Pioneer1 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 This is the origin of the Theory Of Evolution Charlese Darwin.....a notorious racist.....is widely considered one of the founding fathers of this Theory that White archeologists and other scientists promote in their institutions and that so many silly Black folks support for it's "out of Africa" claims. Notice the term "the preservation of FAVOURED races" in the subtitle? In a nutshell, the Theory of Evolution states that apes OR an ape like species evolved into Africans....and then the Africans evolved into other races. In other word, Africans are LESS EVOLVED and CLOSER TO APES! That's the theory! Do any of you support that? If you support the THEORY of Evolution, then you do. 1
aka Contrarian Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 What is the alternate theory to the origin of species that "sensible" black laymen dispute, and prove Darwin to be wrong about?
Pioneer1 Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 It's hard to "prove" ancient history. Proof involves presenting evidence to support an assertion that convinces a target audience beyond reasonable doubt. This usually involves evidence that you can either experience or witness for yourself. Unless you have a time machine to actually take somebody back in time to experience or witness an event, it's hard to "prove" it beyond dispute. However the most popular alternatives to the Theory of Evolution is Creationism and Interplanetary Seeding.
aka Contrarian Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 In other words, alternate theories; ones whose merits are more aligned with your beliefs. Sounds like a typical case of the kind of approach, ADOs reject when it comes to Afro Americans doing their version of revisionist history.
Pioneer1 Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: In other words, alternate theories; ones whose merits are more aligned with your beliefs. And if we ARE dealing with theories....and not established facts.....then why not? Especially if one theory has just as much evidence to support it as the others.
aka Contrarian Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 Why waste time on theories at all when the only proof is what exists today, - manifestations wherein each group thinks it's better than the other, a mindset that is the one thing they all have in common. Something which will eventually prove to be their downfall.
Pioneer1 Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: Why waste time on theories at all when the only proof is what exists today NOW you're starting to learn It might have took you 90 years or so, but you're getting there. Keep it up.
aka Contrarian Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 @Pioneer1Oh puleeze. Spare me your cherry pickin. Like you're an old sage of wisdom instead of a die hard black fanatic and wanna-be visionary who never misses a chance to promote black superiority even as he drones on and on about what "black folks need to do" - to be worthy of his approval.
Pioneer1 Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 27 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: even as he drones on and on about what "black folks need to do" - to be worthy of his approval. I won't bother telling YOU what you need to do to be worthy of my approval. ....because I know it's a standard you're not capable of achieving anyway, lol.
aka Contrarian Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 @Pioneer1Your approval is the least of my concerns. That should've been obvious when I declined your olive branch which was nothing more than a sprig of poison ivy, befitting your rancid toxicity. 1
Pioneer1 Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 14 hours ago, aka Contrarian said: @Pioneer1Your approval is the least of my concerns. That should've been obvious when I declined your olive branch which was nothing more than a sprig of poison ivy, befitting your rancid toxicity. You declined because you like drama and the attention.
aka Contrarian Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 @Pioneer1yeah, yeah, yeah, ignoring your overtures is an example of my liking attention and drama, huh? Putting your ego-centric, self-serving spin on things, in denial as usual, thinking you have it all figured out. I declined because I had no desire to accommodate your attempt to control the narrative by playing "Mr. NIce Guy", something you really aren't, and I'm fine with not being friends with you. 'Nuff said, move on.
