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ProfD Don't need a paycheck as long as basic needs are met. True. What modern society functions like this, though? What nation can we point to as an example where the majority of people (not a wealthy few) are getting their basic needs met without working for pay? Sure. They've imported them the same way white folks allow immigrants to work here. See...there you go. They need workers so they are IMPORTING immigrants to do the menial and manual labor jobs. Now how do you think that will work out in the United States? Especially for AfroAmericans? That's by design especially in capitalistic systems. Well, show me a nation with a system Socialist, Communist, or otherwise where most of the people of that nation DON'T have to work for a living. It may be ideal, but I'd like a living example to KNOW it works. The economy is predicated on people spending money. Doesn't matter how they get it. Part of it. The other part is producing goods and services for people to spend that money on. Even if everything is manufactured OUTSIDE the U.S., someone still has to drive the trucks to move the goods, open up the stores to sell them, and operate the gas station to fuel the cars and trucks that move them. A whole lot more than 2.8 million people live beyond comfortably well with less than $10 million I agree.

@Steinsman yes I have.. I can't say I have anything I am expecting highly, but as a writer, i give all movies a chance. Anything you are expecting to see? @aka Contrarian it doesn't matter how late, glad your here. a chocolate fred astaire, nice language not just difficult, nat king cole found it impossible to attract sponsors but not viewers , funny how today, viewers dictate sponsors so you like bebop or st louis versions of jazz, more than big band, ragtime, experimental, smooth or other versions of jazz. you propose a question i don't know the answer to. Is the percentage of black thespians in media: film/tv/music/stage combined greater than the percentage of black people in the usa? I don't know. The statistical answer to the question you posed lay in said questions answer. I remember years back someone white said no one in the usa, including white christians has better representation than white jews. and I thought about it. Considering white jews represent a very very small fraction of the population in the usa, their representation in media is way above their percentage. So it is possible for Black people to have a greater percentage of media representation than the populace. Well, most people in media follow scripts in the usa in general. I argue modern media in the usa has become inflexible to those who do not. You shouldn't feel guilty at all. At least in my opinion. The black populace in the usa ha s multiple traditions, concerning black relationship to the usa or the whites in it. Nat Turner/Frederick Douglass/WEB Dubois when younger/Booker T Wahsington/ The Exodusters/Garvey all lived at the same time. Each had a different relationship to whites. Turner felt whites should be killed/Douglass embraced as fellow citizens\Dubois an anchor for a minority of wealthy blacks to lead the majority of blacks/Washington an aid for blackpeopele to improve their segregated side of the street/Exodusters as rivals and only business partners for black growth in black towns or cities/Garvey as people whose presence black people should never live around. You said you feel guilty but no reason exists for that. I think you are in the spirit of frederidk douglass. The problem is our village in the usa or beyond hasn't accepted how to functionalize paths that don't work together. Douglass would love BArack obama. He is the embodiment of douglass dream. A phenotypically mixed heritage person, married to a DOSer , embraced by the DOS tribe int eh village while coming from the continent on on eside or the white statian on the other. Composite America speech is about what obama embodies. Does this mean I am in the spirit of Douglass, no I am not. But I comprehend that such path isn't wrong, jsut isn't mine. We black people have a hard time accepting that. And to be fair, Douglass like WEB Dubois greatest negativity in their lives was neither was able to accept other black ways. Douglass worked so hard to keep black people in the underground railroad from going to canada. SPoke against the exodusters and it was selfish of him. He wanted to prove the black populace could grow and thrive about whites in big northern cities. The ways of the black freedman or garvey leaving the usa or developing all black towns are both clearly segregatory and was against his firm integrationist beliefs, but that was selfish. Dubois never should had spoken against Garvey, again, it was selfish. Dubois hated the idea of leaving the usa for a black country. Not cause he hated black people but he liked the integrated environment. And like Douglass or Dubois you growing up and even now like it too, and nothing is wrong with that. As I have said to black militants or my fellow garveyites. If you want to kill all the whites like nat turner go ahead. the black populace in the usa has a long tradition of revenge against whites. If you want to leave the usa for a black country somewhere, go ahead. I know black people offline, who have left the usa and live in black countries happy. It can happen. Nothing is easy but it can happen. but, If you want the usa to be a multiphenoyptical country with individual rights for all spurred on nonviolently, go ahead. That is what MLK jr did post Douglass or dubois. That is what obama did post mlk jr. and when you see the black people integrating in the usa to whites in various levels, it is that way. You have lived your life your way, Contrarian:) i am happy for you. Feel pride not guilt in your way, and the tribe in the village you are apart of that is in my view stronger than most others. While also, smile for the other tribes, even if they are fleeting of member or faulty in structure, wish them tell. Be happy for them. Your not crazy. At least not to me. And as long as there is life there is hope. You can speak your mind in my post any time. I am not into name calling. And I believe in positive sharing. I hope you had pleasant dreams

Troy Several times you've mentioned "this omniscient being". Should I take that to mean you don't believe in God? Where did you learn about the NDE experiences of these people a book, YouTube? Both. I've been studying them for years. All you have to do is ASK some of the people you know who've been in traumatic situations where they've been unconscious for an extended period of time and some of them may have some experiences to share with you too! Did they also explain why people would come back to be beheaded starve to death, die in infancy, and be raped and tortured? Did they explain what these experiences would provide them? Yes. According to many of them, every experience has a reason behind it. ProfD Now I'm wondering if I should feel slighted that I've not been able to participate in the near death experience and jumping around in different realities games. How do you know you haven't? One Multi-Reality theory claims that every single move is part of a different Reality. Their theory claims you're constantly moving through BILLIONS of Realities each moment.

