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As expected I have already crossed that bridge....not waiting on officialdom Victimization is a Pillar of Oppression....Victimhood is the condition of being injured - Oppression is the condition of being victimized The injury is both physical sociological and psychological....In others words the injury is real and must be address if a remedy is to be found and used. Living in denial...is lying to self - you can't change what you refuse to confront. True True That is to be seen... Being Ignorant of the facts or knowledge does not mean in anyway that the facts or knowledge do not matter. It denies you the ability to react appropriately in an optimum manner Having the Knowledge is the best way to ensure it's use...The best way to ensure it not being used is to lose it or hide it

Of course... The only exception is....if Officialdom start saying its true Non Human Intelligent Beings are Here Coming and Going. I expect you to deny the truth of the above statement. That's a great way to put it....blame the victim They are....but the Refuters are Real and growing Yes ...That is how the narrative goes and for the most part is true. That is not always the case....sometimes knowledge is Lost or Hidden for all kinds of reason.

I said some claim to have proof....physical evidence such as any material or substance. It is Officialdom's current position... We do not know what (UFO/UAP) are... but We know that (UFO/UAP) are Real.. Maybe you need to read it again There is Evidence both Eyewitness and Instrumentations Recording Cool There is a lot of Evidence... Some Individuals claim to have Proof Cool.... I do not believe everything people say or write....either The UFO/UAP is one I have found in nearly every advance civilization from time immemorial... So yeah and for that reason I say UFO/UAP are real.

True True True True....most people just let Officialdom decide what's real or good enough. Problem with that is @ProfD probable will not recognize it as such. True True.. I do not think aliens built the Pyramid. That's fine too....it is not a new idea Nearly every cultures myth speaks of beings whom have the ability of flight powerful weapons control over aspects of nature and extraordinary knowledge.... Whose abode or from whence the came is in the heavens Not all UFO's are Aliens anymore....Private Companies (usually military contractors) have back engineered their own. We Africans have been written out of continental European history... Currently Trump is white washing and whiting out Black History.... Holocaust Deniers are real...They refute the Nazis committed Genocide against the Jews. True. The used Different technology we are just now grasping. We start with what fits our history culture and myth.

Like...give an example?

What do you consider "Concrete Evidence"? Please do not say it has to be a craft landing in walmart parking lot and aliens stepping out ...it will only be proof for the eyewitnesses As I have shown that will not suffice....all who did not witness it will in all likelihood remain skeptical Some thing similar has been reputed to have had happen in Miami Bayside Mall in 2024....Officialdom said it was kids rampaging - in short a cover up In Rome a foot ball stadium full of spectators all witness a UFO...back 1950's.

True a claim is an assertion....it is not proof If some one claims to have evidence...that is there claim - not my claim If they also claim to have physical evidence...that is their claim - not my own If they make a report/statement....that is as a eyewitness - that in and of itself is evidence If they provide a physical material or substance as evidence....then that can be Proof. Where is the contradiction? Is everything you have ever seen been Identifiable or known to you? Have you ever seen something that you know is real but not what it is?

I remember reading a book that was/is author by a former NASA scientist.. Being a current or former employee and a scientist as well back then was a credentials I needed. Most scientist were working for officialdom....those who turned against officialdom had a lot to lose' The possibility that they were double agents....is a possibility. Some do claim to have evidence...and provide such evidence as proof There report is evidence... Some have claimed to have physical proof... It's Cool...If That's the only value you take from it Beyond the fact that people can see entertainment in anything they choose... Not everyone finds it Entertaining...so you can Speak for yourself and like minded people If by "we" you mean the general public at large....then you are wrong. People are seeing things and some have recordings..... Now we may not know what they are....but they are real - that is no longer in question Officialdom now admits and even authenticate their reality.

Not to me .... They were an exception. Some books have very credible authors... The authors credentials on the topic lends much credibility to his work That depends on the Source and Information Never said they were.... How sure are you that they are coming from the same source? It does that a more

Even that they would not authenticate...now they do. By FOIA usually...pre-emptive True... But there is Change...I would call Progress The Change is from out right Denial...to we can neither Deny or Confirm...then now we can Confirm It certainly is Could be That would be good

True... The important thing is they never used to claim or authenticate such things....so that is a change. That's better for all of us

From the 1940's All the way up to the 1990....most info on UFO came from tabloids and books There was no respectable or credible source reporting on UFO's....except Books and a few Magazines. In the 1990's with advent of The Information Super Highway/Dot Com era....Suddenly information overload. True...

