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Should we put R Kelly on mute? Is the artist separate from their art? Do celebrated people have a responsibility to their fans? Is the lack of societal bonds creating the need for role models? Should we have a quesadilla or a burrito?

I agree mostly

I feel odd saying good luck to you Troy. We have similar feelings about Trump and Pence. He has to be removed from office because of a legality or is deemed unfit to rule. The unfit to rule covers physical health not emotional or psychological.

Troy you have your position and I have a different one. Which is a function of the differences in our lives. I'll give you an example as kids the biggest insult was to call another guy a faggot. However the same kids went to the Paradise Garage. They were underage boys and we're let in on Gay night. Later on I was in a relationship with a bisexual feminist. She said that was bigotry. To me at the time it was just words but I could hear her. I have had illuminating conversations with Lesbians and Gay men. About domestic violence amongst lesbians. Black Gay men have talked about their being a sexual fetish to Gay white men while also being discriminated against. I have heard white women say that if they are alone, they fear white men more than black men. I have heard women admit to me in private that they find babies of another race more beautiful. I have had strangers and people I know unburden their hearts and minds. Then tell me they never told anyone that story. However I am neither capable more prepared to distill those moments that changed my world view. I am not suggesting that you can't , won't or even should. I am just acknowledging some gaps can't be bridged. Recently I have decided that certain points can't really be discussed. My turning point was being called a racist because I mentioned white privilege.

A man can support the feminist cause but he can't be a feminist. Origin Late 19th century: from French féministe, from Latin femina ‘woman’. It is long because you didn't answer the question. No attorney man can't be a feminist he can only support the feminist cause. Imagine the feminist movement run by all men. Imagine the civil rights movement run by all white people. The root of feminism is woman. Origin Late 19th century: from French féministe, from Latin femina ‘woman’. I am going to stop discussing this topic. Someone else can debate it with you. It strikes me as odd to have two men debating feminism. Which is exactly my point.

That's a very long response but it doesn't answer the two questions I asked you.

Troy can you tell me what it means to be a woman. Or why some women are feminist.

I have been wrong before. Michael Cohen has two court cases and his lawyer thinks he get indicted. I am standing by my astrological prediction. I didn't say anything about Pence. Trump is out that's the prediction. I actually think by July it will be obvious even to the current naysayers.

I am using your definition of narrowness. Yeah I have given up discussing most topics. Not because of disagreement but because the oppositional conviction. An example is anyone thinking Bill Cosby was setup. He admitted in2005 he purchased quualudes for sex with young women You and I discuss hip hop from a similar perspective. That is not accessible to those who don't share our demographic. A white person has at best a second hand experience of racism at best. Does it disqualify them to discuss race absolutely not. My position on racism is that white people need to talk to other white people. Black people have been afforded human status yet.

Yes I am taking a bit of a break as well.

http://beta.nydailynews.com/news/national/bill-cosby-drugs-give-women-sex-article-1.2283239

So he admitted to buying drugs that make you unconscious. That he was using when he had sex. Was he drugging himself? Bill Cosby admitted under oath he used Quaaludes to drug women for sex: court documents

I had heard in the 90's from a friend that worked in the industry. That he was a nasty piece of work. And my friend didn't gossip about the industry. Camille told the truth that's not the man she knows. Which is not the same as he is innocent. Could be which is why I said it was anecdotal.

I would rather be narrow minded. Than assume o understand women's issues Up until the 90's there wasn't any women running a cosmetics firm. So no I am not comfortable setting the agenda for groups of which I am not a member

Yes Troy it's a bet. Trump doesn't finish the year

I heard a women say by that she had to take testosterone. She said it made her horny and angry . Granted it is anecdotal but it may have some validity. I don't know enough of either biology or sociology to discuss the point throughly.

GN INSUBSCRIBE MICHAEL COHEN LAWYER TELLS JUDGE TRUMP ATTORNEY COULD SOON BE INDICTED BY JESSICA KWONGON 4/20/18 AT 4:12 PM 00:00 Stormy Daniels Arrives At Michael Cohen's Hearing U.S.MICHAEL AVENATTIMICHAEL COHENSTORMY DANIELSDONALD TRUMPFBI RAIDINDICTMENT Michael Cohen’s attorney argued in a Los Angeles court Friday that a lawsuit against Donald Trump’s personal lawyer filed by porn actress Stormy Daniels should be delayed because Cohen could soon be indicted. Related: Trump being investigated for pulling ‘con job after con job’ on Americans, Stormy Daniels's lawyer claims Cohen and the president were seeking a 90-day delay to a lawsuit filed by Daniels arguing that a nondisclosure agreement she signed before the 2016 election was invalid because Trump never signed it. On Friday, U.S. District Court Judge S. James Otero postponed ruling on the matter, giving Cohen until Wednesday to file a declaration that he will refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment’s protection against self-incrimination. Cohen had his office, home and hotel room raided by the FBI last week, with agents seizing documents related to the $130,000 payment he made to Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford. As part of his push for a delay, Cohen lawyer Brent Blakely claimed that “the potential indictment of client” puts Cohen "in a very difficult situation," according to CNBC.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daniels/judge-puts-porn-stars-lawsuit-against-trump-lawyer-cohen-on-hold-for-90-days-idUSKBN1HY2YY

Troy let me know how you feel at the end of May. About him finishing the year?

If you are outside the group just stay in your lane. That's my philosophy. Men and women live in different worlds. If you're a guy walking at night you have different concerns than a woman. You may be worried about getting robbed but your not worried about getting raped. For most guys that's not likely and hence it isn't part of their world. So women have certain experiences that are inaccessible to men. Which is why I say women decide this issue.

Is loyalty from disicarnate beings enough

Pioneer if they are chopped up how can they be loyal?

Michael Cohen has pleaded the fifth in the Stormy Daniels case so as not to incriminate himself. he has been under investigation for months. For fraud and tax evasion. So I'll ask again next month but was March the beginning of the end for the Trump presidency?

So is Odell wearing lipstick , I am not familiar with him. However I wouldn't be calling him a women. You never know who is reading the posts.

I am not ridiculing you. It's like the Bill Cosby case you're catching up to my initial position. hee hee hee.