Pioneer1 Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 36 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said: @Pioneer1yeah, yeah, yeah, ignoring your overtures is an example of my liking attention and drama, huh? Putting your ego-centric, self-serving spin on things, in denial as usual, thinking you have it all figured out. I declined because I had no desire to accommodate your attempt to control the narrative by playing "Mr. NIce Guy", something you really aren't, and I'm fine with not being friends with you. 'Nuff said, move on. Who said anything about being "friends"??? I simply gave you an offer to end the friction and unnecessary hostility. Instead, you took that olive branch and WEAPONIZED it. But I'll move on, 'cuz it looks like you're busy trying to pick a fight with somebody else right now.....lol.
aka Contrarian Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 @Pioneer1Yeah, take that contaminated olive branch and stuff it, and save me the trouble of further weaponizing it against your phony civility. And, wooo, who said anything about "picking a fight"?? I was simply asking Tesa a reasonable question but you weaponized this with your distortion powers.
frankster Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: This is the origin of the Theory Of EvolutionI do not Yes...Modern Evolutionary Theory and especially the use of the word evolution.. The Ancients would use the term "After its Kind" On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: Charlese Darwin.....a notorious racist.....is widely considered one of the founding fathers of this Theory that White archeologists and other scientists promote in their institutions and that so many silly Black folks support for it's "out of Africa" claims. Yes Darwin is so considered.... All evidence so far support "out of Africa". It is proper to distrust information coming from both racist Individuals and their racist Institutions. It is also easy to recognize their blind spot....and differentiate it from Facts Evidence and Accurate Interpretation On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: Notice the term "the preservation of FAVOURED races" in the subtitle? Possible blind spot.. On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: In a nutshell, the Theory of Evolution states that apes OR an ape like species evolved into Africans....and then the Africans evolved into other races. You may infer and or accept that if you choose to... We do not descend from apes is clear....so that comparison is false. It can also be said....Whether true or not - That Europeans phenotypically have more traits in common with Apes and Neanderthal On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: In other word, Africans are LESS EVOLVED and CLOSER TO APES! Pure propaganda It is now being Acknowledge in many establish scientific schools of thought and study that Europeans have more Neanderthal Genes than Africans If that be true then one can infer.....they must be closer in relationship to neanderthal than African One can then further infer since Homo sapiens are the most evolved hominids.....and Africans are the purest Homo sapiens - then they must be the furthest from Apes On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: That's the theory! And your understanding and interpretation of it... And possible the reason why you reject it On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: Do any of you support that? Not the racially motivated blind spots On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: If you support the THEORY of Evolution, then you do. There you go trying to "pigeon holing" individuals to your limited understanding.
Pioneer1 Posted February 23 Author Report Posted February 23 frankster Yes...Modern Evolutionary Theory and especially the use of the word evolution.. The Ancients would use the term "After its Kind" "After it's kind" implies things remain the same as they were after they first came into existence (in this Reality atleast). No change. Evolution....on the other hand...by definition implies continual change. We do not descend from apes is clear....so that comparison is false. I don't believe that we do, but that's what the Theory of Evolution implies. It can also be said....Whether true or not - That Europeans phenotypically have more traits in common with Apes and Neanderthal Elijah Muhammad taught that apes came from them. Not that they came from apes...but that apes came from them; trying to change themselves back into the Original Man. One can then further infer since Homo sapiens are the most evolved hominids.....and Africans are the purest Homo sapiens - then they must be the furthest from Apes I don't know about the "purest homo sapiens", however if the Theory of Evolution teaches that other races or especially the White race evolved from Africans.....that clearly implies that Africans are less evolved. There you go trying to "pigeon holing" individuals to your limited understanding. My admitted limited understanding is based on linear thinking (deductive reasoning) and common sense. If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. How else should that theory be interpreted? -Men are mature males. -Ok.... So boys are immature males? -NO NO NO...nobody said that. That's in insult to boys. To call them immature! -Ok... Well do men come FROM boys? -Yes Boys actually BECOME men after they have matured.