Hummmm. I dont know why I'm a "Johnny-come-lately" to this thread because I grew up during the golden era of Hollywood, and musicals were a major part of what was shown on the "silver screen" aka the movie theaters which brought the land of dreams right into neighborhoods all over Amrica. I go waaaay back with this subject and I literally had a front row seat to what was being shown back in the day for public entertainment at the cost of a 10-cent admission fee. Only, I didn't even have to pay that because my mother worked as a ladies' room attendent at the local movie theater in my idyllic little midwestern home town located 20-something miles west of Chicago. So, I was able to do what we called "going to the show" for free. As a mere child, before TV was ever heard of, I was a regular movie-goer and the first musical film I remember seeing in 1939 was "The Wizard of Oz", which was made even more spectacular because it was in technicolor, a new technology in the movie industry! From then on, I was hooked on musicals and whenever I accompanied my mother to do her chores in the mornings before the theater opened, I would tap dance up and down the winding marble stair case that was a center piece in this beautiful palace that featured the classical architecture style of movie houses back then. All that was missing was a chocolate Fred Astaire to complete my impression of Ginger Rogers! A few years later in the mid 1940s, I was thrilled to view one of the first full length motion pictures with an all black cast; a musical entitled "A Cabin in the Sky" starring the legendary Lena Horne! It was full of mugging black stereotypes but enjoyable nonetheless. When TV came on the scene during the early '50s, black folks became more visible in the public eye, doing what they were deemed to be best at doing; grinnin and singin' and dancin'. Nat Cole even had his own TV show but it didn't last long because his being black made it difficult to attract sponsors. Yes, Flip Wilson was successful in captivating audiences during the '60s, and it suffices to say that a lot of this was due to the "Geraldine" character he played in drag. What really fostered an appreciation for musical theater back then was the long running Don Cornelius' Soul Train TV show, featuring Motown, R&B, and Pop recording artists performing their hits and, of course, the legendary soul train line that provided a mini-musical show case for a parade of all the latest steps and improvised dance moves. Over the years my taste for musicals did, as the poster Steinsman suggested, change. The music I eventually came to prefer was JAZZ which I wanted to hear played by small combos, or sung by sultry songtresses in dim, intimate, little venues charging a 2-drink minimum cover charge. And so it goes... I liked the original "Color Purple" movie and the musical version of it on stage also. When the remake of it debuted, I had little interest in seeing it. It's now available on cable TV but I'd much prefer to watch the movie about Bayard Rustin who I remember from his role in organizing the March on Washington during the Civil Rights era which I also lived through... Nowadays, black folks are almost over represented in the entertainment industry. There they were recently, as they have been for the past few years, on stage at all the award shows, clutching their trophies, fighting back tears, blubbering about how, as a child watching movies and TV, they had yearned to see people "who looked like them" on camera and now, here they were, being recognized for their talent, bringing their testimonies to a close by urging all the young black kids out there to hold on to their dreams, blah, blah, blah, (and not to worry about losing weight because being fat is now "in" ) . I do feel guilty because, as a child, all I cared about was a good story and if white folks were striving to impress me and everybody else with their talent, so be it. If these expectations were fulfilled in an all-black movie, that was even better. But I never cared about seeing a black James Bond any more than I wanted to watch a white guy playing John Shaft. Now I'm a crazy old lady who can't half see or hear, hobbling around, only bothering to watch the news, and documentaries and true crime prorams and listen to music from by gone days with strong melodies and exquisite lyrics, still cheering on the local sports teams, but not really looking forward to what the future holds. C'est la vie. Well, I've rambled and reminisced long enough. The ol night owl is ready to pack it in. Good Evening. zzzzzzzzz

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It's fascinating how our preferences change as we grow older, isn't it? Musicals, especially those on film, might not have been your thing when you were younger, and that's totally understandable. It's all about personal taste! Have you had a chance to see what movies are out right now? Perhaps there's a gripping drama or another genre that aligns more with your current interests. Variety is the spice of life when it comes to choosing what to watch!

At Present the US is having Border Issue.....Drugs and Migrants Over 50 million Americans use TikTok as their main source of News(information) and entertainment(influence)....TikTok is owned by a Chinese Company with heavy Governmental Oversight. You would be right to call them.....Militias. Also none of the above is proof of truth. It was The Clintons who destroyed Haitian Agriculture and Bill took responsibility for it....but has yet to commit to a remediation plan of action instead the situation is being exasperated. Since the Market for local Goods is destroyed...Nothing will sell that is locally grown - Making locally grown food unprofitable as cheap mass produced and heavily subsidize food is flooding the local market from Arkansas/USA. How you going to build hospital/schools or infrastructures when you Starving and if you do how are to pay workers teachers /nurses/doctors and buy medicine/supplies...with the enemy/US only too happy to destroy all your good effort. Since his invasion in 1994, Clinton has completely destroyed the structure of Haitian agriculture. In 1995 he forced the nation to drop tariffs on rice imported from America. Haiti dropped its import tariffs on rice from 50% to 3%. Clinton claimed this move would help Haiti jump into the "Industrial Era." Yet even before Clinton took this action, experts were well aware of the consequences: “An export-driven trade and investment policy has the potential to relentlessly squeeze the domestic rice farmer. This farmer will be forced to adapt, or (s)he will disappear.” –quoted in Lisa McGowan, [January 1997] REPORT HERE (PDF) After adopting Clinton's policies, Haiti became the fourth-largest importer of rice from the U.S, even though they were the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Most of the imported rice came from Clinton's home state in Arkansas. Today, Haiti is the fifth largest importer of American rice in the world, even though their population is just 10 million. Back in the 1970's Haiti imported only 19% of its food. When Haiti shut out the global markets, they were self sufficient and managed to feed a majority of their population while producing trade surpluses. Yet now Haiti imports over 80% of its rice from the U.S. Due to the new trade agreements, one ton of Haitian rice is now $300 more expensive than American rice on the Haitian market. This has devastated Haiti's ability to feed itself and be self sufficient. Haiti has 700,000 hectares of underutilized arable land, but still suffers from chronic trade deficits and food insecurity as a result of Clinton's policies. BILL CLINTON: Since 1981, the United States has followed a policy, until the last year or so when we started rethinking it, that we rich countries that produce a lot of food should sell it to poor countries and relieve them of the burden of producing their own food, so, thank goodness, they can leap directly into the industrial era. It has not worked. It may have been good for some of my farmers in Arkansas, but it has not worked. It was a mistake. It was a mistake that I was a party to. I am not pointing the finger at anybody. I did that. I have to live every day with the consequences of the lost capacity to produce a rice crop in Haiti to feed those people, because of what I did. Nobody else. https://www.worldfuturefund.org/reports/haiti/clintonhaiti.html Yes and Yes

@Pioneer1 according to Google incorrigible has been used 9 times in 15 years, roughly once every year and a half. Hardly worth mentioning. The word is oh so apropos. If you rolled in more educated circles I’d suspect you’d hear it not often as far as your response. You engaged and a great deal of linguistic gymnastics and dragged out your Multiverse argument which you drag out to explain away anything as it encompasses all possibilities . the idea that we can move between any of the universes we want does not make sense to me, as I doubt anyone would pick their current situation knowing there are an infinite number of better positions they could be in.

