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@Kalexander2, another Delano tactic. I've previous asked you both to explain the steps that would need taken to justify your belief that a sitting president could be removed, for the 1st time in history, in little more than 3 months. You both have refused to do this, and now you are demanding that I do it -- something you've failed to do yourself. Why is your shooting from the hip with an empty gun any better than me?

Because of statement like this This statement is not supported by the data. Is my statement true or false @Delano? No I can't I can only devine your position, based upon your statements since you have an annoying habit of refusing to answer direct questions.

The statements are consistent with each other and with how I feel. Again I did not write 45 will be reelected I wrote he may be reelected. There is a difference.

Yes, there is a difference. Who really care what a zoologist or geneticist think about climate change? Do you know what percentage of climatologists believe in man made climate change?

The quote @Delano found is more accurate reflection of my sentiment. Of course if there is indeed a blue wave as a result of he midterms that will effect the odds.

Interesting, I could see whether you might feel Black people are ignorant or stupid, but I think this is more a consequence of centuries of racism. I hope none of the incidents you are not judging Black people on is not based upon the Cardi v.s. Nicki fight 😉

Del, it does not break down the death rate by income. That information is missing --- OBVIOUSLY! I was trying to help you understand that if the information were there, that it might reveal that wealthy Black men are murdered at a lower rate that poor ones. One would think this is common sense, but you are so determined to make a point you are being unreasonable. All I'm saying is that I'd rather be wealthy and Black in American, than poor and white. You clearly disagree and nothing you've written has convinced me otherwise Have you bothered to look at the death by homicide rates for you white men?

Yeah, the fact that weather in some locations have been colder in recent years is used by climate deniers to "prove" that global warming is not occuring, or if it is, it is not man made. The reality is weather in any location is not the synonymous as planetary climate change. Because they can't make the distinction they believe a spreadsheet with the temperature in Central Park for the last 100 years are sufficient evidence to deny climate change. As far as 97% of scientist (or all scientist) I don't know the number. What is the percentage of just climate scientists @Delano, 99.99%?

Honestly man, the ribbing was intended for @Delano I was just using you to get to him 😉 Really? Show me the quote, in context, because I don't hold the sentiment and don't recall writing such an unqualified statement like.

@Pioneer1 True. In NYC my parents generation could afford to buy a home, without a college education and on one income. My kids generation can have a college education and barely have earn enough money to rent a small apartment with a roommate while burdened with students loans.

@Pioneer1 did Cardi B and Minaj get into a physical brawl? Again, the celebrity beefs are a completely different animal. The rise of social media not only instigates the beefs it ensures everyone is made aware of it. Sure a good code would be to prohibit Black women (and men) from fighting each other. My understanding is that the Nation of Islam has "codes" and they police their own. You don't see any women in the Nation brawling in the streets. They all carry themselves with grace and class. Have you considered joining the Nation?

@Pioneer1, yes this is human nature and is what the study is trying to understand. The takeaway is that we can't be afraid to revise your our beliefs. Yeah once emotions are involved anything is possible. Some people think changing their beliefs -- despite new, better, or more information, is a sign of weakness. Others just don't have the energy to learn a new tricks and are content with the world view they currently have -- no matter how false it is. They embrace supporting information and reject contradictory information no matter how overwhelming it may be and the result is climate deniers, 45 supporters, flat earthers, and @Delano 😛

What?! Are you high? The chart clearly shows that, but that is not what you wrote. You obviously will not admit you were wrong lets move on. LOL! Man, all jokes aside I can;t tell you how many Black women I've been seeing with Black hair lately. But here is the kicker, I'm in a group talking about a festival to take place in an African country and one of the topics a sister from Africa proposed was to deal with skin lightening an European hair. I did not chime in on that one 🙂 I put the greatest generation in quotes because that is what the generation is called. I don't know whose generation was greater. I just know ours is very easily manipulated and the benefits that previous generations enjoyed this generation will never know --- but this generation has been duped into believing have it so good because they have a cell phone with Instagram on it!

Man @Kalexander2, you have ripped another page from Del's playbook, by dodging a direct question and posing unrelated others. You should change your name to "Delano2." @Delano, Yes I changed my position on Cosby after becoming aware of overwhelming evidence (Something you should consider regarding climate change). I do not think the Serna cartoon is racist. Changing my position after learning Osaka had a blond pony tail. I never said 45 would be reelected, I just have not dismissed it as a possibility. As far as being behind or ahead of the curve, that you thing not mine.

