality. Their theory claims you're constantly moving through BILLIONS of Realities each moment.
  10. Hummmm. I dont know why I'm a "Johnny-come-lately" to this thread because I grew up during the golden era of Hollywood, and musicals were a major part of what was shown on the "silver screen" aka the movie theaters which brought the land of dreams right into neighborhoods all over Amrica. I go waaaay back with this subject and I literally had a front row seat to what was being shown back in the day for public entertainment at the cost of a 10-cent admission fee. Only, I didn't even have to pay that because my mother worked as a ladies' room attendent at the local movie theater in my idyllic little midwestern home town located 20-something miles west of Chicago. So, I was able to do what we called "going to the show" for free. As a mere child, before TV was ever heard of, I was a regular movie-goer and the first musical film I remember seeing in 1939 was "The Wizard of Oz", which was made even more spectacular because it was in technicolor, a new technology in the movie industry! From then on, I was hooked on musicals and whenever I accompanied my mother to do her chores in the mornings before the theater opened, I would tap dance up and down the winding marble stair case that was a center piece in this beautiful palace that featured the classical architecture style of movie houses back then. All that was missing was a chocolate Fred Astaire to complete my impression of Ginger Rogers! A few years later in the mid 1940s, I was thrilled to view one of the first full length motion pictures with an all black cast; a musical entitled "A Cabin in the Sky" starring the legendary Lena Horne! It was full of mugging black stereotypes but enjoyable nonetheless. When TV came on the scene during the early '50s, black folks became more visible in the public eye, doing what they were deemed to be best at doing; grinnin and singin' and dancin'. Nat Cole even had his own TV show but it didn't last long because his being black made it difficult to attract sponsors. Yes, Flip Wilson was successful in captivating audiences during the '60s, and it suffices to say that a lot of this was due to the "Geraldine" character he played in drag. What really fostered an appreciation for musical theater back then was the long running Don Cornelius' Soul Train TV show, featuring Motown, R&B, and Pop recording artists performing their hits and, of course, the legendary soul train line that provided a mini-musical show case for a parade of all the latest steps and improvised dance moves. Over the years my taste for musicals did, as the poster Steinsman suggested, change. The music I eventually came to prefer was JAZZ which I wanted to hear played by small combos, or sung by sultry songtresses in dim, intimate, little venues charging a 2-drink minimum cover charge. And so it goes... I liked the original "Color Purple" movie and the musical version of it on stage also. When the remake of it debuted, I had little interest in seeing it. It's now available on cable TV but I'd much prefer to watch the movie about Bayard Rustin who I remember from his role in organizing the March on Washington during the Civil Rights era which I also lived through... Nowadays, black folks are almost over represented in the entertainment industry. There they were recently, as they have been for the past few years, on stage at all the award shows, clutching their trophies, fighting back tears, blubbering about how, as a child watching movies and TV, they had yearned to see people "who looked like them" on camera and now, here they were, being recognized for their talent, bringing their testimonies to a close by urging all the young black kids out there to hold on to their dreams, blah, blah, blah, (and not to worry about losing weight because being fat is now "in" ) . I do feel guilty because, as a child, all I cared about was a good story and if white folks were striving to impress me and everybody else with their talent, so be it. If these expectations were fulfilled in an all-black movie, that was even better. But I never cared about seeing a black James Bond any more than I wanted to watch a white guy playing John Shaft. Now I'm a crazy old lady who can't half see or hear, hobbling around, only bothering to watch the news, and documentaries and true crime prorams and listen to music from by gone days with strong melodies and exquisite lyrics, still cheering on the local sports teams, but not really looking forward to what the future holds. C'est la vie. Well, I've rambled and reminisced long enough. The ol night owl is ready to pack it in. Good Evening. zzzzzzzzz
  11. It's fascinating how our preferences change as we grow older, isn't it? Musicals, especially those on film, might not have been your thing when you were younger, and that's totally understandable. It's all about personal taste! Have you had a chance to see what movies are out right now? Perhaps there's a gripping drama or another genre that aligns more with your current interests. Variety is the spice of life when it comes to choosing what to watch!
  12. At Present the US is having Border Issue.....Drugs and Migrants Over 50 million Americans use TikTok as their main source of News(information) and entertainment(influence)....TikTok is owned by a Chinese Company with heavy Governmental Oversight. You would be right to call them.....Militias. Also none of the above is proof of truth. It was The Clintons who destroyed Haitian Agriculture and Bill took responsibility for it....but has yet to commit to a remediation plan of action instead the situation is being exasperated. Since the Market for local Goods is destroyed...Nothing will sell that is locally grown - Making locally grown food unprofitable as cheap mass produced and heavily subsidize food is flooding the local market from Arkansas/USA. How you going to build hospital/schools or infrastructures when you Starving and if you do how are to pay workers teachers /nurses/doctors and buy medicine/supplies...with the enemy/US only too happy to destroy all your good effort. Since his invasion in 1994, Clinton has completely destroyed the structure of Haitian agriculture. In 1995 he forced the nation to drop tariffs on rice imported from America. Haiti dropped its import tariffs on rice from 50% to 3%. Clinton claimed this move would help Haiti jump into the "Industrial Era." Yet even before Clinton took this action, experts were well aware of the consequences: “An export-driven trade and investment policy has the potential to relentlessly squeeze the domestic rice farmer. This farmer will be forced to adapt, or (s)he will disappear.” –quoted in Lisa McGowan, [January 1997] REPORT HERE (PDF) After adopting Clinton's policies, Haiti became the fourth-largest importer of rice from the U.S, even though they were the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Most of the imported rice came from Clinton's home state in Arkansas. Today, Haiti is the fifth largest importer of American rice in the world, even though their population is just 10 million. Back in the 1970's Haiti imported only 19% of its food. When Haiti shut out the global markets, they were self sufficient and managed to feed a majority of their population while producing trade surpluses. Yet now Haiti imports over 80% of its rice from the U.S. Due to the new trade agreements, one ton of Haitian rice is now $300 more expensive than American rice on the Haitian market. This has devastated Haiti's ability to feed itself and be self sufficient. Haiti has 700,000 hectares of underutilized arable land, but still suffers from chronic trade deficits and food insecurity as a result of Clinton's policies. BILL CLINTON: Since 1981, the United States has followed a policy, until the last year or so when we started rethinking it, that we rich countries that produce a lot of food should sell it to poor countries and relieve them of the burden of producing their own food, so, thank goodness, they can leap directly into the industrial era. It has not worked. It may have been good for some of my farmers in Arkansas, but it has not worked. It was a mistake. It was a mistake that I was a party to. I am not pointing the finger at anybody. I did that. I have to live every day with the consequences of the lost capacity to produce a rice crop in Haiti to feed those people, because of what I did. Nobody else. https://www.worldfuturefund.org/reports/haiti/clintonhaiti.html Yes and Yes
  13. @Pioneer1 according to Google incorrigible has been used 9 times in 15 years, roughly once every year and a half. Hardly worth mentioning. The word is oh so apropos. If you rolled in more educated circles I’d suspect you’d hear it not often as far as your response. You engaged and a great deal of linguistic gymnastics and dragged out your Multiverse argument which you drag out to explain away anything as it encompasses all possibilities . the idea that we can move between any of the universes we want does not make sense to me, as I doubt anyone would pick their current situation knowing there are an infinite number of better positions they could be in.
  14. @Pioneer1 my friend, you are the very definition of incorrigible. i’ll make it plain. If the omniscient being you believe in knows every move we will ever make. How would they know it unless it was predetermined?
  15. Most intelligent Black folks already have........... The time has come to stop going in circles and preaching the same common sense to the walking dead. If they didn't have sense enough to "get it" after 60 years or preaching the same things over and over to them, it's time to pack our things and move on.