ProfD It's easy to protest against the promotion of violence and dysfunction in music and movies. I wonder why the Nation of Islam and other Black organizations aren't protesting against it. I showed you the video of Dr.Wesley Muhammad exposing the nefarious plot to negatively influence Black youth through frequency in the music as well as promoting violence and criminality. Our late sister Delores Tucker headed a campaign back in the 90s to check some of these gangster rappers who were promoting violence and criminality in the community, but she didn't get the support or recognition I thought she deserved. The wholistic approach means attacking the system responsible for the conditions. Well, as mentioned earlier....some of the conditions weren't caused by the system. It was caused by a jacked up brain...lol. Some people engage in crime and violence simply because they are twisted and fucked up in head. Even under "good" conditions, they'd still be getting in trouble and ruining the neighborhood...until somebody stops their ass. Mental health is a very real issue in America that isn't being addressed well enough. ....that being said. I'm not going to let somebody come to MY apartment complex or neighborhood and walk around acting a fool and using his mental condition as an excuse. Too bad. Although the system isn't doing what it's supposed to do and take care of those with serious problems, people still have to live and be safe and must defend themselves against the "walking dead". I would not be surprised. I'm sure Detroit is one of those cities that has an enclave of successful Black folks living in the suburbs of it. Not just in the suburbs, but inside the city itself there are several wealthy upper middle class and wealthy Black neighborhoods. Infact, there is a Black actor...Harper Hill....who is running for U.S. senator of Michigan who lives in one of them. I think he's trying to pull and Obama move and is using Michigan as his launching pad like Obama used Illinois.

@Pioneer1 my friend, you are the very definition of incorrigible. i’ll make it plain. If the omniscient being you believe in knows every move we will ever make. How would they know it unless it was predetermined?

Most intelligent Black folks already have........... The time has come to stop going in circles and preaching the same common sense to the walking dead. If they didn't have sense enough to "get it" after 60 years or preaching the same things over and over to them, it's time to pack our things and move on.

ProfD It's already happened to a degree with integration several decades ago. Most intelligent Black folks do not live among the riff raff elements of our race. They've moved to middle-class and better suburbs and other enclaves of well to do Black folks. Yes, to a certain extent. However a few problems with how they're doing it CURRENTLY IS: 1. Even if the intelligent and decent Black family moves away from the hood to live a peaceful and stable life, often times their CHILDREN are heavily influenced by music, movies, and their friends to go BACK the hood and engage in that foolishness. 2. Too many single sistas who make it out the ghetto and move on to live a decent life will BRING a no good thuggish boyfriend or brother/sister or some other dysfunctional friend or family member with them to that environment and they'll fuck it up. 3. The Black man who makes it out the hood will often find a White woman as a mate and produce a bunch of mixed children and completely alienate himself not just from the BAD element of the AfroAmerican community but from the AfroAmerican community as a whole! Troy where exactly do work man Lol, I work in a warehouse distribution center.

