Different strokes for different folks

[aka Contrarian]

??? Why can't anybody get the gist of my post which was in response to the consensus among you that social media is a religion and people who follow it are gullible, because its content is, for the most part, just junk! Yet, YOU YOURSELVES,  have no problem with being entertained by pioneer's "junky" blaxplotation movie which is equivalent to what you criticize on social media, sooo - said movie belongs on a social medium forum like TIK TOK rather than a discussion forum site!!  

As usual The Strawman went all off on a tangent blabbing about something that had very little to do with the inconsistency I was pointing out.

And nobody has yet to specifically address my observation. 

Delano came closest. 

[Delano]

17 hours ago, Troy said:

@Delano it is harder to make smart, older people laugh. 

Ironically I can make people laugh.

[admin]

@aka Contrarian I completely missed your desire to have someone comment on your observations, at least it wasn’t clear to me until your last post.

The difference between this forum and social media platforms like TikTok are profound. Sure in some cases, the content might be just as trivial, silly, incorrect, deep sublime, witty as anything that you’ll find on social media one main difference you consistently ignore, however, is that a tremendous amount of time, energy and money goes into deliberately hacking into the brain of the users of the systems and they have been very effective.

 

There are no Scientist here trying to keep you engaged on this platform 24/7  We don’t even have ads here anymore. You ignore all the evidence which speaks to the adverse impact of this on our society. But it’s fine not everyone is going to get it or if they get it accept it.

 

It is much like pioneer refusal to accept, there’s no scientific basis for race or getting Harry realize not all ministers are money grubbing womanizers.

 

[Pioneer1]

38 minutes ago, admin said:

@aka Contrarian I completely missed your desire to have someone comment on your observations,

 

 

That's ok

She's used to it....lol.

[aka Contrarian]

@TroyThanks for the feedback. 

 I really just wanted an opportunity to give a slap on the wrist to anybody who chided people for wasting time on social media while at the same time they were wasting their time, watching that blaxploitation crap pioneer churns out, degrading black women.

(The same hypocrite, wallowing in righteous indignation, peeing on himself,  over his deluded belief that the evil  GQ Magazine is  conspiring to masculinize black women.) Watta sleeze bag.

 

Viewer alert: Stupid pictures and goofy comments from the class clown on the way.

[Pioneer1]

15 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

@TroyThanks for the feedback. 

 I really just wanted

Save it.

We all know what you really wanted to do.....lol.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1I don't really care if you continue to smear the board with your feces. 

Have at it. You're the only one  who can't distinguish fiction from fact.

Let's hear it for the Mayor of Pioneerville! The biggest fool in town!

 

[ProfD]

19 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

??? Why can't anybody get the gist of my post which was in response to the consensus among you that social media is a religion and people who follow it are gullible, because its content is, for the most part, just junk!

My response to Troy was that social media could be considered like a religion.

 

Just like religion, I didn't cast aspersion on those who choose to use social media.

 

As an old man, I have no concern over how people choose to use their time as long as they are not bringing hurt, harm or danger to others.

 

Life is short. In the absence of purpose, people should sink their time accordingly in living to the fullest.

[Troy]

3 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

GQ Magazine is  conspiring to masculinize black women.

Yeah, I think that notion is over the top given GQ far too much credit. If it wasn’t for pioneer I wouldn’t even seen the cover I doubt many other black women have seen it — at least those who I’m not on  social media.

 

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

As an old man

wait just how old are you? You better not be younger than me — cause I’m not an old man

 

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

I have no concern over how people choose to use their time as long as they are not bringing hurt, harm or danger to others

If people spend an inordinate time on social media and they are manipulated into not voting for Kamala and others are manipulated into voting for Trump. Has any harm been done?

 

If people are tricked and manipulated into voting against their self interest by those using social media for this purpose is that time on social media not hurting you?

[ProfD]

2 minutes ago, Troy said:

If people spend an inordinate time on social media and they are manipulated into not voting for Kamala and others are manipulated into voting for Trump. Has any harm been done?

