harry brown Posted December 22, 2024 Report Posted December 22, 2024 In. Black. Churches. And. In. The. Nativity. Christmas. Displays. In. Black. Communities. You. Will. See. White. Images. Of. A. White. ,,Baby. Jesus. With. Blue. Eyes. And. With. Blond Or. Light. Brown. ,Hair. Amazing. .This. Image. Is. A. Slave. Chain. .Preached. By. Money. Worshipping. Black. Preachers. And. The. Racist. Christian. ,,,White. Terrorist. ......I. Read. That. Years. And. Years. Before. The. ,,Europeans. Created. Their. White. Jesus. ,,.Other. Cultures. Other ,Countries. Had. Stories. About. A. Virgin. Mother. A. Savior. Baby. ,,Who. Did. Miracles. Had. Disciples. .There. Is. No. Proof. Those. Stories. Ate. True. About. A. Savior. Born. Baby. From. A. Virgin. ,,Performed. Miracles. ..All. This. Made. Up. Stories. ...Bible. And. Christianity. Was. Used. By. Slave. Owners. To. Justify. Slavery. ..Willie. Lynch. Letter. ..,..And. How. To. Make. A. Negro. Christian. ....Every. Religion. The. Racist. White. Man. Has. Black. People. Embrace. It. ..At. This. Time. Of. The. Year. Black. People. Love. Their. White. Christian. Jesus. ..White. Jesus. Was. Leading. The. ,,White Christian. Terrorist. Attack. January. 6. ,3. Years. Ago. Bible,,Christians. White Jesus. Is. White. Supremacy. White Terrorism ......
frankster Posted December 22, 2024 Report Posted December 22, 2024 The Child born of a Virgin is not a story invented by Europeans..... It is an Allegory used to teach a Universal Truth....so in that sense it is true on some levels. The Story has and is being abuse by unscrupulous Individuals both for profit and nefarious purposes.
ProfD Posted December 22, 2024 Report Posted December 22, 2024 Most *stories* and *tales* especially with religion are used for mind control and exploited for financial gain.
frankster Posted December 25, 2024 Report Posted December 25, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 2:31 PM, ProfD said: Most *stories* and *tales* especially with religion are used for mind control and exploited for financial gain. That is true today. The original intent was to allow for full development(of humanity) and free individuals from oppression and depression
ProfD Posted December 26, 2024 Report Posted December 26, 2024 9 hours ago, frankster said: That is true today. The original intent was to allow for full development(of humanity) and free individuals from oppression and depression *Today* has been here for a very long time now. Religion has been used to keep people oppressed and depressed in one way or another.
Troy Posted December 26, 2024 Report Posted December 26, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 12:06 PM, frankster said: The Child born of a Virgin is not a story invented by Europeans..... It is an Allegory used to teach a Universal Truth What is the universal truth taught by the virgin birth?
frankster Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 6 hours ago, Troy said: What is the universal truth taught by the virgin birth? The Virgin Birth Motif is found in many Ancient Cultures Mythology...it is a Human Archetype The one that is most important is the Esoteric meaning ASTROLOGICAL....the first science When the Sun moves from the House of Virgo in your Birth Chart Virgo is the Virgin and You are the Sun/son The Birth of the Solar plexus seed....2.5 - 29.5 days ESOTERIC.....the eternal science Virgin Birth is of the Spirit....A Spiritual Quickening - Rebirth. The Birth of Christ in You and Every One else....Is a Virgin Birth OCCULT....the science of Manipulation of life spirit and matter Parthenogenesis where in an embryo develops from unfertilized human egg of vestigial Virgins. Using Venus The Sun and The Moon to Birth a Spirit in Flesh - Reincarnation....Father and Son is the Same One All life is Female....within the female is the male. 20 hours ago, ProfD said: *Today* has been here for a very long time now. Religion has been used to keep people oppressed and depressed in one way or another. Religion has been use to abuse 1
Chevdove Posted December 28, 2024 Report Posted December 28, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 11:24 AM, harry brown said: Cultures. Other ,Countries. Had. Stories. About. A. Virgin. Mother. A. Savior. Baby. ,,Who. Did. Miracles. Had. Disciples. .There. Is. No. Proof. Those. Stories. Ate. True. About. A. Savior. Born. Baby. From. A. Virgin. ,,Performed. Miracles. ..All. This. Made. Up. Stories. ...Bible. And. Christianity. Was. Used. By. Slave. Owners. Historically, most Blacks can accept that the Roman Empire dominated this region of Jerusalem and the structures are still there today so that millions of people travel there and confirm that Herod the Great did live and rule at this time. Blacks can accept that the Romans did war against the Jews, around AD 70 and demolished the temple and temple worship just as the prophets wrote long before this occurred. However, many Blacks in America have a hard time believing that if Herod lived then so did the Original Jews of which he ruled over. As far as Jesus, the Messiah, that Daniel prophesied would come during the First Roman Empire and then the Second Roman Empire, well, does it really matter what we believe? Prophecy says that after Second Rome, Jesus would come and set up his government and judge the earth for a thousand years and during this time, there would be an Armeggidon. The prophet Ezekiel prophesied that a Third Temple would be constructed after a great catastrophe occurs and the government of God would be on the shoulders of Jesus. This has not happened yet. But for those who believe that there was a virgin birth, whereby a woman went through an asexual fertilization and gave birth to a malefactor, and he lived and will set up a new kingdom and religion, and if it does happen, it would be all good for those who want a better existence. I say, keep hope alive. When Jesus came, he had nothing to do with the Romans, Gentiles, because they were Separatist. So, for Blacks to reject a story of a king who came and had nothing to do with the Gentiles, and later, the very Gentiles made up an idol of Jesus in the image of a Gentile, is hilarious. The very Gentiles that had nothing to do with Jesus, later blames the Jews for his execution, but yet, it was their government that oversaw the execution. The very Gentiles soon becomes Christians and put Blacks in slavery and develops a false religion based on an idol of a Gentile Jesus, a White Jesus, then set sail for to set up a new Rome and then later Separates Church and State and once again, become Separatist again, but yet Blacks can't see the deception is insane. Even though Moses also prophesied about two Romes and the First and Second Coming of a great prophet and he based Second Rome on a slave ship trade that would one day include captives that were also Hebrews forced out of an Egyptian port and onto slave ships, but yet, many Black American DOS reject these prophecies, is amazing to me.