Day 2 part 2 Tiya Miles in conversation with Brenda M. Greene < https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Brenda+M.+Greene > Tiya Miles is the author of the book "The Cherokee Rose" about various Black people who find themselves on a reservation with a threat https://aalbc.com/books/home.php?isbn13=9780593596425 https://aalbc.com/books/home.php?isbn13=9781324020875 GQ- Greene Question MA- Miles Answer My thoughts GQ Why inspired plus brief synopsis? MA Family of enslaved black women, a member sewed their story into a sack, based on a real sack. The sack was found by a white woman in nashville in a bin of things for twenty dollars. Signed by middleton. The middleton's are white people from england through barbados, still rich and have a foundation today. The white woman said she was given a vision to give the sack back to the plantation but she could had made more money if it was auctioned. Sack was on in the smithsonian now it is in the middleton foundation. In my own home we have items of bloodline history that is uncommon. I wonder how many similar items have been destroyed or thrown away by black people since the end of the war between the states. GQ What about embroidery? MA It was viewed as a white woman's pastime. A symbol of high femininity by whites, in a phenotypically judged way, not for black women. Miles first saw the sack as an object but progressed two stages to see it as an art. She question the sack is back south. The item that is a symbol of a black bloodline leaving the south, escaping the south is not back in the south, charleston, on a plantation. The black bloodline fled to philadelphia to freedom with the sack originally. The Foundation now has a black middleton side white middleton reunion plus a scholarship for descended of enslaved. Whites deem black women masculinized, as in unnaturally physically strong, ala the black woman , who was a happy enslaved, hitting black men with a broom in birth of a nation. If you recall the scene she is so strong that she can successfully fight against a horde of black men, who never once harm her, fleeing from her broom. In parallel the imagery suggest a continued stupidity or physical weakness, femininized, in the black male populace. The question is what is the true feeling and place of the southern states to DOSers in the black populace in the usae. I know a black man recently suggested the south should be a place of strength, regardless of its past. But I think it is fair to argue the south and the greater usa is a place of historic pain that black DOSers in the black populace in the usa have the right to choose to embrace. GQ Explain the process to write the book? MA The sack was the best or primary source. The book was an unwise undertaking with so few sources. But she got help from an anthropologist. Mark LASTNAME. The Middleton foundation had assessed the material the sack was made of. She looked for a woman named Rose with a girl named Ashley. Rose was a popular name. While, ashley was a name given to white men mostly at that time. She found one ashley had connection to one rose in the region. She can never know what is on the mind of people living today so knowing the mind of people living in the past is farther off. But she used slave narratives to guide to the mindset Ashley or Rose might had. She was very lucky. The whole point of the recording history of enslavement by whites in the usa was to delete links to the past for black people living or in the future. That was the point. That is why I wonder why it is so hard to get black people in the usa or wherever we have been enslaved which is , everywhere on earth in the last three hundred years to keep a better genealogical or bloodline log to themselves. GQ Why are relationships complicated between indigenous people side Blacks MA American slavery. She wants slavery on the land commonly called the usa to be represented for the expansive institution it was and expansive mutating legacy it is. The lands of the usa are not everyone's they are indigenous lands. She focused in the book on south east indigenous nations and the slavery within them. The enslavement of blacks by native americans is complex. For example, a native american named Shoeboots purchased a black woman named Doll. Why is their story important? Cherokee law makers in the 1700s , not wanting to be classed aside blacks by whites, made laws to disassociate black indigenous people wholescale. Shoeboots sisters embraced their nieces plus nephews from Doll but the larger indigenous community did not. She calls these American stories which are part of composite stories. I have said it for a long time. The entire American continent , which includes the USA, is owned by the native american in my eyes. Now, some places like many islands in the caribbean have a completely deleted indigenous populace. But, every country that has an indigenous populace: USA/Canada/Brazil/Mexico/Venezuela/Peru plus most others have a living indigenous populace that in my mind is the proper owner of the countries land. And many Black people have told me offline or online how they oppose this position. But the truth is what they oppose. To accept the indigenous ownership of the land in the American continent is to reject the creation of a majority of the governments in the American continent and by rejecting said governments the logical next step is to ask where do the non indigenous in the american continent belong. And that question's answer ranges from overwhelming in function to terrifying in implementation for a majority of non-indigenous in the american continent. And all the talk about forebears or the laws value in determining the place of their descendants from white europeans, black dosers, willing immigrants legal or illegal are all dead in the water if you accept the truth that indigenous people of the american continent had their continent taken. So any government with indigenous has a majority non indigenous populace that is in modernity a functioning encroacher/pillager/defiler regardless of their mindset, until they leave the american continent and go back to a location of their descendants or themselves. And that migration by the non indigenous, in countries with indigenous people, to wherever they or their forebears came from is what is the most honest or truthful act that can occur in the american continent. And the lie against that act exposes the truth about most in the non indigenous in the american continent. The great Tecumseh asked indigenous people of the south east region to join him and they opposed. Tecumseh later died in the canadian forest fighting the usa. One of the many Indigenous side Black DOSer leaders whose goal was against the white populace in the usa or the british colonies that preceded it and the creation/growth/expansion of the USA, who were supported by the british militarily sometimes. The fact that said Indigenous or Black DOS leaders failed doesn't mean they were wrong or that their struggle should be deemed false. Like the Indigenous populace in the usa, the Black DOser populace once bereft of the leaders who fought against the whites with violence, or the usa at every iteration became populaces enslaved not merely physically but culturally to the usa. It is no accident that the modern indigenous or black dos populace in the usa are in majority USAphiles, Statianphiles, that is a result of the death of a majority of either of their populaces earliest leaders who were adamantly or strongly anti white plus anti usa and the following leadership by the appeasing or non violent, the fearful of whites who sheparded either populace successfully to the their modern forms. GQ Why the modern conflicts of who is black or who is indigenous MA Native peoples in the usa have been stripped completely and have many false clones , false indigenous people of all phenotypes, modernly called identity theft, for centuries. The Shoeboots side Doll's descendants plus others are overly questioned by indigenous with that centuries old legacy. . But many enslaved descendants are treated as a subclass on reservations. A place in the oklahoma territory is named Nigger Hill where many people who are descended from formerly enslaved in the native american nations. The situation reached even a greater negativity at the end of the war between the states. In her view the chrorkee have come the farthest in giving rights to descendants of enslaved. No answer satisfies all or insults none. This is the result again of a negative past with indigenous people or black dos that predates the creation of the usa and is really two unsettled blood feuds against whites. Why shouldn't Indigenous or Black DOS populaces mimic whites in the usa when the leadership of either populace that was truly against whites was long dead? Two populaces led by whitephiles for centuries are not going to arrive today absent a mimicry of white behavior. GQ Talk about Cherokee Rose MA She know someone who searched for indigenous roots and they were wrong in their assumption and felt embarrassed. In the USA, native american descendance is romanticized while Black DOS descendance is barbarized. Yes and both of those views are not universal in creation but from whites where the black dos or indigenous leaders aided or abetted in their own populaces. GQ Talk about Wild Girls? MA She made during the height of Covid. She talks of how Harriet Tubman was continually loaned as an enslaved girl, mercilessly. But Harriet TUbman said later in life, she felt her work in timber prepared her for the work to come. She was the only female. She listened to the men, learned of water flow, what is edible. Tubman learned from being outside and changed the world. Love Harriest Tubman. A legend and I argue absent proof that Tubman wanted black people to go all the way to canada more but Frederick Douglass, one of those USAphile black leaders corralled black people to suffer in the usa even though if all the black people who escaped enslavement in the usa would had gone to nova scotia, history would be very different today in a positive way for black people in nova scotia and i argue throughout north america. USAphile black leaders insistence through centuries that black people suffer whites throughout the usa is the self inflicted wound. ANSWERS FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER QUESTIONS TO TIYA Q - from audience Tiya Answer- her reply My thoughts Q What is difference between history and fiction? TA History means you don't need a plot. Many people in her offline life family, never read any of her books till she made a novel. Fiction has more room to find a way in. Invites people to feel. History makes arguments , doesn't have a built in promise to feel. This leads to two different audiences for fiction or history. Also the various populaces in the usa don't like the questions history poses to self. White people will say my family wanted betterment. But your family killed others, aided or abetted in harming others for that betterment. You forebears are heroes to you, while tyrants to others you don't want to acknowledge. Cause that means the opportunity or advantage you have comes from that tyranny, and the ignorance they presented to the descendants is not the act of a hero but a coward to ashamed to admit what they are or are apart of. Black people will say our people built the usa. But our people hated every second of it, wishing only in their hear to have it deleted. And they were made worse by tricking themselves or their children into buying into a lie of ownership when they knew fully well they never owned the usa or had ownership in it. Indigenous people will say they love america. But your forebears and the forebears of the cousins, the many more cousins who never got to be, were murdered by the usa and its predecessor. To love the usa is to forgive its murder of your own people, which either makes you a coward or a traitor. Immigrants will say, they came freely on their own with no desire to abuse. But only a self centered person will go to a new land absent knowing its true nature and then hide behind their individual greed or needs to warrant the move. You fled from your country instead of having the willingness/strength/daring to make it better for convenience to a land made by white europeans who were and are like yourself , and you call that a dream, while the heritage of the country you came to or the situation of the country you left you can't even acknowledge is a nightmare you aid in growing. Q What about hand craft? TA Experiencing what people make by hand is cherished. She took classes in college for sewing and her family loved the craft she made. In the USA a culture of electronic crafting is growing at such a rate, in the usa non electronic hand craft will have a lessening, not deletion but lessening. Q What steps should be taken to come together? TA John Stewart , the english governor of carolina , pre USA, in his writings admitted you can't allow bindings of indigenous people with black dos. Later in the usa, circa seminole wars, blacks fleeing georgia were strengthening the union of black dos side indigenous so laws were made to put at odds by giving allowances in the white system for one while not the other. Examples exist of indigenous abuses toward blacks but it must be comprehended they are not everywhere throughout the indigenous lands in a comparable way to the abused to blacks throughout white european lands. In her personal experience, indigenous people easily accept those they know who are indigenous while black but the people who are unverifiable becomes frustrating as well as problematic for the same indigenous people. After killing of George Floyd native american solidarity to blacks increased , not at the strength of the seminole movement in florida but stronger than recent past. The problem with labels is their misplacement. When I say indigenous, that is not a phenotypical label. that is about descendency. When I say Black that is a phenotypical label, it is about appearance. Connecting indigenous to white or non indigenous to black is where the errors come in. Q How to galvanize communities, bridge the gap? Her mother applied for a job as a nurse in the choctaw nation, saying she never embraced her indigenous roots. Her mother's experience was horrifying. She cried daily in tears. She herself identifies as black dos wholesale with no desire to claim her indigenous roots. What kind of conversation do we need to start having? TA She admits to things she will not speak publicly that occurred to her in montana.... she thinks sometimes we think their must be an affinity between indigenous side black. When she did research on indigenous people side black dos, she found the most binding heritage between the two people absent any near challenge is enslavement, the institution of slavery in the usa. The optimism of what should be accepted contradicts what happened in the past. But the fleeting stories can be inspiring or models. The best examples of bonding are when both are under the heel. For example when indigenous plus blacks were both enslaved a communion existed but when indigenous enslavement was outlawed or banned the indigenous community in majority fled. When historical winds are negative people choose to flow away from such winds. But she says small communication is the best at the moment. A black lady behind me said they think they are white anyway. And she is correct, but it goes back to Tecumseh. A people whose leaders that love them while hate their enemies when they are murdered and replaced by those that love them while also love the enemy creates a choice of convenience that truthfully while sadfully has led to the growth of whitephile or usaphile quantities in the indigenous or black dos populaces who are empowered by whites or the usa with advantage over the remainder of their populaces. It is not that indigenous or black dos do not have many who want to be white but the why is inevitable with said leadership in an environment controlled by their historic enemy. Yes, for me, the seminole wars, all four phases, is the most positive union between the indigenous side black dos populaces in the usa. No moment has a more positive union between indigenous or black people in north america and what is the situation. Both indigenous plus black dos are technically not in the USA but in spanish florida being given the right by the spanish to defend the lands as the spanish are impotent. Like the english before, or the french in some ways in louisiana, the white european continental powers gave situations that were far more favorable to indigenous or black people but the numbers of white european settlers and later statians was too great and overrun indigenous or black dos efforts through numbers. But how can modern indigenous or black dos populaces in the usa mirror the seminoles, which is a word signifying a collective of peoples, not just one, in spanish florida in opposition to the usa while in the usa? Look at Tecumseh again. At the end, he died in canada but his goal was in the usa or the usa to be. It is hard being anti usa in the usa. and , at least historically though i think modernly, if you are anti white then you are anti usa in the usa. Q Have you felt blocked in creating? TA She hasn't felt block but many scholars came before her. She has heard some scholars be formally discouraged cause the history may lead to a negative light. She idd not go to the Tsalagi and get their blessing for her book. She knew a writer who found intermarriage evidence between black dos side indigenous and Tsalagi told him to take it out and he did. She received negative communication from descendants of enslavers white or indigenous or others for the history she found wasn't what they knew or accepted or wanted as the main publicized or advertised narrative. But in her engagements she has never had people stay the same after discussing. When she started a native american scholar felt her book would destroy the native american populace but years later said she is thankful she wrote the book. Again, people in the usa, all phenotypes[black/white/mulatto/native], all descendencies [indigenous/european/african/asian/suth american/caribbean] have been bred on lies by those in the past in their own homes. Often with lies at the core of their relationship to the usa, or the whites to own it, and to disprove those lies is a bridge many are fearful of. Q How to transform the youth of today TA She feels a gap between herself and some members of her household. Her best guess is to bring younger people in a dual directional project. To learn the language of the youth and speak the communities needs or elders concerns in said language while elders allow young voices to change themselves. She admits, sadfully, she knows things she wish she will see, she will never see in her lifetime, she wish she will. And, governmental policy matter and the things people make matter. The culture matters and move all of these things into the political realm. I think a faster question and answer, plus more interactive will help. The kids are used to more speed, less sitting while more interaction , less absorbing. It isn't that the kids can't sit or absorb but they prefer either of those actions to be accompanied by said other. IN AMENDMENT Great Talk in my view, like the first day. Learned but a lot of truth. And wasn't a bad crowd to be fair.