  16. MY THOUGHTS AS I LISTENED 1:17 the third black disney princess 1:22 Hans Christian Anderson version was so different than this. 2:17 mmessages to children and adults, remember christianity was originally taught through moral tales, not the bible, cause most couldn't read 3:45 good memory research, I never knew Queen latifah played ursula 4:17 why did you like Melissa mccarthy's ursula 4:41 based on inflation , the animated made more 4:58 school time: Cinderella with brandy side whitney : noni rose as tiani in princess and frog; princess of wakanda in the Black Panther series; Halley Bailey as Ariel is fourth 6:26 yeah, the creature in the film lady in the water is more like what anderson or europan historical fiction described mermaids are 8:23 that's right Merida, I will fight for my own hand! 9:05 a lot of urban usa, most of rural usa isn't mixed 9:28 I can see the despisal of the female characters whose only goal is to get a man being slowly murdered off inpsires you:) 10:50 your nice to disney, Disney over the last thirty years, is trying to make more money by placating the modern audience which has non white males with money. Disney would go bak to fantasia's black centaurs if the dollars went that way 11:49 Great point, philosophically having the casting untied to how characters are described is supposed to lead all in the audience to be aracial but it doesn't really work out that way 13:01 and they probably felt they wanted sebastian to be less "caribbean" 14:17 I remember telling people, this movie will make a ton of money. Disney knows how to make money. They comprehend how to be effective commercialist using art, I don't see them as culturally caring as many suggest but... 15:32 meow!:) leo season, have fun IN AMENDMENT Again, I was very fortunate as a black child, not merely to be raised by two black parents of the opposite gender, but also cause both of my parents were knowledgeable of and exposed me to the cultures of the many black tribes in the black village. The one biggest problem, many communities have is their miscomprehension to their internal variance. It isn't that humans in any community don't comprehend the internal variance exist. But I find most people growing up tend to be raised by parents or guardians who criminalize, a negative bias, to be honest, those in their community by one racial standard who don't share something about them on another racial standard. I am of the same phenotypical race as clarence thomas. But we are not of the same philosophical race. But what is the point? The point I don't mind Clarence Thomas being of a different tribe in the village than me. Most black people do. That is the problem. Can you accept that other black tribes to thrive will hinder your own tribe? But what does this have to do with the little mermaid. Two things, each tribe in the black village in the usa has its own heritage<what is carried> or culture < what is grown> , that has similarities, but also variances to the other tribes in the village. Part of that heritage is its fantasy or mythology. Some tribes in the black village embrace white fantasy brewed of the usa, like huckleberry finn or disney products as their own. Some don't. I don't see disney products as black, but that doesn't mean I think all other black people do or most importantly, all other black people should. The problem is, again, too many black people think other black people should be changed. That is the simple truth in the black community. The second is, whenever Black people are present in media, no matter who is financing it, black people have to ask themselves the simple question. Does this represent us? And there lies a huge problem for the black village in the usa, cause the black village in the usa has so many tribes with unjoinable cultures or heritages that dysfunctional argument is all that can come from Black discourse on our identity in media. IT doesn't anyone is wrong or right in the discourse, but the tribes have differences that can not be bridged. And no tribe is strong enough to sway the others, unlike to be fair, the white village in the usa, who has tribes strong enough to move the entire village even if many tribes don't want it . ala the civil rights act. You can see this with the global Chinese community and the commonly called mainland. And this is where Disney's the little mermaid comes front and center. A village that has no central identity, because it doesn't have a dominant tribe in itself, can't make clear delineations to what is acceptable or not, which some tribes in the black village in the usa want as well. But, this means black discourse becomes an automatic negative whenever identity comes into play. So, a white film depicting a black mermaid based on a tale from a white european man to the modern global ticketbuyer who ars a hyper multiracial blend creates... an autonegative discourse in the black community, where no one is wrong, or right, but concurrence of thought between the members of the village is nearly dead. And this discussion by @Pioneer1 in this forum is a prime example White People Who Can Pass For Black, Brown, and Yellow. - Culture, Race & Economy - African American Literature Book Club (aalbc.com) The commentors are literally repeating their points because how one views race doesn't have a bridge to another when it simple doesn't. It becomes either someone just gives in and says they change their position or they say nothing. But everything else is repetition unless a deeper issue is discussed. The deeper issue is black identity in the usa, but as i said, the only way discourse can come to an all agree is if all have the same position. But which black tribe's position will be used? Again, Frederick Douglass was booed by a crowd of all black people speaking his composite nation speech. Douglass is a man that most blacks of wealth, the black one percent, in the modern usa tout as a hero, what does it say that most blacks booed him at the end of his days and most blacks in modernity, the black ninety nine percent, boo the blacks of wealth today? The cohesion in history comes from the same problem. A position on blacks relationship to the usa isn't accepted between the tribes so you get argument and no actions. @Pioneer1 also asked the following Help A Brother Out......My Thinking Patterns and Perspectives of the World - Culture, Race & Economy - African American Literature Book Club (aalbc.com) But it is another prime example of different tribes. The reality is, every black home should had taught what should had been common knowledge. That the black community, a phenotypical race, in the usa began its existence in the usa unlike the whites, with a lack of cohesion that has never gone away. It is that simple. When black militants say: my forebears wanted to kill whites, they are correct, but not all black forebears in the usa wanted to do that or did do that.. When black voters say: my forebears fought to get the vote side whites as equals, they are correct, but not all black forebears in the usa wanted to do that or did do that. So you get people in the Black community as adults wondering why the Black community has such negative discourse, why blacks don't do like they do, when the answer should had been told to them by their parents who knew. And , just in case you may think this is an isolated issue in the black community in the usa, it isn't. I argue it is the usa's great problem. The entire issue with the entertainment industry is the culture of slavery in fiscal capitalism in the usa, which is purer to the usa than unions or individual rights or anything else. Hollywood KAput The only thing that survived the english colonial form of the usa into its independent self from the british empire to modernity is slavery. Yes, slavery still exist in the penal system in the usa today. And yet, while all in the usa know this, the lack of this truth in the homes of people growing up, which all adults know, leads to people's shock that the fiscally wealthy desire or manage fiscal capitalsm in the usa to always be a slavery based way. From Ronald Reagan cutting government programs to give money to the rich , like the taking of native american land to grow plantations. From failed banks being given a welfare check by Bush jr + Obama like when the southern agrarian economy couldn't return to its former profitable self in reconstruction and the government embraced jim crow to get black people into the southern prison systems to revitalize the southern agrarian economy, which happened to gilded wealth accumulation. From the automotive or entertainment industries failures while being supported by the usa government reflects how the enslavers who lost everything were given it all back by the usa government , through the usa's power curtaling the essence of fiscal capitalistic that the usa advertises. But the key is all in the usa know this, but few say it. And some want slavery in a stronger form to make a comeback , ala the robot. The point being the usa's 300 million make up a village with a quite large number of tribes who don't fit together, heritage-wise or culturally or philosophically, but raise their children and suggest in themselves that a unity exist or will exist which of course is a simple lie, but which creates the discourse battles leading to no where. Finally, and away from things, thanks to @harry brown for announcing the anniversary of AALBC. I still have goals I want to see in this ecommunity and hopefully they will happen.
