Him?????

[Pioneer1]

You're telling me THIS:

...is the man Serena Williams CHOSE to lay up and open her legs to and have babies with????


Psychological Warfare is REAL, people.

[ProfD]

Yep. That's her dude.

 

If it is any consolation to the brothas, Serena's husband was already rich before she married him. Made his bread in the tech industry.

 

Serena is not being fleeced out of her fortune.

 

My question is when is he going to hit the gym with her.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

18 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

If it is any consolation to the brothas, Serena's husband was already rich before she married him. Made his bread in the tech industry.

 

Consolation???
That's even WORSE.....lol.
Because that means she DIDN'T marry him for the money but for who he really IS.

Let me make it clear....
I personally don't find Serena attractive.
I was more of a Venus supporter.
Not only was she less cocky and confident....which I personally find attractive on a woman.
But she was far less muscular and masculine than Serena.

 

....and STILL playing!
....and STILL looks great!

She was out there playing last week and I thought it was an OLD video of her from the 90s.
Somebody said NO that's her now playing!
Haven't aged a BIT out there on that court!


However the fact that Serena had all the money she needed and could have picked any man means the man she DID pick is one who really loved.
So now you scratch you head and wonder what is it about THAT man that a sista raised in Compton (but born in Michigan) loves so much or sees something special in???
 

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

However the fact that Serena had all the money she needed and could have picked any man means the man she DID pick is one who really loved.
So now you scratch you head and wonder what is it about THAT man that a sista raised in Compton (but born in Michigan) loves so much or sees something special in???

Of course that's a question only Serena can answer. Considering her dating history, this dude must have been *safe* on several levels.

[Delano]

Only a fool looks for logic in chambers in the human heart 

[Pioneer1]

Only a fool assumes that all marriages are based on love and the human heart.

[aka Contrarian]

Apparently, after a series of failed relationships, Serena Willians has finally found happiness.

What does it say about a person who begrudges her this, and tries to steal her joy?

 

Venus Williams just recently got engaged to the  successful millionaire she is pictured with below. 

 

 

 

 

[umbrarchist]

It does look like she can kick his ass if he gives her a hard time.

[Pioneer1]

Cynique

 

Apparently, after a series of failed relationships, 

 

First of all....
For the sake of discussion I won't entertain the idea that SHE was the real problem in these "failed" former relationships.

 

However when a woman claims that she had a bunch of "failed relationships" in the past, I often wonder what she means by "failed"?

Nobody is perfect and everyone has issues, so there's only so many ways a relationship between a man and woman can actually "fail" to the point that it's no longer worth having.

 

-Were the men in those past relationships no longer able to achieve erections for sex?
-Were the men she was with abusive?
-Did the men she was with give her some sort of disease?
-Was she trying to have children with these men and they were unable to give her some?

 

Serious questions

 

What exactly "failed" in these former relationships?

 

And what did the White boy do that was "right" to where the relationship no longer "failed" but "succeeded"?

 

 

Serena Willians has finally found happiness.

 

Dude looks like a stick of margarine that was left out in the sun.

 

 

If THAT'S her idea of happiness, she could have found it years ago in the dairy section of her local grocery store.

 

 

 

 Shhhh...............

As quiet as it's kept......
The REAL reason some Black women do better when they get into relationships with White men....isn't because White men act better....it's because THEY straighten up and act better.
If they had watched their tone, acted more feminine and submissive, and showed more encouragement to the BLACK MEN in their lives like they often do their current White partner.....the Black partners would not only have treated them the same but in most cases would have treated them BETTER.
 

[ProfD]

On 9/29/2025 at 7:13 PM, Pioneer1 said:

If they had watched their tone, acted more feminine and submissive, and showed more encouragement...

A rich, successful woman doesn't *need* a man to take care of her. As a result, she doesn't have to cater to him on any level (mental, physical, emotional).

 

Successful and/or rich women have a harder time finding a man who 1) doesn't feel threatened by her status and 2) isn't trying to control her.

 

Those women have different needs beyond the physical. They can find healthy men by the dozen. That's easy.

 

Finding a man worth spending their time and life with who adds to their happiness can be a challenge for rich, successful women. 

 

No matter how much money a woman has, there are men who will never see or treat her as an equal or better. That will present problems.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

No matter how "successful" a woman is......if she's not successful AS a woman....she's not likely to be happy.

