Pioneer1

The Constitution was designed BY Caucasian men FOR Caucasian men.
The rest of the federal, state, and local laws were designed for others.

EVERY municipality from the Federal down to the Local should do a complete re-evaluation and overhaul of ALL of their laws to see which ones line up with the U.S. Constitution and then get rid of the laws that don't.

For a person to be convicted of a crime, do their time, and let out with half of their Constitutional rights stripped away from them is a crime in and of itself.

The question is, is an ex-inmate STILL a citizen of the United States?

17 hours ago, Delano said:

Focusing on standards and substandards is fine for you, I am more interested in 6σ .

Lol....you're more interested in what??????

You still haven't explained HOW you would make rules without STANDARDS to go by.

Troy

My definition of freedom is NO rules, restrictions, or limitations.  Which is next to impossible when you are living with other people (society).

What we should all want is LIBERTY.

Meaning, a society with minimal restrictions and regulations.

Enough to maintain societal standards and protect us.

Standards are distinct from rules. If you think for a second you'll figure out why.

????
I already know this.

Why do you feel this statement makes Del dangerous?

Since Daniel made the statement I'll wait on HIS answer to your question; however I actually agree and believe Del's position of accepting rules over standards is concerning and potentially dangerous as well.
....though they may or may not be for the same reasons as Daniel's.

Troy

Just so those who are reading this don't get the WRONG message of what I'm saying, let me make it clear.............

In the majority of cases, AfroAmerican mothers both married and unmarried strongly LOVE and deeply CARE for their children.  

But I'm making 2 points:

1. Many if not most AfroAmerican children born since the late 60s were not PLANNED.  
They are a result of parents recklessly having sex without taking all the necessary precautions to prevent pregnancy.
How well they love and care for the children after they are born is irrelevant because they didn't INTEND for them to be conceived in the first place.

 

2. And of those children who ARE a result of mistaken conception.....a large percentage of the parents really DON'T care for them, despite what they say out of their mouths.
We KNOW many of the fathers don't care because they abandoned both the child and the mother and only help when the government FORCES them to (child support, ect....).
But many of the mothers don't really care either but because they are the mothers they are often "stuck" with the responsibility or try to pass it off to the grandmothers.

Like you said earlier, you and many men can't believe this and don't understand how a person can NOT help take care of a life they helped to bring in the world.
But just because YOU feel strongly obligated to do something....doesn't mean everyone shares the same moral obligations.


 

Otherwise, they'd have abortions ir out the kids up for adoption.

Again, yes many mothers DO love and care for their children, but keep in mind there are many reasons for this besides them actually "caring" for their child.......

1. Many mothers don't HAVE to put their children  up for adoption because the living conditions are so dire that the STATE ends up taking them away anyway and putting them in the "system" where many end up suffering more abuse.

2. Many mothers don't have access to abortion clinics to have the procedure done.

3. Many mothers are in a state of RELIGIOUS CONFUSION.
Meaning, THEY will kill someone over an argument, will suck every dang-a-lang in town, and will cuss and shoot dope every night like it's going out of style....but ALL OF A SUDDEN get "holy" when it comes to abortion and declare it "murder" and refuse to abort the life they have absolutely NO intention of taking care of when it is born.

Confused as hell with their morals.

We see RELIGIOUS CONFUSION a lot with AfroAmericans.
Like Harry points out constantly, the same people who go to church every Sunday and praise Jesus will often shoot someone over $5 and cheat on their wife with every woman in the neighborhood.
 

 "Hurry up, my wife'll be home in a minute!!"

17 hours ago, Guest FAS said:

The article is ridiculous. We know a lot about the Maroons of Florida. They were called the Black Seminoles. Fighting shoulder to shoulder with their Red Seminole allies, they defeated the U.S. Army/cavalry and won their freedom on the battlefield in the 2nd Seminole War, or as General Jessup (the general who hoisted the white flag of surrender) and white Floridians of the time called it, the Negro War. So now you know. They lied about Viet Nam being the first defeat for the U.S. , as almost 150 years previous, Maroons (those who had never been enslaved) and runaway slaves collectively called the Black Seminoles, kicked their butts. And it wasn't the first defeat the U.S. suffered at the hands of the Maroons/Black Seminoles, either. They fought the U.S. Navy about 200 years ago, and won that one, too.

Hey Sara!

I knew that was you.....lol.

