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OK I have $100 on the line. $50 to @Kalexander2 and $50 to @Delano Gentlemen, I admire and somewhat envy your faith in the wheels of justice. I hope when you lose you don't become too jaded.

Wait, what? I have a another live one @Kalexander2, the bet is 45 will not finish the year (December 31st 2018) as president. Shoot the midterms are in November -- I'll give you until the end of the year. Bet? I may need to find a way to hold these bets in escrow. @Delano, to be crystal; we are not talking about some Clinton type impeachment (which won't happen either). We are talking about 45 being out of office and Pence is now president before end end of the year, right?

If the rents are tripled in the projects I don't know what they are going to do with all the people who live there now. In New York City there are no viable alternative for people living in federally subsidized housing. We need more projects not less in places like New York, the capitalist system is not working for great numbers of people. The schools in these communities were gutted generations ago. White people, and even some middle class Black folks, in Harlem just want to projects leveled and don't care what happens to the people. I dunno, maybe we can just put them on a reservation somewhere, out of the way, like some desert in Arizona. Or maybe send them back to Africa...

Bill Cosby is now a convicted felon. Up next Harvey Weinstein on deck Tom Brokaw. Seriously, does anyone thing any of these rich white does will feel the weight of the criminal justice system? You will the system used the "Just-Us" system as always.

So @Delano, do the female feminists have a right to fight against the clothing some muslim women wear? Being narrow minded is not an option that I would ever choose. My default position is not one of understanding, but of one trying to learn. We are all unique -- even women are not a monolith and given the same information we will conclude different things -- not even all women will agree. I believe the best decisions do not come from individuals but through the senthesis of our collective wisdom. Of course I understand the reality is that sharing your wisdom rarely happens, because it is hard. Plus there are people, like you, who don't even believe it should be done. Then there are people who fight against this for reasons of power and control.

Alright! That's what's up! , This is win-win for me cause i'd pay to see that guy with the weird hairdo get the boot. Plus in the extremely unlikely event that you win @Delano, not only will you get $50 I'll never question your astrological prowess gansta

@Kalexander2, the photo is actually of the James Weldon Johnson Housing Projects in Harlem in New York City 🙂 (or simply "Johnson," as we used to call the place) Chicago and NY have a lot of similarities, so I could see why the image may be confusing. Plus Johnson is much older than Taylor or Cabrini, it was built in the 40's. The projects are, really, the only affordable options available. which is why many residents stay for generations. They are also afraid the city is trying to get rid of they, but not maintaining the apartments very well.

I remember this flick, and it is hard to image it is 40 years old. The first time I went to Chicago I had to visit the Cabrini-Green housing projects. I enjoyed the film because it was shot in the projects. Like Claudine that came before it, which was filmed in Harlem, it showed a side of life that really was not shown in the movies before that time. I grew up in the projects. Mine were taller, more like Robert Taylor houses on Chicago's south side. The projects I grew up in are still standing. Some of the families have been there for generations. Like the guy in the interview above says we had fun growing up --despite the crime, violence, drugs and poverty. In the middle of this photo is an elevated train which I hates because if you are on the phone or watching TV you simply can't hear until the train goes by. The read arrow shows my window. The train is Park Avenue. Yes "the" park avenue. Just one mile south a 20 minute walk is some of the most expensive real estate in the country. We used to call that real "white boy" terrority. Some of the more brazen thugs from my neighborhood would go down there to rob the kids. Many years later when I had kids of my own, I sent them to school in "white boy territory," and I had occasion to visit some of the homes of their classmates. I'm glad I did not do this when I was a kid. I'm not sure I how I would have handled the disparity...

Don't be too hard on Kanye. He seems to need help. The media are happy to regurgitate the ravings of famous lunatics. All the media cares about is our attention and they will do anything to get it. I try to ignore most of it, so while I did hear Kanye tweeted something asinine, I have not read it and have less than zero interest in doing so. In fact the only thing I read on Twitter is the reaction to links I've shared.

@Pioneer1 OK.

@Delano I think the 90 days of delay buys me more time... Wanna bet $50 45 finishes the year?

So @Delano, do the female feminists have a right to fight against the clothing some muslim women wear? Man, as far as lanes are concerned where do you draw the line? That is like saying to a white american. "it is a Black thing -- you can't understand." It is a is a cop-out and speaks to an unwillingness or inability to explain. We all have lanes and at a certain point the lane can be very individualized. I would bet you money that there are some women that understand, and really "see," you better that some guys do. To me saying that men should stay completely out of an conversation that involves women (or vice versa) is short sighted and unnecessarily limiting. I'm not saying men should make the final decision for women, I'm saying rejecting male input is narrow minded. @Pioneer1, I'm making a completely different point. Now if all Catholic women had to dress like nuns then your point would be a valid comparison, but still not relevant to my point.