Success = Happiness    sho'nuff

But Wealth doesn't always bring happiness because Wealth doesn't always = Success.


Some things are just biological.
Humans are programmed by nature to desire and feel comfort in certain things, and society can't change this.

Just like most women aren't happy unless they have children or have a man as a protector

Having her own money won't change or override this biological desire.
If she isn't finding it in her own community, she will seek it elsewhere.....but she WILL seek it.
 

[ProfD]

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

No matter how "successful" a woman is......if she's not successful AS a woman....she's not likely to be happy.

That's a belief men consistently get wrong when it comes to women. They don't need a man in order to be successful or happy.

 

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Success = Happiness    sho'nuff

Not really.

 

Notice that I wrote add to happiness.

 

I always do that because humans don't need money or power in order to be happy.

 

Happiness come from within the individual and emanates outward.

 

The only thing another person can do is add or subtract from it.

 

Another person should never be the source of one's happiness. Something is wrong there. It's out of order like a vending machine. 

 

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But Wealth doesn't always bring happiness because Wealth doesn't always = Success.

Correct. Wealth and/or success do not automatically equate to happiness. 

 

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some things are just biological.
Humans are programmed by nature to desire and feel comfort in certain things, and society can't change this.

Just like most women aren't happy unless they have children or have a man as a protector

The alphabet soup community might feel differently.

 

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Having her own money won't change or override this biological desire.
If she isn't finding it in her own community, she will seek it elsewhere.....but she WILL seek it.

Her biological desire doesn't necessarily have to be a man.

 

I know quite a few women who are perfectly fine and content without a man. Don't wanna be bothered at all.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

That's a belief men consistently get wrong when it comes to women. They don't need a man in order to be successful or happy.

 

They don't need a man to live their lives.
But in order to be happy, if she's heterosexual....she does.
Unless she's post-menopausal.
Then the men are ON PAUSE...lol.

 

Notice that I wrote add to happiness.
I always do that because humans don't need money or power in order to be happy.
Happiness come from within the individual and emanates outward.

 

And notice how I said Success = Happiness
But Wealth doesn't always = Success.

 

Success is simply getting what you want and desire in life.
Whether that's money, good health, loving relationship, or all of these things.
If you have what you want and desire....you WILL be happy.

If you aren't Successful in your life, you WON'T be happy.

 

 

 

The alphabet soup community might feel differently.

 

They might still agree because I said MOST, lol.

They are still a minority in this society.
MOST women are still heterosexual and cis-gendered.
They want that ROD...lol.

 

 

I know quite a few women who are perfectly fine and content without a man. Don't wanna be bothered at all

 

1. How old are these women?
2. How do we KNOW they are fine and content and not just putting up a front but have to go to therapists every week to for counseling and or have drug and alcohol problems to deal with the loneliness?

Like the old saying goes, 
Believe HALF of what you see and NONE of what you hear.

[ProfD]

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

They don't need a man to live their lives.
But in order to be happy, if she's heterosexual....she does.

Women can consume themselves with all types of sh8t and d8mn near forget men exist.

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Success is simply getting what you want and desire in life.
Whether that's money, good health, loving relationship, or all of these things.
If you have what you want and desire....you WILL be happy.

If you aren't Successful in your life, you WON'T be happy.

True.

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

MOST women are still heterosexual and cis-gendered.

They want that ROD...lol.

I'm sure many of them do but there is no shortage of exceptions for one reason or several.

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

1. How old are these women?

Age range varies. Most of their issues with men stem from how they were treated. 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. How do we KNOW they are fine and content and not just putting up a front but have to go to therapists every week to for counseling and or have drug and alcohol problems to deal with the loneliness?

Of course, we have no way of really knowing what they think and/or how they're coping with their issue(s).

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like the old saying goes, 
Believe HALF of what you see and NONE of what you hear.

I live by those words for the most part. I have to make some room for VGQ though.

[Delano]

Kick or lick

[aka Contrarian]

Now we know what kind of person "begrudges Serena her happiness".

The usual opinionated blather and imagined scenarios, and  obsessive, insecure attacks on white males and condescending assumptions  about women.  

Put a sock in it! 

               

@Serena: kudos to you for getting your life in order.  

You go, Girl!

 

Serena and her handsome 6'5" millionaire husband.  

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Women can consume themselves with all types of sh8t and d8mn near forget men exist.