Daniel

can you fly without the aid of a machine? Can you go back in time? All of life has boundaries. 

I agree, and that's my point.

Free means NO limits or restrictions.
Who can say that?

Which is why I said nobody who lives in this society is truly free.

Your argument once again demonstrates your perfectionist/utopian views. They are what drive people insane and ruin the lives of millions.

Guy you have a VERY active imagination if you can draw all of those conclusions from what I just said above....lol.

I said no one in this society is actually free.

How in the WORLD you managed go get:

"Look! 
He's trying to build Wakanda and run all of the white folks insane!!!"

.....from that.
Is beyond my understanding.
 

Daniel

You just illustrated the problem of the bureaucratic state. 

Absolutely.

What people are calling systemic racism is really not attitudinal or cultural it lies in the residual regulations that need to be pruned from all levels of government.

Ok, stop....stop.....
I was agreeing with you for a minute but then you had to get "funny style".

Systemic racism is REAL.
Excessive regulation in government is a common TACTIC used to maintain it.  Religion, education, and other institutions use similar methods to maintain it also.

I've said before that the Constitution was written primarily FOR Caucasian men and the rest of the law written for everybody else.

 This is why the principal of removing two or more regulation for each new one is an important process in multiple ways.

I actually agree.
Infact, I think it should go further than that and EVERY municipality from the Federal down to the Local should do a complete re-evaluation and overhaul of ALL of their laws to see which ones line up with the U.S. Constitution and then get rid of the laws that don't.

For a person to be convicted of a crime, do their time, and let out with half of their Constitutional rights stripped away from them is a crime in and of itself.
 

Hell, if someone is SO bad that when they get out of prison you don't think they should be able to vote, own a gun, or get a job....then why the hell did you let them out in the first place???

Either he's PAID his debt or he hasn't.
 

7 hours ago, Delano said:

 

Rules  yes, standards are of  little interest to me.

 

But how would the RULES be determined without adequate standards?

Troy

Human beings don't KNOW the future but with proper wisdom and observance you can PREDICT a lot of it.

It's one thing for  a stable young man and woman who don't have too much money but both of them have decent paying jobs and have a nice home already, to try to have a child even though they aren't sure what the future may hold but love eachother and are willing to take that chance.
I can understand that.

But damn man.....lol.
You're a 17 year old girl, no father, you're living with your mother who's a drug addict and you've slept with so many dudes you aren't even sure who the father IS let alone whether or not he'll help raise the child.
There is NO WAY you should be having children....not even taking that chance!

Let's not use the unpredictability of life as an excuse NOT to properly prepare for it and behave recklessly.

It always boggled my mind why so many guys have children by so many women and don't live with any of their kids. Why do so many women have kids by multiple men who, based upon their behavior, have demonstrated they have no problem not being in their children's lives. Some men/women seemingly have no problem with this while others find it unconscionable.
 

Surely women knowingly having kids by men they know will not raise of them are aware their lives will be much harder. Is it because they know no ither way?

I can adequately answer the question with three simple words:  THEY DON'T CARE.

Like I said in another thread, many of our people should ADMIT that they don't care...that would make many things a lot easier and save us a lot of time and head scratching.

If they don't care if they get pregnant or get a disease or jacked up by a worthless crazy ass boyfriend....how much do you think they'd care about raising the child they had with him?

I don't believe "criminality" is passed along in the genes because I believe what is and isn't a crime varies from society to society.
But there IS evidence that intelligence and emotional stability may have a genetic component to it.  Which makes you wonder what type of disaster some of these crazy ass brothers are making in the hood sowing their wild oats all over the place.
 

Troy

Though some of us are more free than others.

There aren't "degrees" to freedom.
Either you're free or you're not.

It's like pointing to a dismembered corpse and proclaiming it "deader" than average....LOL.

No one who lives in a society is truly "free".

People telling me who i can marry, what my gender is, what my sexual expression must look like, are trying to take my freedom.

Well that would be your Government trying to do that.
You know....
The same people who issued you your official documents like BIRTH CERTIFICATES, PASSPORTS, and DRIVER'S LICENSES.
 

Daniel

It’s illegal 

And my comment is not a slight of America. Gun Ownership is our constitutional right. I just need to move to another state for a gun 

Illegal????????

Are you F#@&ING SERIOUS?

All of the people I know who do Lyft and Uber on the side and NOT ONE of them mentioned this to me until you did!

