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@Kalexander2, I was thinking about Black folks rising up in armed rebellion which the government could easily dispatch. Now a white nationalist rising up is a completely different story and would be reacted to quite differently. Can you describe who a potential civil war would be between? Would it be like the last one, white folk fighting amongst themselves for their own interests. This I could see happening.

@zaji, Finally someone who refuses to enrich Hollyweird. Even my going to see the film, just so that I could talk about it, actually reinforces the thing I'm lamenting. @Kalexander2, yes you pretty much summed up my impression of the film. The other part is that I find it sad that we are at a point in our collective consciousness (or lack their of), that we need Stan Lee's Wakanda to bring us inspiration. Of actual history is inspirational, but we as a people are unaware of it. Again, white folks are running around emulating Thor (save on halloween). Why? Because they don't need to. @Delano I'm aware of Tomi. I you did not need to eave this site to share the same information: https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Tomi+Adeyemi So Bill Jennings has an old Black Panther comic? So do I. Are you trying to suggest that this is evidence of the BBP took it's logo and was influenced by the comic book character? (@Delano Please answer yes or no and why.)

The technology has advanced too far for a civil war @Kalexander2, the government could easily crush any uprising without leaving the comfort of their air-conditioned offices and be home in time for dinner. But I agree it is getting bad and will get worse, I just don't think there is anything we can do about it, at least not in violent manner -- we just don't have the muscle. I may move to some African nation one day. Maybe sooner than later...

Ok Del.

Black Panther will prove to be what it is a movie, of no more significance to Black people than the Thor franchise is to white people.

Yeah we all thought similarly before 45 was elected to office. I've learned not to underestimate this country.

’Nuff Said!

@Delano you are so hung up on being right you are blinded to the opportunity to learn anything. I'm surprised by this. You asked if the BPP party was inspired by the comic. That was silly on it's face, but I played along and showed where the BPP got their logo and inspiration from. If it makes you happy to believe that the Black Panther Party was inspired by Stan Lee's character, because it "proves" me wrong go right ahead. I can no longer help you. But consider this; while you run around rejecting truth, you've failed to produce a stitch of evidence to the contrary...

@Delano Where did you get your information Wakandipedia? Question (please do not respond with a question) were you entertaining the idea that the Black Panthers got their name from the comic? Lowndes County Freedom Organization was founded in 1965. Besides, panthers is like tigers, lions, whatever, are common symbols of clubs teams, or organization -- not particularly creative or unique. The movie will do no more for Black people than the comic Del. Think it through man, 'cause you won't find a historical precedent.

Del I'd be willing to bet 45 serves out his term he is almost 1/3 of the way through now. This is provided his fat junk-food-eating-self is not forced from office for health reasosn or one of the folks he is screwing over does not snap and get him first.

Hamilcar... I would not have recalled that one. In 1966, Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, and others were in the local rec center reading issues of Marvel's Black Panther comics, inspired they decided to arm themselves and fight police brutality and start breakfast programs to ensure children were healthy. I guess most would find the above perfectly plausible, but in reality the Black Panther Party predates the stupid comic book character, Besides one is an actual panther and the some fictional king.

Del please try not to copy what I just wrote. Here you've done it back-to-back. Again if you are responding directly to what I just wrote it is unnecessary and creates clutter which make it harder to shift through and read your thoughts. As far as your response; I'm confused bruh. Maybe that is a good indication we've gone as far as we can with this one

Clever and devilishly brilliant... I don't even take it personally, or believe it is racially motivated anymore. Greedy rich people will do anything to get another dollar and to secure their wealth. They will take the food away from a starving baby if it means more money in their pockets. That baby could be white or Black; it does not matter. White people are gunned down, in mass shootings, on a regular basis. The oligarchy wants to allow anyone to buy weapons of war without restriction just to make more money.

What do you think the order of my response means?