 

Old women...yes.
Many old men can also forget about the opposite sex too if their testosterone levels drop too low and they have other issues they're dealing with.

 

 

 

Age range varies. Most of their issues with men stem from how they were treated.

 

How they were treated AND what they were taught to expect from men.
What I mean by that is....

Much of what women in this society believe is "right" and "wrong" for men to do and what they expect from men isn't innate or instinctual.
It's TAUGHT to them since childhood.

They are CONDITIONED by society in general (schools, television, movies, other women, religion, etc...) about what to believe about men what what their roles are, instead of allowing nature to take it's course.

If they did.....sex and strength would be the major factors.
Even more so than money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cynique

 

Put a sock in it! 

 

It's YOUR "thang-thang"; why don't YOU put a sock in it......
Cuz I ain't TOUCHING it....lol.

 

 

Serena and her handsome 6'5" millionaire husband.  

 

Handsome?

See that's the issue right there.

Too many of yall see any White man who isn't deformed.....as "handsome".

Some of you think any random run-of-the-mill White man is good looking and all he has to do is just BE NICE to you and smile and you're in love.

That man looks like a packet of mayonnaise with hair sprouting on top, but for some of yall...his Caucasian features ALONE makes him a "prize" worth appreciating.

Who cares about his physique or how big his dick is or how good he is in bed.
Just be a typical White man with some money and be nice enough to not call you a nigger (atleast when he's not angry)......and...hey.

 

 

BTW....
When was the last time you heard White women talk about how handsome Denzel Washington or Idris Elba was?
You know they do, but many of them TRAIN themselves to restrain from admitting to it publically.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1SMH.Pathetic.The only thing more obvious than your frustration is your jealousy and envy. You are totally threatened by white males and are in denial about how overrated black masculinity is. You cling to the black stud myth idea like a security blanket.

Unlike ProfD,  you can't just confidently take the Serena situation and all of its implications in your stride. No, instead you have to go overboard in your resentment and hysterical put-downs  about a situation that should be of no concern to you. Why does how Serena Williams' conducts her personal affairs, drive you up the wall? It's none of your damned business. Getta life!

And you gotta be kiddin about  Denzel who's well past his prime,  ready to be put out to pasture, all tired and worried lookin. And Idris who is getting by on his celebrity cuz there's a hell of a lot more better pickins out there than him!

.     

 

         

 

You need to update. It's 2025. 

 

Secure people don't have to bad mouth the competition. They  give credit where credit is due and keep on truckin.

 

If black women want to do what black men have been doing for years when it comes to white mates, then black men have only themselves to blame.

 

[Pioneer1]

 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

 

If black women want to do what black men have been doing for years when it comes to white mates, then black men have only themselves to blame.

 

Maybe I'm mistaken but.....

I thought White men were raping Black women and forcing them into other compromising positions for YEARS....CENTURIES....before Black men and White women started VOLUNTARILY having sex with eachother.

How can the two even be compared?

200 years ago the ONLY time he could get a Black woman is by force because they simply didn't find him attractive enough.
But today.....oh today...some of them are running around calling him an "angel" and talking about how "cute" he is....lol.

Like I said, psychological warfare is real.

[aka Contrarian]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Maybe I'm mistaken but.....
 

Yes, you are mistaken, - as you so often are; mistaken and  devious. So, take your cherry-picked, strawman argument and stuff it along with your pre-conceived notions. (Who said "kept"  black women didn't like their white "sugar daddies"? Or "house" slaves  didn't like being their massas' favorite bedmate? You thought wrong.  Get real. )

 

 Fast forward to 2025 where, in the present, diversity exists and individuals are free to choose a mate for whatever reason suits their situation, and this includes being in love, something you try to denigrate because it doesn't align with your malicious, lewd narrative. You have a one-track mind and assume everyone is as preoccupied with sex as you are.

Nor do  you seem to have the least idea  what aphrodisiacs power and intellect can be.

 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like I said, psychological warfare is real.

Yes, particularly as it applies to you black men, many of whom still equate having a white wife as the icing on the cake when it comes to "having it made" in America.  "Real", indeed. This idea is deeply entrenched in the black male psyche, and is his Archilles heel.

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

(Who said "kept"  black women didn't like their white "sugar daddies"? Or "house" slaves  didn't like being their massas' favorite bedmate?...)

True. 