frankster Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Yes...Modern Evolutionary Theory and especially the use of the word evolution.. The Ancients would use the term "After its Kind" "After it's kind" implies things remain the same as they were after they first came into existence (in this Reality atleast). No change. Evolution....on the other hand...by definition implies continual change. After its kind....it never said after it self - kind as in "kinda" Changed in the sense of adaptation 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: We do not descend from apes is clear....so that comparison is false. I don't believe that we do, but that's what the Theory of Evolution implies. cool....to you it does - imply. To me it does not.... 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: It can also be said....Whether true or not - That Europeans phenotypically have more traits in common with Apes and Neanderthal Elijah Muhammad taught that apes came from them. Not that they came from apes...but that apes came from them; trying to change themselves back into the Original Man. True....he is entitled to his opinions and beliefs. Does it means that Elijah Muhammad supports The Theory of Evolution? 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: One can then further infer since Homo sapiens are the most evolved hominids.....and Africans are the purest Homo sapiens - then they must be the furthest from Apes I don't know about the "purest homo sapiens", So says science of genetics... 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: however if the Theory of Evolution teaches that other races or especially the White race evolved from Africans.....that clearly implies that Africans are less evolved. I do not know that white humans evolves from black humans....What I do know is that white skin is a recessive trait in humans - mutation/variation. 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: There you go trying to "pigeon holing" individuals to your limited understanding. My admitted limited understanding is based on linear thinking (deductive reasoning) and common sense. Linear Thinking is too dependent on one perspective....deductive reasoning takes into account many perspectives Common sense is usually a collection of prejudices appealed to so as not to have to think 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. That contradicts your earlier assertion of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad that apes evolve from white men....apes appear less evolve than white men to me - is that/this not the case for you? 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: How else should that theory be interpreted? Clearly not the way you are trying to explain it as you have already contradicted your own explanation... One would have to discern Who is fittest and most adapted to their environment.....which is planet Earth. 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: -Men are mature males. Yes 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: -Ok.... So boys are immature males? Yes 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: -NO NO NO...nobody said that. That's in insult to boys. To call them immature! cool 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: -Ok... Well do men come FROM boys? No...Men do not come from boys(as in reproduction). Boys become Men to come from and become are two different things To "come from" is a usually Place of Origin or Direction To "become" is usually a State of Being 18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: -Yes Boys actually BECOME men after they have matured. Speaking physically... Boys change into Men Men do not change to boys Boys become Men Culturally/Socially and Biologically....At which time they can sire or reproduce boys or girls with a fertile women/female Boys come from pregnant women as a baby.
Pioneer1 Posted February 26 Author Report Posted February 26 frankster After its kind....it never said after it self - kind as in "kinda" That is a spin on the actual term...lol. After it's kind means exactly what it says....after it's KIND. As for the degree of similarity....my guess is as good as yours. Changed in the sense of adaptation It said nothing about change. You're inserting that factor. Does it means that Elijah Muhammad supports The Theory of Evolution? I'm not sure, but I doubt it. Based on his teachings, I think he supports the Theory of DE-volution. He believes that humanity has DEVOLVED; especially in the past 50,000 years or so. I do not know that white humans evolves from black humans....What I do know is that white skin is a recessive trait in humans - mutation/variation. They had to come from somewhere. They are a new people on the planet. Not sure about the Asians, but Black people and Native Americans are far older than Whites. So how did Whites get on the planet unless they either came from us or were Created as a group in and of themselves? That contradicts your earlier assertion of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad that apes evolve from white men... No. It contradicts those teachings....not my assertion OF those teachings. Whether I agree with or support them or not, I was right and correct about the teachings. Whether you or "science" agrees with them or not is irrelevant to the fact that that's what they are. ..apes appear less evolve than white men to me - is that/this not the case for you? I'm not sure, to be honest. No...Men do not come from boys(as in reproduction). Men DO come from boys (maturation) Just like butterflies come from caterpillars Boys become Men True also. Worded differently to come from and become are two different things To "come from" is a usually Place of Origin or Direction To "become" is usually a State of Being Semantics....lol. Just like Spanish comes from Latin. Do people take that to mean that the Latin language itself laid down, opened it's legs, and gave birth to a baby named "Spanish"? No. One evolved into the other....lol.