No, my friend, you under estimated my knowledge. Still, even taking your now corrected statement; that is still a poor justification for preferring to be a poor white man than a wealthy Bkack man. If you looked at the homicide rates for the Black men in the narrow population you've isolated you'll find the majority of those are poor Black men, not wealthy ones. Again class trumps race. White skin can only get you so far. This would be obvious to anyone who left the confines of their middle class enclaves.

Politics make strange bedfellow Lol! I'm glad you two have found common ground. @Delano It is interesting that you find my equating your reasoning with K2's "belittling." Lol! Man that is a good one! I have not laughed out loud from reading something here in a long time. Negro, I never said laws were perfect, but tell me something else that has improved anything for Black folks in the country.... I'll wait.

Half of the American's can not afford to buy the cheapest new car ($14,000); either they do not have the money to pay for it or the credit score to borrow the money. This he argues is one of the reason 45 was elected. YouTube definitely knows what videos to show me, because there was nothing this guy said that I disagreed with. The only difference is that he has data (and research) support my observations. Actually there were two other differences, the situation is actually a little worse than I thought, and there are actually solutions that can be implemented to fix all of this, but they would have to take place on a global scale. I was listening to this video guy while working. I think it is worth watching. As I post this I'm 50% into the video and will watch it again when I can focus on it completely.

LOL What?! @Kalexander2 OBVIOUSLY laws have no consequence it they are not followed and no law is perfect. However, If there are no laws what then would people follow? Your point of contention is lost on me. Besides being in league with Del on this Trump issue, your method is reasoning is beginning to rival his as well. Are you also a climate change denyer or flat earther too? 😉

@Delano Yes, your statement was completely wrong! Why don't you show the entire chart? Instead you cherry pick a 20 year range representing a minority of deaths. Rather than simply admitting your error and correcting yourself you dig in and attempt to justify your claim by taking a narrow band of data despite the fact that the chart shows homicide is less than 5% of all Black deaths. @Delano we are all wrong from time to time and make misstatements; this is perfectly normal. Being so stubborn is why you are a climate denier. The UC Berkeley study may help you understand your reasoning.

So @Kalexander2 if your position is that laws make no difference, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Sure, but you money is on 45 being booted before January 1st. Save a heart attack or an assassin, which is far more likely that the scenarios you and K2 have hatched, it ain't happening.

@Delano your reasoning for denying man made climate change is no different that the people who believe the Earth is Flat. The website is reporting on a study conducted by the University of California at Berkeley who are attempting to explain the reasons; "...why flat earthers, birthers, climate change and Holocaust deniers stick to their beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary?" Unlike procon.com they are not setting up false equivalencies can comparing conspiracy theories with the science. Now you can reject the study if you like, but that does not change reality. The Earth is not flat Del.

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@Delano you are a trip. You make an argument with a grossly inaccurate statement like: When I prove the statement was completely false, you then turn around and say something like this: So no Del when you make statement that are demonstrably wrong, I will not agree with them just to keep from being "bit polarised." Del, I read most of the articles you post and I do my best to understand and respond to your statements on this forum. This is a demonstrable fact. Now you may not like or agree with everything that I write in reaction to you, but this is perfectly normal and expected because we are human. Now you try to drag @Cynique into our conversation as if any disagreement I've had with her is the same as disagreements you, and therefore proof of some deficiency in me. The flaw in your reasoning is that every argument is different. For example, Cynique does not quote flawed stats. So when I disagree with her the reasons are different, and as you have observed I have no problem changing my position with new information, or seeing something from a different perspective.

@Delano, You are not the only one who can look past their own feelings. I too could see Trump winning despite what everyone else said and what I wanted. Again, I see 45 finishing out the year despite what you and I want, because even 45 is subject to due process and even if the process got started today (which it won't), they can not get him out until the end of the year, and nothing is likely to start until after the midterms. I believe it is your desire to see your astrological prediction come to fruition that is blinding you to what is obvious -- even without casting a chart, reading tea leaves, or gazing into a crystal ball. I also believe, despite my desire, that there is a good chance 45 will finish his term. So while I may indeed come over to you way of thinking, will has not happened yet, and even if it happened before the end of the year, 45 will still be in the whitehouse, @Kalexander2 Whaddya mean what change?! You realize it was laws that freed the enslaved, gave us the right to vote, and ended Jim Crow segregation. Now I don't know what you are reading or seeing to lead you to believe so strongly that the United States will remove a sitting president in less that 106 days