  17. Day 2 part 2 Tiya Miles in conversation with Brenda M. Greene < https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Brenda+M.+Greene > Tiya Miles is the author of the book "The Cherokee Rose" about various Black people who find themselves on a reservation with a threat https://aalbc.com/books/home.php?isbn13=9780593596425 https://aalbc.com/books/home.php?isbn13=9781324020875 GQ- Greene Question MA- Miles Answer My thoughts GQ Why inspired plus brief synopsis? MA Family of enslaved black women, a member sewed their story into a sack, based on a real sack. The sack was found by a white woman in nashville in a bin of things for twenty dollars. Signed by middleton. The middleton's are white people from england through barbados, still rich and have a foundation today. The white woman said she was given a vision to give the sack back to the plantation but she could had made more money if it was auctioned. Sack was on in the smithsonian now it is in the middleton foundation. In my own home we have items of bloodline history that is uncommon. I wonder how many similar items have been destroyed or thrown away by black people since the end of the war between the states. GQ What about embroidery? MA It was viewed as a white woman's pastime. A symbol of high femininity by whites, in a phenotypically judged way, not for black women. Miles first saw the sack as an object but progressed two stages to see it as an art. She question the sack is back south. The item that is a symbol of a black bloodline leaving the south, escaping the south is not back in the south, charleston, on a plantation. The black bloodline fled to philadelphia to freedom with the sack originally. The Foundation now has a black middleton side white middleton reunion plus a scholarship for descended of enslaved. Whites deem black women masculinized, as in unnaturally physically strong, ala the black woman , who was a happy enslaved, hitting black men with a broom in birth of a nation. If you recall the scene she is so strong that she can successfully fight against a horde of black men, who never once harm her, fleeing from her broom. In parallel the imagery suggest a continued stupidity or physical weakness, femininized, in the black male populace. The question is what is the true feeling and place of the southern states to DOSers in the black populace in the usae. I know a black man recently suggested the south should be a place of strength, regardless of its past. But I think it is fair to argue the south and the greater usa is a place of historic pain that black DOSers in the black populace in the usa have the right to choose to embrace. GQ Explain the process to write the book? MA The sack was the best or primary source. The book was an unwise undertaking with so few sources. But she got help from an anthropologist. Mark LASTNAME. The Middleton foundation had assessed the material the sack was made of. She looked for a woman named Rose with a girl named Ashley. Rose was a popular name. While, ashley was a name given to white men mostly at that time. She found one ashley had connection to one rose in the region. She can never know what is on the mind of people living today so knowing the mind of people living in the past is farther off. But she used slave narratives to guide to the mindset Ashley or Rose might had. She was very lucky. The whole point of the recording history of enslavement by whites in the usa was to delete links to the past for black people living or in the future. That was the point. That is why I wonder why it is so hard to get black people in the usa or wherever we have been enslaved which is , everywhere on earth in the last three hundred years to keep a better genealogical or bloodline log to themselves. GQ Why are relationships complicated between indigenous people side Blacks MA American slavery. She wants slavery on the land commonly called the usa to be represented for the expansive institution it was and expansive mutating legacy it is. The lands of the usa are not everyone's they are indigenous lands. She focused in the book on south east indigenous nations and the slavery within them. The enslavement of blacks by native americans is complex. For example, a native american named Shoeboots purchased a black woman named Doll. Why is their story important? Cherokee law makers in the 1700s , not wanting to be classed aside blacks by whites, made laws to disassociate black indigenous people wholescale. Shoeboots sisters embraced their nieces plus nephews from Doll but the larger indigenous community did not. She calls these American stories which are part of composite stories. I have said it for a long time. The entire American continent , which includes the USA, is owned by the native american in my eyes. Now, some places like many islands in the caribbean have a completely deleted indigenous populace. But, every country that has an indigenous populace: USA/Canada/Brazil/Mexico/Venezuela/Peru plus most others have a living indigenous populace that in my mind is the proper owner of the countries land. And many Black people have told me offline or online how they oppose this position. But the truth is what they oppose. To accept the indigenous ownership of the land in the American continent is to reject the creation of a majority of the governments in the American continent and by rejecting said governments the logical next step is to ask where do the non indigenous in the american continent belong. And that question's answer ranges from overwhelming in function to terrifying in implementation for a majority of non-indigenous in the american continent. And all the talk about forebears or the laws value in determining the place of their descendants from white europeans, black dosers, willing immigrants legal or illegal are all dead in the water if you accept the truth that indigenous people of the american continent had their continent taken. So any government with indigenous has a majority non indigenous populace that is in modernity a functioning encroacher/pillager/defiler regardless of their mindset, until they leave the american continent and go back to a location of their descendants or themselves. And that migration by the non indigenous, in countries with indigenous people, to wherever they or their forebears came from is what is the most honest or truthful act that can occur in the american continent. And the lie against that act exposes the truth about most in the non indigenous in the american continent. The great Tecumseh asked indigenous people of the south east region to join him and they opposed. Tecumseh later died in the canadian forest fighting the usa. One of the many Indigenous side Black DOSer leaders whose goal was against the white populace in the usa or the british colonies that preceded it and the creation/growth/expansion of the USA, who were supported by the british militarily sometimes. The fact that said Indigenous or Black DOS leaders failed doesn't mean they were wrong or that their struggle should be deemed false. Like the Indigenous populace in the usa, the Black DOser populace once bereft of the leaders who fought against the whites with violence, or the usa at every iteration became populaces enslaved not merely physically but culturally to the usa. It is no accident that the modern indigenous or black dos populace in the usa are in majority USAphiles, Statianphiles, that is a result of the death of a majority of either of their populaces earliest leaders who were adamantly or strongly anti white plus anti usa and the following leadership by the appeasing or non violent, the fearful of whites who sheparded either populace successfully to the their modern forms. GQ Why the modern conflicts of who is black or who is indigenous MA Native peoples in the usa have been stripped completely and have many false clones , false indigenous people of all phenotypes, modernly called identity theft, for centuries. The Shoeboots side Doll's descendants plus others are overly questioned by indigenous with that centuries old legacy. . But many enslaved descendants are treated as a subclass on reservations. A place in the oklahoma territory is named Nigger Hill where many people who are descended from formerly enslaved in the native american nations. The situation reached even a greater negativity at the end of the war between the states. In her view the chrorkee have come the farthest in giving rights to descendants of enslaved. No answer satisfies all or insults none. This is the result again of a negative past with indigenous people or black dos that predates the creation of the usa and is really two unsettled blood feuds against whites. Why shouldn't Indigenous or Black DOS populaces mimic whites in the usa when the leadership of either populace that was truly against whites was long dead? Two populaces led by whitephiles for centuries are not going to arrive today absent a mimicry of white behavior. GQ Talk about Cherokee Rose MA She know someone who searched for indigenous roots and they were wrong in their assumption and felt embarrassed. In the USA, native american descendance is romanticized while Black DOS descendance is barbarized. Yes and both of those views are not universal in creation but from whites where the black dos or indigenous leaders aided or abetted in their own populaces. GQ Talk about Wild Girls? MA She made during the height of Covid. She talks of how Harriet Tubman was continually loaned as an enslaved girl, mercilessly. But Harriet TUbman said later in life, she felt her work in timber prepared her for the work to come. She was the only female. She listened to the men, learned of water flow, what is edible. Tubman learned from being outside and changed the world. Love