I'm going to have to have a talk with a few of my partners.....unless they just don't obey the rules and pack anyway, lol.

That has to be one of the CRAZIEST policies I've heard!

That pretty much puts a bull's eye on the backs of the drivers because criminals KNOW they aren't going to have any powerful weapon to fend them off.
I know you guys don't use cash but it still sets you up for other types of robberies and assaults.

I'd obey the LAW if they said don't carry but I wouldn't give two damns what UBER or LYFT told me to do!

Them Germans and British (I guess that's where those services are located) could kiss my  ass trying to tell ME how to protect myself way over here in America....lol.
Some spoiled kids sitting behind a computer trying to tell drivers NOT to protect themselves????
Maaaaann............
 

Troy

Sure a lot of children are born into sub optimal conditions. What do you propse we do about it?

It's hard to say because everone has different moral values and beliefs about abortion and other forms of birth control.

I support birth control including abortion for those who wish to do so.  Although it is killing a life, if it happens BEFORE the child is born I don't see it as murder.  I believe if The SUPREME BEING intends on a child to be born then you won't be able to abort it anyway.

I say that to say that in MY opinion you shouldn't bring children into the world unless you KNOW (as best you can as a human) that you can PROPERLY support them and raise them.  If you don't think you can do that you shouldn't take the chance OR behave in a reckless way that will allow them to be born unintendedly then EXPECT "Jesus" to provide for them.

If you want to have sex with a lot of women....do that.
If you want to have sex with a lot of men....do that.
I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you aren't forcing yourself on anyone.
Just don't be reckless and careless spreading diseases and making a lot of children that neither of you can or even want to take care of.

But when it comes to what is best for a successful AfroAmerican community I personally prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY.

Meaning I would rather have 5 million very smart properly raised AfroAmericans making progress on this planet,  than 50 million poorly raised ignorant criminals and fools running around terrorizing themselves and the rest of the nation.

I like to point to the Jews as an example of quality over quantity......
They make up only a FRACTION of the population that AfroAmericans do in this nation, but have considerably more power and success. 
I'm not 100% sure why, but based on my personal observations much of it is due to them focusing more on having a limited number of children within a marriage structure and then improving the QUALITY of those limited amount of children and making sure they grow up well educated and with enough wealth and connections for a successful life.....as opposed to just having child after child after child by whoever without a plan to support themselves OR their children.
 

Troy

Lol....
Since when did ANYONE enjoy "freedom" and get to make up their own rules in the United States?

Go to your bank without ID and use your "freedom" to assume any identity you want and see if you will be able to access your account.

"My name is H. Ross Perot,
and I want to close out my account!"

Use your "freedom" to make up any type of name and report any amount of income to the IRS.....and see where your "freedom" gets you.

There ARE DEFINATE  rules and guidelines in this society concerning identity....they just aren't being made by YOU, lol.  
They are being made by the White Supremacists.

They sell you all of this JIVE about how your free to do this and call yourself that but when it comes to IMPORTANT matters like money and power you don't have the "freedom" you thought you did.

If the White Supremacists decide you're a male, you can call yourself "trans" all you want but they will put down MALE on your report and you won't be able to argue it away.
The rules exist, YOU just don't make them nor will they be respected.  You have to follow THEIR rules and guidelines and play the game the way they TELL you to.
 

Daniel

what did I say bad about America?

You implied that America was so dangerous that you need a gun to survive in it.

I don’t even own a gun so I don’t know what he is talking about.

I do have an NRA membership, it doesn’t shoot bullets.

There are a lot of safe places all over America in general....but I don't understand how a person can drive Uber/Lyft/Cab in the New York area and NOT have a gun.
Especially the way Conservatives have been ranting and raving about how much crime and violence is out of control now a days.

It's a shame that so many AfroAmerican men have abandoned their children over the years that now a days if one just sticks around the house and watch their children grow up, then they are considered a "good father".
There's more to being a "good father" than just hanging around making sure your children eat and don't get hit by a car.
 

It's hard for Black men to be GOOD fathers in this society because too many are ignorant and powerless.

Although the vast majority have the physical ability (achieve an erection and ejaculate sperm) to become a father,  for a lot of brothers it ENDS right there.

1) Being able to choose the RIGHT woman to have children with
2) Being able to protect and provide the basic necessities for that woman and child
3) Having enough knowledge to earn a good living for yourself and family
4) Having the power to keep what you earn and pass it along to your offspring

....these are just SOME of the basic requirements every man should have established before bringing a life into this world.