Chevdove Posted December 28, 2024 Report Posted December 28, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 11:24 AM, harry brown said: In. Black. Churches. And. In. The. Nativity. Christmas. Displays. In. Black. Communities. You. Will. See. White. Images. Of. A. White. ,,Baby. Jesus. With. Blue. Eyes. And. With. Blond Or. Light. Brown. ,Hair. Amazing. .This. Image. Is. A. Slave. Chain. .Preached. By. Money. Worshipping. Black. Preachers. And. The. Racist. Christian. ,,,White. Terrorist. ......I. Read. That. Years. And. Years. Before. The. ,,Europeans. Created. Their. White. Jesus. Ha! Keep going! Jesus said that when you see the Abomination that Makes Desolation set up in the holy place, then you will know that the Tribulation period is near. But Hey, the Europeans are not the only ones guilty of this White idol worship. God is not intimidated by White Supremacy at all because he did nothing about it for 400 years when the Israelites did the same thing. It seems to me that many Black people want to blame White Supremacy on all White people and hide their own desires that are the same. Colorism is the same as being a White Supremacist. So if people don't believe in the historical Jesus, I don't believe that he will be offended. If you don't believe then, you won't have to worry about being able to be part of a New Jerusalem if the Bible is right in a global world destruction and a new civilization forming. That prophecy has nothing to do with mankind and war initially. It's simple, if you believe and there will be such an occurrence then you get to live in this new world, but if you don't believe in this asexual birth of a man called Jesus, you simply won't get in. It's simple. If this world does experience something catastrophic, then well, ... maybe, but then maybe not. The Israelites worshiped Baal and Ashteroth in Israel off and on for the entire time that they had their government and then one day, they were completely overthrown. Then a couple of decades later, the Jews were also overthrown completely, by the Chaldeans because of their obsession with the Assyrians [i.e. White Syrians]. The Chaldeans spared some of the Hebrews like Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and Daniel, etc. because they were still Original Hebrews, but they went crazy on those watered down Hebrews and completely demolished their temple and cities. The Chaldeans were Bel Worshipers, not Baal worshipers. The Chaldeans had recently been enslaved by the Assyrians and they completely overthrew them and demolished their temples, palances, etc. with the help of the Medes. And so, the Chaldean leader of this force, Dark Cloud [i.e. Nebuchad-rezzar] eventually became tired of trying to make peace with the Jews and overthrew them violently. Then about 500 years later, Jesus was born and he had nothing to do with the Gentiles. He only picked fights with the Jews on their issues with Colorism, all over again. So the fact that Europeans stole Black children and reset up their new age Baal in the image of the Anti-Christ, White Jesus, has deceived many. Even though Jesus came and had nothing to do with the Gentiles, somehow, we have come to believe that the historical Jesus did not exist due to the idol of a White Jesus movement that began in Europe in the AD 1300s and was infiltrated throughout the world. For this reason, like many American Indians, many of us believe in either one 'Great White Father' in 'the White House' or another. Here's what Daniel had to say about the god Jupiter being replaced: [1] Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him. [2] And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia. ... [31] And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. ... [38] But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. [39] Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, ... DANIEL 11:1, 2, 31, 38, 39. So then the historical and Biblical Jesus who was scripted to be born on April 17 during the annual Feast of Tabernacles and Crucified on October 16 during the annual Feast of Passover leap year observance but has been replaced by a new age version of Jesus in idol form who was born on December 25th and was crucified at some point in April and reveals two separate ideologies. Because the Romans dominated over the Jews at that time and changed the Passover time from fall time [Summer's end] to be observed in April about 2000 years ago written in the BOOK of ACTS, therefore do we today respect that law as did the ancient Jews as well. So on those same lines, even though we as Christians respect the law of our government and should be grateful to have the opportunity to observe the birth of Jesus into this world observed during the Christmas season in December, the Church is lacking because they should still teach the truth but for the most part do not at all. The only place today that the truth about the historical Jesus being born on April 17, for the most part, will be in scientific planetariums across the world due to the Star of Bethlehem, a scientific phenomenon that marked the historical birth date and aligns it precisely with other historical records. As in all times, the month of April was the Feast of Tabernacles on the leap year. The Feast of Tabernacles also called the Feast of Booths is why Jesus was born in a booth and laid in a manger because it was an annual spring festival instituted by Moses at the time of the Exodus. But, when the 'Daily Sacrifice was taken away' meaning the destruction of the Jewish temple occurred and the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem, and the abomination that maketh desolate was set up, meaning the temple of Jupiter erected at that time, occurred, then came the later prophecy of the set up of Second Rome. A long time before that, this and scripture applied to the worship of Ashtoreth. She was an idol, a supreme idol, that aligns with Baal worship, that was defined as 'an abomination that makes the lands and many peoples infiltrated and deceived and then violently attacked, driven out and the land made desolate of its original peoples. Ashtoreth is the Canaanite or Phoenician supreme goddess that at time and would be revealed to be the head of the Baal priesthood and Jezebel was aligned with this worship in Israel. It's a hidden form of matriarchal worship. Ashteroth is the Queen Bee. And so in the Book of Matthew Chapter 24, Jesus spoke about another time when the abomination that makes desolate would be set up in the holy place and this aligns with Daniel's prophecy of the worship of a god that their fathers never knew... Jupiter would soon be replaced after the fall of the First Roman empire by a strange god the Romans never knew. And the rise of Second Rome would be based on this new supreme Baal type idol that became a movement in the age of Exploration and the Renaissance Period that began, once again in Italy. This new image of White Jesus was taken from Italy and became a movement throughout Europe and then Africa and beyond and erected all throughout the world. Comparable to Baal and Ashteroth Worship; the Catholic inclusion of the worship of Mary: A simple Italian Virgin and Child by Carlo Crivelli, c. 1470
