richardmurray Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 @ProfD ahh right, thanks for reminding about Troy. I knew it was south. and your correct, but said wealthy blacks have no excuse to not collaborate if they want. @Chevdove yeah, the cold war really wasn't cold, it was the first war in humanity between nuclear powers, where the total arsenal of the main belligerents couldn't be used so those without the same level of arsenal could be used as proxies and the main belligerents keep each other safe. the korean war/the vietnam war/all the people killed by cia/kgb/fbi all the various independence/revolutionary movements and all the various armed groups involved in them, all stemmed from usa+ussr but in such an environment the usa+ussr could have war actions through policies, like when the soviet union brought many from africa or asia to learn engineering in the soviet union, or afterward when the usa had an immigration act of 1964 which opened the usa grandly for the first time ever. 1
Chevdove Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 11 hours ago, ProfD said: You're right. Powerless people resort to hope and prayer for a better situation. Yep. That's me. Furthermore, I think that, by nature, this kind of powerlessness causes many Black women to fall into this category as well. My power, of which I do have, comes from within and it gives me the strength to keep researching for truth and to keep believing and hoping in a better government that will form. I do not believe that this kind of government has formed yet, but I do make my appeals, in spirit, to a higher power because I believe that there should be a sort of, clean sweep, meaning a complete overhaul of how world governments exist today.
Chevdove Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 11 hours ago, ProfD said: What do you consider the most recent actions of harsh and brutal retaliation from the government leading to broken souls? Black people are not giving up due to religious beliefs. It allows them to live with the system of racism white supremacy. On a small scale, I consider all of these recent police killings of young Black men and women a government trap that leads to a lot of broken souls. On a larger scale, although the history of how some people in Haiti fought back successfully and achieved victory is awesome, however, the all powerful Western Powers have constantly worked against them and for this reason, a lot of hope is lost. The Western Powers are definitely a part of why certain actions of 'brutal retaliation' are occurring over there, but I think that some of us over here may not understand too, that the violent retaliations that do occur, at times, is done in Black face! Nevertheless, it is due to being supported, in secret, by Western Powers and this kind of retaliation keeps the Black factions fighting against each other. When Black people are given support to violently fight against Black victimization, well, that kind of evil can lead to someone giving up all hope. Don't you understand that is how America was able to form? America is a Laissez-faire government. It set up with Black support! Then afterwards, It sits back and watch Blacks fight against each other and only intervene if their interest is not being served. No matter, I still can tell though, that there are some positive movers and shakers still fighting for their human rights over there in Haiti and they are holding out for better days. So even though, there are a lot of broken souls due to White racism, however, there are still people like me that do not believe this will go on forever. Yes, I understand that a kind of, false religious beliefs has given many Black people a false sense of security and they have come to believe that they can live with the system of racism white supremacy. Many Black people have maybe, unknowingly come to believe that America provides the greatest existence on earth and this is so sad because in this kind of belief, many have become completely blind to what is going on in the prison systems, the schools systems, and etc. This kind of blind eye to the negative aspects of America has caused them to become a wall to many desperate souls. Many go to Church and pray to a White Jesus and thank the Great White Father for their wonderful benefits here in America and do not realize that the scriptures do not support their being lukewarm! 6 hours ago, richardmurray said: yeah, the cold war really wasn't cold, it was the first war in humanity between nuclear powers, where the total arsenal of the main belligerents couldn't be used so those without the same level of arsenal could be used as proxies and the main belligerents keep each other safe. the korean war/the vietnam war/all the people killed by cia/kgb/fbi all the various independence/revolutionary movements and all the various armed groups involved in them, all stemmed from usa+ussr but in such an environment the usa+ussr could have war actions through policies, like when the soviet union brought many from africa or asia to learn engineering in the soviet union, or afterward when the usa had an immigration act of 1964 which opened the usa grandly for the first time ever. That is interesting! Idk much about the affects Russia's policies had on their endeavors but I believe that America's immigration policies have done more harm than good.
ProfD Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Chevdove said: My power, of which I do have, comes from within and it gives me the strength to keep researching for truth and to keep believing and hoping in a better government that will form. I do not believe that this kind of government has formed yet, but I do make my appeals, in spirit, to a higher power because I believe that there should be a sort of, clean sweep, meaning a complete overhaul of how world governments exist today. That's totally understandable. You're hoping and praying for a better world. Not just making reservations for a place in the afterlife. 1 hour ago, Chevdove said: On a small scale, I consider all of these recent police killings of young Black men and women a government trap that leads to a lot of broken souls. When Black people are given support to violently fight against Black victimization, well, that kind of evil can lead to someone giving up all hope. Don't you understand that is how America was able to form? America is a Laissez-faire government. It set up with Black support! Then afterwards, It sits back and watch Blacks fight against each other and only intervene if their interest is not being served. So even though, there are a lot of broken souls due to White racism, however, there are still people like me that do not believe this will go on forever. Black folks can stop these killings and make changes in the system but in addition to hope and prayer, it requires work on our part. The work includes dealing with Black folks who are working against us as they are complicit in helping to maintain the system of racism white supremacy. We have to accept the fact that all skin-folk ain't kinfolk. 1
richardmurray Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 @Chevdove 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: Idk much about the affects Russia's policies had on their endeavors but I believe that America's immigration policies have done more harm than good. The USA has a culture of media comprehension. Those in power in the usa always know the influence of media. The USA will never admit defeat never admit being influenced, that will be an admission of failure or incompetence. The powerful in the usa are trained to rather say nothing or lie than speak any truth that leads to any negative conclusion to the usa. This is why 9/11 was never framed as an act of revenge, which it was. This is why just today, the justice department has officially changed the report on tulsa to a half truth, a spontaneous act by whites to the black community of tulsa . [ it wasn't spontaneous, it was organized and coordinated like the attack on all black affluent communities in the usa] while never saying it was wrong in the past. The USA never says it lost to vietnam in the vietnam war but says it evacuated, even with photos of helicopters leaving their vietnamese allies who are trying to hang on. The USA will rarely while never say officially Russia/The Soviet Union is better than it or influencing it in any way. Media control, like Slavery are two true pillars of the usa. Which is why so many in the usa lie or are slavers or are enslaved. 1
ProfD Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 2 hours ago, richardmurray said: This is why just today, the justice department has officially changed the report on tulsa to a half truth, a spontaneous act by whites to the black community of tulsa . [ it wasn't spontaneous, it was organized and coordinated like the attack on all black affluent communities in the usa] while never saying it was wrong in the past. Black folks have access to the information, science, technology and everything else required to tell the truth about Tulsa and Black Wall Street. Black folks celebrate Juneteenth but how much do we really know about the reason for it or most of our history for that matter. While I readily acknowledge the system of racism white supremacy, I will never absolve Black folks of doing their due diligence in 1) knowing history, 2) being informed and 3) putting in work to dismantle the system and build among ourselves. Black folks cannot sit around waiting for someone else to *right the wrongs* that have been and continue to be committed against us. Time for some action. 1
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