If we were to tell the truth, a lot of Black men and women would have to admit that their children were MISTAKES.**
They didn't intend to have them.
They were having sex and having fun and someone got reckless or for whatever reason the birth control didn't equipment didn't work as it should and the woman ended up pregnant with a child neither really wanted....but kept.
This happens too often.

**  No human being who is allowed to be born is a mistake.  They were brought into this reality on purpose by The Divine for reasons both known and unknown.  However because the parents didn't intend for them to be born it was a mistake as far as THEY are concerned.

Troy

Whatever the society says it about, which is different based when and where. 

What if the society you're dealing with is grossly ignorant and uneducated?

Should we follow the rules of an ignorant and uneducated populous?

I'm not sure if you appreciate the consequences of accepting whatever identity someone calls themselves.

Unless you feel comfortable with everyone running around making up their OWN rules based on how they feel or what they THINK they know.....there MUST be rules and standards.
 

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

A typo Mystery System of Kemit.

OK, thanks for clarifying.....

The so-called "Mystery" systems of Kemet was just that.....a mystery, lol.

The  Kemites KNEW that the Caucasians were coming to invade their land because it was already predicted that they would do so.  So they hid their TRUE knowledge and science to protect it and introduced a FALSE knowledge of symbols and allegories to the Caucasian invaders.

This where much of Freemasonry comes from.

Caucasians have only a FRACTION (less than 10%) of the TRUE knowledge that the ancient Africans had.  
Just enough for them to have LIMITED power.

If they were allowed to have more ...they would be ruling much more effectively than they already are.

This is what it means when you read about Adam and Eve eating A PIECE of fruit from the Tree of Knowledge and being driven out of the Garden BEFORE they could eat from the Tree of Life.

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

What white people did the Mysterious System support?

 
What exactly is the "Mysterious System"?

4 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

I used the language of the Author Tatum.

Lol, I have no idea what that means.
You may have to help me out in that one and explain it a little more.

Your overall philosophy is one for the development of a Black only Utopia. It will mean the subjugation and or elimination of those who don’t fit the profile.

Nothing I've said supports EITHER one of those 2 assumptions.

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

You would end up killing more of the people you say you want to help. You just disinherited Alexander Dumas and Alexander Pushkin with your erroneous perspective.

 

What does what we're talking about have to do with death and "killing" or even helping?

Daniel

I am religious. It provides structure and community.

Religion provides "structure" by conditioning you to accept your role as a subservient slave in the system of White Supremacy.

Just understand that the same Caucasians who GAVE you your religion don't truly believe in it themselves.

The same white men seen wearing a suit and cradling the bible as they attend church on Sundays are the SAME white men who were grabbing their guns and demanding war and bloodshed against the Arabs on 9/11.

"Praise the laaard and pass the ammunition!"
 

Daniel

 both of you seem to want to stay trapped in the European paradigm of race. Someone said when we were in Africa we didn’t think of ourselves as Black, we just were us. 

That's because we didn't have to.
For the most part there were no other races around for us to compete with.

But now that we're in a NEW environment we must function in it accordingly.

Those who fail to properly ADJUST to their new environment often end up SUCCUMBING to it.

It’s about control. It has nothing to do with with reality. That’s why they changed the Census and implemented the 1 drop rule. 

I noticed you say THEY changed the Census and racial rules.  
You didn't say WE changed it....you said THEY changed it.

Despite saying the government is of "the people"....it sounds to me like you are attributing the power and authority to define and redefine the rules to some other people other than yourself, lol.
 

Actually we have more Blacks who are claiming to be white than whites claiming to be Black. Carol Channing comes to mind. 

Carol Channing was NOT Black.

Based on what I've read of her she had an AfroAmerican grandparent.

I suppose she could  be called a "quadroon".
I wouldn't even consider her "mixed race".

As far as I'm concerned she's a White woman with a Black grand parent.
 

I'm actually glad more spotlight is being given on the term "bisexual"....which really should be called "biophile" to be more accurate.

Daniel

When Andrew Gillum was arrested after losing the Florida Governor race, my first thought wasn’t “Oh no another Marion Berry”. My thoughts directly went to “Hmmm I wonder if he was swinging with Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo.” 

I remember this incident......

He was obviously set up in some sort of Republican operative "sting" to ruin his reputation and compromise if not destroy his future political career.