aka Contrarian Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 It's a mystery to me why anybody would even give credence to black supremist Elijah Muhammad's unscientific explanations about "who-came-from-what" theories that are on a par with biblical mythology. At least the theory advanced by black sociologist, Frances Cress Welsing, refers to a proven scientific phenomenon that has to do with spontaneous mutation, a transformation that occurs in all forms of life wherein a radical change from the norm suddenly erupts out of nowhere and starts to replicate itself. Welsing's simple explanation for the Caucasian species is that they mutated from the original humanoid apes and were driven off from their tribe, left to wander into the mountains, eventually increasing their numbers, becoming a new "variety", ( a term which an English scientist originated, and would later replace with the word "race", while assuring that the 2 words were interchangeable). Neil de Gras Tyson, brilliant black physicist, asserts that species don't evolve, but that those which don't adjust to their environment simply die, while the type that do adjust to their environment survive, concluding that it's not about superioriority, and that the superficial differences between "the fittest" who do survive in their environment - are just incidental. All of this other chest-beating is simply mankind being mankind, immersed in a playground mentality, with different groups sticking their tongues out at each other, chanting: "nan-na-nan-na-nan-nan" we're better than you are!" See how simple that is? In the present, I would facetiously remark that where environment adjustment is concerned, black varieties seem to navigate easily in the urban jungles, while white varieties are more adaptable to mountainous sky scrapers, these differences reflecting their positions in the world at large. And so it goes... zzzzzzzzzz
frankster Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: frankster After its kind....it never said after it self - kind as in "kinda" That is a spin on the actual term...lol. After it's kind means exactly what it says....after it's KIND. As for the degree of similarity....my guess is as good as yours. Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind Could earth here mean - Geography... Many Animal and Plants are known for being Regionally specific and Variation specific Geography means Climate...Climate means Flora and Fauna equals Diet and Lifestyle All the ingredients for Adaptations and Mutations Most Living and Non Living things comes in various forms... Kind means a particular type or one of a similar group... Kind even means species On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Changed in the sense of adaptation It said nothing about change. You're inserting that factor. Change is a Universal Constant Evolution is about Natural Selection (Sex Selection and Fitness) which results in Adaptation No two people are Exactly the same....Children do not look exactly like either parent Children may inherit certain features from one parent or the other causing Change On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Does it means that Elijah Muhammad supports The Theory of Evolution? I'm not sure, but I doubt it. Based on his teachings, I think he supports the Theory of DE-volution. He believes that humanity has DEVOLVED; especially in the past 50,000 years or so. I would agree On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: I do not know that white humans evolves from black humans....What I do know is that white skin is a recessive trait in humans - mutation/variation. They had to come from somewhere. They are a new people on the planet. Not sure about the Asians, but Black people and Native Americans are far older than Whites. So how did Whites get on the planet unless they either came from us or were Created as a group in and of themselves? They are us....Homo sapiens. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: That contradicts your earlier assertion of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad that apes evolve from white men... No. It contradicts those teachings....not my assertion OF those teachings. It contradicts those teachings And those teachings contradicts your earlier assertions....that the latest evolved is the most evolved - or words to that effect On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Whether I agree with or support them or not, I was right and correct about the teachings. Yes if you are referring to the Yakub story line....that Elijah Muhammad my have taught that - I do not know Elijah's teachings on this topic to the full extent. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Whether you or "science" agrees with them or not is irrelevant to the fact that that's what they are. Yes....Elijah's Teachings....whether or not they are accurate or you are accurate about them. What is clear is that Elijah's teachings contradicts your assertion and implications I quote: On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: ..apes appear less evolve than white men to me - is that/this not the case for you? I'm not sure, to be honest. Explain why you not sure that apes are less evolve that white men??? On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: No...Men do not come from boys(as in reproduction). Men DO come from boys (maturation) No....Boys become Men On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Just like butterflies come from caterpillars Butterflies do not come from caterpillars... They transform or morph into a butterfly... You are confusing words colloquial informal usage and their actual meanings. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Boys become Men True also. Worded differently That's is correct verbiage.. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: to come from and become are two different things To "come from" is a usually Place of Origin or Direction To "become" is usually a State of Being Semantics....lol. No it is not. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Just like Spanish comes from Latin. Spanish Evolved Derived Descended or even Influenced by Latin.... "Come from" is informal and does tend to confuse. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: Do people take that to mean that the Latin language itself laid down, opened it's legs, and gave birth to a baby named "Spanish"? No. Exactly..... that is what "comes from" means as in - a baby comes from its mother Thanks for the confession....though it seems you did not know, that is what you did. On 2/26/2026 at 5:27 PM, Pioneer1 said: One evolved into the other....lol. Yes...sort of.
