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The fact that NILF/NEET folks between 21-54 years old have always existed to some degree whether being trust fund or living off other people; it's easy to believe those #s will increase with AI taking jobs. If a UBI comes to fruition, I also believe it will definitely lead to more NILF/NEET folks because they will have just enough money to continue living off other people. Again, there's no shortage of able-bodied people between the age of 21-54 who do not work for one reason or several.😎

You got white people tryin' to kill you man? Remember most murders occur within ethnicities. So-called white people murder other white people. You should watch fewer videos like the one you posted, it is distorting your perception of reality. I'm not sure what the motivation is for these folks to be spreading this nonsense, for lack of a better word, on social media. I get the brother is he probably making money, but the women whose videos he shared to bolster his point what are they getting out of it? Now I'm not suggesting you be the only Black person at a Klan rally... Related Side Bar: A few days ago I was in a hotel in Vegas in the lobby was a SEA of white people on a line. I had no idea what they were waiting for, but I saw one sista sister. I looked at her trying to make eye contact as I walked by and she looked through me. I thought that was odd. She was with a white boy, so I figured that might be the reason. A couple of hours later I came back to the hotel and noticed swole dudes with ears pieces and dogs, SWAT vehicles and that same line was still moving! Looking more closely I began to notice red, white and blue and I saw someone sporting a MAGA hat. I was like, yo! Trump must be here. I spotted another sister. The only two Black people or people of ANY color I saw on that long ass line. Those two sistas were derranged, but perfectly safe :-)

Yeah, I think that was because Puffy did not pay him what he was owed. But that could just be a rumor... I seem to recall learning that in some documentary about Puff. After seeing him kick that woman's butt in the hotel hallway, it was hard to see him in a positive light again.

I had to look up "prolapsed uteruses" The uterus can extend outside the vagina -- Yikes!

Really? China does allow foriegn ownership of real estate. HHowever the Chinesse are perhaps the largest for foriegn owners of real estate in the US. Ther US buys far more from VChina than they buy from us. How do white folks "own" China?

OK, I just read the article; what conclusions did you draw from it? They say the data is self-reported, which you have to take with a grain of salt. They say the number of NILFs has increased since 1965, but so has the population, they don't appear to control for that. They include people in school in those numbers. It makes no sense to mix people getting an education with those who are not working and not looking for work How many of these men are independently wealthy and don't need to work? Again, the real question is what conclusions are you drawing from the article ot leads you to believe that UBI will create more NEETS?

Tax liability can be reduced by employing more people. US Department of Labor. They are stll being exploited. I know the definitions. I question who gets to make the laws. Wealth can be spread &/or sheltered before it gets taxed. There's no reason to have a class of have-nots. Easier said than done for a whole lotta folks across generations. Very few people actually do hard work. Most working folks don't become rich or wealthy. People who inherit money didn't earn it either. Right. They do get to keep & enjoy most of that money after taxes. A woman is not a man's possession like money & material things. Right. The system would have to be fair & balanced....produce justice. Humans have the ability to think, rationalize & reason & solve problems constructively. 😎

This movie is an interesting take on possession: Possession is another phenomena that will continue to fascinate humans & generate money in the form of books, TV & film.😎

According to the article & others like it...there's no shortage of NILF/NEET folks. They've always been around too. I have known quite a few.😎

That is true Then lets put those two paragraph in text.... Sounds good....but all that will provide is whats already written of in books. True.... There are safe ways....not that i know - but i have read of What do you know or read of about these things? And I from you

I don't know any off the top of my head. I guess Neets and I travel in different circles. Wait, what? You're an anti-vaccer too? Surely I knew this, and you fit the profile, but I guess I just forgot. I don't know about that. The NEET lifestyle -- the dependency of an able-bodied-adult on someone else -- requires a child-like mentality. Mature adults can support themselves and take pride in doing it. Adults are not going to just opt into the NEET mentality because the government is passing out checks. It will be used for temporary support for whatever reason, illness, education...