Queenx, I don't like the way this particular trial went against Cosby myself. The woman already collected 3 million from Cosby and continued to bring her family around him after the sexual assault. You might find this research a clinical psychologist, a Brother, did on all the accusers of Cosby interesting.

@Mel Hopkins, this must be a bug in the recent upgrade. I'll report it. I'm sure others have already noticed it and it will certainly get sorted in the next upgrade -- thanks for letting me know,

@Pioneer1, You wrote in an earlier post that you thought Odell was trying to be a white women. I clearly recall reading that. I can;t find that post so I can only assume to removed the statement. Now I'm cool with correcting posts or removed statement that you have later come to regret But is disingenuous of you to then ask me why I asked you the question about Odell was trying to be a white women. I don't recall you doing that before. Indeed, I don't recall anyone one doing it before. If you regret making the statement that is fine -- just say so, but don't make it seem like I pulled it out of thin air. Mel if you use the shorted url (youtu.be) it will not automatically embed you have to use the full URLP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZlCYNxt-Jk

Del my name is not Pioneer, the new information forced me to change my original position. I still think he will remain in office at least until the end of the year. So while I'm not as confident that he'll complete the remainder of his term, I think it is still likely. At lot has to happen first. Once they allowed all those women to speak you know it was a wrap for Cosby. Originally when it was the one woman from Rutgers who continued to come around Bill and even bring her family and friends to met him after the sexual assault, and she took over 3 Million dollars from him. I'm sure I would not have voted not guilty myself.

@Delano, since men and women need each other for survival, why can't men weigh in on the subject of feminism? It goes without saying each of us should be allowed to make out own decision about what is right for us, but our decisions should not be made in a vacuum, would you agree? I saw a woman in one of those getups that some muslim women wear, you know where only your eyes can be seen. Now I have no problem with a women wearing this if she wants. But there are some who are actively fighting against women dressing in this fashion. Many of these women are feminists -- are these feminists right or even justified in trying to erdadicate this type of restrictive and impractical clothing?

Whoa hold everything. I can't vouch for pioneers appearance -- he hides it from everone. He could be a gay, white, mason for all I know 😲 Pioneer I wonder if you would tell Odell to his face that you thought he was a white woman? Look like most dudes from the baby boomer generation I think these young cats spend way to much time at the hairdresser, but I would stop short of believing he wants to be a white woman. Michael Jackson perhaps, Odell I doubt it. He just wants attention.

What?

I took in additional, new info, and altered my opinion. Why is doing that that treated ridicule?

@Delano, I'm a little surprised at you regarding your knowledge about Black men being able to vote before white women... well maybe not so much that, because I'm pretty confident most people did not know this. But it s easy to look up I'm not even sure why you are pressing me to produce proof for something so easy to find. I don't mind quoting @Pioneer1 when he is right. If you notice he referenced history rather than saying all the Black men he knows voted before any white women he knows 😉 You won't get an argument from me about whether Black women need feminism, because they probably do. But feminism, like racism are tools used to keep us all down.

Well @Delano things look to be swaying into your favor. I still think 45 will last until the end of the year. I'm not so confident about him finishing his term.

@Delano I don't understand the point of your question. If something is "objective," by definition, we'd all need to agree on it, right? @Pioneer1, when was the last time you read a book and what was the title?

Pioneer again pointing your to web based sources are asking you to visit the library is pointless. Time and time again you've demonstrated that nothing I present will dissuade you from your beliefs. Rather than having me "prove" the validity of the data others have already collected, why don't YOU prove anything you've said. I've already asked you twice to provide proof that white women were the first to dye their hair blue or that Black women dye they hair blue to be like white women. You've ignored the questions and you'll ignore them now because you can't produce anything, besides your imagination. to substantiate your statements.

@Delano I did not write feminism is less important or even dangerous to the black cause. I'm not sure where you got that. What I'm saying is that keeping women down and Black people down are all about power. As far was Black men being allowed to vote before Black women Pioneers statement is correct and sufficient to provide the point. Black men were also able to vote throughout the country at different times as well (this you can easily find yourself). Black people were allowed to vote in NY State during the 18th century provided they met the property requirements. Of course this does not stop evil, power hungry white people from disenfranchising Black folks to this day. Today felons in the state of Florida can never vote even after they served their time. This might partially explain why Trump won the state.