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A nice well written review Cynique. I will include a link to this page in my next eNewsletter planned for October 28th. Now that I know the BAB can be consumed in chucks I may check it out. Was there a "Miss Anne" you found most compelling? Rather which one would you recommend that I read? Miss Anne in Harlem: The White Women of the Black Renaissance by Carla Kaplan

Here is a Link to Cynique's review of .

This book will probably do quite well :-) The link above does not go to the best Amazon page for desktop viewers here is a better link: http://amzn.to/stormey

It seems sometimes Black folks forget this is America and that they can't always get away with the same crap white folks get away with. Can you imagine if Michelle and Barack did 1/2 the stuff Bill and Hillary did?

There was in interesting story on The American Life about the FDA in ability to properly label drugs to prevent accidental over dose: "One of the country's most popular over-the-counter painkillers — acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol — also kills the most people, according to data from the federal government. Over 150 Americans die each year on average after accidentally taking too much. And it requires a lot less to endanger you than you may know. We reported this alongside ProPublica".

Cynique, I agree with you, but that does not mean Pioneer is wrong too. I suspect escaping from prison has happened before and probably occurs at least a few times a year. Even it If it only happens 2 or 3 times a year then Pioneer would have a point, since this case made national news. These Brother got the idea from somewhere -- I would not be surprised if the same form of escape previously happened at the same prison, but we were not informed about it.

This is the continuation of a that got a little muddled by a couple of guys going back and forth without making much progress :-) Does anyone thing there are ideas or beliefs rather that are believed, or at least adhered to by so many people that those ideas are considered "universal"? Now "universal" is an absolute term and nothing I can think of is absolute. This is one of the reasons I'm careful about using the word never or always. If I use the word "never," I'm exaggerating. Otherwise I'll say something like, "exceedingly rare" or highly unlikely. Sometimes things that may have been "universal" in western culture in the past can, over time change. Belief in the validity of gay marriage or the genetic inferiority of Black people are a couple of examples. This is in contrast to changes in our understanding of facts like shape of the Earth. People who believe the Earth is flat are simply ignorant. Whereas people can and will for sometime argue about whether marriage between same sex individual is "right", as it tears at the very fabric of all of the major religions.

Del I'm going to reboot this conversation and pick up where you left off in a

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You know I started watching a screener of Skip Gates new series The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross which will broadcast on PBS starting on the 22. It is interesting enough and I'd recommend it. After watched the 1st two parts of a six part series we decided to take a break and watch Booker's Place: A Mississippi Story this was a really fascinating movie! Booker's place made Gates program seem sanitized, almost boring, by comparison There are a few segments of the film which are just priceless. (1) was Booker describing how her felt about being a waiter (the version is the actual film is better than what is shown in the trailer), and (2), perhaps even more moving was when an a "redneck", anxious to show how well he treated his share croppers, had those share croppers interviewed and (3) member's of the Citizens Council (apparently a front organization fore the Klan) explained how happy the Black people in Greenwood MS where and how it was better to keep the students separated to spare them from being discouraged by being in the same classroom with white children. Hearing the people talk was just fascinating! As an Amazon prime member you can watch the film for free.

Yeah and the campus (Morehouse, Spelman and Clark) are essentially fenced off from the community which indeed is pretty depressed. Spelman is completely fenced off. Rather than serving as in inspiration to the surrounding community it is more like an inaccessible ivory tower. You get the same conflict with college students and "townies" almost any where you go. I wonder if white students experience the same thing. Somehow I doubt it, at least not to the same extent that Black students do.

Interesting scene it could be very easily played out today. I went to a reading of writers from the Dominican Republic this week. It was interesting how the Blacks from of the Dominican Republic lamented being marginalized because they were.. clearly of African descent -- "cocolos". But when the come here they don't always self identify themselves Black ala Sammy Sosa or Zoe Saldana. Who can blame them. Samuel L Jackson's character is right. It does not matter what you think of yourself if the society at large views you differently But Fishburnes character is right too in that you can't allow yourself to be viewed the way society wants to view you. The question becomes how do you deal with the discrepancy between who your are and how society views you? Most people, it seems to me, fall into the Samuel L. Jackson camp and assume the role society bestows upon them. It is Jherry curl juice one day and saggin' pants the next. More and more kids on college campus have more in common with Sam's character than Larry's.