Harriest Tubman. A legend and I argue absent proof that Tubman wanted black people to go all the way to canada more but Frederick Douglass, one of those USAphile black leaders corralled black people to suffer in the usa even though if all the black people who escaped enslavement in the usa would had gone to nova scotia, history would be very different today in a positive way for black people in nova scotia and i argue throughout north america. USAphile black leaders insistence through centuries that black people suffer whites throughout the usa is the self inflicted wound. ANSWERS FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER QUESTIONS TO TIYA Q - from audience Tiya Answer- her reply My thoughts Q What is difference between history and fiction? TA History means you don't need a plot. Many people in her offline life family, never read any of her books till she made a novel. Fiction has more room to find a way in. Invites people to feel. History makes arguments , doesn't have a built in promise to feel. This leads to two different audiences for fiction or history. Also the various populaces in the usa don't like the questions history poses to self. White people will say my family wanted betterment. But your family killed others, aided or abetted in harming others for that betterment. You forebears are heroes to you, while tyrants to others you don't want to acknowledge. Cause that means the opportunity or advantage you have comes from that tyranny, and the ignorance they presented to the descendants is not the act of a hero but a coward to ashamed to admit what they are or are apart of. Black people will say our people built the usa. But our people hated every second of it, wishing only in their hear to have it deleted. And they were made worse by tricking themselves or their children into buying into a lie of ownership when they knew fully well they never owned the usa or had ownership in it. Indigenous people will say they love america. But your forebears and the forebears of the cousins, the many more cousins who never got to be, were murdered by the usa and its predecessor. To love the usa is to forgive its murder of your own people, which either makes you a coward or a traitor. Immigrants will say, they came freely on their own with no desire to abuse. But only a self centered person will go to a new land absent knowing its true nature and then hide behind their individual greed or needs to warrant the move. You fled from your country instead of having the willingness/strength/daring to make it better for convenience to a land made by white europeans who were and are like yourself , and you call that a dream, while the heritage of the country you came to or the situation of the country you left you can't even acknowledge is a nightmare you aid in growing. Q What about hand craft? TA Experiencing what people make by hand is cherished. She took classes in college for sewing and her family loved the craft she made. In the USA a culture of electronic crafting is growing at such a rate, in the usa non electronic hand craft will have a lessening, not deletion but lessening. Q What steps should be taken to come together? TA John Stewart , the english governor of carolina , pre USA, in his writings admitted you can't allow bindings of indigenous people with black dos. Later in the usa, circa seminole wars, blacks fleeing georgia were strengthening the union of black dos side indigenous so laws were made to put at odds by giving allowances in the white system for one while not the other. Examples exist of indigenous abuses toward blacks but it must be comprehended they are not everywhere throughout the indigenous lands in a comparable way to the abused to blacks throughout white european lands. In her personal experience, indigenous people easily accept those they know who are indigenous while black but the people who are unverifiable becomes frustrating as well as problematic for the same indigenous people. After killing of George Floyd native american solidarity to blacks increased , not at the strength of the seminole movement in florida but stronger than recent past. The problem with labels is their misplacement. When I say indigenous, that is not a phenotypical label. that is about descendency. When I say Black that is a phenotypical label, it is about appearance. Connecting indigenous to white or non indigenous to black is where the errors come in. Q How to galvanize communities, bridge the gap? Her mother applied for a job as a nurse in the choctaw nation, saying she never embraced her indigenous roots. Her mother's experience was horrifying. She cried daily in tears. She herself identifies as black dos wholesale with no desire to claim her indigenous roots. What kind of conversation do we need to start having? TA She admits to things she will not speak publicly that occurred to her in montana.... she thinks sometimes we think their must be an affinity between indigenous side black. When she did research on indigenous people side black dos, she found the most binding heritage between the two people absent any near challenge is enslavement, the institution of slavery in the usa. The optimism of what should be accepted contradicts what happened in the past. But the fleeting stories can be inspiring or models. The best examples of bonding are when both are under the heel. For example when indigenous plus blacks were both enslaved a communion existed but when indigenous enslavement was outlawed or banned the indigenous community in majority fled. When historical winds are negative people choose to flow away from such winds. But she says small communication is the best at the moment. A black lady behind me said they think they are white anyway. And she is correct, but it goes back to Tecumseh. A people whose leaders that love them while hate their enemies when they are murdered and replaced by those that love them while also love the enemy creates a choice of convenience that truthfully while sadfully has led to the growth of whitephile or usaphile quantities in the indigenous or black dos populaces who are empowered by whites or the usa with advantage over the remainder of their populaces. It is not that indigenous or black dos do not have many who want to be white but the why is inevitable with said leadership in an environment controlled by their historic enemy. Yes, for me, the seminole wars, all four phases, is the most positive union between the indigenous side black dos populaces in the usa. No moment has a more positive union between indigenous or black people in north america and what is the situation. Both indigenous plus black dos are technically not in the USA but in spanish florida being given the right by the spanish to defend the lands as the spanish are impotent. Like the english before, or the french in some ways in louisiana, the white european continental powers gave situations that were far more favorable to indigenous or black people but the numbers of white european settlers and later statians was too great and overrun indigenous or black dos efforts through numbers. But how can modern indigenous or black dos populaces in the usa mirror the seminoles, which is a word signifying a collective of peoples, not just one, in spanish florida in opposition to the usa while in the usa? Look at Tecumseh again. At the end, he died in canada but his goal was in the usa or the usa to be. It is hard being anti usa in the usa. and , at least historically though i think modernly, if you are anti white then you are anti usa in the usa. Q Have you felt blocked in creating? TA She hasn't felt block but many scholars came before her. She has heard some scholars be formally discouraged cause the history may lead to a negative light. She idd not go to the Tsalagi and get their blessing for her book. She knew a writer who found intermarriage evidence between black dos side indigenous and Tsalagi told him to take it out and he did. She received negative communication from descendants of enslavers white or indigenous or others for the history she found wasn't what they knew or accepted or wanted as the main publicized or advertised narrative. But in her engagements she has never had people stay the same after discussing. When she started a native american scholar felt her book would destroy the native american populace but years later said she is thankful she wrote the book. Again, people in the usa, all phenotypes[black/white/mulatto/native], all descendencies [indigenous/european/african/asian/suth american/caribbean] have been bred on lies by those in the past in their own homes. Often with lies at the core of their relationship to the usa, or the whites to own it, and to disprove those lies is a bridge many are fearful of. Q How to transform the youth of today TA She feels a gap between herself and some members of her household. Her best guess is to bring younger people in a dual directional project. To learn the language of the youth and speak the communities needs or elders concerns in said language while elders allow young voices to change themselves. She admits, sadfully, she knows things she wish she will see, she will never see in her lifetime, she wish she will. And, governmental policy matter and the things people make matter. The culture matters and move all of these things into the political realm. I think a faster question and answer, plus more interactive will help. The kids are used to more speed, less sitting while more interaction , less absorbing. It isn't that the kids can't sit or absorb but they prefer either of those actions to be accompanied by said other. IN AMENDMENT Great Talk in my view, like the first day. Learned but a lot of truth. And wasn't a bad crowd to be fair.