3:06 i think more reality t.v. cause from my experience the money to make movies demands you talk to people who have money willing to lose, and said people want more surety. 5:53 independent films allow for the artistic acceptance even if it is financially against audience tastes. 7:52 the ability to gain experience in the arts differs on discipline. a painter can make a painting but a film maker needs to make and show a film which is more expensive. In conclusion that is the issue with projec greenlight, the process after a film is made matters

Here is a report posted on a thread I was participating in on Facebook. I found it not only interesting but frightening. Check it out The Hartmann Report DAILY TAKE The New "Over the Top" Secret Plan on How Fascists Could Win in 2024 Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election & Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November… THOM HARTMANN FEB 26, 2024 576 140 Back on March 13, 2020 — almost exactly four years ago — I wrote an article that was published at alternet.org laying out how Republicans were then, ten months before January 6th, planning to partially repeat the debacle of the election of 1876 by having Vice President Pence refuse to certify swing state votes and thus throw the election to the House to keep Trump in office, no matter how the election went. When I published the article ten months before January 6th, I received concerned and even alarmed communications from several Democratic strategists and a few elected officials who basically said they didn’t think there was any way Trump would try such an audacious move and, if he did, he wouldn’t get away with it. But I was right and that was exactly what Trump had up his sleeve. We saw it play out on January 6th. The only thing that stopped him was Pence’s unwillingness to go along with stealing an election. Now I’m hearing a new story from those same GOP insiders (as well as other commentators) about Trump’s schemes for 2024. Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election and Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November: First, Republicans need to make sure they’re in control of the House of Representatives on January 6th, 2025, when the new president will be certified. To do that, even though Democrats might have won enough seats to take back the House in the 2024 election, Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated. Consider that Johnson is still refusing to swear in Tom Suozzi (who recently won George Santos’ old seat), something Johnson apparently did to maintain enough Republican-majority votes to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. (Johnson says they’ll swear him in this coming Thursday, but nobody’s holding their breath.) Like Mitch McConnell withholding Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court for over a year, withholding certification of a handful of Democrats would be easy, legal, and completely immoral. There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants. That keeps Speaker “MAGA Moscow Mike” Johnson in charge of the House, so they can also refuse to accept the Electoral College certificates of election from a handful of states where they claim there are “problems.” Keep in mind, Johnson was the guy who organized the wave of 138 House members who voted not to certify Joe Biden’s election in January of 2020. That’s why Trump wanted him as speaker. Elise Stefanik, the number 3 person in House Republican leadership, has already refused to say whether she’d vote to certify the presidential election results this November. Others, like Kentucky Republican Congressman Thomas Massie, are repeatedly mentioning their belief that the House gets to decide who’s president, not the people or even the Electoral College. As Massie posted on X: “Maine, Colorado, and other states that might try to bureaucratically deny ballot access to any Republican nominee should remember the U.S. House of Representatives is the ultimate arbiter of whether to certify electors from those states.” In response, Elon Musk posted a one-word comment: “Interesting.” Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote. While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal. The Putin/Trump caucus in the House — led by Speaker Johnson — has largely given up on democracy when elections don’t give them power. As outrageous as this scenario sounds, they justify it to themselves as being essential to “save America” from “woke” Democrats. Johnson has repeatedly said he thinks God Himself put Johnson into the speakership to fulfill some great destiny, comparing himself with Moses: stealing a presidential race “for the greater good” almost certainly qualifies as that. And, although Congress in 2022 raised the number of congressional objectors necessary to stop the certification of a presidential vote, Johnson himself was able to round up more than that number in 2020. This is eminently do-able. Finally, the Supreme Court long ago ruled that they and the entire US court system have no jurisdiction over “political issues” that the Constitution says must be resolved by Congress. This issue of Congress’ certification of electoral college votes certainly qualifies, so, no matter what the courts might want to say or do, there’s probably no legal tool they can use to block a second Trump presidency under these circumstances. Rightwing billionaires and neofascists within the GOP are salivating at this prospect. Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller must be giddy. In one fell swoop they’ll “take back” the government, putting an end to that pesky problem of democracy and voters wanting nice things. President Trump issues a new Schedule F executive order and suddenly 20,000 or so of the top management of every federal agency find themselves out of a job, being replaced by conservative ideologues who are being vetted by Heritage and other conservative think tanks as you’re reading these words. Once they have control of both the political and the “deep state” or administrative government, these conservatives intend to set about making the changes they’ve been pushing for years: — End gay marriage and criminalize being trans. — Outlaw abortion and most forms of birth control. — End the teaching of Black history. — Outlaw DEI and affirmative action of any sort. — Shut down most functions of the EPA so the fossil fuel and chemical industries can do whatever they want to our air and water. — End enforcement of our anti-monopoly laws. — Fire thousands of IRS investigators to make America safe for morbidly rich tax cheats. — Shut down all “green” initiatives and instead “drill, baby drill.” — Sell off public lands and parks to the highest bidders. — Privatize Social Security and end traditional Medicare. — End federal funding for public schools and colleges. — Outlaw unions. It’s truly breathtaking. They’re committed to abandoning America’s historic embrace of democracy, the “radical new form of government” that our nation’s Founders brought back into the world after it had vanished for almost 3000 years. But, as Americans have figured out the GOP’s priorities and are disgusted by their obeisance to great wealth and Vladimir Putin, Republicans have decided that winning free and fair elections is for suckers. Stealing them is so much easier. I don’t see any legal way such a strategy can be stopped, because it’s all based on “legal” technicalities. Like the legal technicality that George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote but became president anyway (without significant protest from the American people). When I wrote that article laying out Trump’s plan to have phony electors, et al, back in 2020, people were upset I was “giving him ideas.” Some may similarly say about this article, “Don’t tell them how to do it!” But this has already been written about extensively by Newsweek’s editor-at-large Tom Rogers, Mark Medish & Joel McCleary for the Washington Spectator, and covered last Friday night an an opening monologue by Joy Reid. It’s public knowledge, although the media seems unwilling to discuss it. The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences. It’s a thin thread holding our republic together, but at least it’s something. Pass it along.