OK, one thing at a time to answer your question: Is Set theory a subset of logic? Del I'm not sure what you are trying to get at or where this question came from, so I reviewed this conversation. you wrote: You [Troy] and the KKK don't share mu [sic] beliefs about being non judging. So in that dense [sic] you are closer in your world views about others. Than either of you are with me. In reaction I wrote: "Del you should review you [sic] course work in set theory. If I and the KKK do not share your beliefs; you can not then conclude that I and KKK share anything in common. All three sets, you, me and the KKK, could still share nothing in common." This is where set theory was introduced. After reviewing what I wrote I stand by the statement. I will take it a step further; your statement about me and the KKK was indeed illogical. Is this the actual basis of your repeated question? "What I www [sic] talking about was logic, I think set theory and Venn diagrams are a subset of logic." "I'll go back and check, but I asked you the following question. Isn't set theory a subset of logic." "I will ask you a question again is set theory a subset of Logic?" Why are you demanding an answer to a question to something I did not assert and that you can easily look up yourself? If it is a rhetorical question you could simply supply the answer and advance your point (whatever it may be) instead of beating me over the head with it. Sheesh Del went back to May to dig something a factually inaccurate statement of mine?! I could look up your flawed argument against disproving the Nyquist theorem as it relates to reproducing frequencies in the audio range too. But it would not occur to me to use that old mistake in this argument, for you've provided enough material right here... -------------------------------- At the end of the day the simple point remains: I believe there are some things that considered wrong by so many people, across cultures and time, that they could be considered universally wrong. Just because people engage in a behavior that does not mean that even they believe it is right. Even a sociopath knows killing an innocent person is wrong. Finally we as a society have to determine what is right or wrong behavior, for ourselves and others, and attempt to enforce those beliefs. These beliefs and values will change from culture to culture and from time to time and that is fine, normal, for we learn new things all the time. It seems to me Del that you are caught up in the "judging" aspect and believe in moral relativism where no one is right or wrong and all behavior should be tolerated. A position that might be cool philosophically but one that I disagree with in real world practice quite strongly.

Del you continue to draw conclusions that do not follow logically from either what I actually wrote or you have misinterpreted from what I've written. You have accused me of believing that my opinions are fact the assuming that I stop thinking at that point. Again this does not follow from my behavior or writings; why would I bother running a discussion forum, for the better part of 20 years, if I was not interested in thinking about ideas? I have no idea what set theory and the embodied mind theory have in connection with each other or why you are trying to connect the two. I have simply not had time to investigate embodied mind theory sufficiently to have an opinion about it. Which is why I have not commented on the subject yet. "I systematically explained why your conclusion was wrong" If you can tell me what conclusion of mine you proved wrong that would help. Honestly, I have no idea what you are talking about. Del, unless the suicide bomber were coerced or brainwashed, obviously they thought the behavior was right! I never inquired about their opinion of their behavior. I asked you YOUR opinion of their behavior, an opinion you refuse to provide for some reason unknown to me. "In my opinion you are fitting the world to your beliefs..." What?! I think you have that one backwards. If anything I try to make my beliefs fit the world. It might be easier if you rebooted this conversation, stick to a single idea, and stop projecting, what you must apparently believe onto others (at least me).

That is quite a tribute Cynique -- thank you so much! It is one of the reasons I don't mind struggling doing what I do rather than living more comfortably working for a corporation doing something has absolutely no value to myself or my community. But if I had not worked for a corporation I would never would have had the resources to do what I do -- or to be able to make the distinction in personal satisfaction. Also, I save information like this here, not so much because I think folks want to read the gory details about maintaining AALBC.com, but because it serves as a historical archive. In the future, I'm going to begin to share information about Black books called 15 years ago today and highlight event or miles stones from the website here on the site.