  18. Here is a report posted on a thread I was participating in on Facebook. I found it not only interesting but frightening. Check it out The Hartmann Report DAILY TAKE The New "Over the Top" Secret Plan on How Fascists Could Win in 2024 Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election & Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November… THOM HARTMANN FEB 26, 2024 576 140 Back on March 13, 2020 — almost exactly four years ago — I wrote an article that was published at alternet.org laying out how Republicans were then, ten months before January 6th, planning to partially repeat the debacle of the election of 1876 by having Vice President Pence refuse to certify swing state votes and thus throw the election to the House to keep Trump in office, no matter how the election went. When I published the article ten months before January 6th, I received concerned and even alarmed communications from several Democratic strategists and a few elected officials who basically said they didn’t think there was any way Trump would try such an audacious move and, if he did, he wouldn’t get away with it. But I was right and that was exactly what Trump had up his sleeve. We saw it play out on January 6th. The only thing that stopped him was Pence’s unwillingness to go along with stealing an election. Now I’m hearing a new story from those same GOP insiders (as well as other commentators) about Trump’s schemes for 2024. Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election and Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November: First, Republicans need to make sure they’re in control of the House of Representatives on January 6th, 2025, when the new president will be certified. To do that, even though Democrats might have won enough seats to take back the House in the 2024 election, Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated. Consider that Johnson is still refusing to swear in Tom Suozzi (who recently won George Santos’ old seat), something Johnson apparently did to maintain enough Republican-majority votes to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. (Johnson says they’ll swear him in this coming Thursday, but nobody’s holding their breath.) Like Mitch McConnell withholding Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court for over a year, withholding certification of a handful of Democrats would be easy, legal, and completely immoral. There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants. That keeps Speaker “MAGA Moscow Mike” Johnson in charge of the House, so they can also refuse to accept the Electoral College certificates of election from a handful of states where they claim there are “problems.” Keep in mind, Johnson was the guy who organized the wave of 138 House members who voted not to certify Joe Biden’s election in January of 2020. That’s why Trump wanted him as speaker. Elise Stefanik, the number 3 person in House Republican leadership, has already refused to say whether she’d vote to certify the presidential election results this November. Others, like Kentucky Republican Congressman Thomas Massie, are repeatedly mentioning their belief that the House gets to decide who’s president, not the people or even the Electoral College. As Massie posted on X: “Maine, Colorado, and other states that might try to bureaucratically deny ballot access to any Republican nominee should remember the U.S. House of Representatives is the ultimate arbiter of whether to certify electors from those states.” In response, Elon Musk posted a one-word comment: “Interesting.” Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote. While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal. The Putin/Trump caucus in the House — led by Speaker Johnson — has largely given up on democracy when elections don’t give them power. As outrageous as this scenario sounds, they justify it to themselves as being essential to “save America” from “woke” Democrats. Johnson has repeatedly said he thinks God Himself put Johnson into the speakership to fulfill some great destiny, comparing himself with Moses: stealing a presidential race “for the greater good” almost certainly qualifies as that. And, although Congress in 2022 raised the number of congressional objectors necessary to stop the certification of a presidential vote, Johnson himself was able to round up more than that number in 2020. This is eminently do-able. Finally, the Supreme Court long ago ruled that they and the entire US court system have no jurisdiction over “political issues” that the Constitution says must be resolved by Congress. This issue of Congress’ certification of electoral college votes certainly qualifies, so, no matter what the courts might want to say or do, there’s probably no legal tool they can use to block a second Trump presidency under these circumstances. Rightwing billionaires and neofascists within the GOP are salivating at this prospect. Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller must be giddy. In one fell swoop they’ll “take back” the government, putting an end to that pesky problem of democracy and voters wanting nice things. President Trump issues a new Schedule F executive order and suddenly 20,000 or so of the top management of every federal agency find themselves out of a job, being replaced by conservative ideologues who are being vetted by Heritage and other conservative think tanks as you’re reading these words. Once they have control of both the political and the “deep state” or administrative government, these conservatives intend to set about making the changes they’ve been pushing for years: — End gay marriage and criminalize being trans. — Outlaw abortion and most forms of birth control. — End the teaching of Black history. — Outlaw DEI and affirmative action of any sort. — Shut down most functions of the EPA so the fossil fuel and chemical industries can do whatever they want to our air and water. — End enforcement of our anti-monopoly laws. — Fire thousands of IRS investigators to make America safe for morbidly rich tax cheats. — Shut down all “green” initiatives and instead “drill, baby drill.” — Sell off public lands and parks to the highest bidders. — Privatize Social Security and end traditional Medicare. — End federal funding for public schools and colleges. — Outlaw unions. It’s truly breathtaking. They’re committed to abandoning America’s historic embrace of democracy, the “radical new form of government” that our nation’s Founders brought back into the world after it had vanished for almost 3000 years. But, as Americans have figured out the GOP’s priorities and are disgusted by their obeisance to great wealth and Vladimir Putin, Republicans have decided that winning free and fair elections is for suckers. Stealing them is so much easier. I don’t see any legal way such a strategy can be stopped, because it’s all based on “legal” technicalities. Like the legal technicality that George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote but became president anyway (without significant protest from the American people). When I wrote that article laying out Trump’s plan to have phony electors, et al, back in 2020, people were upset I was “giving him ideas.” Some may similarly say about this article, “Don’t tell them how to do it!” But this has already been written about extensively by Newsweek’s editor-at-large Tom Rogers, Mark Medish & Joel McCleary for the Washington Spectator, and covered last Friday night an an opening monologue by Joy Reid. It’s public knowledge, although the media seems unwilling to discuss it. The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences. It’s a thin thread holding our republic together, but at least it’s something. Pass it along.
  19. If you're like me, currently impaired by a short attention span, you want a quick fix - immediate gratification when catching up on the news. If anything is too long and drawn out I, and a lot of other people, are not motivated to read it. We want instant gratification. A headline is not a title. It's a concise summary of what the article is about. Editors often make them clever and provocative to catch the reader's eye. Nowadays I get most of my news from TV. I take it all with a grain of salt. Most people do. I don't know anybody who totally trusts the media anymore except maybe the Yahoos who watch Fox "News". Bottom line, folks eventually end up gravitating toward the outlets that tell them what they want to hear. Things that reinforce the opinionated conspiracy theories that everyone harbors in an ongoing pursuit of the "truth" which is simply a word and, unless it involves math, is more-or-less a concoction of cherry-picked factoids made up of other words that are just words. Yada, yada, yada. I will now step down from my soap box and move on... Good Night. zzzzzz
  20. 1:02 Thank you for saying the truth. I wonder what your thoughts are to non documentarian biopics influencing how people view identities in history? 1:53 The movie was written by Stefani Robinson < https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/atlanta-writer-stefani-robinson-talks-female-creator-label-1130971/ > I Quote her "Being a woman is not in the forefront of my mind every second of every day. I am a woman, I live as a woman, and my perspective is most definitely female, but there’s this implication that for me (or women) to create a piece of work ?or put myself into the shoes of others, I have to somehow filter it ?through this resolute female mental block. It’s a contradiction, because I’m proud to be a woman and want females to be celebrated. But on the other hand, the focus on that sometimes feels a little condescending and demeaning." The problem with all artists who suggest araciality is they forget no artist has the ability to create absent bias. Bias isn't always negative. In Chevalier, her desire to show this competitive mulatto artist in France is from her own view, but the film could had went another way that may have achieved greater reception. I quote her again "Representation absolutely matters. The fact that I didn’t have many female TV writers to look up to when I was young is a big reason why I felt compelled to pursue ?my career. But I reject the idea that you can only tell a story if you’ve lived it. How clinical and boring. Artists should have the freedom to explore anything that moves. But this also demands that everyone is allowed a seat at the table.?" The problem with many of my fellow artists is they confuse labels with restrictions. And they confuse the ability to tell a story with the ability to tell a story with a perspective that will reach out to all. I am black, male, hetero, anglo <the language i primarily speak is english>. Does this mean I can't write a story inspired by don quixote? of course not. Am I from spain? no. Do I speak spanish? no. But I can still write a story about don quixote. BUT, if I am free to wrtie what I want will my culture emit through my telling of don quixote? yes. And of course, what will the commercial quality of my work be? well, that is a complicated question but at the end of the day, do those who are interested in my work or variants of don quixote have a large enough quantity and, will my work be able to attract those who are not interested in my work or don quixote? I have been writing my entire life, I have no bounds, but just because I can create whatever I want doesn't mean commercially it is viable? And based on what she has written in the past, has she shown viability in the genre of biopics? And to the movie, after chevalier, would you pay for her to write another? This is the key between all artists creativity side commerciality. Edgar Allen Poe, a white man , died poor, and not financially grand. Mark Twain wasted fortunes made from books with various ventures, but earned a lot of money. But today, many more know more references of Poe over Twain. Does it make either artist bad creatively? no. Does it mean either artists has different qualities commercially ? yes Opportunity to make profit is rare for all artists but when given an opportunity if you fail to make money, you fail. And even if statistics are skewed or augmented to emphasize failures unfairly, it is up to the artists to keep creating. I paraphrase <I am typing one go , no checking> the preface of the play , The Escape by William Wells Brown "This play was written for my own amusement , and not with the remotest thought that it would ever be