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That statement defies credulity as you consistently reject the findings of the scientific community, on race, medicine, genetics, climate change, geology, etc... The statement @Energy made, "European colonisation saved us from many of the terrible practices we the natives were practising, which included Slavery, Cannibalism and Human Sacrifice." is a classic racist troll talking point. It is rather odd he would write that. Are trolls becoming that much more sophisticated? Actually once Energy wrote the crap about European colonists "saving," Africans, the gloves need to come off. No one who says something like that deserves any mercy -- for real!

I'm sure there are fewer discussion forums today and those that remain are not as vibrant as they once were. I agree with what you wrote in point #1, but the reality is that most people who post on social media do so in relative obscurity. The promise of potentially going viral is a strong pull -- even a couple of hundred likes on a post will encourage many people to continue posting to get the attention. Social media even goes so far as to time when people see their likes to encourage further engagement. For this reason social media platforms are a completely different things than a discussion forums. I don't think people are dumber. I do think Facebook has have jacked into the minds of people addicting them to their devices in ways we do not completely understand. We do know that suicide, drug addiction, obesity, depression are all on the rise -- despite all the technological advances. Watching TicTok videos provides an escape, that a discussion forum can not provide -- because to enjoy a good discussion forum -- even lurking -- requires effort. More people watch TV and scroll through Instagram than read books. Reading books and participating in a discussion forum requires work; you can't participate vicariously. People discount the impact of the "feed,." the "information" that is pushed to you on social. Cynique and I debated this idea -- she discounted it, because she felt it did not effect her, but she was a senior citizen when social media emerged. The adults in their late 30's never really knew a world without social media, and I can see the impact in them -- increased rates of suicide, drug addiction, obesity, depression... etc. The pandemic has exacerbated this situation. One would have though, that with more people at home, discussion forum participation would have risen, during this pandemic. But the media only pays attention to the handful of the biggest social media platforms. I know why white media ignores Black platforms, but why does Black media ignore Black discussion forums. Why do so called "woke" Black people give all of their energy to white owned platforms -- who have demonstrated zero desire to truly serve Black people? The draw of social media is powerful. Not only does it not serve us, it is destructive to our society. As always the Black community suffered more than the society as whole.

White police officers who work in white communities are friends of white people. This young white girl told me a story about how she and her friends broke into the country club was hanging out in the pool drinking and getting high when the police came by and drove them all home with a warning. I did not say this to young white girl, because she was just innocently relating a story from her youth, but God knows if they would’ve come upon young Black boys doing exactly the same thing those niggers would’ve been put under the jail and been tuned up real good on the way to the station. White Cops patrolling black neighborhoods are on high alert and in fear. They have itchy trigger fingers — and those are the good cops. We all knew growing up but there were a lot of crooked cops in our neighborhood. You know the ones that would rob drug dealers, plant drugs on innocent kids, or give out tickets to hard working people, who can’t afford to pay them for some bullshit, which results in a warrant and they end up in jail. White people, in white neighborhoods, with white cops simply can’t understand why inner-city Black youth are like “fuck the police.”

...hummm where have I’ve seen that before? 😉 That sounds like racist troll crap to me. The younger generation and I suspect energy is younger than both you and I. The younger generation is far more sensitive and easily “triggered.” We used to call men like this “pussies,” but that would not be politically correct today. It is very annoying in the real world and part of the reason social media, in general, is so powerful because one can easily exclude people, thoughts, and ideas that conflict with your worldview — even if they are factual. You know I have no problem with someone who gets upset with the conflicting idea and runs away, but I say let’s give newbies, who demonstrate a willingness to engage, some space before you tear them apart — at least two posts 🙂

There are a variety of reasons but one has to do with the nature of the conversations. I was on Lipstick Alley a few moments ago reading a comment posted in a thread I'm following. One of the trending conversation is shown below. The post tickled me because it was so absurdly shallow. There was a time which I was guaranteed to get a laugh visiting these forums, but this was years ago now. I'm not saying forums must post silly shit, like the comment below, to garner participation, but fun has to be mixed in with the seriousness. But alas you need a critical mass of participants in order to generate the humor ---- I'm attracted to a man, but he drives a pickup truck. There's a guy at the gym that I have a bit of a crush on. He's tall, muscular, polite, quiet and always in the zone. I've seen him look at me slyly when he thinks I don't know, and he always manages to lift near me. Well I broke the ice today by asking him about an exercise he was doing. He explained it to me and told me I should try it out and let him know how I like it. He was very sweet and smiled a lot. We both went back to our workouts, and as he was leaving he smiled and waved goodbye to me. Then he went outside. And got in his pickup truck Why does this bother me so much? Aside from the fact that pickups are big and ugly as sin, I feel like only certain "types" of men drive those. It doesn't have balls hanging off the back, or stupidass bumper stickers, just a plain, big black pickup truck. But idk. And before y'all ask: yes he is white.

Again we know you Energy does not. So that will certainly effect his reaction. @Stefan and @Kareem are distant memories I don't even recall their styles of perspective and longer. I await the rest of your response especially your assessment of the results of your conversation with @Energy

Geno, I do not know the stats, but I would expect for more white people to be killed by police than Black people. White people substantially outnumber Black people numerically. The issue is the situations in which Black people are killed. White folks can commit mass murder and be apprehended alive; while Black people are killed by police while sleeping in their beds and otherwise commenting no crime or very petty ones. Get it?