 

Exhibit A would most famously be Sally Hemings who bore 6 children to Founding Father and POTUS Thomas Jefferson. 

 

Thomas Jefferson made Sally Hemings his concubine when she was about 16 years old.  Hemings never married. 

 

Sally Hemings lived at Monticello until after Jefferson's death in 1826.  Then, she lived with her sons until she died in 1835.

 

This was back in the late 18th and early 19th century.  No shortage of Sally Hemings over the past 235 years and counting. 

 

Surely, that resulted in millions of mulattos and quadroons and mixed-race folks running around in America.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Exhibit A would most famously be Sally Hemings who bore 6 children to Founding Father and POTUS Thomas Jefferson. 

 

Did she have a choice?

If not, how is this even debatable?

 

 

Thomas Jefferson made Sally Hemings his concubine when she was 16 years old. 

 

That doesn't sound like a choice to me.
Sounds kind of statutory.

 

 

Let's look at it:

 

Before there was a choice and White men were strictly in charge and ruled by force, the vast majority of interracial relationships were White men with Black women.
 

After the 50s when society become more open and women were given a CHOICE of who they wanted, the vast majority of interracial relationships between Blacks and Whites were between Black men and White women.
 

What does that tell you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cynique

 

 

You need to update. It's 2025. 

 

Like WHO???

You've already told us about the WHITE men you thought were handsome like Robert Redford and this Ohanian fellow Serena is shackled to.

What BLACK celebrities do you think are handsome?
Or do you think ANY of them are?

 

And don't bring up some mixed up ass mulatto with green eyes and nearly straight hair calling HIM "Black".
I mean a straight up BLACK man.

 

 

 

Who said "kept"  black women didn't like their white "sugar daddies"? Or "house" slaves  didn't like being their massas' favorite bedmate?

 

Is it their "sugar daddies" that they liked; or was it the fact that they were able to escape the sometimes hellish living and working conditions so many of the other slaves had face from day to day?

"Kept" is a fitting term for their position under these men; as in KEPT HOSTAGE under the threat of abuse and death.
Most of these GIRLS (you want to call women) were taken at an early age and forced into their roles as sex object by these devils.

But if you want to make it sound all rosy and bright, like they were sitting around clothed tables with white lace gloves on sipping tea all day laughing and talking while being pampered by "massa"....go right ahead.

[ProfD]

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Did she have a choice?

If not, how is this even debatable?

Sure, she had choices. She could've stayed in France or ran away or killed herself. Just to name a few things.

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Thomas Jefferson made Sally Hemings his concubine when she was 16 years old. 

 

That doesn't sound like a choice to me.
Sounds kind of statutory.

At some point, it has to be consensual especially when babies kept popping out.

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

After the 50s when society become more open and women were given a CHOICE of who they wanted, the vast majority of interracial relationships between Blacks and Whites were between Black men and White women.
 

What does that tell you?

I doubt those interracial relationships were down south up to the Mason-Dixon line. The white racists didn't play those games.

 

Former boxing champ Jack Johnson had his way with white women. It led to riots and fines and prison time for him.

 

In 1959, married couple Richard and Mildred Loving were convicted of breaking the law in Virginia. In1967, the Supreme Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriages were unconstitutional.

 

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Is it their "sugar daddies" that they liked; or was it the fact that they were able to escape the sometimes hellish living and working conditions so many of the other slaves had face from day to day?

According to history, Thomas Jefferson seemed to treat Sally Hemings very well. Her bedroom was in Monticello. Not slave quarters.

 

Sally Hemings could pass for a white woman. The only reason Jefferson probably didn't marry Hemings is because he promised his 1st wife Martha as she was dying that he would never remarry.

 

Although classified as slaves, Hemings and their children lived a relatively good life at Monticello. The offspring were taught trades and they were freed upon turning 21 years old.

 

The Jefferson-Hemings children did well as adults. They Blended into white society. The sons married white and Black wives. They produced mixed race grand children.  

 

Just laying out an example of despite how it started, Black women could have been fine with interracial relationships hundreds of years ago.

[aka Contrarian]

 

18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...is it their "sugar daddies" that they liked; or was it the fact that they were able to escape the sometimes hellish living and working conditions so many of the other slaves had face from day to day?

"Kept" is a fitting term for their position under these men; as in KEPT HOSTAGE under the threat of abuse and death.
Most of these GIRLS (you want to call women) were taken at an early age and forced into their roles as sex object by these devils.