I am not saying the two video are related or crafts they describe are same or related....Nor or they proof of Alien Intelligence. But definitely they are Evidentiary... Air Force veteran Fred Baker shares UAP experiences | Reality Check Pentagon says video released of pyramid-shaped UFOs is authentic

What are UFOs? | Full Documentary | NOVA | PBS

Isolated in terms of Land mass to human population... Also most of Alaska is practically inhospitable and inhabitable. Only in the Ocean or Underground is a better place for Alien bases to be located on earth I do not think they are conflicting.... Alaska is practically the only border the US shares with Russia... Alaska is well surveyed for military purposes.... True... Back in those days it seems they did not take or ask passenger for statements for fear of starting a panic...unless they came forward. Yes....they are tabloid like They are not as reputable as i would like or want Ok i chose that one in a rush and regrettable most of the American coverage i came across is more tabloid like

The following is a oldie but goodie...no actual photo Great story by professionals on the record.. The size was estimated at 4x an aircraft carrier time stamp:- 8:15 - 8:40 The MOST Documented & Credible UFO Event in Aviation History | The Alaska Triangle

Maybe They are always called...standard protocol Usually they call the authorities who first close the scene... then take most if not all necessary evidence. Over the years many ordinary citizens have provide photographs. I would think that some humans....have material of Non Human Origin.

cool True Hopefully we get some good results True Considering I was comparing it to our own vehicles Most new military tech is classified...If perchance it captures something. Then because the instrument used is classified.....the information captured is usually also classified.

From the size of a mini car to that of an aircraft carrier....maybe even larger They average or most common is the size of a jet fighter or their abouts...would be my guest

Yes....Operating them Some are Extraterrestrials...NHI Some are Humans..... Yes They are of various sizes... Hmm....I was not expecting that response?!?! True Yes They military say it to protect their weapons system Talk is where it starts... if there is money to made....it is not being cut

Very interesting.... check out time stamp.... 2:44:00 - 2:49:36 Public Meeting on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (Official NASA Broadcast)

In the simplest terms Government is the Bureaucracy filled with life long unelected career individuals who knows the ins and outs of the system and its rules precepts precedents and secrets. Administration is the Elected Temporary leadership whose job is to Manage and set precedent. Yes Cool True They all have other meanings too I do not need physical evidence....it would be great to have. This is the first tier one operator he is up close but not personal..... with video evidence on the Record. Lets see the fall out..? Debunked by who...if possible provide link cool Some are of the opinion....they are Selected. The Voters are usually give an option between two candidate...Your Choice is who ever you pick

You do not understand Governments.... You are thinking Governments and Administrations are the same. You are believing that Officialdom owes you as a citizen the truth... If you want the truth out of Governments...you must do the work of ever increasing demands that is irrefutable and irresistible. True... Are you saying that people in the UFO field/domain should not profit from The UFO issue? I never denied that people are making money from and off the UFO issue. As a matter of fact there is nothing wrong with making money off the UFO issue....that's my opinion. Funny you should mention that New Years day 2024 Bayside Market Place Miami Florida....it was a Mall very crowded. Many eyewitnesses report an Alien event..... Officialdom says kids playing with explosive and rampaging. That has been done many times... Even the Prophet Yahweh video I posted qualifies... I agree you have a job to perform as an agnostic....to neither Deny or Confirm. An strong Agnostic should sit clearly on the fence......But you are biased towards Denial An unbelieving(atheistic) agnostic if you will. Officialdom feel its their job to placate or pacify the public...As means of Control. Now different factions in an Administration or Party may need....The public to express their anger sometimes. So as to press on(or conceal) an agenda...thereby making an issue irresistible or refutable - Manipulation

Officialdom may not have provide but will make available and accessible these evidence once declassified through FOIA. There is plenty of Evidence out there having met varying level of Confidence True Most if not all such Governmental agencies and program were and are under DOD - Military. This is first that is civilian based orientation. True...sure it generate money Some individual will Use Misuse and Abuse this issue for money .... We have good not great pictures out there....some with great Pedigree True All things are possible....some are Probable. By Nature a Whistleblower is a Double Agent....They are exposing those whom they work for Credible of a Whistleblower is based on them meeting various Criteria... Thereby increasing the Probability of Collecting Accurate True information Are you saying then that UFOs must appear before every individual? Cause you know if you are saying "JUST ME" then you become a Whistleblower and or Believer to the Skeptics In which case the issue for the rest of the Western World the situation Persist. this desire for a personal meet up with alien beings. As I told and showed @Pioneer1 Study your bible as recommend by Prophet Yahweh Or checking out CE 5

True That POV is changing ever so slowly How can say there is no Evidence? Even Officialdom is walking back the Idea of "No Evidence" and "UAP/UFO are not real"..... Officialdom New Position is..... "They are real but we do not know what they are" and "We do not know where they are from or who/what is piloting them" Civilian Governmental Bodies are now being empowered and financed to study UAP/UFO. They will use very little military evidence(only declassified) that has been collected over the years.....NASA is leading this effort A great many things confuse our dear brother @Pioneer1 and its all categorize as .....bullsh8t