Nope.

 

Social media didn't manipulate people into costing Kamala Harris the election aneld helping POTUS OJ win. 

 

Kamala Harris was the *wrong* candidate. America isn't ready for a female POTUS.

 

The MAGA base is huge. Independent voters rode with them.

 

2 minutes ago, Troy said:

If people are tricked and manipulated into voting against their self interest by those using social media for this purpose is that time on social media not hurting you?

Again...nope.  Poor people have been voting Republican long before social media. 

 

Ask poor white people if they're hurting under POTUS OJ. Wait for answer. Don't interrupt.

 

 

[Troy]

10 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Kamala Harris was the *wrong* candidate. America isn't ready for a female POTUS.

Hummm I wonder why you say that could it be… I wonder… SOCIAL MEDIA!

 

See to say that Kamala was the wrong candidate implies that Trump was the right one. Which in a normal world would make absolutely no sense but that is what happened.
 

We already know that is what happened when Hillary lost to Trump the first time. At that time, I was still on social media and I had decided not to vote then. @aka Contrarian talk some sense to me and I voted for Hillary.

 

In my book, that was the last straw and I stopped using social media. I have been manipulated and did not realize it.
 

It’s not just me relating a personal anecdote. this has been documented!

 

Trump is a creation of the media primarily social media. If it wasn’t for social media Trump absolutely would not be the president of the United States.

 

Has anyone been harmed?

[ProfD]

4 minutes ago, Troy said:

See to say that Kamala was the wrong candidate implies that Trump was the right one. Which in a normal world would make absolutely no sense but that is what happened.
 

We already know that is what happened when Hillary lost to Trump the first time. 

These women losing the election had more to do with entrenched white patriarchy than anything else.

 

Social media is just another distraction to keep people occupied. Just like religion. 

4 minutes ago, Troy said:

Trump is a creation of the media primarily social media. If it wasn’t for social media Trump absolutely would not be the president of the United States.

POTUS OJ is the personification of white nationalism. The MAGA base wanted him.

 

4 minutes ago, Troy said:

Has anyone been harmed?

Sure. The 95 unalived people in those fishing boats that were blown up.

[Troy]

Just now, ProfD said:

The 95 unalived people in those fishing boats that were blown up.

That’s it? You mentioned that 20 million people might lose their health insurance even if a fraction of those people did how many of them are on life-saving’s meds and will die because they have not gotten the medication they need?

[ProfD]

2 minutes ago, Troy said:

That’s it? You mentioned that 20 million people might lose their health insurance even if a fraction of those people did how many of them are on life-saving’s meds and will die because they have not gotten the medication they need?

Well, if they voted for POTUS OJ, they're getting exactly what they wanted when casting it.

 

They weren't manipulated. In fact, there are poor people in red states who say they don't want ObamaCare. Nevermind the GOP doesn't have an alternative plan.

 

Obviously, those people who voted for POTUS OJ are willing to leave the rock if life-saving meds are no longer affordable.

[Troy]

 

It is sad actually. 400k southern whites boys willingly have their lives to protect the interests of the wealthy. There is little difference today. 
 

they were manipulate then and they are manipulated now.

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Troy said:

It is sad actually. 400k southern whites boys willingly have their lives to protect the interests of the wealthy. There is little difference today. 
 

they were manipulate then and they are manipulated now.

Millions of people have signed up for military service and law enforcement.

 

Millions of people have been killed in wars. Police officers have been killed in the line of duty.

 

All of this service and enforcement is designed to protect wealthy interests in the grand scheme of things.

 

People are not manipulated into service. They get paid to put lives on the line in defending wealthy interests. It's even called a  career.

[Pioneer1]

They say hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have actually signed up to be ICE agents to help with the deportation.

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

They say hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have actually signed up to be ICE agents to help with the deportation.

Sure. It is the perfect job for racist types to legally kick azz and bully people they don't like or want in *their* country.

[Troy]

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

Sure. It is the perfect job for racist types

Right, and how did they become racist?

