NY Rep Jamaal Bowman Take Down

[ProfD]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/27/aipac-jamaal-bowman-cori-bush-00165174

 

Coming against Israel does not bode well for American politicians. 

 

AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) put up the money to insure Rep. Jamaal Bowman (NY) lost in the primary election. 

 

The next chip to fall could be Rep. Cori Bush (Mo). She's in a close primary race too.

 

The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) takes money from non-Black special interest groups. As a result, they have marching orders that have little or nothing to do with helping their Black constituents.

 

Politics is a dirty business. Black politicians aren't remotely interested in playing the game to the advantage of lifting up Black people. They seem to be selling out solely to enrich themselves.

 

I don't feel badly for Black politicians losing their seats especially when they don't deserve to be in the chair.

[Troy]

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

Black politicians aren't remotely interested in playing the game to the advantage of lifting up Black people. 

 

As Obama demonstrated to do otherwise would make you unelectable.  

[KENNETH]

On 6/28/2024 at 8:07 AM, ProfD said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/27/aipac-jamaal-bowman-cori-bush-00165174

 

Coming against Israel does not bode well for American politicians. 

 

AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) put up the money to insure Rep. Jamaal Bowman (NY) lost in the primary election. 

 

The next chip to fall could be Rep. Cori Bush (Mo). She's in a close primary race too.

 

The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) takes money from non-Black special interest groups. As a result, they have marching orders that have little or nothing to do with helping their Black constituents.

 

Politics is a dirty business. Black politicians aren't remotely interested in playing the game to the advantage of lifting up Black people. They seem to be selling out solely to enrich themselves.

 

I don't feel badly for Black politicians losing their seats especially when they don't deserve to be in the chair.

 

Unlike in the 1970s a lot of CBC members represent majority white districts so they aren't rooted in or mainly focused on the black community or issues that effect us. 

 

The problem with AIPAC is that it's a big money special interest group that will go after any Democrat who doesn't uncritically support US policy on Israel. 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, KENNETH said:

...a lot of CBC members represent majority white districts...

 

AIPAC is that it's a big money special interest group....

Facts on both accounts.

 

Black folks need to come up with special interests to which politicians can be held accountable.

[aka Contrarian]

On 6/28/2024 at 7:07 AM, ProfD said:

Politics is a dirty business. Black politicians aren't remotely interested in playing the game to the advantage of lifting up Black people. They seem to be selling out solely to enrich themselves.

@ProfD: Not to worry.  Just invoke the one-size-fits-all rationale you trot out to excuse black shortcomings. You know, the one about how black corruption, consumerism, conspicuous materialism, etc. can all be attributed to the stress brought on by the oppression of white supremacy. Frankster can co-sign to your explanation to make it official, and it's back to business as usual.

[frankster]

 

 

The Primary reasons why Jamaal Bowman lost is two...in my opinion 

1. His Rigteous Indignation to speak Truth to Monied Power....

2. Gerrymandering/Redistricting......renders electoral politics void of True representation for Black and Brown Americans.

 

Electorial politics as it is practice in most of the world is flawed in that money plays a large role in who gets elected...in other words votes can be bought both directly and indirectly - it is the Capitalist way and as such to many it may not be a flaw.

 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD: Not to worry.  Just invoke the one-size-fits-all rationale you trot out to excuse black shortcomings.

For every "shortcomings" their is a reason or cause....Black people have many.

To which shortcomings of us black people do you specifically refer?

Where do you see the cause and reason for this....in otherswords where in lies our fault?

 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

You know, the one about how black corruption, consumerism, conspicuous materialism, etc. can all be attributed to the stress brought on by the oppression of white supremacy.

Yes I know them well.

Black Corruption is real

Black Consumerism and Black Conspicuous Materialism Are also both Real.

The Stress and Oppression of White Supremacy is Real....to me

 

Are you saying that Black Corruption and Black Consumerism should not be Attributed to the  Opression of White Supremacy experienced by Black Africans?

Or

Are you saying Neither White supremacy  and or The Oppression of Blacks exists?

 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Frankster can co-sign to your explanation to make it official, and it's back to business as usual.

Where ever Truth is being communicated I will co-sign and have.

My co-signing does not make it official...as I am Not an Authority or have any Authority on the issues we discuss here

Like You and @ProfD I am only sharing my opinions and enjoy hearing others...Especially Yours on this topic

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD: Not to worry.  Just invoke the one-size-fits-all rationale you trot out to excuse black shortcomings. 

The rationale I trot out is not intended to be a one size fits all.  It applies to whoever feels most comfortable wearing the shoes.

2 minutes ago, frankster said:

Like You and @ProfD I am only sharing my opinions and enjoy hearing others...Especially Yours on this topic

Right.  A discussion forum should be about a dialog and excchange of opinions, ideas and views.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfD & frankster: discussion forums should also include the option of agreeing to disagree .

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD & frankster: discussion forums should also include the option of agreeing to disagree .

Absolutely. Healthy debate is great. Keeps the mind sharp.

[frankster]

On 7/2/2024 at 6:24 PM, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD & frankster: discussion forums should also include the option of agreeing to disagree .

 

 

Yes of course it does....all options are open - At-Will and Your Leisure

Yes This is a discussion board....We have not had the discussion - lets discuss

What are we agreeing to disagree about?

We have as of yet only clarified the Issue....now we must delve into its constituents to see wherein lies both the agreeable and the disagreeable

In the Spirit of what  a Forum is ....be thee contrary aka Contrarian or the cynical Cynic come let us make fun while we learn from and of One the Other.

You have chosen your persona....The stage is set - We each our Role Must Play