seen by the public eye. I read it privately, however to a circle of my friends, and through them was invited to read it to a Literary Society . Since then, the drama has been given in various parts of the country. By the earnest solicitation of some in whose judgement I have the greatest confidence, I now present it in a printed form to the public. As I never aspired to be a dramatist, I ask no favor for it, and have little or not solicitude for its fate. If it is not readable, no word of mine can make it so; if it is, to ask favor for it would be needless" And I paraphrase, same as before WEB Dubois, who isn't my favorite writer , but is true sometimes. "The Negro today fears any attempt of the artist to paint Negroes. He is not satisfied unless everything is perfect and proper and beautiful and joyful and hopeful. He is afraid to be painted as he is, lest his human foibles and shortcomings be seized by his enemies for the purposes of the ancient and hateful propoganda" My two points using the two paraphrases above < and I apologize for all this preaching, my own preaching does sicken me> is first, to emphasize an eternal truth, whether in the late 1800s or on MArs circa 2672, Black artists, like all other artists in humanity, are totally free to create whatever we want, but that doesn't mean we warrant or must be given opportunity to profit from it; and , second, that Black DOS artist, like all other artists in humanity, need to feel no shame in admitting thier culture , including all of its unique ways, like being the only people forced to immigrate to the american continent and enslaved in it. 3:33 That is a great artistic question from Nike. In films concerning characters in history, the film industry has common aspects. For example, anytime a white jewish character is in film at the time period commonly called world war II, significant time is always, always given to concentration camp life for jews,always. I have personally witnessed in many writing groups, black writers desire an end to the mentioning of enslavement to whites in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it. And I comprehend the source of this artistic movement. Black DOSers have a problem. We are the only group that was forced to immigrate and exist enslaved in the usa, the only one, so no oher group in the usa has our fiscal /governmental/cultural path in the usa, no other group. In the arts this is played out whenever slavery is displayed. So to be apart of the usa en large, if black people simply dismiss our enslavement in the arts, we are internally moving from it to join the other groups in the usa. Enslavement to whites will always be a historical fact, but the arts have the ability to create perceptions to the past, ala Bastille day in france or the october revolution in russia are prime examples. The french republic didn't start at bastille day , but those in power in france wanted to create a living myth that the french republic was started at the time marie antoinnette lost her head. But it isn't true, monarchism thrived long after the bastille was stormed ala Napolean and his descendents. And same to Russia, the February revolution is where the Czar really lost it, and he chose to step down willingly, the legislative body of russia , like in most governments with a highly multiracial populace was unable to finda center where non exist, which is perfectly human, and thus led to more chaos later that year in october. But, this is the power of modern myths, designed to make more complicated stories simple. It is easier to say, France rid itself of monarchy with the chopping of marie antoinette's head, it is easier to say the russian monarchy was blindsided by the power of the peasants, it is easier to say the usa is the land of the free and the home of the brave merely with the signing of a declaration of independence. Bullshit. 3:47 Joseph Bologne was lucky. The reality is, many Black artist like to use rare black examples and tout that as the story to emphasize in a time. Were all black people ensalved to whites in the european colonies that became the UA? no , but does that mean the story of land owning blacks needs to be emphasized over the over ninety percent of black people completely enslaved to whites? I say no. Robinson chose to do what I heard in black writing circles many black writers suggest, I quote :"why do we have to talk about slavery all the time". The majority in any community dictates most of their narrative, the black community in the usa his an anaomaly in that the minority in the black community in the usa tedns to try to dictate the larger narrative. Ala the talk about human equality , fighting for freedom, being statian <allegiance to the usa> , and many philosophies stem from the black minority in the black community in the usa, in opposition to the black majority in the usa which is historically or modernly, anti white, anti usa, pro segregation, yes seperate while equal. Note: Remember, the plantation is a form of integration. 6:10 yes, mullato is little mule. The Casta is something started by spain and this is where the terms, mestizo/mullatto/alvino/quadroon/octoroon come from. The problem with Casta is that it is a natural insulting system. Think of the Caste system in india. People like the Dalit are deemed less than by others in the more potent castes. It is an automatic insult. Saying Mulatto wasn't like saying Nigger. It is more like when someone is called black in the usa and they say, why do you have to call me black. It goes back to the writer and that philosophy or human equality. Don't call someone by a label, call someone by how they want to be referred to. So not the black dancer who made thriller but michael jackson who made thriller. The problem is not everyone is insulted when called mulatto. In South America, the simon bolivar side others were proud mestizoes, which is word kin to mulatto. For the record: mestizo is white parent side native american <regardless of native american phenotype> , Mulatto is white side black <regardless of geographic lineage, so native american or african or asian>, albino or quadroon is someone with morisco and white european <morisco parents are white and mulatto, mullatos paretns are white european and black> , octoroon is from a quadroon with another white european parent. Someone like rebecca hall, director of the film passing basedon the book by nella larson falls somewhere in that range of octorron and quadroon. ala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Castas_07tornatras_max.jpg Is Casta or terms from it like Mulatto based on genetics , no. It is science, or knowledge, but it is based on lineage. And why does lineage matter historically? law plus inheritance. This is why the descendent of Gannibal <a statue of him is in russia today>, Alexander Pushkin <russians know this writer in russian literary circles> own descedents are all white. Gannibal < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Петровское._Бюст_А.П._Ганнибала.jpg > Ossip Abramovich Gannibal Nadezhda Ossipovna Gannibal < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/N.O.Puskina.jpg > Alexander Pushkin < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Kiprensky_Pushkin.jpg > Natalia Alexandrovna Pushkina < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Pushkinana.jpg > Sofia Merenburg < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Sophie_of_Merenberg#/media/File:Countess_Sophie_of_Merenberg,_Countess_de_Torby_(LOC_ggbain.00604).jpg > from Sofia Anastasia de Torby < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/De_Torby_Anastasiya_Mikhailovna.jpg > Nadejda de Torby < https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Nadejda_Mountbatten%2C_Marchioness_of_Milford_Haven_(LOC_ggbain.16855).jpg > You may scoff at my going through this but do the research on their lives and you will notice their background had influence on their rank or inheritance. It is that simple. What is the problem? In modernity in the USa, the aracial philosophy that many aspire to, suggest that any system that disallows individuals is by default an extremely negative system. The Casta/Lineages determining inheritances all are against individual rights, which is what the writer by her own words above champions and it appears in her screenplay. But it is misplaced in the context of France during Joseph Bologne's time. Said France isn't the USA 2023. White people in France duing said time did not freely intermarry with each other. The caste/rank/lineage mattered to those with money, rightyl or wrongly, so to suggest a modern sentiment is a falsehood historically. But, is artistically acceptable. But notice it is both and how that relates commercially. This movie didn't shake up the world. 7:43 yes, European countries in the 1700s , 1800s , had very small black populaces, so small the term negligible can be applied. And in Europe, the peasant, the descendant of the White statian was the lowest class. And to be blunt, while blacks could never be considered royals in europe at that time, i argue, from Gannibal to Thomas Alexandre, while they were never regals in europe, to suggest they lived liked white peasants in europe is a lie. And I argue, that modern Black people living in white countries: usa or in western europe, falsely attribute to them an equality goal when I think they merely did what all did in the regale system of europe which is social climb. 99% knew they will never be the crowned but the goal of all was to reach for it. And the playground in between the regale and the no name peasant is where the action was. 8:50 yes that was a funny modernity. BUt I will say this, if that conversation did happen, I would had loved to hear that back in the day. Pourquoi n'epouser pas un Africain ? 10:30 exactly or white peasants. 10:46 yes, the white father in marie antoinette's time gave the black father after ronald reagan in the usa time speech, very tropy:) of Robinson, I wish I knew if that was true. 12:46 To be fair, Europe had a long history of art destroying, ala bonfires, through religious movements or wars and the period commonly called the french revolution <remember bastille day is a lie> was chaotic to no end. 14:46 yes at the end of the day I see in chevalier, Robinson as a fellow artist who by her own admission is contained in a multiracial while unfair media environment <hollywood> or country <usa> stating how the strategy of non violent artistically endeavored growth is a tradition for black people in white countries and the friction that provides said black folk with their phenotypical peers <like his mother who questions his intents or desires> or the white people with whom he wants to be embrace <marie antoinette's court>. Now none of his life is easily confirmed. But, from what I comprehend from a distance, the real guimard, whom he spurned, had influence over the court and undermined him in getting the opera position. While, the real Marie Josephine was abandonned by her husband in real life. I wonder why Robinson chose the style of interpreting them. For someone so interested in universalism, why not admit the woman Chevalier snubbed, Guimard, the daughter of an out of wedlock relationship some call love child, was bitter and worked against him. Robinson makes her more of an after thought when I think a great lesson in their relationship of two people born into low classes where he rejects and in her bitterness as any woman may have, used her influence to go against him a little. While the woman he supposedly wanted, married to an Soldier engineer but a man whose financial fortunes went up and down, had a baby whose destiny is unknown. Robinson choses to caricature Marc Rene into a Simon Legree light. I could be totally wrong on the history of Bologne but if what I know from gossip is true, I think how she constructed the relationship between the Chevalier side Guimaud/Marie Josephine/MArie Antoinette is her free artistic choice but doesn't align to her publicized viewpoints. I do think the mugging of him side his friend which is actually on record, though the source is uncertain, would had been a great tool to the power of universalism. Bologne fenced more and had, to be blunt, more complicated affairs than Robinson lets on and denies Bologne's life, even in a fictional nondocumentarian interpretation, the seat at the table or the absence of a filter she says she warrants or can provide as an artist in her modern workplace.