It seemed extreme, but he actually said it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNTuIxLXAo8 It does not sound as extreme when you hear the statement in context. At the end of the day everyone in the US should have healthcare, a college education and an affordable place to live. The country is far to wealthy for this not to be the case.

Pioneer do you know MANY people I don't recall the number OD accidentally on Tylenol and die. I think laws should protect people from themselves as well. I just don't know how we actually do this. The government has failed miserably in preventing people from killing themselves with an over the counter medication. Also one can die from just doubling the recommended dose!

It is the same in NYC. Black people do not have meaningful jobs in corporations but virtually all the workers working for transit are Black. I'd be willing to bet the majority who work for the Post Office are Black as well. The reason you like PBS is the reason I like YouTube. I have discovered so many talks by Black intellectuals -- it is a gold mine of information.

"They don't trust Black people as much as Black people trust them." Yeah I believe this to be true Pioneer. Also if I did happen to get out alive with the photos. I, like most other Black folks, would be able to get the book published. Even if the book was published, I doubt Black people would buy it in significant numbers. If I had the money I would do it myself. Dude, white people have no problem putting low class white folks on TV -- if there is money on it -- have you seen any "reality" TV? Black people, in America, are history... going the way of the so called native American.

Del communicating with you would be much easier if you did two things; (1) answer questions when posed; and (2) Be direct. What I mean by direct is rather than telling me what is not useful tell me what is useful.

Yes it was a compliment and a dig too. You do have a lot of photos of yourself man. I hear you on the hours man 16 hours a day is not unusual for me. In fact the last couple of months I've been putting in 12 to 16 hours regularly every day, a day off here and there, but pretty much grindin' all day. I don't go around the clock -- I can't really focus without rest. I use to put in 2 to 3 hours of time on social media. I found; (1) I don't enjoy it very much (2) the investment is time was taking away from my actual life. You see I still have to do everything I always did with AALBC.com before before the rise of social media -- heck even more. So the social media time expenditure was not worth the trade off to me. I also have a philosophical aversion to social media as well. You see they are making money off everyone who participates with out sharing in the wealth. While at the same time making it even more difficult for indie sites to survive, due to the competition. So I've opted out -- using social media solely to promote AALBC.com, and most of the time I can do that remotely without even opening up Facebook. Yeah it has been a long time since we met, seems like it was prior to 2003 -- but you would know better.

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I actually revised the site a couple of weeks ago to display differently for visitors who want to print an AALBC.com page (I really should have done this a long time ago) and for visitors with very narrow screens (some mobile devices or older monitors). Looking and the Wil Haygood page above we have three different flavors of the website Normal Display This is what the vast majority of visitors to the page will see when the visit. Printed Version Now when a visitor prints the page unnecessary things for the printed page, like the navigation menus, search box, advertisements, videos are removed. The URL for links are revealed as an additional convenience. Display for Narrow Screens (mostly handheld devices) The menu is converted into a list of links and all the images and video are re-sized to fit into the screen. The text also wraps to fit the available screen width. The ads are removed as well in this format. Interestingly, Apple devices handle the resizing automatically (as in the screen shot from the earlier post). This is just one of several behind the scenes updates I made to AALBC.com recently. The next set of changes will be to completely redesign all of the main pages and the homepage. I have not decided exactly what I will do but it will be more visual lest text dense with much of the content currently on the homepage being puished down to the main category pages authors, books, resources, events, etc... Here is what AALBC.com looked like in 1997 I started AALBC.com 16 years ago to the day. There have been countless changes to the design and features of this website over the years. Click here if you want to see more changes to AALBC.com over the last 16 years.

I read the preview and it peaked my interested I may purchase a copy when I have a little more time -- it looks like a very quick read.

You did not ask me Pioneer but in my short 50+ years in my environment girls are absolutely heavier. Again not data -- just observations. If also appears the is a direct correlations between weight and class. Wealthier children are not as fat as poorer children. Again my unscientific observations. I can't speak to the other physical attributes that you mentioned. It does seem that girls are coming out more frequently and at an earlier age. I say this because I often see high school aged homosexual girls, or at least presenting as such. I did not notice this at the same frequency 30/40 years ago for high school girls.