Pioneer, the need for you to post this disclaimer tells me that that you felt it was necessary, but more importantly that the perception that @Energy was run off the forum by you is plausible. Now I could see you challenging @Delano or me in that fashion, but we have seen your antics for years, know what to expect, and are not gonna take it personally. However, a newbie is less likely to tolerate it -- not out the gate. So the comment, "I am out of here." was not surprising at all. Indeed, I'm surprised it did not happen earlier. I did not read the exchange deeply, but I thought Jesus the Christ was Black and that the people who wrote the original Bible were Black too. We know the versions of the bible read today were written by white folks most notably the KJV. Was Energy completely wrong about that? As far has the pronunciation of words why challenge a native speaker, who has studied the language? But we know you have no problem challenge people who demonstrably know more about a given subject -- especially scientists. Was anyone (including you Pioneer) happy with the exchange, and more importantly, the outcome of this exchange?

@Pioneer1 this is a perfectly valid and simple question which you have failed to directly answer. It is very similar to the one I posed to you about the existence of racism prior to race based slave trade. Also, you should check out the comments on the video you posted one commenter made a point of critiquing the speak on how they were pronouncing the names of people. Afrika Diaspora Teacher 3 months ago "Learn the proper pronunciations and that could make your research very authentic. Names have meanings so when you butcher them, they lose their meaning. Respectfully call people and places by their proper name and pronunciations. There's no one called Togbui Ewenya. The closest pronunciation is Vwhenya. The Evwheh people did not get their name from Togbui Vwhenya, the Evwheh got their name rather from the God of Thunder and Lightening called YEVWHEH." Now I don't know who is right, but the video does not prove anything. Indeed if you consider your source, some guy in a tee shirt in his foyer. Who is he what are his credentials? You give him less credit than someone who has written multiple books on the subject. I'm not saying everything in a book is tru For a new comer I have to admit @Energy is living up to his name -- he has demonstrated a energy and patience to go toe-to-toe with Pioneer. It would be interesting to read what @Chevdove would have to say on this subject.

Thanks @Maurice I noticed this too. Libro has made the book available to booksellers at no cost. I have not started listening yet, but will do so on my next road trip or airplane ride.

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This is the same reasoning white people use to explain why they won’t take the covid vaccination. They freely admit ignorance about the science but then go on to say they will wait until they accumulate evidence and proof that the vaccine the safe before they take it. It is too difficult to explain to someone who reasons this way why the reasoning is faulty. Further, You believe science is the tool of white racism so any conclusions drawn by science is suspect to you. This is no different than people who reject the Covid vaccination because they believe it is liberal propaganda designed to chip away at our rights and liberty.

There are people who believe that humanity is 6000 years old right now. There are also people who believe that Homo sapiens emerged about 200,000 years ago. One is based upon a literal interpretation of a specific religion (not even one that the majority of people practice) and the other is based upon science. Neither of these beliefs are owned and solely associated with caucasians. You give white people way too much credit. There are plenty of black scientists, some of home you can find profiled here on AALBC, who can Tell you that black people were not on the planet earth before the birth of the entire universe. Perhaps this is possible in some alternative reality, a different space-time continuum, or parallel universe of some sort ... but any case these would be unobservable by us.

@Pioneer1! Come on man “billions” would be absurd, but trillions of years is beyond crazy. Why the hyperbole?

Soooo you are saying caucasians invaded India, thousands of years ago, and established a race based (racist)?religion called Hinduism?

Again you can make anything about what you race. “To a bit with a hammer all the world is a nail.” Could It be be considered them savages because of their actual behavior and not the complexity of the skin? Where did you read about this “race” based religious system?

Come on man you need examples of bad people? Andrew Jackson: bad, J Edgar Hoover: Bad, every slave master : Bad (including Thomas Jefferson).

So @Chevdove, you would prefer for you and your children to live in 1821 rather than 2021? Do I understand you correctly?

Racism, colorism, whatever you wanna call it this artificial construct recently created to justify Race-based slavery. All the other stuff you are super imposing your own understanding of race onto other cultures.

.... so why did race only become an issue In the last few hundred years a mere fraction of a second in the amount of time humans walked the planet

I’ve never post it because it’s a matter of faith and as such it a pointless question. I figured I’d ask you since you said you were being treated special by the supreme being. Obviously people can be in church Worshiping and get blown up or a gunman comes in and start wasting everyone in sight. Meanwhile, heathens atheists and all types of ne’er-do-wells go through life without anything particularly bad happening to them. Indeed some become President of the United States. So why were you and Donald Trump treated so well by the supreme being?

Yes, @Nah'Sun. Why @Pioneer1 did you seem him on a Facebook site?

@Pioneer1 I can't Bruh ... I can't listen to this video. It is an hour and 15 minutes about an apparently nutty dude I never heard of more than 15 minutes ago. I did however listen to the first 5 minutes which was mostly filled with pleas to follow her and like her on various social media platforms (you already know that ain't happenin'). I did discover in the first 5 that I HAVE heard of little Nas X. I familiar with the country tune he made -- seemed like a fairly innocuous tune, but as the "beautiful sista" said I did not listen to the lyrics, but I do know the song was very popular -- it must be if I heard of it 🙂 At any rate, did she repeat your points of say anything that I really should care about? If so, give me the time stamp or summarize please. No that is simply not true, most of the world planet lives in it's major urban centers. Man even here, one out of three people who live in the United States lives in New York City. Besides do you think the people who actually live in tribal communities are studying Little Nasty X? The Chinese people who run major firm are not nearly as provincial as you seem to think they are. People do denegerate stuff because it brings them attention and makes them money. I just now went Google Youtube and did a search on "such my dick" this video came right up... Which Youtube wants you to watch on their platform for obvious reasons (what they say below is bullshit).

il really sorry to read that. However for the purposes of my thought experiment death is not a choice. Who is doing the premeditation in this case?

Ok, how far does it go back? Is it hundreds of years as I say or thousands of years as @Pioneer1 says?