But if you want to make it sound all rosy and bright, like they were sitting around clothed tables with white lace gloves on sipping tea all day laughing and talking while being pampered by "massa"....go right ahead.

I will "go right ahead", using MY scenarios, not YOURS. Blah, Blah, BooHoo. Wipe your tears and stop blubbering because The  "Kept"  black woman and her white "Sugar Daddy" were not a dynamic of slavery times, Dummy!

These mutually consenting liaisons, usually between a well-off older white man and "fancy" black female, ( the original side piece)  came about in the years after slavery.  Get your shit straight. Broaden your knowledge of black culture which you think you're such an expert on.

 

The point is, we cannot assume, as you do, that all black women always hated all white men. It just depended on the circumstances then - as it does now, something your obstinate psyche is unable to process because you are in the throes  of cognitive dissonance.

 

Inasmuch as nobody appointed you arbitrator of how black people are supposed to look, unlike you, I will let people decide for themsleves who they find appealing and direct the women to check out "Beyond the Gates", the black soap opera on CBS, that daily serves up a smorgesborg of fine black men! 

I think movie star Michael B. Jordan is who a lot of young black women currently go for. Sterling K. Brown, Morris Chesnut, Tyrese, and LaKeith Stanfield are also "hot".

  You're welcome, Ladies.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Sure, she had choices. She could've stayed in France or ran away or killed herself. Just to name a few things.
 

That's like telling a prison inmate that they shouldn't complain about doing their time behind bars because they have a choice to kill themselves or seriously injure themselves to the point of remaining hospitalized.
Those aren't practical "choices".

 

 

At some point, it has to be consensual especially when babies kept popping out.

 

"At some point" isn't good enough.
Stockholm Syndrome is real, and people can often fall in love with their abusers if given enough time and isolation.
Not always....but it happens.
He shouldn't have fucked with a 14 year old girl in the first place, plain and simple.

He never should have gotten the opportunity for her to "fall" for him, if she ever did.

 

 

 

I doubt those interracial relationships were down south up to the Mason-Dixon line. The white racists didn't play those games.
Former boxing champ Jack Johnson had his way with white women. It led to riots and fines and prison time for him.
In 1959, married couple Richard and Mildred Loving were convicted of breaking the law in Virginia. In1967, the Supreme Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriages were unconstitutional.
 

Those were interesting lessons in history, however the question remains:
If the majority of interracial relationships when White men were in total control were White men with Black women....but once Black people had more liberation and White women were able to choose who they wanted as well....then all of a sudden Black men with White women became the predominate interracial relationships; what does that tell you?

 

I'm not sure what it tells YOU, but it tells ME that when women of BOTH races were given the freedom to choose the type of men THEY really want to be with....both races tend to choose Black men over White men.

Which tells me that by nature, WE are more attractive.
They need to make "circumstances" in order to force women to choose them.

 

 

According to history, Thomas Jefferson seemed to treat Sally Hemings very well.

Not trying to hear read it.....
She was a teenage girl.


ProfD and Cynique

Since yall seem to want to focus on how "well" Thomas Jefferson treated his 14 year old concubine instead of the fact that she was only 14, I got a question for both of you:
 

If a 30 year old man were to pick up a 14 year old girl off the streets and use her for sexual purposes...do you think the judge or jury would care if he kept her in a nice clean well furnished room with plenty of entertainment and bought her the finest clothes?
Do you think any of that would matter to them?

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's like telling a prison inmate that they shouldn't complain about doing their time behind bars because they have a choice to kill themselves or seriously injure themselves to the point of remaining hospitalized.

Those aren't practical "choices".

It is still a choice. No different from a mass shooter or murderer killing themselves instead of going to prison or someone strapping on a bomb and blowing up a spot. 

 

An untold number of people killed themselves instead of enduring slavery of any kind.

 

To this date, suicide is still a choice people make rather than cope with abuse or mental health or physical issues.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

He shouldn't have fucked with a 14 year old girl in the first place, plain and simple.

Agreed. Unfortunately, the laws were different back in those days. 

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If the majority of interracial relationships when White men were in total control were White men with Black women....but once Black people had more liberation and White women were able to choose who they wanted as well....then all of a sudden Black men with White women became the predominate interracial relationships; what does that tell you?