If you're like me, currently impaired by a short attention span, you want a quick fix - immediate gratification when catching up on the news. If anything is too long and drawn out I, and a lot of other people, are not motivated to read it. We want instant gratification. A headline is not a title. It's a concise summary of what the article is about. Editors often make them clever and provocative to catch the reader's eye. Nowadays I get most of my news from TV. I take it all with a grain of salt. Most people do. I don't know anybody who totally trusts the media anymore except maybe the Yahoos who watch Fox "News". Bottom line, folks eventually end up gravitating toward the outlets that tell them what they want to hear. Things that reinforce the opinionated conspiracy theories that everyone harbors in an ongoing pursuit of the "truth" which is simply a word and, unless it involves math, is more-or-less a concoction of cherry-picked factoids made up of other words that are just words. Yada, yada, yada. I will now step down from my soap box and move on... Good Night. zzzzzz

richardmurray Where in humanity do adults not get into altercations? And where else on the planet do women pull out knives and start attacking strange men when they are in a fight with someone else? And where else on the planet do men who get into fights casually walk over to their jackets to pull out gats? These things are pretty much an uniquely urban American phenomena...lol. But I find it strange for all of this to be happening when you supposedly have: 1. NYPD 2. NYPD Transit Police 3. National Guard 4. Guardian Angels??? ....."protecting" the subways. It makes me question the effectiveness of all 4 organizations or what they're really there for. If I go out in the street with a knife and start waving it wildly yelling babble , even though cameras are everywhere in nyc, and I am not harming anyone. People like pioneer in my local offline populace will say, "that boy crazy , where are the cops" and will call the cops , Absolutely. You know how you can predict that so easily? Because we still live in a pretty civil society and this is what MOST responsible adults would do. Now you can do that down in Haiti right now and NOBODY would call anyone on you....probably because there's nobody to call, lol. You can't even call GHOST BUSTERS down there at this moment...lol. Is THAT what you want for New York? People running around with metal poles and sticks in their hands setting piles of tires and trash on fire and running off grinning, for no reason? the media will say an endangerment to the community. Mayor adams will say, another example of mental health decay. A single black man angry , waving a knife , yelling is the great symbol of crime. ANY angry man with a knife screaming and yelling is enough to alarm and scare the average citizen. You don't know WHAT his mental state is or what he might do WITH that knife. What if he was angry at YOU or staring at your WIFE or KIDS while yelling and babbling with the knife in his hand? We can discuss how the police should respond to it but the police SHOULD be armed and able to quickly take that angry sucka down if they have to. And when i think about it, i remember how a black teenager was killed by law enforcement for doing just that. Two law enforcers , both carrying guns i might add, had no recourse but to shoot a teenage boy with a kitchen knife, said boy was not holding a hostage, wasn't attacking anyone directly, he was in his anger on the street, and yes, someone like pioneer had called the cops to the scene in the first place. Several points.......... 1. Can teenage boys KILL people with knives? 2. What the hell was that teenage boy DOING with the damn knife in the first place? 3. When the police arrived on the scene, did they tell him to drop the knife? 4. If the boy was Black, hasn't he been hearing since the time he was a little child that Black males have been targeted by some racist cops so he should be careful? You must ask all of these questions to figure out how that boy ended up getting shot. In Columbus Ohio several years ago there was a situation where police killed a Black teenage girl/woman who ran out of the house with a knife to attack another one. When they shot her people were jumping up and down over how terrible and unjustified it was and how they could have talked to her. Some people you CAN talk to...other's are moving so quick and so angry you have only time to make a move. That girl/woman ran out of the house to chop the shit out of that other girl she was fighting with. We should interview and ask THAT Black girl she was about to stab, should the police have used deadly force. The police probably saved HER life! If you want a society where the cops don't exist, go down to Haiti and spend a few weeks down there and when you come back let's see if your position is the same....lol. Let's build a society and try to govern it OURSELVES first before nominating ourselves "experts" on law enforcement procedures.