Pioneer1 Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 12:06 PM, frankster said: The Child born of a Virgin is not a story invented by Europeans..... It is an Allegory used to teach a Universal Truth....so in that sense it is true on some levels. The Story has and is being abuse by unscrupulous Individuals both for profit and nefarious purposes. I understand what allegories are, however..........either it's TRUE or it's NOT, brother. We are living in an Age where we need TRUTH. ANSWERS. SOLUTIONS to the problems humanity faces. ....not more stories, symbols, allegories, and mythology.
frankster Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 58 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: I understand what allegories are, however..........either it's TRUE or it's NOT, brother. The Message is true... As to the Story...it is a mystery wrap in a mystery Who knows is it possible for a women to have a child with out sex....sure that can happen as we know today. Was such technology available to the virgin or in that time....who knows? Can a woman give birth without semen? Parthenogenesis? Self-Fertilizing Hermaphrodites? All human life is female then male? 58 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: We are living in an Age where we need TRUTH. As in every other Age 58 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: ANSWERS. Ask the right question. 58 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: SOLUTIONS to the problems humanity faces. What does a Virgin giving Birth have to do with you? 58 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: ....not more stories, symbols, allegories, and mythology. Maybe there in lies the Answers
Pioneer1 Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 Frankster The Message is true... What is "the message"? As to the Story...it is a mystery wrap in a mystery So why share it with the public if the public will not understand? All human life is female then male? Based on MY limited understanding, it starts off as NEITHER until it develops into one..the other...or on occasion both. Ask the right question. And ask the right PEOPLE. Don't ask important questions of people who will only confuse you with MORE mysteries and fables that are irrelevant to the problems you face in this world. What does a Virgin giving Birth have to do with you? Very little, which is why I no longer believe in it. Maybe there in lies the Answers Perhaps this should simply read: Maybe there in lies the Answers....lol
frankster Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Frankster The Message is true... What is "the message"? Spiritual Awakening 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: As to the Story...it is a mystery wrap in a mystery So why share it with the public if the public will not understand? The lips of Wisdom are closed except to the ears of Understand.....He who has ears to hear let him hear. In short it is a method of preservation of the knowledge. 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: All human life is female then male? Based on MY limited understanding, it starts off as NEITHER until it develops into one..the other...or on occasion both. Are You Sure???? 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Ask the right question. And ask the right PEOPLE. Don't ask important questions of people who will only confuse you with MORE mysteries and fables that are irrelevant to the problems you face in this world. Your Cup runneth over...your mind is already full - In Other words.... you think you know all the answers. When you are ready the teacher will appear 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: What does a Virgin giving Birth have to do with you? Very little, which is why I no longer believe in it. Its your Life.....Astra logically. 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Maybe there in lies the Answers Perhaps this should simply read: Maybe there in lies the Answers....lol
Pioneer1 Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 frankster Spiritual Awakening What does that mean? My understanding of Spirits is....They don't need sleep and likely don't sleep. So why would they need "awakening"? The lips of Wisdom are closed except to the ears of Understand.....He who has ears to hear let him hear. In short it is a method of preservation of the knowledge. In MY opinion.... Important knowledge should be provided for those who NEED it. Not just a select few who can "decipher" the hidden codes. In other words.... If a man has a disease and needs the knowledge to heal himself, that knowledge should be given to him in a clear and concise way that he understands it and can apply it to help himself. Don't cloak it and shrouded it up in a bunch of mysteries and parables that ONLY priests and religious scholars who speak 3 different languages can understand. They don't even NEED the information anyway...HE does. Give it to the man who needs it in a way that he can apply it to heal himself! Are You Sure???? No Your Cup runneth over...your mind is already full - No human's mind is "full" because it's constantly expanding. In Other words.... you think you know all the answers. Lol.... Where and when did you get THAT impression? When you are ready the teacher will appear Neely Fuller Jr. said a man is ready for the answer when he asks the question.