  21. Troy, it's funny how earlier this morning I was expressing my distrust of many online pay methods.....just a few minutes after I made my post THIS brutha (Rizza Islam) discussed a new Black owned online payment method that was getting ready to be launched. He briefly mentions it in this interview:
  22. richardmurray Where in humanity do adults not get into altercations? And where else on the planet do women pull out knives and start attacking strange men when they are in a fight with someone else? And where else on the planet do men who get into fights casually walk over to their jackets to pull out gats? These things are pretty much an uniquely urban American phenomena...lol. But I find it strange for all of this to be happening when you supposedly have: 1. NYPD 2. NYPD Transit Police 3. National Guard 4. Guardian Angels??? ....."protecting" the subways. It makes me question the effectiveness of all 4 organizations or what they're really there for. If I go out in the street with a knife and start waving it wildly yelling babble , even though cameras are everywhere in nyc, and I am not harming anyone. People like pioneer in my local offline populace will say, "that boy crazy , where are the cops" and will call the cops , Absolutely. You know how you can predict that so easily? Because we still live in a pretty civil society and this is what MOST responsible adults would do. Now you can do that down in Haiti right now and NOBODY would call anyone on you....probably because there's nobody to call, lol. You can't even call GHOST BUSTERS down there at this moment...lol. Is THAT what you want for New York? People running around with metal poles and sticks in their hands setting piles of tires and trash on fire and running off grinning, for no reason? the media will say an endangerment to the community. Mayor adams will say, another example of mental health decay. A single black man angry , waving a knife , yelling is the great symbol of crime. ANY angry man with a knife screaming and yelling is enough to alarm and scare the average citizen. You don't know WHAT his mental state is or what he might do WITH that knife. What if he was angry at YOU or staring at your WIFE or KIDS while yelling and babbling with the knife in his hand? We can discuss how the police should respond to it but the police SHOULD be armed and able to quickly take that angry sucka down if they have to. And when i think about it, i remember how a black teenager was killed by law enforcement for doing just that. Two law enforcers , both carrying guns i might add, had no recourse but to shoot a teenage boy with a kitchen knife, said boy was not holding a hostage, wasn't attacking anyone directly, he was in his anger on the street, and yes, someone like pioneer had called the cops to the scene in the first place. Several points.......... 1. Can teenage boys KILL people with knives? 2. What the hell was that teenage boy DOING with the damn knife in the first place? 3. When the police arrived on the scene, did they tell him to drop the knife? 4. If the boy was Black, hasn't he been hearing since the time he was a little child that Black males have been targeted by some racist cops so he should be careful? You must ask all of these questions to figure out how that boy ended up getting shot. In Columbus Ohio several years ago there was a situation where police killed a Black teenage girl/woman who ran out of the house with a knife to attack another one. When they shot her people were jumping up and down over how terrible and unjustified it was and how they could have talked to her. Some people you CAN talk to...other's are moving so quick and so angry you have only time to make a move. That girl/woman ran out of the house to chop the shit out of that other girl she was fighting with. We should interview and ask THAT Black girl she was about to stab, should the police have used deadly force. The police probably saved HER life! If you want a society where the cops don't exist, go down to Haiti and spend a few weeks down there and when you come back let's see if your position is the same....lol. Let's build a society and try to govern it OURSELVES first before nominating ourselves "experts" on law enforcement procedures.
  23. From Movies That Move We Richard Murray's Corner Episode 1 The Blood of Jesus TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00 Good Morning, Good Afternoon, Good Evening, wherever you are listening. I am Richard Murray and this is the first episode in the series in Movies That Move We, I call Richard Murray's Corner. The goal of this series is to provide a talk on the oldest Black Cinema, cinema defined as film. I define , I define, you may concur or not, Black Cinema as films that have a majority of Black control or involvement in all aspects of creation. So , in this series, when I say Black Cinema I do not include things like video recordings of Porgy and Bess, a white written story. Or a film like the WIZ whose script was written by schumacher , based on a play whose stage script was written by William Brown , another white person, while both stage or film were primarily financed by twentieth century fox. And for the record I support the WIZ stageplay or film. The point is not to criminalize or oppose multiracial collaborations in film, but to focus on all or nearly all Black collaborations in film in the past. I have learned in my experience that White produced art involving Black people is usually different than Black produced art involving Black people. I use "Shuffle Along" in opposition to "Porgy and Bess". Here is the talk to the film, the WIZ ,on Movies That Move We < https://www.facebook.com/687782856/videos/10158170810782857/ > I end with, this irregular timed series will focus on said Black Cinema. Old as possible and as much Black involvement as possible. ... I begin, not with an Oscar Micheaux film but with a work entitled the "Blood Of Jesus" ; Written/Directed/Co Produced by Spencer Williams, the other producer was a white jew named Alfred N Sack who owned theaters and had distribution deals. Remember, all films outside of private made autodocumentarian films involving one subject made by produced or crafted by the same person are collaborative art projects, always. You need other people to work on the film or produce it / to get to theaters/ or to handle distribution , for ninety nine percent of films in all humanity, all the woods together, sequentially why you need so much money on average. Well, Now I will present the introduction to the film , The Blood Of Jesus . 00:02:55 Video segment 01 00:04:10 Ok, This movie I chose for various reasons, artistically. The theme of the presence of the Black Christian Community, which at one time was nearly synonomous to the entire Black community in the USA, in films involving Black people is clearly shown here. When you think about shows like Power from Fifty Cent or Sanford and Son or films like The Five Heartbeats or the Blues Brothers the film heritage of mentioning the Black Christian Community in the USA when a Black character is present is embedded in Black Cinema itself. It isn't a caraciture by White artist applied to Black people. If anything a telling thing is how lesser the quantity of Black Christian references are in modern film involving Black people. Alright, onto the next segment 00:05:01 Video segment 02 00:06:59 The link to the film in completion is at the bottom of the transcript, if you want to know why the Black man was running. All I will say is, jesting at the Black Christian culture isn't untold or unheard of in Black Cinema. So,whenever someone Black tells you what shouldn't be done, please refer to this film. Now, another thing, the showing of the shoulder, by Cathryn Caviness playing Sister Martha Ann Jackson, was deemed in 1941 risque. Yes in modern, 2023 , standards this is nothing. But, in 1941 for a woman to show shoulders was deemed by some indecent, or others tawdry. Alright, onto the next segment 00:07:44 Video segment 03 00:08:45 Yes, Juanita Riley playing Sister Jenkins knows Ras is lying. But what is most interesting is how muted the Black women treat the Black man who is a criminal. In the 2007 film Pride, the character played by Kimberly Elise reacts so vibrantly when she discovers the character portrayed by Terrence Howard was in an altercation with law enforcement and went to prison. Yes, Ras has stolen. He can't even keep the species of creature he killed the same in his storytelling. But the Black women don't act like the world has fallen, which is a very modern movie trope involving Black characters in cinema. Either we are not breaking the law to live better and overreact at the sight of the law being breaking or we are breaking the law to live better and we are unconcerned with anything... am I my brother's keeper. right? What movie is that from? Hint , Black Director, aided in financing by Clint Eastwood. Alright onto the next segment 00:09:52 Video segment 04 00:11:16 Remember in First Sunday when Tracy Morgan said, Jesus is looking at me. I couldn't resist. But love the honesty in the action. An old gun, not upkept well cause folk don't have even anything to