Great story. "...prettiest girl that had ever spoken to me." I love that line in this context 70 years later. Glad it was not followed up with something like. "...and we've been married 65 years." "Thus fortified, I joined the Marines a year later." was a surprising follow-up :-)

ProfD Taxation doesn't take money by force. Problem is wealthy people do not pay a proportional amount compared to lower classes. Since I'm not rich, I'm not sure what's really going on with rich people and the tax situation in the United States. I used to think everybody was under a flat tax and we all paid the same percentage. Then I found out the U.S. has a progressive tax system where the higher your income the bigger PERCENTAGE of your money they take! Which isn't fair in my opinion. This has to atleast contribute to a lot of the games many rich people are forced to play to keep their money from being confiscated from them unfairly. If we had a fair tax system that taxed everyone at the same rate, I believe most wealthy people would be less likely to play games and look for loopholes to avoid paying. The working folks will get paid a livable wage unlike chattel slavery. Who's going to guarantee this? Will the government be paying them directly? Or will the government FORCE private businesses to pay their employees a certain rate? Today, there are exploitative working conditions that migrant workers endure in jobs that American workers wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. Correct, but THEY'RE not complaining. Many of them are happy as hell for the opportunity TO work and get SOMETHING, compared to where they came from. The question is how one defines illegal & immoral. The same white folks who created those laws allow wealthy people cheat, er, hide their money by manipulating tax laws. It's simple. Illegal means against the law...whether those laws are Constitutional, Federal, State, or Local. Immoral means unrighteous. Not right or just. There's a difference between robbing someone of their money & taxing them for the privilege of living within a system that allows them to earn it. True. But what good is allowing them to earn it if you're going to turn around and TAKE it from them??? You're basically raising a fatted calf or pig to be slaughtered and fed. Again, nobody has to be poor in the richest nation on the planet. Class is a construct that creates certain conditions that can be further exploited for employment & profit. Class is a construct, but an inevitable one because EVERY society has a class structure. Some are more complex than others. Even a remote tribe in the middle of the jungle has a "chief" and him and his associates are in a higher class than the rest of the tribe. Social services, law enforcement, legal system & medical industry to name a few benefit from chaos & confusion. Wealthy people benefit even moreso. So it would behoove one to GET OUT of poverty if they can, so they won't fall victim to this chaos and confusion. Beyond mental health issues, most personal problems stem from having limited resources. Facts. When I refer to people doing a better job of taking care of each other, it doesn't mean they individually have to stop whatever they're doing to help someone else. Humans taking care of each other is supporting institutions that serve as societal safety nets. I agree. Paying taxes or giving to charities or donating food are ways of helping each other that require very little effort. I agree, as long as those taxes aren't unfairly or extraordinarily high out of proportion. When taxes become too high, it then becomes a PUNISHMENT for earning money and discourages people from being productive in the first place. Why work hard and smart and try to get rich, if somebody is just going to take your wealth from you anyway??? Governments are the overarching agency with the responsibility of taking care of its citizens. Anyone with more resources than they can possibly spend in their lifetime or the next can definitely help others. You're right. However don't neglect the fact that many people would rather most of their excess and disposable resources be PASSED DOWN to their children, grand children, and great grand children; instead of redistributed to strangers who didn't earn it. There's no such thing as pocket watching a multimillionaire or billionaire or trillionaire. They have so much money that it doesn't fit in their pockets or one Brinks truck.🤣 But it's still THEIR money. You may have a wife and girlfriend on the side. The brutha with NO luck with women may see it as only fair that since you have so many women you should share YOUR WIFE with him a couple nights a week because he's lacking. All should be scolded if they are wasting money on material things & wars. If those material things make them happy AND it's not harming others, I say let them have at it. Society has a way of conditioning the masses of people to think & act in certain ways to achieve desired outcomes which includes the maintenance of class based systems True. However when it comes to "fantasy" societies like Communist and Socialist systems, there's a reason most of those societies don't last longer than 100 years. They LOOK good on paper, but are impractical because they don't take human nature and human desires into account. Any system that FORCES everybody to live the same way with the same amount of money despite differences in intelligence, skill, and ambition; is a system that is oppressive and will ultimately fail and implode on itself. Humans are NATURALLY uneven and unequal.....just like the fingers on your hand. Any attempt to "even out" humanity will be just as harmful as attempting to "even out" the fingers on your hand....lol.