frankster Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Spiritual Awakening What does that mean? Laying dormant within is the Christ 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: My understanding of Spirits is....They don't need sleep and likely don't sleep. So why would they need "awakening"? You are Unaware/Unconscious....in that sense you need Awakening - woke 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The lips of Wisdom are closed except to the ears of Understand.....He who has ears to hear let him hear. In short it is a method of preservation of the knowledge. In MY opinion.... Important knowledge should be provided for those who NEED it. Not just a select few who can "decipher" the hidden codes. It is there for all... The Knowledge is no longer Hidden....@Troy just posted links to most of what's in the public Domain - check them out? The Practice and The Discipline is Difficult Here is at primer The Virgin Birth 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: In other words.... If a man has a disease and needs the knowledge to heal himself, that knowledge should be given to him in a clear and concise way that he understands it and can apply it to help himself. True 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Don't cloak it and shrouded it up in a bunch of mysteries and parables that ONLY priests and religious scholars who speak 3 different languages can understand. I give it the way I got it 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They don't even NEED the information anyway...HE does. Give it to the man who needs it in a way that he can apply it to heal himself! I do not have it that way. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Are You Sure???? No This "No" means a willingness to Know 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Your Cup runneth over...your mind is already full - No human's mind is "full" because it's constantly expanding. True... What is meant is that on this subject your mind is made up and nothing will change it 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: In Other words.... you think you know all the answers. Lol.... Where and when did you get THAT impression? Past Conversation. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: When you are ready the teacher will appear Neely Fuller Jr. said a man is ready for the answer when he asks the question. True.... Did you ask the Question? Has it been Answered? 1
Pioneer1 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 frankster Laying dormant within is the Christ According to the Bible, Christ is on the righ-hand of the Father. Not "laying dormant" inside somebody. So from a scriptural stand point...this is simply not true. You are Unaware/Unconscious....in that sense you need Awakening - woke If I weren't aware/conscious...I wouldn't be on here correcting you right now, lol. It is there for all... The Knowledge is no longer Hidden....@Troy just posted links to most of what's in the public Domain - check them out? The Practice and The Discipline is Difficult I'm not sure what you mean by "the knowledge" but the knowledge I'm referring to are the ANSWERS to our problems! ...not more allegories or scriptures leading to more confusion and religious dogma. If a man has a disease, he needs THE KNOWLEDGE to cure it. If a woman is in poverty, she needs THE KNOWLEDGE to get herself out of it. Do the links you're referencing provide THAT type of knowledge? I give it the way I got it Well if it's not helping to solve any problems, you may as well give it.....AWAY. I do not have it that way. One could legitimately ask the question, do you have it AT ALL. And if you do...what PROBLEMS are you SOLVING with it? What is meant is that on this subject your mind is made up and nothing will change it Don't confuse: -NOTHING being able to change my mind with - nothing YOU'VE presented to me so far has changed my mind. There's a difference...lol. I once had a friend years ago who didn't speak to me for a week over something I said to him. He told me one day that his girlfriend wasn't able to have orgasms. I said to him, "Are you sure she can't have orgasms....or is it that YOU can't give her any???" Nigga looked at me, went back to his job...and didn't say shit to me for a whole week, lol.
Troy Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: "Are you sure she can't have orgasms....or is it that YOU can't give her any???" That is an interesting question. I can see why your "friend" would be upset: he shared something intimate with you and you dissed him in a very profound way At 60+ I believe a woman has a role in her orgasm during sex. I don't think it is the man's job to "give" her an orgasm all by himself. I think it something that is done together...
Pioneer1 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 Troy Well we were in our 20s....and he should have KNOWN better than to come at me with some shit like that, lol. What was he expecting me to say in response? Let ME try??? 2
ProfD Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I said to him, "Are you sure she can't have orgasms....or is it that YOU can't give her any???" Perfectly asked question. Rip the band-aid off. 51 minutes ago, Troy said: At 60+ I believe a woman has a role in her orgasm during sex. I don't think it is the man's job to "give" her an orgasm all by himself. I think it something that is done together... Interesting. Younger men think the opposite. They will try to knock the bottom out of a snatch box in order to satisfy a woman. However, as men get older and especially if they start having *issues* with the shotgun, cuddling and foreplay and *help* from the woman is more appreciated. 49 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: What was he expecting me to say in response? Let ME try??? Right. That is hilarious.