ProfD The generations who received their teachings and messages figured AfroAmericans were better off with integration and civil rights and affirmative action. Well, to be honest brutha I'm having THIRD thoughts about those programs now. I had SECOND thoughts about them years ago when I thought that they were really used to trick Black folks and make our people think they were really being accepted into society. Now, that's not my focus. Perhaps they were, but I look at how many OTHER groups of color have benefited from integration and the Civil Rights movement and Affirmative Action programs and am beginning to wonder if THEY are the problem or some of our people the real problem as to why they haven't benefited much. The fact is SOME of our people...many...actually have benefited from these programs. So I wouldn't reverse them or get rid of them. Integration (so-called) didn't FORCE Black folks to give up their land and businesses. Many of them CHOSE to....and support White businesses. I can't blame integration for that because nobody forced them to shut down their own hotels and grocery stores. White women benefited more from Affirmative Action than our people because they HELPED EACHOTHER when they got into positions from it. Did we do the same? So now I can't even get angry over Affirmative Action because it did what it was supposed to do....did we? Over the several decades, there's been no shortage of brilliant AfroAmericans who have matriculated through institutions of higher learning and they've pursued all types of careers. True. We have a lot of brilliant minds. Many of them are working for White folks because our people don't have enough institutions ourselves to provide them with decent well beneficial employment. IMO, AfroAmericans do not lack intelligence or work ethic. There's no vision plan or design for what we need. Theres no champion or leadership. Some do....some don't. Those are just the facts. Some of our people are just plain stupid...dumb. No way of getting around this. In my opinion, the best strategy is to make a way for them to sustain themselves or sustain them if they are to the point of intellectual disability. But the intelligent of our people MUST take charge of the community. AfroAmericans can cover every position on the team. We just need motivation and incentive. Most smart people tend to ALREADY be motivated and driven based on the needs they see around them. Why does a community with failing schools where the ceiling and walls are crumbling and their is no toilet paper in the stalls need MORE of an incentive to roll up their sleeves and build their own schools and educate their own children? You can't motivate a ZOMBIE. Don't even waste your time. At some point we MUST organize the few among us and move on. I bet we could get a whole bunch of those same lazy people to work on building that hospital or school just by dangling a lucrative hourly rate. You dangle money infront of the WRONG nicca and that hospital you want built will be needed sooner than you think....lol. That's why I keep telling richardmurray that the police are NEEDED in our community. Preferably a Black police force but if Black men don't want to stand up....WHO'S gonna do it???? Somebody has to keep order in the community and atleast PRETEND like they're protecting the children. It's a damn shame White men have to do it so often when we know they aren't sincere about keeping it safe. But to your point about paying them a good wage............ Some....yes. But most of them wouldn't work if you paid them $100 an hour. Put them on the site and some tools in their hand and promise them $100 an hour plus bonuses for completing the project early and...... Come back next week the tools are gone, blood is all over the construction site, and the police has the entire place taped off. We gotta leave dead weight behind bro......

Yes, I've engaged in MANY of them personally. The protocol is simple...... You and I get together and agree that if I do this for you....you'll do this for me. One of us will initiate. Say I do the thing for you. Now you'll either do for me....or you won't. If you fail to do it, I simply won't do business anymore. If you honor your agreement, we'll continue to do business.....lol. It's really not that complicated. As AfroAmericans we collectively in various groups in various locations make deals with other groups in those locations to support eachother and a circumstance by circumstance basis. If they fail to support us....we won't support them, simple as that. No need to sit up cussing and crying and sitting in the corner with your lips poked out mumbling something about why don't nobody want to support you or help you when you need it. If the people you made an agreement with FAIL to honor their end of the bargain....cut them off and move on to the next group. Soon....word will spread....trust me!

Troy of course, evil should be discouraged and when excessive punished. Why would you punish someone who did something they had no choice over? If their actions were "pre determined"...they couldn't help but to follow the script, right? As corporeal beings, bound by the constraints of the passage of time we exist in the world with the known and fixed past, ...for the MOST part, lol. But the soul can and does travel outside of this Realm. We are, necessarily, content with the illusion of free will— otherwise, what meaning with life have? If you didn't have a measure of "free will" you'd be stuck eating the same foods you were fed as a child and couldn't feed yourself. The fact that you started TRYING different foods as you got older is just a minor testimony to your free will. If there are multiple past and multiple futures, as some speculate, one can argue they’re all predetermined as well. Some are....some are not. Even IF these different futures are pre-determined, YOU aren't necessarily destined to experience a specific one. Imagine it's "movie night" and you have 5 different of your favorite movies to choose from. You already know the outcome of each movie because you've watched them all so much....but what you watch THAT NIGHT is you choice. It's not pre-determined. You may decide to watch one particular movie that day and by the time you make it home changed your mind to watch another. Either way...the movies are set but YOU don't necessarily know which one you'll experience. We are also unable to experience different realities within the Multiverse. You do so everytime you dream.

Troy Think that through for second… I have. I suggest you think OUTSIDE of the box and ponder on what I said about multiple Realities. The omniscient being you are referring to can move through time the way you or I walk up and down the street. The concept of the passage of time is nonsensical. Time is just a REFERENCE. It's abstract....used to mark what which is concrete. What is moved through isn't "time" itself, but the different Realities in which the concept of time exists. They could observe something that “happened” 2000 years ago or 2000 years in the “future” it’s all the same. I wouldn't say it's "all the same" but yes, they could move 2000 years back into A past or 2000 years into A future. I bet you have no problem accepting that you can’t change the past, the future is no different. You probably can't change YOUR past, but there are MULTIPLE pasts just like there are MULTIPLE futures. In another "past", Word War 3 has already occurred and this world has experienced nuclear destruction. You still didn't answer my questions about why "evil" should be punished if the deed was already pre-determined to occur; and according to that logic...does "evil" really exist?

Think that through for second… at any rate, what difference does it make? The notion of a choice or free will is an illusion, a function of our being constrained in time. The omniscient being you are referring to can move through time the way you or I walk up and down the street. The concept of the passage of time is nonsensical. They could observe something that “happened” 2000 years ago or 2000 years in the “future” it’s all the same. I bet you have no problem accepting that you can’t change the past, the future is no different.

frankster Well, if your dial is stuck on "Aryans are Black folks from Iran"....I'm not going to try to move it for you, lol. It's HISTORY. Unlike Chemistry or some other Sciences, one of the things about HISTORY is you usually don't know for sure who or what is the ABSOLUTE truth because you weren't around to witness it or verify it, let alone PROVE your argument to others.