frankster Our Knowledge on the subject Something tells me that can be summed up in 2 paragraphs....lol. So thats all you want stories? I want FACTS directly from those who either experienced them or observed them personally. The most direct account is to Experience it.....for yourself True. But I'm not sure if that would be the WISEST thing to do before consulting with those who HAVE, first. Who knows maybe we learn something from each other I'm already learning a thing or two from you....ABOUT you, lol. ProfD The next step would be putting in that zipper work & taking matters into her own hands. The next step would have been to keep our relationship strictly at work. I should have tried to get all of the goodies I could WHILE we were working and the opportunity was at it's clearest. Then again, I didn't know she was married........... Even when I was younger, I didn't have actual sex with married women.

It's funny that you're posting this right now, because JUST THIS MORNING I was reading this article and thought about our discussion about young and middle aged men not working.................... Voices: The silent shame of fiftysomethings looking for work is a huge problemWe are all familiar with Neets. We usually take the term to mean younger people not in education, employment or training. But should we be broadening the term to include an older cohort? Voices: The silent shame of fiftysomethings looking for work is a huge problem It seems as if this society tries TO shame people who are over 50 looking for work, as if being middle aged guarantees a steady source of income. I remember just a few years ago I had to find a new job because I wouldn't accept the vaccine my old job wanted us to take. Different things come up in life. NEET was coined in the UK but it's essentially the same thing as NILF. Again, people who aren't actively in the labor force nor in the classroom. Which explains why I hadn't heard of the term, despite the article claiming "we've all" heard of the term before....lol. Now, there's a huge population of people who were raised to look down on working with their hands but whose education does not provide skills to do real work. Facts. NILF/NEET people have a support system of family & friends in place allowing them to live a life of leisure while unemployed. Many of them are mooching off of friends, lovers, and relatives....but that type of strategy rarely lasts over a decade. Your parents eventually die, your friends get tired of supporting you, and your lover finds somebody else to love. With the exceptions of your parents...depending on how long they live....those other options rarely last over 5 years. Which means these people MUST either find a source of income or end up homeless, in prison, or dead. Baby Boomers & Gen-Xers are taking care of adult offspring & grandchildren too. They provide the housing & food, the basic necessities that enable NILF/NEET people to survive. More facts. You don't know how many 50 and 60 year olds I know who's grown ass 30 year old kids.....SONS....are still living with them. And some of these dudes have the NERVE to sit up and argue with their parents and not like being told what to do! IMO, any form of the Universal Basic Income (UBI) will increase the NILF/NEET population too. No doubt. There's no shortage of manufacturing & building & maintenence that needs to be done all over the planet. Therefore, no excuse for people being unemployed. The excuse is THEY aren't fit for those jobs, no matter how many are available....lol. You can't hold a job if you're constantly high, have ADHD, or otherwise anti-social. Would YOU want to live in a house some red-eyed mumble mouthed nigga with only a half a brain (because the other half got shot out back when he was living a gansta lifestyle) and a chronic weed addiction? In addition tp getting paid, I believe gainful employment makes people more interesting & well-rounded from a social perspective. The labor force also gives men & women a chance to meet & make positive connections too. There are far more benefits to working rather than sitting around all day doing little or nothing. MAN, you took the words right out of my....fingers??....lol. Work has always been a GREAT place to meet people, even in today's politically correct environment. You'd even work for low pay, if you enjoy what you do and the people you're doing it around. Most jobs I've been on I liked because of the people. I looked forward to seeing what kind of drama will unfold that day.