frankster Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Laying dormant within is the Christ According to the Bible, Christ is on the righ-hand of the Father. Not "laying dormant" inside somebody. So from a scriptural stand point...this is simply not true. Depends on where God is? 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: You are Unaware/Unconscious....in that sense you need Awakening - woke If I weren't aware/conscious...I wouldn't be on here correcting you right now, lol. If you are Aware why ask.....I say again your cup runneth over.... 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: t is there for all... The Knowledge is no longer Hidden....@Troy just posted links to most of what's in the public Domain - check them out? The Practice and The Discipline is Difficult I'm not sure what you mean by "the knowledge" but the knowledge I'm referring to are the ANSWERS to our problems! ...not more allegories or scriptures leading to more confusion and religious dogma. If you are confused it is of your own making. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: If a man has a disease, he needs THE KNOWLEDGE to cure it. If a woman is in poverty, she needs THE KNOWLEDGE to get herself out of it. Do the links you're referencing provide THAT type of knowledge? I Am told it does 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I give it the way I got it Well if it's not helping to solve any problems, you may as well give it.....AWAY. I have 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I do not have it that way. One could legitimately ask the question, do you have it AT ALL. And if you do...what PROBLEMS are you SOLVING with it? It is not Awaken in me... 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: What is meant is that on this subject your mind is made up and nothing will change it Don't confuse: -NOTHING being able to change my mind with - nothing YOU'VE presented to me so far has changed my mind. There's a difference...lol. Then I Am not the Messenger for You.....I have played my role and pointed the Way 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I once had a friend years ago who didn't speak to me for a week over something I said to him. He told me one day that his girlfriend wasn't able to have orgasms. I said to him, "Are you sure she can't have orgasms....or is it that YOU can't give her any???" Nigga looked at me, went back to his job...and didn't say shit to me for a whole week, lol. That's what happens when you go to the wrong person for advice....you end up feeling abused
Troy Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, frankster said: That's what happens when you go to the wrong person for advice....you end up feeling abused
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 frankster Depends on where God is? Is that a question? If you are Aware why ask.....I say again your cup runneth over.... I asked to get your answer/response, as to why would Spirits need "awakening". If you are confused it is of your own making. I'm not confused. However I would have liked CLARIFICATION on what you meant by "the knowledge". When I say "the knowledge" I know EXACTLY what I'm referring to. When you say it...I'm not so sure. I Am told it does And apparently you believe what you are TOLD. But do you KNOW for sure that it does? Perhaps you should verify the information you are told before passing it along....less it be erroneous information. It is not Awaken in me... Well shit, man..........((raises and drops arms)) If it's not Awakened or activated in you yet, what are we even TALKING about? How do you know what you have is real or even works???? Then I Am not the Messenger for You.....I have played my role and pointed the Way How can you point the way when you haven't even FOUND the way yet? You just said it's not Awakened in you. You got something sleeping inside of you that hasn't even woke up yet, but you want to sit here and "point the way" for somebody else to follow down the same mysterious path???? That's what happens when you go to the wrong person for advice....you end up feeling abused He didn't come to me for advice. We were just talking casually and me mentioned it.
frankster Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Depends on where God is? Is that a question? For me it is not a question. For you it is? 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If you are Aware why ask.....I say again your cup runneth over.... I asked to get your answer/response, as to why would Spirits need "awakening". Often Spirits are Asleep in the sense that they are Unaware Cut off or Not Remembering - The physical body has that effect. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If you are confused it is of your own making. I'm not confused. However I would have liked CLARIFICATION on what you meant by "the knowledge". When I say "the knowledge" I know EXACTLY what I'm referring to. When you say it...I'm not so sure. I was referring to Knowledge of and about the meaning of the Virgin Birth My guess is you were seeking knowledge about curing a disease as well as the virgin birth Is that clear enough for you? 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I Am told it does And apparently you believe what you are TOLD. But do you KNOW for sure that it does? Yes 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Perhaps you should verify the information you are told before passing it along....less it be erroneous information. I have 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: It is not Awaken in me... Well shit, man..........((raises and drops arms)) If it's not Awakened or activated in you yet, what are we even TALKING about? Because I know where to look and how to look 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: How do you know what you have is real or even works???? Done my own rudimentary tests so as to verify. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Then I Am not the Messenger for You.....I have played my role and pointed the Way How can you point the way when you haven't even FOUND the way yet? cause I have done the research and prototype test 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You just said it's not Awakened in you. It is not 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You got something sleeping inside of you that hasn't even woke up yet, but you want to sit here and "point the way" for somebody else to follow down the same mysterious path???? Yep...because I know more than they do. You have Masters Coaches Trainers and Researches 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: That's what happens when you go to the wrong person for advice....you end up feeling abused He didn't come to me for advice. We were just talking casually and me mentioned it. Ohh...so you are incapable of recognizing when someone is seeking advice/guidance. He came to you for support and help instead you insulted his ego and manhood....that is abuse