Pioneer1 Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 frankster Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind Could earth here mean - Geography... No. Earth is a planet Geography is a study Two different concepts. Often related, but still different. Geography means Climate No. Climate is often PART of Geography, but they aren't the same. ...Climate means Flora and Fauna equals Diet and Lifestyle All the ingredients for Adaptations and Mutations Not ALL of the ingredients....because the words "mutate" and "mutation" aren't found in the text. Again, YOU are inserting them in there. They aren't in the Bible. You're attempting to make your beloved scriptures line up with modern "science". Change is a Universal Constant Evolution is about Natural Selection (Sex Selection and Fitness) which results in Adaptation Yeah? Well in Genesis Chapter 1 we read: 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. According to THOSE scriptures, not only did GOD bring forth and create the vegetation and animals for them to reproduce after their kind, but HE saw that they were good. Why would that which is already good need to "change" or "adapt" or "evolve"???? And those teachings contradicts your earlier assertions....that the latest evolved is the most evolved - or words to that effect My assertion is a logical and correct assertion....that in theory the latest evolved is the most evolved. Evolution is...again in theory...a PROGRESSIVE CHANGE. There for the last one to change is the most progressive and evolved one of the group until another evolves from it. Yes....Elijah's Teachings....whether or not they are accurate or you are accurate about them. What is clear is that Elijah's teachings contradicts your assertion and implications I quote: On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Elijah Muhammad's teachings do NOT contradict MY assertion. They contradict the assertion that I'm REFERING to...the Theory of Evolution. Elijah Muhammad didn't teach that Whites "evolved" from Africans. Explain why you not sure that apes are less evolve that white men??? I don't have enough knowledge or information to determine who evolved from who. No....Boys become Men Semantics "Come from" is informal and does tend to confuse. It confuses those who aren't familiar the language. "Good morning" is a declaration in actuality. You are declaring that a morning is "good" despite what YOU may be going through or without regard to what the other person may be going through. However that statement is commonly used as a polite greeting. Ya dig? Ya understand where I'm comin' from?
Chevdove Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: In other word, Africans are LESS EVOLVED and CLOSER TO APES! That's the theory! Do any of you support that? LOL, No. And, I just recently read that Darwin had a relative, I think a cousin that became very famous for starting a major company that supported Eugenics. I just read that Epstein was obsessed with Eugenics.