In the words of Fonzy from Happy Days....."exactamundo".....lol. One thing.... I believe Black Lives Matter sprung up as a result of the Michael Brown murder, not George Floyd. I remember they were around atleast as far back as 2016 because I had some BLM members working with me and my organization to help with the Flint Water Crisis back in 2016.

frankster Thats just The cool pose ....machismo - bravado It's not JUST a pose or a front. Compared with men of other races, when it comes to PHYSICAL abilities...Black men are clearly more confident. Whether it's sports, sex, fighting, or dancing. You can say anything you want.... Can you back it up.....or you just picking numbers out of head? Who can back up statements concerning casualty counts when it comes to mass murder and genocide in history? Every tragedy will have a dozen different figures of how many millions were killed and that number will differ based on the perspective of who's giving the report. They can't agree on exactly how many men were killed in the U.S. Civil War alone. It was your example....You said he was Once rich Correct, but "have" is PRESENT TENSE. Him having BEEN rich isn't the same as him BEING rich. Likewise White folks having BEEN conquered, colonized, and enslaved isn't the same as them BEING in those conditions today. I'm asking you examples of them BEING in that condition TODAY. Some have lost it...others are losing it There is no denying who is still the hegemon...they are Correct. I see you get my point. Just as there is no deny that most of us are no longer in Chattel Slavery or overt Political and Military Colonialism Facts...for the most part. But when it comes to overt military colonialism.....I'm not so sure. It appears that some African countries are directly subordinate to the military protection and rule of Western or Russian powers. Then you will remain a pawn....control by others and told what to think and believe. Unless you are part of nobility or a high government official, you're a pawn anyway. That includes YOU...lol. You are told what to think and believe and for the most part YOU believe it. As far as those things you choose not to believe...... The powers over you CONTROL the amount of information you receive so your beliefs and thoughts are limited anyway. My resources cannot compete...with them Correct, so you shouldn't have so much confidence in them. I find I am usually pretty accurate and correct in my assessment If THATS what you find, then apparently you're not looking hard enough...lol. In my interactions with you I've found quite a few inaccuracies and incorrect statements. ....and I didn't even have to LOOK that hard to find them, lol. I have no such resource....i have to that which is available and accessible to me Exactly. Which is one of the reasons I say your information, knowledge, and thinking are LIMITED. It may not sound smart ....but it maybe wise A wise man weighs his options as well as the pros and cons of the decisions he makes. A WISE man may come to the conclusion that he's better of not joining ANY plantation. He may come to the conclusion that he's better off taking his chances living in the woods or dead, than be a slave. You saw and heard Mandela's answer to that question....yet you ask it again They gave personnel money training weapons support to defeat....the colonialists. While the West gave the same to the Colonial oppressors Russia gave money, training, and weapons to Black South Africans to defeat the White colonist Afrikaners? When was this? I don't remember their being an ARMED conflict between Black South Africans and the White rulership. Let alone one supported by Russia. It is a point of weakness.....but you were raised to believe it is the greatest show of machismo Most heterosexual men don't have to be "raised" to seek women and wealth. It's a natural desire that automatically comes when boys hit puberty and continues for the rest of their lives. Again, if you are a heterosexual man you should KNOW this already....lol. It doesn't have to be taught. This desire doesn't necessarily make them weak, though unrestrained it can be used against them in certain circumstances. You think you have to prove you are a man....what that tells me Well tell me - when did I say this? You do not want to control people.....you want to lead people through and by organizing them around issue that concern and affect them. That involves controlling them to a certain extent. You can't lead people without having a measure of control over them. Do you have more money than the oppressors? No You can not use money and women to control You're naive. You absolutely can use these things and they HAVE been used for thousands of years to control men. ....their loyalty will be to the one who pays the most with the deepest pockets - so long as the money is coming. Which is why we need to make sure we have enough wealth for our people to rely on us, and not their enemies. If they are into money and women....them they will be tricked by people with money and women who turn tricks Only if they are too lazy or stupid to EARN these things and get them for themselves without the aid of their enemy. If they are able to recognize reason....then maybe they will be led by the wise Led where? To a monastery to become priests???? You've already condemned the desire for money and women, so apparently you want Black men to be MONKS who sit around not desiring anything anymore....less they be controlled and manipulated by those desires, lol. Most men....especially Black men...don't want to fight and put their lives on the line for a cause they are deriving no benefits or pleasures from.