Pioneer1 Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 frankster For me it is not a question. It MUST be a question, you put a question mark at the end of it...lol. For you it is? No. I believe The SUPREME BEING Is. I don't speculate as to Location. Often Spirits are Asleep in the sense that they are Unaware Cut off or Not Remembering - The physical body has that effect. Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I can actually agree. I was referring to Knowledge of and about the meaning of the Virgin Birth My guess is you were seeking knowledge about curing a disease as well as the virgin birth Guess again, because you're HALF WAY right...lol. I'm seeking knowledge about a LOT of things, and among them is the curing of diseases. What I'm NOT seeking knowledge of is "the virgin birth". I'm not interested in it's details in the least. I don't see how knowing about it helps our people. Is that clear enough for you? Yes. Thank you. You've made more sense in THIS one post than you've had in the last 5 combined! You must have took a "One A Day For Men" vitamin before you logged on, lol. Yes Ok. I'm curious as to HOW you "know" this for sure, since you say you were basically TOLD this. Because I know where to look and how to look Seems to me you should be looking WITH IN, if it's not Awakened in you yet. Look inside and find out why it's not activated yet. Yep...because I know more than they do. You have Masters Coaches Trainers and Researches Coaches and Trainers have EXPERIENCE. You admitted that it hasn't occurred within you yet, so you don't even have EXPERIENCE...let alone enough experience to be a Master Coach or Trainer. Ohh...so you are incapable of recognizing when someone is seeking advice/guidance. If you understood the full context of the conversation you'd recognize that he was NOT coming to me seeking advice. Actually if I remember correctly, he...like you...liked to argue and debate me over different things and we were talking about women and sex and orgasm. If I remember correctly, that's how the issue came up. A person seeking advice or guidance from you doesn't challenge your statements and argue to the contrary with you...lol. He came to you for support and help instead you insulted his ego and manhood....that is abuse No...I taught him a very valuable lesson in manhood. Don't go around telling all of your personal business. Part of manhood is knowing WHAT to say, WHEN to say it, and WHO to say it to. He acted unwisely and ended up enduring the consequences for his unwise decision to divulge private and embarrassing details of his sex life. I bet he didn't make that same mistake again. You talk about abuse.... He better be glad I wasn't the type of brutha to FIND OUT who his girlfriend was, push up on her, and see if I could give her what he apparently couldn't. He better be glad.
frankster Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster For me it is not a question. It MUST be a question, you put a question mark at the end of it...lol. It was a rhetorical question for you....where do you think God is? God is Everywhere - Nature 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: For you it is? No. I believe The SUPREME BEING Is. I don't speculate as to Location. you said:- "According to the Bible, Christ is on the righ-hand of the Father." ....so you do speculate as to his/Christ location 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Often Spirits are Asleep in the sense that they are Unaware Cut off or Not Remembering - The physical body has that effect. Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I can actually agree. Welcome 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I was referring to Knowledge of and about the meaning of the Virgin Birth My guess is you were seeking knowledge about curing a disease as well as the virgin birth Guess again, because you're HALF WAY right...lol. I guess it's better to be half right than half wrong.... 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'm seeking knowledge about a LOT of things, and among them is the curing of diseases. ok that is my half right 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: What I'm NOT seeking knowledge of is "the virgin birth". Maybe you have forgotten or lost your way due to confusion... When I said paraphrasing The allegory of the Virgin Birth has a true and valuable message '"Spiritual Awakening" You @Pioneer1 said:- "What does that mean? " So here we are...deep in its meanings 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'm not interested in it's details in the least. okay...suit yourself 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I don't see how knowing about it helps our people. Unless you know what it is about....how can you tell if it can help "our" peoples? 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Is that clear enough for you? Yes. Thank you. You are Welcome 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You've made more sense in THIS one post than you've had in the last 5 combined! You must have took a "One A Day For Men" vitamin before you logged on, lol. No.....It was Kush 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yes Ok. I'm curious as to HOW you "know" this for sure, since you say you were basically TOLD this. I have had my own Experiences. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Because I know where to look and how to look Seems to me you should be looking WITH IN, if it's not Awakened in you yet. Look inside and find out why it's not activated yet. Exactly. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yep...because I know more than they do. You have Masters Coaches Trainers and Researches Coaches and Trainers have EXPERIENCE. Not all....What they have is Know How 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You admitted that it hasn't occurred within you yet, so you don't even have EXPERIENCE...let alone enough experience to be a Master Coach or Trainer. I am not a Master or A Coach.... A Master has Experience and Knows How To A Coached has knowledge of How To A Trainer Knows How to Prepare You To Do A Researcher Knows the Steps to Take and Where to Go/Look 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Ohh...so you are incapable of recognizing when someone is seeking advice/guidance. If you understood the full context of the conversation you'd recognize that he was NOT coming to me seeking advice. Actually if I remember correctly, he...like you...liked to argue and debate me over different things and we were talking about women and sex and orgasm. If I remember correctly, that's how the issue came up. A person seeking advice or guidance from you doesn't challenge your statements and argue to the contrary with you...lol. That's exactly what they do and should do...you must prove them wrong with superior knowledge and understanding - after all you are not a professional at this. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: He came to you for support and help instead you insulted his ego and manhood....that is abuse No...I taught him a very valuable lesson in manhood. Don't go around telling all of your personal business. The first lesson he learned is not to trust you with such information....and people like you. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Part of manhood is knowing WHAT to say, WHEN to say it, and WHO to say it to. Once the "Who" is wrong the "When" and the "What" will be...You are not the "Who" You were the wrong person at the right moment to teach him not to trust you and others like yourself. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: He acted unwisely and ended up enduring the consequences for his unwise decision to divulge private and embarrassing details of his sex life. Yes he did....in thinking you were somebody worthy of his trust 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I bet he didn't make that same mistake again. Hopefully not with you 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You talk about abuse.... Yes and their are many types 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: He better be glad I wasn't the type of brutha to FIND OUT who his girlfriend was, push up on her, and see if I could give her what he apparently couldn't. He better be glad. On that we may agree must men would rather you not use their failures as a way to win favors/bed with their women
Pioneer1 Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 frankster It was a rhetorical question for you....where do you think God is? God is Everywhere - Nature I know GOD is. Again, I'm not going to sit up here and speculate as to where. ...so you do speculate as to his/Christ location When I say "according to the Bible", that's NOT a speculation. That's an actual FACT because the Bible indeed does say this. Unless you know what it is about....how can you tell if it can help "our" peoples? By OBSERVATION. I don't know exactly what antibiotics is about, but I know it helps people and kills harmful germs that make them sick. I haven't OBSERVED how believing in the Virgin Birth or it's "deeper meanings" has helped our people. A lot of our people certainly believe in it, but I'm not sure how it has helped. It was Kush Well blaze up....lol. That's exactly what they do and should do. So a person seeking advice and guidance (which he wasn't) should ARGUE and CONTEST the person they're seeking guidance from? If you've ever been in a lecture hall, when was the last time you saw the students stand up and challenge and argue with the professor while they were giving a lecture? ..you must prove them wrong with superior knowledge and understanding - after all you are not a professional at this. For the umpteenth time...he wasn't asking for advice. He was making a statement, that may or may not have even been true. Which is why I asked him what I did. The first lesson he learned is not to trust you with such information....and people like you. It's not a matter of "trust" it's a matter of common sense. You don't go around telling people what the bathroom smells like after your mother left it, and "trust" that they will keep the information to themselves and give you sound conversation about the matter. Some things you should just keep to yourself. You were the wrong person at the right moment to teach him not to trust you and others like yourself. Then allow me to pat myself on the back for giving the young man a lesson well learned. Yes he did....in thinking you were somebody worthy of his trust And I was. Not sure how divulging THAT unwarranted and unsolicited piece of private and sensitive information affected or eroded that trust. It's not like I went around telling other people what he told me. I asked him a question based on his statement. Hopefully not with you If he TRULY learned his lesson, he didn't make that same mistake again with ANYBODY else...except for maybe discussing it with a gynecologist or sexual therapist. On that we may agree must men would rather you not use their failures as a way to win favors/bed with their women You may as well say you'd rather men not use money to entice women for sex. When it comes to the urge to reproduce and have sex, some men will do or say whatever it takes.
frankster Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster It was a rhetorical question for you....where do you think God is? God is Everywhere - Nature I know GOD is. Again, I'm not going to sit up here and speculate as to where. Cool 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: ...so you do speculate as to his/Christ location When I say "according to the Bible", that's NOT a speculation. That's an actual FACT because the Bible indeed does say this. So Christ/Jesus is beside God.....Where then is God? 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Unless you know what it is about....how can you tell if it can help "our" peoples? By OBSERVATION. I don't know exactly what antibiotics is about, but I know it helps people and kills harmful germs that make them sick. So you know what Antibiotics is about? That's all the vast majority of antibiotics users and abusers know. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I haven't OBSERVED how believing in the Virgin Birth or it's "deeper meanings" has helped our people. Really....well check out what MLKjr accomplished for starters 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: A lot of our people certainly believe in it, but I'm not sure how it has helped. Talk to them...ask them 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: It was Kush Well blaze up....lol. Fyah....flames smoke flavor taste aroma ash...mellow 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: That's exactly what they do and should do. So a person seeking advice and guidance (which he wasn't) should ARGUE and CONTEST the person they're seeking guidance from? Maybe reason is a more fitting word....but then again that is how some of come to an understanding - a contest of will and belligerence. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If you've ever been in a lecture hall, when was the last time you saw the students stand up and challenge and argue with the professor while they were giving a lecture? Were you a professor having studied years with degrees and/or practiced experienced on the topic giving a lecture in a lecture hall??? Or where just shuckin and jivin hiding out trying to look busy sharing lies and gossip while trying to one upping each other with witticisms? 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: ..you must prove them wrong with superior knowledge and understanding - after all you are not a professional at this. For the umpteenth time...he wasn't asking for advice. He was making a statement, that may or may not have even been true. Which is why I asked him what I did. okay cool he was not asking for advice... Can you see that what you said/ask was insulting? 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The first lesson he learned is not to trust you with such information....and people like you. It's not a matter of "trust" it's a matter of common sense. You don't go around telling people what the bathroom smells like after your mother left it, and "trust" that they will keep the information to themselves and give you sound conversation about the matter. Some things you should just keep to yourself. Did you see or hear him telling others the story? Cause maybe just maybe you were not "just people" to him.... 