 

The racist is one who is easily manipulated who cannot think on his own and is probably undereducated and has read very little outside his racist little world. He knows nothing about, does not understand, or simply rejects science.

 

these are the people who waved the confederate flag and who storm the capital

 

They are the toothless uninsured, who fight against the affordable healthcare act, fluoridated water, and vaccines.

 

They wanna replace the Bible for science courses in schools. They want to ban books with black and gay characters in them. They want to teach you the world is 5000 years old, slaves, learned valuable skills and are better off here than in Africa…

 

we need help.

[ProfD]

50 minutes ago, Troy said:

Right, and how did they become racist?

Racists are conditioned by the environment in which they are raised starting with their parents.

 

50 minutes ago, Troy said:

The racist is one who is easily manipulated who cannot think on his own and is probably undereducated and has read very little outside his racist little world. He knows nothing about, does not understand, or simply rejects science.

The racist doesn't need to know anything because they benefit from being white.

 

No matter how under-educated white folks might be, they'll still have more privilege than non-whites.

 

50 minutes ago, Troy said:

these are the people who waved the confederate flag and who storm the capital

They were pardoned by POTUS OJ too.

 

50 minutes ago, Troy said:

They are the toothless uninsured, who fight against the affordable healthcare act, fluoridated water, and vaccines.

A broke one can walk into a bank and get an unsecured loan faster than a non-white person with a high income and a perfect credit score.

 

50 minutes ago, Troy said:

They wanna replace the Bible for science courses in schools. They want to ban books with black and gay characters in them. They want to teach you the world is 5000 years old, slaves, learned valuable skills and are better off here than in Africa…

They want America to return to the land it was before the 1960s.

[Pioneer1]

Some racists are that way from indoctrination and experiences in life, but I think some people are BORN racist.
It has little to nothing to do with how they were raised or what they were taught.

If you were to put them in an isolated or ideal environment where racism didn't exist....they'd START manifesting racist tendencies anyway.
They may feel frustrated, angry, or uncomfortable around other groups of people who don't look like them but since no system exists to justify or articulate to them WHY they feel the way they do...they'd just be confused.

The sex urge is natural, you don't have to be taught it.
HOW to use it....yes...but the feeling itself...no.
So a person raised in the wild will STILL have a sex urge even though there are no people around to teach them what it is or HOW it should be displayed.


What we think of as being "taught" racism is often times merely a REFINEMENT of already inherent racist tendencies in the individual.
Teaching a racist HOW to be a "better" or more effective racist.

Again......
I'm not saying ALL racists fit this description, but I believe many if not most of them do.
It's far too widespread for it not to be genetic or inherent at some basic level.

[Troy]

23 hours ago, ProfD said:

A broke one can walk into a bank and get an unsecured loan faster than a non-white person with a high income and a perfect credit score.

Ignoring a hyperbole, white folks will get their houses taken if they fail to pay that note. They would’ve won most victimize in 2008.

 

23 hours ago, ProfD said:

They want America to return to the land it was before the 1960s.

You mean before cell phones and TikTok, I don’t think so

 

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

but I think some people are BORN racist.
It has little to nothing to do with how they were raised or what they were taught.

See, this is what I mean with flawed ideas and how they compound each other. 

Being born of racist is about as likely as being “born” a Methodist. 

 

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you were to put them in an isolated or ideal environment where racism didn't exist....they'd START manifesting racist tendencies anyway.

I can guarantee you’ve never raised children in a multicultural environment. 
 

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's far too widespread for it not to be genetic or inherent at some basic level.

 

Dude, we live in a white racist culture that is the reason racism exists, but it’s on a decline. the country is not nearly as racist at once was. I said, continuing to decline into races and no longer exist. That’s the trajectory we are on.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

Being born of racist is about as likely as being “born” a Methodist. 
 

People aren't born Methodists, but human beings ARE born predisposed to being religious.

Most humans have a natural inclination towards ritual also.
 