frankster Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind Could earth here mean - Geography... No. True Depending on where you are on Earth....Creatures of a Kind may Appear with differing characteristics. 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Earth is a planet True..... 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Geography is a study Yes the study of the .... geography is a science/study that deals with the description, distribution, and interaction of the diverse physical, biological, and cultural features of the earth's Systems and Processes of Weathering and Climates. Which only serves to further elucidates and support what I am saying... 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Two different concepts. Often related, but still different. Yes...Earth is the Planet and Geography is the Study of the Planet 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Geography means Climate No. Climate is often PART of Geography, but they aren't the same. Climate is a Part of Geography....of course they are not the same Geography encompass climate....climate is a subset of geography - they are not separate 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: ...Climate means Flora and Fauna equals Diet and Lifestyle All the ingredients for Adaptations and Mutations Not ALL of the ingredients....because the words "mutate" and "mutation" aren't found in the text. Those words weren't made/coin yet....but the actually process was already on going The words "after its kind" was one of the ways the Ancients reference it 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Again, YOU are inserting them in there. They aren't in the Bible. The phrase "After its Kind" is 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You're attempting to make your beloved scriptures line up with modern "science". I am not Attempting....on this point they do **Forgive me my computer began acting up and things got deleted if I left out anything please bring it to my attention** Change is a Universal Constant Evolution is about Natural Selection (Sex Selection and Fitness) which results in Adaptation Well in Genesis Chapter 1 we read: 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. According to THOSE scriptures, not only did GOD bring forth and create the vegetation and animals for them to reproduce after their kind, but HE saw that they were good. Why would that which is already good need to "change" or "adapt" or "evolve"??? **The above what I tried to reinsert** here is my responses Genesis 30:37-34 And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods. And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted And Jacob did separate the lambs, and set the faces of the flocks toward the ringstraked, and all the brown in the flock of Laban; and he put his own flocks by themselves, and put them not unto Laban's cattle. 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: According to THOSE scriptures, not only did GOD bring forth and create the vegetation and animals for them to reproduce after their kind, but HE saw that they were good. Why would that which is already good need to "change" or "adapt" or "evolve"???? Because Perfection is unattainable for Creation and creatures.....but it is Good - Satisfactory Desirable and Godlike or Godkind 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: And those teachings contradicts your earlier assertions....that the latest evolved is the most evolved - or words to that effect My assertion is a logical and correct assertion....that in theory the latest evolved is the most evolved. It is incorrect.... The most evolve depends on Natural and Sex Selection and Fitness 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Evolution is...again in theory...a PROGRESSIVE CHANGE. Yes....not all change is Adaptive(progressive) - some are Maladaptive(regressive). Yes so you say and you also quoted Muhammad teachings that oppose that teaching... Saying in short...That monkeys De/Evolve from White men 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yes....Elijah's Teachings....whether or not they are accurate or you are accurate about them. What is clear is that Elijah's teachings contradicts your assertion and implications I quote: On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Elijah Muhammad's teachings do NOT contradict MY assertion. Yes it does... On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: Elijah Muhammad taught that apes came from them. Not that they came from apes...but that apes came from them; trying to change themselves back into the Original Man. Exactly Elijah taught....Apes came from white men and you implied that last to evolved is the most evolved - Then if the apes are the last to evolved...then according to your theory they then must be the most evolved. On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: the White race evolved from Africans.....that clearly implies that Africans are less evolved. On 2/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, Pioneer1 said: In other word, Africans are LESS EVOLVED and CLOSER TO APES! On 2/23/2026 at 3:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. _______________________________________________________________________________ you also said: Elijah Muhammad taught that apes came from them. Not that they came from apes...but that apes came from them; trying to change themselves back into the Original Man. Those two statements can only be reconciled if you believe ....Apes are more Evolved than White man... Do You Believe Apes are more Evolved than White men? 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They contradict the assertion that I'm REFERING to...the Theory of Evolution. They also contradict your assertions and implications.. 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Elijah Muhammad didn't teach that Whites "evolved" from Africans. If Elijah's theory of the origin of the white man is based on the Yacub story Who did Yacub experiment with...apes?? Was Yacub black or white? 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Explain why you not sure that apes are less evolve that white men??? I don't have enough knowledge or information to determine who evolved from who. Ok Does modern society and its inventions does not provide enough information? 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: No....Boys become Men Semantics Call it what you like 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: "Come from" is informal and does tend to confuse. It confuses those who aren't familiar the language. So true....maybe more true than you realize or know. 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: "Good morning" is a declaration in actuality. I thought it was a greeting... of/or acknowledgement of another presence 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You are declaring that a morning is "good" despite what YOU may be going through or without regard to what the other person may be going through. However that statement is commonly used as a polite greeting. Ya dig? Ya understand where I'm comin' from? word.
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