American Enterprise Institute - AEIWhat Do Prime-age 'NILF' Men Do All Day?The portrait of daily life that emerges from time-use surveys for grown men who are entirely disconnected from the world of work is sobering.NILF = Not in Labor Force NEET = Not employed nor in education & training NILF is millions of people in the United States of America (USA) between the age of 21-54 years old who are voluntarily unemployed. NILF are not people who cannot get a job. They simply refuse to seek gainful employment. Most of their time is spent in socializing, relaxing & leisure activities. NEET was coined in the UK but it's essentially the same thing as NILF. Again, people who aren't actively in the labor force nor in the classroom. in the USA, there's a million vacant, well-paying blue-collar jobs. Yet, people aren't interested in the work. The push for college education from the 1960s up to present led many folks to believe white-collar jobs would be abundant & exist forever. While people could see out-sourcing labor to other countries & technology replacing blue-collar labor, apparently they didn't foresee it happening to white-collar jobs. Now, there's a huge population of people who were raised to look down on working with their hands but whose education does not provide skills to do real work. NILF/NEET people have a support system of family & friends in place allowing them to live a life of leisure while unemployed. Baby Boomers & Gen-Xers are taking care of adult offspring & grandchildren too. They provide the housing & food, the basic necessities that enable NILF/NEET people to survive. IMO, any form of the Universal Basic Income (UBI) will increase the NILF/NEET population too. There's no shortage of manufacturing & building & maintenence that needs to be done all over the planet. Therefore, no excuse for people being unemployed. Also IMO, the normalization of laziness & acceptance of it especially among able-bodied men does not bode well for the human population. I hope these dudes will turn off their video games & stop scrolling on their phones & get off the couch to seek employment. Put in 40+ hours a week doing real work. In addition tp getting paid, I believe gainful employment makes people more interesting & well-rounded from a social perspective. The labor force also gives men & women a chance to meet & make positive connections too. There are far more benefits to working rather than sitting around all day doing little or nothing.😎

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All of those are definitely choosing signals unless she's a teaser.😁 The next step would be putting in that zipper work & taking matters into her own hands. No confusion. No need for a written & notarized contract.🤣😎

Maybe slightly provocative but @Breck hampton aka Harry's latest post inspired this thread. BLINO (Black in name only) organizations exist primarily as social clubs to serve as controlled opposition within the system of racism white supremacy. As long as Black organizations exist to enrich themselves as glorified social clubs & funded by non-Black people, they will remain ineffective when it comes to protecting Black people & championing our concerns & interests. Black Lives Matter (BLM) sprung up in the wake of George Floyd being murdered & subsequent protests. BLM used that situation to raise a lot of money. They disappeared shortly after the protests. IMO, NAACP & Congressional Black Caucus & other legacy Black organizations are fossilized & too old to help Black people in modern times. Many Black organizations may be great for chewing the fat but at some point they have to spit it out in order to eat real food. It would be great to be proven wrong that these Black organizations are BLINOs. I'll wait for those Black organizations to push legislation & champion reparations specifcally for FBA/AfroAmericans.😎

BLINO (Black in name only) organizations exist primarily as social clubs to serve as controlled opposition within the system of racism white supremacy. Time for a new thread. 😎