It would be interesting to see those statistics. I really  don't know how interracial relationships breakdown.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

According to history, Thomas Jefferson seemed to treat Sally Hemings very well.

Not trying to hear read it.....
She was a teenage girl.

Again, statutory laws as we know them hadn't been codified. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If a 30 year old man were to pick up a 14 year old girl off the streets and use her for sexual purposes...do you think the judge or jury would care if he kept her in a nice clean well furnished room with plenty of entertainment and bought her the finest clothes?
Do you think any of that would matter to them?

From Greek philosophers up to modern religious leaders and everything in between, I don't think it is ever cool for a grown azz man to lay up with any child.
 

Thankfully, statutory rape has been against the law for a very long time now. Castrate and lock up the perpetrators.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1I never specifically  included Sally Hemings in my rebuttals because I knew there was controversy and mixed reports about her relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I simply found what ProfD had to say about them interesting. 

What I do know is that in the slave  pecking order which spawned the colorism which endures to this day, were the  "field niggas", the "yard niggas". and the "house niggas", and the "house niggas" were favored by their Massas and took pride in this status. 

As far as I'm concerned, the only people who know the true nature of Sally and Thomas' relationship, are Sally and Thomas. I will not be drawn into your imagined scenario.

 

Keep in mind that I am 92 years old,  and I know whereof I speak when it comes to "Kept" women and "Sugar Daddies,"  a term, which is black in origin. My knowledge comes by way of neighborhood gossip and parental anecdotes and even a childhood friend who was raised by an aunt who was the mistress of a well-off white man.

Here again it is my intent to refute your claim that white men and black women didn't have an affinity for each other, as opposed to the black men you absolved for choosing white women on the grounds that they voluntariy coupled for romantic reasons. 

All of which proves that love and attraction transcend superficial differences because we are all members of the same human race.

And I continue to wish Serena and her husband well in spite of your childish attempts to dehumanize him as a stick of melting margarine who doesn't have a large penis.

 

[ProfD]

In no way was it my intention to romanticize the relationship between Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings.

 

Again, just providing an example of a Black woman having a long-term relationship with a white man hundreds of years ago.

[Mel Hopkins]

On 9/27/2025 at 12:28 PM, Pioneer1 said:

...is the man Serena Williams CHOSE to lay up and open her legs to and have babies with??

She did after he stood up and promised her a future and family. Don't you remember Serena dated Common and Drake? Those two are still single! It appears Serena wanted a family! Can't she have a beautiful family with a loving husband who shares her values? 

[Pioneer1]

2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

 Can't she have a beautiful family with a loving husband who shares her values? 

 NO!

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

Serena dated Common and Drake?

Right. She was already trending towards a white guy.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

There you go stealing the thunder again, because I was going to say the SAME THING about Drake....LOL.

Also, both of these men are...through out much of Black America...thought of as "weak" or not very masculine or dominant.

Both Common and Drake are on the "Will Smith" level of hardness when it comes to Hiphop....lol.





 

Mel

 

Quote

 

Don't you remember Serena dated Common and Drake? 

 

 

 

No, I don't.
But I didn't really keep up with those celebrity relationships like that...lol.

However if this is true it would back up an observation I've been seeing for years.
-The same Black women who insist that the Black men she dates be "thuggish" or hard, will turn right around and be open to dating a White man who meets NONE of those standards and is as soft as a pussy cat both mentally and physically.

A lot of Black women who wouldn't say "good morning" to a nerdy or geeky Black man would GLADLY give a nerdy White man or soft or weak or wimpy White man a chance, and take time to get to know him.
Often times they IGNORE his short-comings or even see them as cute.

Now seriously.....
I have no problem with her wanting to get married and have a beautiful family; but the fact that her and so many Black women seem to "only" want this or find this with a White man makes me suspicious.

For one, that doesn't mean that it's TRUE.
It merely means that they're SAYING it.

In other word, there are PLENTY of handsome intelligent Black men Serena or any other Black woman COULD find to marry and have a beautiful family with but the question is is that what they REALLY want?
Or do some of them REALLY want a White man to lay up with and use this as an EXCUSE to justify their infatuation with and love for White men???

Like I said earlier....
Some Black women get along better in relationships with White men because THEY CHANGE THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR when they are with White men.
They aren't as combative or confrontational, which in turn causes the man they're with to be less aggressive and treat them more delicately.

 

This is why I keep saying Psychological Warfare is REAL.