Delano

Or gender stereotypes with sexuality. 

I don't know. But i had a set of twins comment on my sexual persona. The lesbian though I was gay. And the heterosexual one thought i was straight. Some Gay men think I am gay because I dont judge them or don't overcompensate. I just treat them as people. Lesbians it can either go well badly or strangely. 

No I instigate thinking but you have immunity. 

Troy you have a blind spot on this topic. 

In my answer i said Trump ia not a racist. You are confusing me not answering your question , with not giving you the answer you want.

Perhaps you and Pioneer are making sexist statements. Not racial ones. So the problem is that for you and Pioneer your patriarchal mibd is oveeriding the racial one. It reminds me how some white people can't see their own racism. You and Pioneer are judging Viola to be unattractive and are attributing it to racism. You do know that Black seems ti be really gois with dominating or attempting to dominate women. 

It ia never easy when we discover our inner prejudices. 

Thanks for explaining twin. I am going to spectate fie a bit.

Del

This picture is nether wrong nor right to me. The imputedmeanung is not in the picture it is in your mind. If enough people share a hallucination we call it reality.

Hey twin you may be nicer but you aren't a welcome mat.

@Cynique

Here's a brief summary. Its like your soul is male and your body is female. So your thinking is more active. You know your own mind. And arent subject to peer pressure. You also need to feel free. Restrictions or at least pnes posed externally don't take. Then you also can sublimate your goals to work with a team. 

Leo is the King but being King has protocol and restrictions. So throught life ita a challenge to be respected for you. But not to become trapped in other's projections. The following dates may have been pivotal. Plus ir minus ten days. 

Mar 30, 1952

Nov  9, 1970

Jun 20, 1989

Jan 31, 2008.

You are neither gracious nor a client. Which concludes my discussion of this topic with you. Nothing is to be gained, and nor ventured. 

See my post. It was written at the same time as you wrote yours. 

@Troy

Cynique there are signs everywhere if you pay attention.

My phone deletes posts and calls people. 

Yeah Mel and I may have been related. Shes the nicer nore diolomatic twin.

Troy it doesn't feel as though you are open to other views. Not when you say are you the only who believes Trump is racist. What does Pioneer think? 

Troy your statement from time to time.  Implies you are not comfortable agreeing with some of Pioneer's illogical statements that are common sense to him.

Troy I am thinker. I will thoroughly explain racism from my perspective. Although I had done so in a previous post. 

I forgot the Trump question. Trump is not a racist he is an opportunist and misanthrope. His biographer says Trump has no philosophy. Its just grab as much ___ as you can. He did a photo op with Kanye West and Black Educators. With a rather large smile. Donald Trump is for Donald Trump. Why does Melania choose not to stay in one of the most prestigious pieces of real estate.  She would rather be in New York.

Your TV comment seems to mirror my statement about racism not being seen. In this case you acknowledge and vote with your dollars. However this is a personal choice not part of a larger boycott. I am hesitant to point this out. Since you spend your life promoting books. However Mel point is valid. Your argument is a weak counter. However you spend a Herculean amount of effort to educate the Folks. 

There are two streams to racism. Economic and Social. For owners its a way to keep Everyone in place. Just like every other ism.  There's an intersting article that looks at Slavery as work place harrasment. Using rape of Women and Men as a control technique. Apparently Alpha Black Men were anally raped publicly. 

The overseer is meant to feel superior to the slaves.Poor Whites were made overseers. Translation your better than them but not as good as us.

Pioneer believes his world is the world. You are starting to sound more like Pioneer. 

I have a neutral position. Which allows me more freedom of thought. Or freer thinking. It's impossible to have an open mind unless you can see your beliefs and assumptions. I am also observing the style of discussion. 

I saw Leslie Jones do stand up before? SNL. You can say whatever you want in comedy. If it's not funny then it's offensive. 

Whenever you feel like deleting a post, don't. It is revelatory. 

You have an entertaining  way of demanding things. And framing illogical statements as common sense. 

@Pioneer 

In this score you are blind and I have faith. So you are half wight.

Or it may not make sense.

Troy Everything is subjective. Otherwise you and Pioneer wouldn't disagree on points you both feel are clear or common sense. 