eat can trigger like that. A pure accident but warranted. Alright , onto the next segment 00:11:54 Video segment 05 00:12:30 I have seen Christian Heaven depicted in many films, and I can not recall one that had spirits walking up to the gates of heaven from earth. If you pay attention, the spirits are not flying, they are walking... on the clouds, to the gates of christian heaven. I can not verify but this scene was supposedly made from scenes from the 1911 italian film L'iInferno. I watched the italian film, it was very augmented to create this scene. < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Inferno > To the scene construction, don't take it negatively, if you are Black. I think the message is interesting. The message is, even if our spirits when dead do not have wings, we can walk on clouds to get to heaven, and that is alright. I think it is a message about what the afterlife means to many Black people then. The afterlife isn't a place of getting what you never had. The afterlife is a place of being free from enslavement, from restriction, from disability through human involvement. In parallel, the film L'inferno is about punishment. Alright, onto the next segment 00:13:49 Video segment 06 00:15:11 The acting by Cathryn Caviness slowly dying at peace is well done,take a look at the full film. But I hope you enjoyed the special effects. The angel is played by Rogenia Goldthwaite, thus she has wings. So, it wasn't that Black Angels didn't have wings, but when Black people go to christian heaven, it is interpreted differently. Alright onto the next segment 00:15:40 Video segment 07 00:17:23 I know the film is old but I will love if anyone can comprehend for sure the highway of light or life. It looks like a video of an urban city at night. I love how the angel left no nonsense. It is all up to you. Simple instructions. Right is good, Left is bad. Poor Judas. That name has been criminalized. Satan clearly. Judas Green, knowing both my parents mothers, he would had been in trouble the second he said that to them so they clearly evaded his machinations. Doesn't the angel sound like Phyliccia Rashad when she interviews people. Alright onto the next segment 00:18:07 Video segment 08 00:21:09 The funny thing about the bar scene, before this segment, outside the nice three individual acts: tap dance/acrobat/singing is not one criminal act is present. It is just Black people hanging out in a bar. Even Sister Jackson, who has been persuaded by Judas Green to join the character, Gambler, is wearing a cross. The second spot where the segment comes from, which is alluded to as farther down, is just that a spot. The heater in the center of the dance floor suggest this is almost a converted shack, not an a urban nightclub. Love the dancing. Notice no necklace with a cross on Sister Green now. On a musical note, it is clear Jazz side Blues were equally deemed temptation music unlike like Gospel in the black community. I think one of the unique cultural elements is how the road to temptation isn't an extremely cruel path. At the end of the day, she is in a spot where women get money to dance and give a little nooky to men. The funny thing is all of these people are spirits. Alright onto the next segment 00:22:44 Video segment 09 00:27:17 Interesting perspective how on the crossroads, you have spirits like the gambler, happily engaging in acts of theft and lying. The female thief spirit, just successfully suckered the male spirits. Again, if you think of High John the Conqueror or the Devil's Daughter, I argue, Black people, had created a secular mythology which treated tricking and the ability of devils to do good or be content , less sinful and more a part of life or acceptable. Against the religious fervor of Black Christianity. Alright onto the next segment 00:28:00 Video segment 10 00:30:09 Very much an interesting painting, the black woman lying at the base of the cross slightly on the right side. Look at the size of those stones used. Let he who is without sin cast the first boulder. We do not see hell in this film or heaven, it can argue purgatory is seen. Which meansthe spirits in the middle are in a limbo. Alright onto the next segment 00:31:01 Video segment 11 00:34:06 The Blood of Jesus has the ability to return someone from the crossroads of the spirit world, after proclaimed dead in the living world, but before a soul makes a choice at the crossroads. Like the film Body and Soul < https://archive.org/details/body-and-soul_202107 > , the first film for Paul Robeson, an Oscar Mischeux film, the theme of Black Women traversing between worlds is common. An interesting note, the body wasn't removed immediately after the sheet was put over the head. Which makes sense, people didn't move the proclaimed deceased immediately to the ground or the fire. Blood Of Jesus, free to view in completion < https://archive.org/details/blood_of_jesus > Happy Juneteenth 2023 A free screenplay for you to enjoy https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-nyotenda If you are interested in a collection of Black fables https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/sunset-children-stories #moviesthatmovewe #richardmurrayscorner #juneteenth #bloodofjesus #film #screenplay
  24. ProfD The generations who received their teachings and messages figured AfroAmericans were better off with integration and civil rights and affirmative action. Well, to be honest brutha I'm having THIRD thoughts about those programs now. I had SECOND thoughts about them years ago when I thought that they were really used to trick Black folks and make our people think they were really being accepted into society. Now, that's not my focus. Perhaps they were, but I look at how many OTHER groups of color have benefited from integration and the Civil Rights movement and Affirmative Action programs and am beginning to wonder if THEY are the problem or some of our people the real problem as to why they haven't benefited much. The fact is SOME of our people...many...actually have benefited from these programs. So I wouldn't reverse them or get rid of them. Integration (so-called) didn't FORCE Black folks to give up their land and businesses. Many of them CHOSE to....and support White businesses. I can't blame integration for that because nobody forced them to shut down their own hotels and grocery stores. White women benefited more from Affirmative Action than our people because they HELPED EACHOTHER when they got into positions from it. Did we do the same? So now I can't even get angry over Affirmative Action because it did what it was supposed to do....did we? Over the several decades, there's been no shortage of brilliant AfroAmericans who have matriculated through institutions of higher learning and they've pursued all types of careers. True. We have a lot of brilliant minds. Many of them are working for White folks because our people don't have enough institutions ourselves to provide them with decent well beneficial employment. IMO, AfroAmericans do not lack intelligence or work ethic. There's no vision plan or design for what we need. Theres no champion or leadership. Some do....some don't. Those are just the facts. Some of our people are just plain stupid...dumb. No way of getting around this. In my opinion, the best strategy is to make a way for them to sustain themselves or sustain them if they are to the point of intellectual disability. But the intelligent of our people MUST take charge of the community. AfroAmericans can cover every position on the team. We just need motivation and incentive. Most smart people tend to ALREADY be motivated and driven based on the needs they see around them. Why does a community with failing schools where the ceiling and walls are crumbling and their is no toilet paper in the stalls need MORE of an incentive to roll up their sleeves and build their own schools and educate their own children? You can't motivate a ZOMBIE. Don't even waste your time. At some point we MUST organize the few among us and move on. I bet we could get a whole bunch of those same lazy people to work on building that hospital or school just by dangling a lucrative hourly rate. You dangle money infront of the WRONG nicca and that hospital you want built will be needed sooner than you think....lol. That's why I keep telling richardmurray that the police are NEEDED in our community. Preferably a Black police force but if Black men don't want to stand up....WHO'S gonna do it???? Somebody has to keep order in the community and atleast PRETEND like they're protecting the children. It's a damn shame White men have to do it so often when we know they aren't sincere about keeping it safe. But to your point about paying them a good wage............ Some....yes. But most of them wouldn't work if you paid them $100 an hour. Put them on the site and some tools in their hand and promise them $100 an hour plus bonuses for completing the project early and...... Come back next week the tools are gone, blood is all over the construction site, and the police has the entire place taped off. We gotta leave dead weight behind bro......
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