Anthropic’s moral conflict is playing out in real time

Dario Amodei built Anthropic to avoid this very kind of moment.

In a stunning essay Saturday, the chief executive of one of the leading AI companies echoed many of the doomsday warnings—from current and recent employees—that sparked panic across the nation this past week.

Anthropic’s moral conflict is playing out in real time

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I'm not too interested in the subject of this article itself but posted it to illustrate the difference in concerns so many people in this society seem to have to deal with.
The gap seems to be as wide as the Pacific.

First of all, what "moral conflict" are we talking about here???

When I hear rich atheistic people talk about "moral conflicts" and "doomsday" it tickles me because they're hypocritically using terms for ideas they pretty much reject anyway.
And it's usually over something the average person wouldn't even consider worth discussing.

There's nothing moral or immoral about using AI.
It's just another tool they've invented to increase production, cut the labor force, and explore innovation.
It could be good or bad depending on your perspective.
But the claim to....whatever they're talking about....leading to "panic" all over the nation is what got my attention.

Many people are dealing with homelessness, power outages, diseases, chronic illnesses, low wages, gang violence, and other REAL PROBLEMS around this nation....so who the fuck is "panicking" over this?
.....besides a bunch of rich bastards who's lives are going so great that they have nothing else to worry about EXCEPT this?

Dialysis clinics are popping up all over the nation because of so much diabetes and kidney failure among people....but THIS is causing people to "panic" across the nation?????

It just shows you how people are living in different Realities as illustrated by their starkly different concerns.

The alarm bells went ot off when the essayist wrote that AI could kill off the human population before the decade ends.

Surely, whatever problems humans have in society right now would disappear immediately upon their demise.

Using this AI warning as a scare tactic or as motivation, if people knew they only had 5 or less years left to live, I wonder how differently they would approach life. 😎

Are We Living In Separate Realities?

Yes....We all live in our own Subjective Reality and a Shared(agreed upon)Reality... then there is Objective Reality(things as they are)

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Anthropic’s moral conflict is playing out in real time

Dario Amodei built Anthropic to avoid this very kind of moment.

In a stunning essay Saturday, the chief executive of one of the leading AI companies echoed many of the doomsday warnings—from current and recent employees—that sparked panic across the nation this past week.

Anthropic’s moral conflict is playing out in real time

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Much ado about a foregone conclusion...

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

🙄

I'm not too interested in the subject of this article itself but posted it to illustrate the difference in concerns so many people in this society seem to have to deal with.
The gap seems to be as wide as the Pacific.

First of all, what "moral conflict" are we talking about here???

My understanding....I Am open to correction

The Moral conflict that Dario Amodie has been talking about historically is using AI for Life and/or Death autonomous use (without human intervention or decision making input) and Mass Domestic surveillance...by the Security State and the Military Industrial Complex

The article seems to be more concern with the Moral conflict of Making Money and Being First to Market regardless of the Technology's threat to humanity...Doomsdayism.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

When I hear rich atheistic people talk about "moral conflicts" and "doomsday" it tickles me because they're hypocritically using terms for ideas they pretty much reject anyway.
And it's usually over something the average person wouldn't even consider worth discussing.

What ideas do they reject?

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There's nothing moral or immoral about using AI.

Like all tools it depends on what Purpose it is being used for...

Unlike most tools it depends on what information it was fed.....or built/based on.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's just another tool they've invented to increase production, cut the labor force, and explore innovation.
It could be good or bad depending on your perspective.

Unlike most tools AI makes Decisions.....that can and does affect the life of human beings.

Whether through Recommendations or Assisted Decision by providing Information Conclusions and Judgements.

The Threat posed by AI is the possibility of Loss of Control

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But the claim to....whatever they're talking about....leading to "panic" all over the nation is what got my attention.
Many people are dealing with homelessness, power outages, diseases, chronic illnesses, low wages, gang violence, and other REAL PROBLEMS around this nation....so who the fuck is "panicking" over this?

The above is about Control/oppression and Market Protectionism Money making schemes

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

.....besides a bunch of rich bastards who's lives are going so great that they have nothing else to worry about EXCEPT this?

AI has been shown to express Racial Bias...to the Disadvantage of Blacks - and to the Advantage of Whites

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Dialysis clinics are popping up all over the nation because of so much diabetes and kidney failure among people....but THIS is causing people to "panic" across the nation?????

Yes.....One wants to solve issue when they are small and manageable..

Rather than when they are large and exploding exponentially...

Diabetes is causing panic in those who are suffering from or with it and their immediate family and loved ones......

For others it is an opportunity

Most everyone else involve in the diabetic world are either in the Food or Medical industry and they are benefiting by making money from it....

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It just shows you how people are living in different Realities as illustrated by their starkly different concerns.

Yes....

Things that panic you or seems as opportunity for others while still other are unconcerned in anyway.....

ProfD

The alarm bells went ot off when the essayist wrote that AI could kill off the human population before the decade ends.

I'd consider it more a matter of crying wolf.

There's no chance AI in and of itself could do this because it doesn't think for itself, it takes it's orders from humans.

However I can certainly see somebody or some group TRYING to kill off a substantial amount of the human population and BLAMING it on AI.

Using this AI warning as a scare tactic or as motivation, if people knew they only had 5 or less years left to live, I wonder how differently they would approach life.

I'd quit working and find other means to make a living...lol.

Some people think it's too scary or morbid to know exactly when you'd die, but I often wonder if it would actually be BETTER in the long run to know exactly when and how you'd die.

Atleast you'd know what to spend time on and what NOT to waste time on.

If you knew you only had 5 years left....I doubt most people sign up for medical school...lol.

But a bet a LOT of people would apply for mortgages on houses....lol.

frankster

Insightful response

It's going to take me a minute to digest it....lol.

frankster

Yes....We all live in our own Subjective Reality and a Shared(agreed upon)Reality... then there is Objective Reality(things as they are)

What's the difference between the Shared Reality and the Objective Reality?

My understanding....I Am open to correction

The Moral conflict that Dario Amodie has been talking about historically is using AI for Life and/or Death autonomous use (without human intervention or decision making input) and Mass Domestic surveillance...by the Security State and the Military Industrial Complex

Since when did "morals" ever become an issue or prevent White folks from using the technology available to them to enrich themselves and oppress others?

They were using the technology at their disposal for mass domestic surveillance and taking people's lives BEFORE the advent of AI....and not giving a damn whether the public agreed with it or not.

The article seems to be more concern with the Moral conflict of Making Money and Being First to Market regardless of the Technology's threat to humanity...Doomsdayism.

See, and this is what I mean about the hypocrisy of these people.

The entire reason they generate this shit is to make money.

Their motive IS profit!

If they were truly concerned about the future of humanity, they wouldn't have continued to manufacture nuclear weapons which are much more dangerous than AI.

What ideas do they reject?

They reject the idea of Beings superior to humanity.

They feel THEY have the ultimate authority.

They reject the idea of Divine Morality....universal rights and wrongs.

They reject the idea of a Judgement Day, that they often colloquially call "Doomsday"

Like all tools it depends on what Purpose it is being used for...

Unlike most tools it depends on what information it was fed.....or built/based on.

Which is why I told ProfD that while AI itself wouldn't try to kill humanity, those who ARE trying to kill humanity may feed it information on the best methods to do this!

And ofcourse, they'd then point to AI and make the claim that AI was trying to kill off humanity while hiding their wicked hand.

AI has been shown to express Racial Bias...to the Disadvantage of Blacks - and to the Advantage of Whites

Sure.

If it was programmed BY racists, ofcourse it will express racial bias.