The REAL reason he's going through all of this is right now is because he's powerless.
He FORFEITED his power by conceding the election and refusing to FIGHT BACK for the position of Governor in Florida.  He just sat back and ALLOWED that right-wing racist DeSantis assume the office after he clearly lied and cheated during the election.  The same with Stacey Abrams.
But back to the topic............

As I remember of what was reported, he was found naked and unconscious on the floor and their just HAPPENED to be a bunch of cameras there to take his picture and splatter it all over the media????
Come on, it was a set up!

He was obviously "drugged" and the rest of the events were designed to humiliate him.

I remember when young black men started coming home with shoelaces untied and and pants sagging down. Are we witnessing the final stages of destruction of the traditional sexual roles as a new sexualization revolution is taking place before our eyes? What impact will it have on future generations? 

I'm inclined to agree with your observations but I must ask.....
 

Lol....I thought you didn't believe in "judging" people?
I thought you were going to leave it all in the "hands of Jesus".

Remember that, Coggins?
 

I couldn't get you to utter two words of condemnation over the freakish and non-sensical behavior of Niecy Nash marrying another woman.... but when it comes to criticizing AfroAmerican men you'll go all in.

It's JUST LIKE I said on the other thread, the only time so-called "Conservative" Blacks feel comfortable criticizing homosexuality or bad behavior is when they criticize BLACK MEN.  That's it.  When it comes to AfroAmerican women or Caucasians....they have been trained to keep their mouths shut and ignore it.

Although he is correct in his pronouncements on proper sexual behavior. When you see sexual, as opposed to affection, between single sex organisms it’s a deviation from the normal. 

Actually, despite my statements on homosexuality......you'd be surprised at my beliefs on proper sexual behavior.

I see homosexuality is abnormal in the true sense of the word...."not the norm".  
But not necessarily immoral anymore.

Because I'm no longer religious I don't categorize sexual orientation as proper and non-proper.

Infact, I actually DO see a valid role for homosexuality and bi-sexuality as I BELIEVE (not absolutely sure) that it occurs in nature to a certain degree.  Just not as much as is happening TODAY and in THIS society.

I BELIEVE (again...don't know for sure) that under natural and normal circumstances less than 10% of the population would actually fall into these deviant sexual orientations.    When you read about the condemnation of homosexuality in the Bible you have to understand the context those laws were given in and WHO they were given to.

They were being given to the wild Caucasians in the cave who were engaging in all types of sexually deviant behavior that was contrary to nation building.

 

I can go into greater detail about the deviant sexual practices of the cave man but I'll leave it right here......

My criticizm of homosexuality and transgenderism is more about their roles in the destabilization of the Black family and  planned sabatoge of the AfroAmerican than morality.

Troy

This is part of my point, her inappropriate reaction was a result of STRESS either directly or indirectly incurred from the racism she has experienced in her life, not JUST her treatment by the attendant on the plane.
And that stress should and MUST be dealt with properly.
 

The problem is when we as AfroAmericans don't appropriately address problems when they arise then often times this stress builds up and is then released in unhealthy and unproductive ways like THIS woman.

She was pretty much "putting on a show".

White guys snap regularly, get guns, a try to kill everybody. Has a Black ever did that?

On a micro level it happens in the hood on a daily basis.  Look at the thousands of AfroAmericans who have shot eachother over the past 50 years or so over bullshit reasons like stepping on your shoes, giving you a mean look, or some other perceived slight.

This video is sad.
But as hard as it is for some to watch *   it's a good example of how living under racism and not knowing what to do about it causes them to behave in irrational and humiliating ways.  Where do I start.........

I don't know what happened before the video, but if we were to judge things simply by what was captured on the video in my opinion the sister STARTED OFF in the right!   She was actually PUSHED by the flight attendant and had a right to stand up for herself and check that attendant for her rudeness!

Justice was initially on HER side!
 

But as is often the case, she let her EMOTIONS override her logic and got so caught up in her anger and frustration.....cheered on by other AfroAmerians who served as an audience for her tantrum....she began snapping at everyone in the vicinity and rambling on in an emotional rant that quickly took the focus OFF of the wrongdoing by the attendant and put it squarely on her inappropriate behavior.

Since I don't want to sound like I'm ranting ** let me give a quick rundown....

As I said, initially it was the FLIGHT ATTENDANT who was wrong for pushing her.