When I say "born" racist I mean having a natural or innate inclination towards that mentality that increases and matures with natural development.
Kind of like a sexual orientation.

 

I can guarantee you’ve never raised children in a multicultural environment. 

You better not bet money on it.....lol.

I have and I am...lol.

 

I've raised children in a Black environment and I'm currently raising (and no I'm not married...lol) children in a mixed or multiracial/multicultural environment.

Not only have I seen elements of "colorism" and "featurism" among THEM that they've picked up from other AfroAmerican kids raised in a household without love for self -that we've had to constantly correct and eliminate; but now that we're in a more "multiracial/multicultural" environment it's even worse because we have to counter and eliminate the low self esteem that comes from constantly being in an environment where most of the players don't look like them.
 

And when they've brought White and Latino friends home, I could CLEARLY see the racist tendencies in these kids and how they acted.
Just hanging around Black kids didn't mean they weren't racist.


 

Dude, we live in a white racist culture that is the reason racism exists, but it’s on a decline. the country is not nearly as racist at once was.
 

Is that a fact?

If so, do you think a person like Donald Trump could have gotten elected 30 years ago in the 90s?
Do you think a President would have been able to call a entire group of Black people "garbage" or Black nations "shit hole countries" 30 years ago?

 

[Troy]

On 12/21/2025 at 8:06 AM, Pioneer1 said:

they've picked up from other AfroAmerican kids

Well, then you see that they had to learn it. It wasn’t something that was innate.

 

On 12/21/2025 at 8:06 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Is that a fact?

Donald Trump is a bump in the road, an aberration and it’s not reflective of their overall societal trend.

 

Look within the lifetimes of people alive  today Black people’s basic civil rights were legally taken away,

 

100 years ago we were actively being lynched by hooded Demons, had an entire communities massacred and burned to the ground.

 

150 years ago we were legally enslaved, and people were taught that the Bible and science justified this — of course things are improving. Are you kidding?

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

 

Well, then you see that they had to learn it. It wasn’t something that was innate.

You're using my example to conflate two separate problems: Racism and Self-Hatred

The problem that many of my children's AFRO-AMERICAN and AFRICAN (yes...a few have come over) friends have that influence them to love light skin over dark, love straight or wavy hair over kinky, love green/blue eyes over black.....is SELF HATRED.

The problem that many of my children's WHITE and LATINO friends have that influence them them to think they and their families and their cultures and their cultural accomplishments are better than ours.....is RACISM.

Most forms of racism have to be taught, but not always...some of it is innate.
Self-hatred ALWAYS has to be taught or indoctrinated....it's not natural or innate at all.

Two of those children were partially raised in the Detroit area in a Black community and went to Black schools and when we moved to West Michigan and they started going to mixed schools they eventually hated it.
Although the Detroit area schools had less resources and there were more fights and chances for serious violence, they had more Black teachers and could relate to the other students better and there was more "Black consciousness" in the environment like more soul food joints and other activities for them to engage in.

 

 

 

Donald Trump is a bump in the road, an aberration and it’s not reflective of their overall societal trend.

He's a catharsis.

He was elected because a large percentage of people DO feel the way he does and agrees with what he says, they just are afraid to say it.
They'd rather him do their dirty work.
 

 

 

— of course things are improving. Are you kidding?

 

You say things ARE improving....I say things WERE improving.
But since the 2000 Elections when Bush made his way into office, race relations in society started declining.

No, they're aren't as bad as Chattel Slavery or Jim Crow....yet....but they're headed in that direction again.

[aka Contrarian]

 

Hey y'all. Not only am I a jive assed nigga, I'm a black supremist bigot, full of self love even if I ain't shit and have no status or influence anywhere, - which might be why they call me a loser and dismiss most everything I say.

Don't matter.  I luv my people. They better than all of the other human species. 'Specially us bruthas. If we could just unite under my leadership and let me control the narrative and screw whichever fine sista I pick out, we black folks could take our rightful place in America, - right behind those white Mfers who keep on out doin us.

Gotta go clean the latrines now. Check ya later.