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this is simply historically, inaccurate, white people and Black people and Asian people were trading with each other long before the concept of race was invented. there are 1 million ways to group people we can do it on religion, geography, family, ethnicity whatever. Why the preoccupation with lumping people into different categories anyway? Do you (anybody) believe that racial differences give rise to differences and characteristics like in intelligence? Who says Black people are on the lowest rung on the social ladder? Where does that come from?

@Milton would this be in the Sword and Soul genre. I'm actually working on getting a Sword and Soul BISAC code. Would you use it and help promote its use if I were able to get it through?

Yeah, but they are the ones who created the racial categories that you hold onto so tightly. You reject some of the absurdity but accept parts of it. These are just your ideas and have nothing to do with race. right, but we support this buy into their scheme by continuing to buy into the unfounded idea.

I have nothing to add @Pioneer1

Dude the faulty concept of "race" is what has created the confusion. No it won't. People will always find a reason to justify their evil. Taking "race" out of the mix will eliminate that justification from their bag of tricks. Generations of people would have lived and died without ever believing that they were inferior (or superior) because of their so-called race.

Hey @harry brown here is a link to some of the Juneteenth books I have on AALBC: https://aalbc.com/books/category.php?name=Juneteenth

I’m surprised no one did it before you did then.

Funny I have used AI pretty much every day for the past year and it never occurred to me to ask it do anything like that 🙂 There are other tools that you can use that would use MTG in the manner you described, but you might have to spend some money to do it.

You've already let us know you reject science. The dictonary's definition obviously is not a scientific reference. It is curious you never reference any scientific sources for a definition of race.

Here you go again dodging questions @Pioneer1 The fact of the matter is that you would consider Homer a white man. The Federal government considered him a Black man. The ruling of the SCOTUS is not more irrational than yours.

YES! The principle of the one drop rule is based upon the same flawed reasoning that you are anyone else including white racists would apply.

@Pioneer1, is Homer Plessy a white or Black man?

OK since you reject the fact: The science has already shown that race as a result of genetics do not exist.... We can't have a normal conversation on the subject, as on this subject, you are estranged from reality.

That poor child 🙂 Well maybe times have changed, and kids are no longer clowned for having a jacked-up hair cut

Note the use of the words "perceived to share" and "the idea that people can be divided" Obviously the "idea" of race exists. The point is that just that and idea without basis in science. As a result, it is subject to human whim.

My God! If I were not already bald I'd be pulling my hair out now. It was a question? Which one if any of these statements do you disagree with; The science has already shown that race as a result of genetics do not exist.... Race as a result of a social construct does exist..... In the study you provided they are accepting using and dealing with race as a social construct... The study you link provided proof that the disparities in health outcome are a result of Access to treatment intervention tools and insurance etc.....not biology but racism

Because of rules like the "one drop" rule. We previously discussed Homer Plessy who had one African great-grand parent the other 8 were white. You would say he was white because of his phenotype. However he was booted out of the white card like any other negro. The case went to the Supreme Court who upheld the law that kept Homer out of the white car.

I know. What I was trying to say about "mainstream" media is fu*k dem. They generally don't cover us and when they do they get it wrong. We need to rely on out publications more. I much rather read what the Nation has to say about themselves than what "mainstream media" has to say about them. Does that make sense? Really? I presume this is stuff that is promulgated on more social media. If that is the case, I would be very careful extrapolating that to the general population of young people. The BS you see of social media is simply not representative of the general population. What the hell?! See this is one of those situations where a boy needs his father. A Black man would NEVER consider taking his Black some to a white barber. LOL! Well, your niece was on the marl with that one 'cause you are clearly racist 🧐

There were two. You could have easily find them as I asked multiple times. Here is the most recently asked question: Period. End of story. 'Nuff said. @Pioneer1 what specifically in the quoted statement you disagree with?

Evidence of what Frankster?

@Pioneer1 Just two glasses of wine nothing that would impair me 🙂 There is actually a bug in the software when sometimes I cannot contribute a response to a post and when I can, I can't edit it. That was the case with my last post. Now that you have quoted it I'm not going back to edit it. I just deal with it, as there is supposed to be a completely revamped version of the software coming out soon. I meant to write What?! in reaction your reaction to Dr. Clarke's statement below: The problem is there is no way to do this objectively. Sure, but you can't do this based upon how one looks. Your joke, "Well, the fact is White people...aka Contr I mean....uh....aka Caucasians....lol." illustrated this. There are other more objective ways of grouping people.

One of the things I like about running this site is the stuff I learn. Someone ordered the book Negro with Guns yesterday; I was not really familiar with the book nor was I familiar with Robert F. Williams, the author of the book. Negro with Guns is considered "the most important intellectual influence on the Black Pather Party." He also helped found Radio Free Dixie which was broadcast out of Cuba, where he lived in exile for e time, and could be heard all over the south, NY and LA. During the Vietnam War it was it was rebroadcast in Vietnam. Now I appreciate Williams was probably popular in his day, but I'm disappointed I was not familiar with him until now. Coincidentally their memoirs, Memoirs of Robert and Mabel Williams: African American Freedom, Armed Resistance, and International Solidarity will be published next week

Well, the Nation has its own paper, The Final Call, an award-winning member of the NNPA. More people should read it -- even if you are not interested in the NOI. I hope @Pioneer1 and @ProfD are not doing that. I don't recall reading anything they have written indicating that. I sure they were great events. If I lived in DC I probably I would have attended too, but I was not interested in traveling to deal with the humongous crowds listening to speeches. That is just not my thing... Given the dwindling numbers of the members of the NOI it's impact will continue to wane. Particularly as the nation becomes more secular.

No, the situation does not move me to nausea either. The idea that incompetent even evil white men are running things is not a new concept -- at least not to Black people. America, clearly, rewards this type of behavior. Indeed, western civilization is founded and grew rich because of it. The difference today is there were enough smart and "moral" people around to keep things from running off the rails. I'm afraid we don't have that in place, as our best and brightest are preoccupied figuring out ways to keep on a meta platform for an additional millisecond or building AI to accomplish the same thing...

Whar!? I guess you’ll just continue to dodge my very simple questions. I read the passage. It sounds like a contemporary interpretation of an event. That’s self evident by the use of the word “white” to describe people in the time of Bilal That that quoted section can’t possibly be a direct quote as Bilal didn’t write or speak English I can guarantee you any text in his native language would not have translated to what was quoted.. Besides, this is the same person saying that everyone descended from Adam and Eve… you know what never mind.