But what specifically did SHE do wrong?

-She kept calling the flight attendant a product of "white privilege" even though that attendant didn't look "white" to me, but East Asian.  

-She correctly told the Caucasian lady sitting down in front of her to stay out of it and mind her own business but she also kept telling her to "sit down" when she was already seated....making her statement look silly in the eyes of logical thinking people

 -She kept cussing and using the word "muthafucka" which although isn't a sin -  doesn't look very civil to most of the public who have children and especially when being said by a woman.  It may be sexist, but it is what it is...

-She kept saying she was a "queen" further making herself look like a fool. 

I understand where it comes from and how it's colloquial to refer to our sisters as "queens"....but not when you're cussing and making a fool of yourself.
 

-She kept name calling  and called people  "bitch", which again puts HER on the wrong side now.

-She brought up Jacob and Esau which had NOTHING to do with the situation she was in

-She brought up Jesus coming back which had NOTHING to do with the situations she was in

-She said Corona had something to do with Divine punishment...something she has no knowledge of to say and again had NOTHING to do with the situation she was in

-She kept telling Caucasians that they aren't able to reproduce.....which isn't true because they're still having babies and again had NOTHING to do with the situation she was in

-She kept saying racist things to Caucasians when you don't hear any of them saying them to her. 
There were plenty of Caucasians on that plane and no doubt SOME of them were racist as hell, but it's funny how NONE of them said anything racist to her....they had enough sense not to.
It shows you how smart and united THEY are and how foolish SHE is.
 

Again.....it may sound sexist but while the other women were quiet and less aggressive, SHE was clearly dominant, confrontational and vulgar.  
Even if a woman is in the right  few men will agree with her or come to her rescue if her DEMEANOR is aggressive and masculine, because it's offensive and just doesn't look right on a woman.
 

It's like a man who walks down the street with a jar full of piss and shit hanging from his neck.  
If someone comes up and slaps him for no reason...yes they were wrong for it.....but the public isn't likely to stand up for him because his behavior is so disturbing and disgusting that people are too busy focusing on IT than on the actual wrong that was done to him.


Many of our people (AfroAmericans) have deep emotional problems from generations of injustices that they are STILL victims of, and that is bad enough;  but when you mix those problem with IGNORANCE ***  and then aggravate that mixture with an encounter with racism  you're asking for a disaster.
 

That's all they need to set them off to make a public spectacle of themselves!
And instead of looking like the victim that they are, they end up looking like FOOLS.

The only saving thing about this video was that it was a BLACK law enforcement officer acting as a sign of authority who came in and restored order and peace in the situation.****

*  Unless you don't mind when other AfroAmericans make fools of themselves in public because YOU don't believe there is a connection between how THEY are perceived and how YOU are perceived also. In that case, you don't care how other AfroAmericans look or are portrayed.  

**I can go on and on but I've been told (by certain people....Daniel) that I use too many words and post too much information to get my points across....lol.
But as I've mentioned before concerning the intellectual decline of some of our people.... I have to wonder is it that I talk too much, or is it that a lot of our people don't have the  intellectual energy to maintain a solid conversation?  You go to some Caucasian message boards and you'll see Caucasians exchange paragraph after paragraph, post after post, and page after page arguing and debating and discussing ONE POINT.  Pages and pages of thoughts and ideas exchanged.  But go on an AfroAmerican  facebook page or website and click on a thread about police brutality or some other important issue in our community that we all SHOULD be interested in and talking about  and you only see 3 or 4 responses.  And half of THEM are totally unrelated to the thread.   For a lot of our people, the only time they feel motivate to respond or exchange is when it comes to something negative like insulting someone or threatening them or during  a feud/beef.  But having an intelligent back-n-forth debate or dialog is next to impossible because their brains don't seem to be producing enough information on the topic for them to convey.   
Go up to a dog or cat and TRY having an intelligent discussion with it over the current political season.  See the response you get from them?    That'll be the same response you get from a lot of our people today because their brains have been dulled to the point that they truly have nothing to say because the thoughts aren't being produced in their brains.
 

*** Ignorance in the form of poor education by public school systems as well as religious indoctrination  that cause too many of our people to believe in and fight over historical innacuracies and lies  
 

**** But again, if you don't believe the actions of SOME AfroAmericans have any bearing on the perception and image of our people COLLECTIVELY then it doesn't matter what color the officer was.