Troy When my mother said when she moved into the housing project it was beautiful. There were flowers growing on the lawns, and the whole property was well-maintained back then I believe it was only opened to married people, and someone had to have a job. I believe these rules changed, and as a result, the class of people changed. I heard similar from my older relatives who came up from down South and moved up to Detroit. I didn't hear the part about having to be married, or having to have a job, but they told me single men could get a place in the projects back in the 50s and 60s. At some point, that changed to where only women with children could get a place. They also said that the projects were nice and considered a STEP UP from the rat infested tenements and slums that dominated so much of the city until much of it was torn down. NYCHA also failed to maintain the properties very well. I read recently that the projects were in such a state of this repair that the city could no longer afford to maintain them, and are now looking at options to allow private ownership. That too. What I found interesting when I went to Europe and when I used to go to Canada a lot was that those nations had public housing projects too but unlike in the United States, they MAINTAINED them and kept them repaired and clean for their residents. I went to Europe about 20 years ago. I've heard that today Western Europe has let IT'S public housing collapse too as well as Canada. No doubt the demographic shift from mostly White residents to mostly Black and Arab residents has contributed to them allowing their public housing to deteriorate the same as the U.S. has. They say in Eastern Europe where there is far less immigration from Africa the public housing is still in great shape and well maintained. Another major thing that happened was Section 8. The purpose of Government housing projects was to provide a place for poor people to live because private land owners were charging too much for rent and property. Section 8....where you take government money and put it in the hands of private land owners was the very OPPOSITE of why Public Housing was established in the first place. richardmurray I have no idea who are the decent blacks. Black people who are fair, peaceful, and don't engage in reckless criminal behavior. Black people who respect property, personal space, and other people...with good social manners. Not to say that a decent Black person wouldn't break the law for a GOOD reason, but they generally don't go around being criminals and thugs for the hell of it. .....in other word, the OPPOSITE of niggaz, lol. What is the largest percentage of black people that you think owned land in the south from the end of the war between the states to the 1960s? Not sure, but a pretty large percentage. My family owned a lot of land that they received after the Civil War and most other Black Americans I know have said the same thing so it must have been a pretty good chunk. I'm talking MILLIONS of acres. But a lot of our people sold the land because they didn't want to work it or be farmers. They'd rather move up to bigger cities and go work for other people in jobs they THOUGHT would be easier. I will speak for NYC, the nyc government controlled plus run by whites made sure all the black regions in nycare used for for projects which damage the black populac ein said regions. When the harlem empowerment zone led by bill clinton happened , many black owned businesses in harlem applied, but only one was granted. no black business was given up but per the law you say you respect so much or feel is so badly needed the black busniness were legally pushed out of existence and the black populaces Were there not Black politicians in New York positions to stop or reverse these policies? Did you know the black populace of chicago si deemed 230,000 while the black populace of nyc is two million. that is a significant difference. nyc's black populace could cut away a parallel count from the black populaces of boston/detroit/chicago230,000/atlanta 190,000/new orleans and quite a few other cities and still have half of its size. Yes, pioneer, you talked with your offline peers. Ok, very true, but you plus troy's lives or connections doesn't mean nyc's black populace is too small to include mine. Lol...not sure where you get your numbers from. Detroit has a little over 500,000 Black people living in the city itself and almost that many scattered across the vast metropolitan area. In all, the Detroit area has over 1 million Black people. Chicago itself has a little over 1 million Black people in the city and probably about a million in it's suburbs too...making the Chicago area about 2 million. It may not be as big as New Yorks, but percentage wise it takes up a much bigger chunk since New York has a much larger White and Asian population to offset the Black population.

@Pioneer1 I apologize for being unclear We differ again in that I want all people in the phenotypical race I define as black to be happy. I have no idea who are the decent blacks. What is the largest percentage of black people that you think owned land in the south from the end of the war between the states to the 1960s? I will speak for NYC, the nyc government controlled plus run by whites made sure all the black regions in nycare used for for projects which damage the black populac ein said regions. When the harlem empowerment zone led by bill clinton happened , many black owned businesses in harlem applied, but only one was granted. no black business was given up but per the law you say you respect so much or feel is so badly needed the black busniness were legally pushed out of existence and the black populaces, did what you always suggest and moved on with their our lives legally. You find it odd cause it is not common with your peers but i don't find you odd , not because of I think my scenario majority but because I comprehend the largess of the black populace in nyc. again, the black populace in nyc is large, any single black person side their offline communiques, starting to myself, does not define it. I know their are black people born and raised in nyc who hae lived in a segment of the black populace where the worst fate has occured, this is the truth. But it doesn't mean it is the common or majority in the black populace of nyc, and definitely not indicative of all. Did you know the black populace of chicago si deemed 230,000 while the black populace of nyc is two million. that is a significant difference. nyc's black populace could cut away a parallel count from the black populaces of boston/detroit/chicago230,000/atlanta 190,000/new orleans and quite a few other cities and still have half of its size. Yes, pioneer, you talked with your offline peers. Ok, very true, but you plus troy's lives or connections doesn't mean nyc's black populace is too small to include mine. @ProfD I thought about population sizes. The law enforcement agencies throughout the usa are the real drug pushers in all populaces but definitely the black and i think about a detroit a chicago a new orleans. Their populace is so small, that such an agenda will have a more potent negative influence. I think of new orleans. I have been fortunate to know people from there and they have spoken of deterioration, and that is a nice word. but whn the white government of nw orleans, of . .louisiana makes their plans. Remember they busted a huge ring of black law enforcers in new orleans pushing illegal drugs and my point isn't about the government of new orleans or its parts like the new orleans law enforcement or louisiana but how the black populace of new orleans has a larger percentage of the total population to the city it is based in than most black populaces, its true quanitty is so small that the damage of negative actions from white government historically or modernly saturate a larger portion of the black populace in said city. in parallal, even though nyc's black populace has never been the majority in nyc it is quite large and nyc's various plans against the black populace have never touched the whole black populace. Thank you, your whole comment [ https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10861-nycs-nypd-cost-the-city-and-state-alot-of-money-but-should-it-be-more/?do=findComment&comment=65944 ] made me see something. I advise all to read the whole comment but I want to focus on one point data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== and may i add, less importantly while first, it is a problem in the same way drinking liquor was for whites, that was why prohibition happened. Prohibiton stated in the roaring twneties you know. The same decade which is lauded in media as a high time of money is also the prohibiton era that supposedly is mired under the drunks, which was it? it can't be both. Some whites, like some blacks, look at their own populace and criminalize, cause you see poor, cause you see those on drugs and yes, drinking liquor is a drug act. so... And , it is an interesting comparison that like the white religious segment of the white populace's heavy support of prohibiton the black religious segment of the the black populaces fervent, fanatical support of the war on drugs the war on crime, which is still strong in said segment, neither action is honest to the majority condition of either populace. More importantly while second, the white populace never has a large percent of itself, ala prohibiton, that decries itself a failed populace in modernity for white people who do wrong to whites. In NYC ,in modernity, not 1960s, but, 2000s, the white asian mob, herded and herds its own people into various tenement buildings, like our forebears in the white boats, and caused untold sickness , maybe even death, but the white asian populace has never made a big deal of their underworlds quite negative acts towards its own. Again in modernity, i don't know how many mestizo , latin american, businesses act as drug fronts with multiple daycare centers being publicly uncovered now. Causing the harm or death of mestizo children. But does the mestizos say in spanish the world is falling, do they amrch when a mestizo child is murdered by their own. No, they move cause it isn't the majority situation. Most humans , don't want negativity, but judging your own populace based on extreme minority behavior is dysfunctional but only the black dos populace in the usa today has suc ha strong segment of itself doing this.