I make the distinction between our behaviors as influenced by marketers (as evidenced by our collective orgaism over the Black Panther Film) and behaviors born of traditions we create. The former is fleeting; the later is more sustained. Now that does not mean that our culture is not influenced by the majority culture (white folks). How could it not be? My only argument is that Black Panther is nothing more than a revenue stream for a few wealth white folks. All this noise about a culture revolution awaken of Black pride, a renaissance in African cultural heritage, and the beginning of Black empowerment because of this film is just plain silly. The Black Panther film does not define our culture. Our reaction to it, however, is a direct reflection of it.

Your question brings to mind John Boehner whose crying I find ridiculous. I can, however, have sympathy for white folks crying, just like I would for anyone else. It all depends upon the situation.

Yeah the situation is FOBAR. This quote, from the article is quote telling. "Over the past 40 years, the prison population has quintupled. As a consequence of disparities in arrests and sentencing, this eruption has disproportionately affected black communities. Black men are imprisoned at six times the rate of white men. In 2003, the Bureau of Justice Statistics estimated that black men have a 1 in 3 chance of going to federal or state prison in their lifetimes. For some high-risk groups, the economic consequences have been staggering. According to Census data from 2014, there are more young black high school dropouts in prison than have jobs." When you come from the inner city this is quite evident. High swaths of our population are unemployed and unemployable. This will remain the case as long as we, in the Black community, refuse to educate our poor Brother and Sisters. Clearly, the government will not do this. Private industry will not do it -- but private industry will take money we borrow from government subsidized loans and still not educate us!

Yes Kalexander, Black people are not the only ones who fail prey the influence of marketers, which is not synonymous with "white culture." Del, Hannibal's father's name escapes me now, but I learned about both in the documentary of Dr, Clarke's life A Great Mighty Walk (I consider it required viewing). It is also covered in his books.

Del I gave you one prime example when I wrote; I actually teach web design at the college level right now. What I teach, and the how I teach it, has nothing to do with the way the school was founded. You did not address this. Would you care to do it now? I see that you chose not to answer my question again. I can only assume that you agree with what I wrote.

Yes that is my final answer. The bit about the Peace Prize was hyperbole, but it seems very likely 45 will serve out his full term and I would not be surprised if he wins a second. I read the article and there is nothing in it that weakens my statement. If I missed something please point it out.

Seems 45 as been absolved of the Russian collusion. They also tell us that the stock market is rallying, the employment rate is low, and the economy is booming. Even 45's approval rating is up. He is about to smooth things over in North Korea. I don't think Trump is going anywhere anytime soon, shoot he may get a 2nd term and a Nobel Peace Prize.

The was a typo in my last post, which I corrected (I'm sure you understand typos). Something tells me you knew what I meant though. Dude, leaving the question mark off, still makes it a question. Why do you insist on answering my questions with a question? I asked you a direct question and you jumped somewhere else. I asked you what does your most recent statement, "Does that also mean that Christianity endorsing the slave trade is of no consequence" have to do with the statement I previously made or the influence between religion and science that you are asserting? If you dodge my questions only to ask seemingly unrelated questions we won't get anywhere.

Everybody getting paid off this movie but Black folks and we running around correcting each other on how to properly do the wakanda salute (lower case "w" is deliberate).

@Delano free screenings in African -- that is called marketing, expanding an audience to make more money. Facebook is covering the earth with free internet access, do you think they are going this out of pure largess or to make money? Del the Huxtables were based in reality, Wakanda is based upon a white boy's fantasy. There is a big difference. Stan Lee is revered; Bill Cosby is going to jail. Cigarettes, porn, cocaine, deep fried oreos, and action flicks all make people feel good, and I'm afraid that is all they do-- at best. Look, white folks do this crap too. They built a statue to perpetuate their mythology. They overlooked Joe Frazier, an actual boxing champion, and built statue for Rocky?! This comes from a desire to make up for a deficiency and does not come from a position of strength. Again, our over-the-top assimilation of the world of wakanda comes from a position of weakness. If we base our source of strength on some shit white people made up and own and they we pay them for, we are indeed in very bad shape... but you know what this is par for the course why should I be surprised. Good list by the way ;-)

No problem. Yeah I just wish I could pull some the the passionate Black folks.