Taxation doesn't take money by force. Problem is wealthy people do not pay a proportional amount compared to lower classes. The working folks will get paid a livable wage unlike chattel slavery. There's a difference between the social contract that governments use to take care of people & the maximum profit-oriented approach of free market enterprise. Today, there are exploitative working conditions that migrant workers endure in jobs that American workers wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. The question is how one defines illegal & immoral. The same white folks who created those laws allow wealthy people cheat, er, hide their money by manipulating tax laws. There's a difference between robbing someone of their money & taxing them for the privilege of living within a system that allows them to earn it. There is a fine line between poor & any other class. Again, nobody has to be poor in the richest nation on the planet. Class is a construct that creates certain conditions that can be further exploited for employment & profit. Social services, law enforcement, legal system & medical industry to name a few benefit from chaos & confusion. Wealthy people benefit even moreso. Beyond mental health issues, most personal problems stem from having limited resources. When I refer to people doing a better job of taking care of each other, it doesn't mean they individually have to stop whatever they're doing to help someone else. Humans taking care of each other is supporting institutions that serve as societal safety nets. Paying taxes or giving to charities or donating food are ways of helping each other that require very little effort. Governments are the overarching agency with the responsibility of taking care of its citizens. Anyone with more resources than they can possibly spend in their lifetime or the next can definitely help others. There's no such thing as pocket watching a multimillionaire or billionaire or trillionaire. They have so much money that it doesn't fit in their pockets or one Brinks truck.🤣 All should be scolded if they are wasting money on material things & wars. Their money comes from the people whether it is taxation or consumption of products, goods & services. People have the power to determine how resources are utilized. Their main limitations are selfishness or personal greed or lack of empathy & compassion for others. Society has a way of conditioning the masses of people to think & act in certain ways to achieve desired outcomes which includes the maintenance of class based systems.😎

Thats just The cool pose ....machismo - bravado Well thats what I am talking bout.... You can say anything you want.... Can you back it up.....or you just picking numbers out of head? It was your example....You said he was Once rich "A homeless man who was born into a rich family can't use the fact that he used to take summer vacations on the French Riviera AS A CHILD, as examples of him being rich TODAY...lol." Barbary Coast read up on it....That has happened Some have lost it...others are losing it There is no denying who is still the hegemon...they are Just as there is no deny that most of us are no longer in Chattel Slavery or overt Political and Military Colonialism Yes....that is true It is also true ....that where once we had no political power we now have most of it. Then you will remain a pawn....control by others and told what to think and believe. True And the same is true for you... I have heard great things....reminds me of Mugabe and Mandela etc I am not the or any Government The people I speak to in person were recently on the ground....like less than one month The people I listen online are my eyes on the ground...they there right now My resources cannot compete...with them I find I am usually pretty accurate and correct in my assessment I have no such resource....i have to that which is available and accessible to me Yes You do not eyes on the ground to know what one plus one.....most third graders know that. It may not sound smart ....but it maybe wise You saw and heard Mandela's answer to that question....yet you ask it again They gave personnel money training weapons support to defeat....the colonialists. While the West gave the same to the Colonial oppressors It is a point of weakness.....but you were raised to believe it is the greatest show of machismo You think you have to prove you are a man....what that tells me - is that you are a boy...third grader to be exact Who is still trying to impress massa You do not want to control people.....you want to lead people through and by organizing them around issue that concern and affect them. With that attitude and idea....you are not going to be controlling any one or thing - you are going to be controlled Do you have more money than the oppressors? You can not use money and women to control....their loyalty will be to the one who pays the most with the deepest pockets - so long as the money is coming. Their loyalty is to money and those can procure them women? True If they are into money and women....them they will be tricked by people with money and women who turn tricks If they are able to recognize reason....then maybe they will be led by the wise

I am looking forward to sharing on this topic Our Knowledge on the subject So thats all you want stories? Maybe we can find away to experience Spirit....And understand these things in a way that gives us some amount of control The most direct account is to Experience it.....for yourself Thats all part of it..... The entertainment business ain't that bad.....it tends to pay well Who knows maybe we learn something from each other S