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You were the wrong person at the right moment to teach him not to trust you and others like yourself. Then allow me to pat myself on the back for giving the young man a lesson well learned. You deserve it...go ahead pat yourself. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yes he did....in thinking you were somebody worthy of his trust And I was. Not sure how divulging THAT unwarranted and unsolicited piece of private and sensitive information affected or eroded that trust. It's not like I went around telling other people what he told me. I asked him a question based on his statement. True....Sometimes its how we use words - it can be true or viable but cutting 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Hopefully not with you If he TRULY learned his lesson, he didn't make that same mistake again with ANYBODY else...except for maybe discussing it with a gynecologist or sexual therapist. True.....which probable what you should have told him in the first place 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: On that we may agree must men would rather you not use their failures as a way to win favors/bed with their women You may as well say you'd rather men not use money to entice women for sex. When it comes to the urge to reproduce and have sex, some men will do or say whatever it takes. True...with that i won't argue
Pioneer1 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 frankster So Christ/Jesus is beside God.....Where then is God? Let me make this crystal clear: 1. I don't know where Christ is, or if he even exists. 2. I don't know where Jesus is, or if he even exists. 3. But DO know where the Bible CLAIMS Jesus Christ is. Where then is God? Again, for the third time...I won't speculate So you know what Antibiotics is about? I know what they ARE; not too sure what they're about. That's all the vast majority of antibiotics users and abusers know. Perhaps that's all they NEED to know if they have an ailment that needs curing. Really....well check out what MLKjr accomplished for starters So knowing about the "virgin birth" helped Dr. King pull of the Montgomery Bus Boycott? Did Dr. King claim that the mysteries behind the "virgin birth" were responsible for him helping to get the Civil Right bill o 1965, passed? Help me out on how "the virgin birth" lead to Kings great accomplishments! Talk to them...ask them I'm asking YOU right now, and you can't give me a straight answer...lol. Why should I try the same thing with hundreds or thousands of others? Or where just shuckin and jivin hiding out trying to look busy sharing lies and gossip while trying to one upping each other with witticisms? With the exception of the "lying" part....that sounds about right, lol. okay cool he was not asking for advice... Can you see that what you said/ask was insulting? Yes. Can you see that it was sarcastic and MEANT to be slightly insulting? With what I now know about psychology, it was likely my subconscious way of letting him know that a man shouldn't divulge such personal information...by teaching him in a rather harsh way. Kind of like how little kids often tease eachother about problems that they'll one day have to learn how to deal with as they get older. You deserve it...go ahead pat yourself. Maybe I won't stop with just a pat...lol. True.....which probable what you should have told him in the first place That's not something that most Black men in their early 20s suggest to eachother.
frankster Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: frankster So Christ/Jesus is beside God.....Where then is God? Let me make this crystal clear: 1. I don't know where Christ is, or if he even exists. 2. I don't know where Jesus is, or if he even exists. 3. But DO know where the Bible CLAIMS Jesus Christ is. Where...in the clouds? On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Where then is God? Again, for the third time...I won't speculate cool On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: So you know what Antibiotics is about? I know what they ARE; not too sure what they're about. cool On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: That's all the vast majority of antibiotics users and abusers know. Perhaps that's all they NEED to know if they have an ailment that needs curing. Sure On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Really....well check out what MLKjr accomplished for starters So knowing about the "virgin birth" helped Dr. King pull of the Montgomery Bus Boycott? Did Dr. King claim that the mysteries behind the "virgin birth" were responsible for him helping to get the Civil Right bill o 1965, passed? Help me out on how "the virgin birth" lead to Kings great accomplishments! Gave him faith. On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Talk to them...ask them I'm asking YOU right now, and you can't give me a straight answer...lol. The Lacked Faith On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Why should I try the same thing with hundreds or thousands of others? Suit yourself On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Or where just shuckin and jivin hiding out trying to look busy sharing lies and gossip while trying to one upping each other with witticisms? With the exception of the "lying" part....that sounds about right, lol. I know only too well....that exaggerated lies are the only thing that makes those tongue waging session worth having. On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: okay cool he was not asking for advice... Can you see that what you said/ask was insulting? Yes. Can you see that it was sarcastic and MEANT to be slightly insulting? With what I now know about psychology, it was likely my subconscious way of letting him know that a man shouldn't divulge such personal information...by teaching him in a rather harsh way. We went a long way round the bush to end where we started.... With sarcasm and slightly insulting statements you are teaching someone who is not asking for advice... So you not only insulting him you are also belittling him.....talk about feeling abused On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Kind of like how little kids often tease eachother about problems that they'll one day have to learn how to deal with as they get older. Exactly....kids exaggerating On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: You deserve it...go ahead pat yourself. Maybe I won't stop with just a pat...lol. no comment On 1/7/2025 at 8:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: True.....which probable what you should have told him in the first place That's not something that most Black men in their early 20s suggest to eachother. Yep....got to keep that "Cool Pose" - now called Black Bro Code of Masculinity
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