Think about it unless you perceive racism it doesn't exist for you. In your mind this is ridiculous. But there us an implication which i will overtly state. My perception does not change the global reality on my perception. And perception is reality. That's obvious to anyone that reading the post in this thread. Excluding your own. I have dropped a few bread crumbs. Cynique attempted to draw yiur attention to this with the simple statement. Del has made some good points. However I don't think this sparked any fresh inquiry along ybe lines of my inflammatory statements. The flame illuminated little. Two final statements. I could be overestimating may contribution to this argumemt. Whenever I agree with Pioneer I know I have missed something. 

@Cynique how could you possibly think I wouldn't be interested in this post. 

I find people irritating when they show me a side of myself. Arrogant know it alls,  that are mistaken and stubborn. I'll have more to say after watch the clip. Also if it's okay with you I'll have a look at your chart. I can post here or privately. 

Yeah even though we haven't met you seem familiar. 

Also i feel some type of cosmic connection with Mel. I have had the same experience thst she said i gave her. This has happened twice. Troy feels like a younger older brother. And pioneer is a former? Ideological enemy. 

Mel hits a three from the baseline. 

I but she is a product. And her currency or value is being debated. 

No it is not directed at you specifically. The conversation feels like a slave auction. 

So a woman has to be attractive. Is that the only state she can exhibit. 

Perhaps she should be Barbie. 

Are you purchasing her? Is she for sale or even rent. 

Anyone read Paul Beatty. What do you think of his work?

On 18/05/2017 at 11:21 AM, Mel Hopkins said:

This is one of those mindf-ck questions.  

Physically, I practice heterosexuality.  I'm not sure if it was something I decided or decided for me when I chose to procreate naturally. 

Since one of those biological functions is to reproduce, I probably decided I'd go after boys and it became a habit.  I like my life easy and that's probably on the soul level too so my drive to eliminate obstacles before they manifest is real. 

Spiritually, it doesn't matter because connection and intimacy is different on the spiritual plane.

That's one of my specialties. Its like i had the following idea. Let's say you went to a masked ball. And you met someone and fell die them. Then when you met you found they weren't the sex that you are attracted to normally. What would you do. Then lets say on your third meeting yiu found out they cross deessed on your second date. 

My not ageeing with you does not make me unaware if racism. Your statement is worthy of Pioneer. You are exporting your views to people that dont share them. And you wonder why they cant see the racism. Mel and Cynique don't see it. So in this context it doesn't exist to them. Which is something you can neither see nor accept.

Troy you may be missing my point. You are focused on the racial aspect. If you dont see or feel racism does it exist for you. It's  a very subtle point.  It's a variation on if a tree falls in the forest and noone hears it does it make a sound. The answer is no. A person needs to be conscious of the sound.

Substituting another Black person doesn't change the focus to something other than race. At least not a nthe example you have chosen.

What is fascinating is the entire discussion centers around image or mostly. She had become a symbol and has cease to be a person. What is being said is an externalisation of internal prejudices, opinions and beliefs. That are being discussed as though they could be objective truths. It's like a Slave Auction of Black Women. Along the Black Mail Female divide. She means whatever you believe she means. But don't think you are right. Since this is an intellectualised conversation about belief. I am indifferent to the picture. Or it doesn't have the same weight or implied meaning. 

I think it's fantastic. Make books come alive. A book review on TV isn't that a first? 

@Mel Hopkins

@Cynique

@Troy

Pioneer you are requesting assistance. That doesn't materially affect your life. 

Your analogy is manipulative. In that you are comparing yourself to a family in danger. And my not helping you is a moral lapse. I am not so easily used. No the burden of proof is on you to convince or persuade me to give you my time and "knowledge. "

So when someone has been disparaging and dismissive about what i do. Then feels it's my moral obligation to help then yes i want to know why. 

What's also interesting is that you request both proof and assistance. 

You are asking me for something, yet you won't say what your motivation is for asking. So I  have to assume that either you don't believe it is possible and you want me to prove my own delusion. Or you want to use it for personsal gain. Or like many exchanges with you it is your attempt to prove your dominance. 

You have an unwavering sense of commitment, obstinacy and self importance. However none of these points are capable of swaying me mentally , emotionally, morally, or logically. I am pretty certain you will not answer the question,  of your motivation or truthful reason for asking.