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@Pioneer1 i would not be so hard on people who don’t buy a new car every 5 years. the average car on the road today is a hoopty, as the average car is more than 12 years old. The average price of a new car today is twice what it was in 1970. Houses are also much more experience. Today everyone in the average home has to work for a halfway decent lifestyle (adequate shelter, clothing, food and a free amenities like a cell phone or going to the movies) 50 years ago a single highschool educated man could afford to provide for an entire family. “failure” would not be an accurate description, as the company is profitable and given the business environment, earning $1B could be considered a success. But i get Wall Street wants to see an increase in profits year over year, but the context matters. Even if the company loses money — even for a decade or more does not make it a failure, consider Amazon. …. So i agree with @Pioneer1 on this one 😮

No, we shouldn’t, but people do it all the time. Ignoring complexity makes the world easier to understand, but harder to navigate because of the simplistic reasoning. you keep saying that, but it flys completely in the face of what we know about genetics. Did you read that article i shared? this would be copying the flawed tactic of the racist. Why continue this? Clearly it is not a good idea.

BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A WHITE RACIST SOCIETY, not a Black racist one. There is no societal advantage for a so called white person passing for Black. Is this news to you?

because race is not solely function of the capacity to produce melanin. I’m sure sure even pioneer would are with that. Yes because i went to know if they are Black in your book. Are they? You done this before @Pioneer1 the passages quoted are not providing a scientific basis for race. However you will notice that the word ethnicity is joined with the word race. Ethnicity is more accurate but people are so used to using race they put race in there. here is an article that might help. Try teasing reading it it helps explain the point i was trying to make in great detail: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/ i don’t expect you to change your mind @Pioneer1 (you never do), but it may help clarify things for others with open minds.

If a tree falls in the forest…

Of course! What is holding you up? We’ve been at this for more than a decade. So Kamala Harris and Malcolm X are not Black, according to @Pioneer1 as they both pass the brown bag test. Malcolm even have red hair putting him firmly in the white race, right Pioneer? what you are saying is based upon what your eyes tell you, not what our genes say. Genetically we are essentially identical. There is no test for race. For this reason.

Of course. History tells us this. Please provide a link to one such study. please provide a source that says “race” Is a scientific category or fact. Wait, so works Rock Newman qualify for reparations? @Pioneer1 Is Barack Obama Black? Is he an AfroAmerican?

Thanks for sharing your upcoming titles here @Lee and Low Books I'll reach out if there is interest in reviewing your upcoming titles.

@richardmurray If a Black couple has an albino child would they be "Black" or white? All normal humans produce melanin, so then we would be forced to looking at the degree of one's melanin production (as you've defined it) to determine racial categories. Does Melanin production change over time? Can people be white at birth become Black in adulthood. How does melanin production change based upon environment. If a white person in the northern hemisphere moved close to the equator, can they slip into Blackness? I don't know the science of genetics of melanin production, but I'm pretty confident like most human characteristics that there is not a single gene that defines this and that There probably epigenic factors as well. Do you really want to go down this road with @Pioneer1 😉 Now that you mention it, it would be more accurate to describe humanity as "Black" rather that dividing us into to the completely arbitrarily-subjective racist defined colors like Black, white, red, and yellow. Absolutely (race is factually an arbitrary construct BTW). How then do we end racism? Surely, it can't be by perpetuating the concept of race?

The fact she got away with it, running a NAACP chapter, ought to tell you how arbitrary race is... Then there is Walter White; "I am a Negro. My skin is white, my eyes are blue, my hair is blond. The traits of my race are nowhere visible upon me."

@ProfD, lets see what @Pioneer1 has to say about it 😉

So you are saying that things are pretty bad in NYC and that this is not being discussed in the media? That is easy. Moving is expensive. If you live in the PJ's housing is pretty cheap. So while everything thing else is expensive you gotta find another apartment in another city. where the rent goes up every year. The cheaper places often require an automobile. Many new yorkers don't own a car and cannot drive. There are many other reasons. Then there is matter of employment... I moved to Tampa, FL to save money, but things have gotten a lot more expensive in the last few years. I also moved to Tulsa OK. Sure both are cheaper than NYC, but it is not "cheap." Again, the cheapest places require a car and the wages are not as high. American cities are expensive. The "rent is too damn high."

How do you come to learn of this story @Pioneer1? I looked the call letters are from a station in Charlotte, NC Again, just because you say they are not Black is a matter of your opinion. Dude, all of these designations are completely arbitrary (there is no genetic test for Black). If someone you define as white wants to identify as Black there is really nothing you can do about it. @Pioneer1 (anyone) Is Rock Newman Black?

Ok @Delano I give up. I wrote that I did the search and you wrote. I'm sorry you feel that way.

Glad you enjoyed it. It was a pleasant surprise to me too. I also watched a interview with the filmmakers the main pimps in the film was murdered before the flick wrapped. They had to pay the Panthers off. It was amazing the a film of it's type of was made and a miracle it was finished.

If you acknowledge this is true, then why not simply post the link? If I were not interested, we would not be having this conversation. The lack of interest is in your willingness to elaborate. @Pioneer1 I was with you until a point. Where are you getting the characteristics that you are ascribing to genetics. For example: These two statements cannot be supported by anything other than your opinion. Of course, there are genetically determined differences between men and women. However, to assert for example that an AfroAmerican man is genetically less predisposed to monogamy that a White American is, with all due respect to a long-term financial supporter of this site, ridiculous.

You know in the time you took to write that @Delano you could have simply shared the link. Btw id did the query but did not see an obvious result.

I wouldn’t know what to look up to understand your response @Delano my comments regarding ChatGPT exhibited both concrete and abstract thinking…

I just read your report. It has not occurred to me to research the writer Bixby. If it is interesting read that he was near death, maybe the film appeals to me even more as i now consider my own mortality. I’m old enough to have seen people’s entire lives go by… I see from @richardmurray’sv coverage Bixby wrote for Star Trek and The Twilight Zone. The twilight zone episode was from a short story that was in this 1953 book, which i just brought i can’t wait to read it.

Again, it is all in YouTube’s strategy to drive ad sales. are the kids dumbazzes or have they been manipulated by Google to do something dangerous for the attention and a little money, so that Google can increase engagement on YouTube and sell more ads? 😉

I assume this is with regard to my impression of ChatGPT, if so yes, I’m speaking from a practical standpoint in that it has allowed me to do things that u simply could not have done in my own. But abstractly speaking I’m not sure what you mean. Would you elaborate @Delano.

Yes. It is an excellent study of what it would be like if someone could live for a very long time. Yes. It is an excellent study of what it would be like if someone could live for a very long time. None of the vampire or Highlander violence or drama. No high tech, just conversation.

@Pioneer1another conversation asked me to recommend more movies. This is not a “Black” film, but there is an intelligent brother in it. This is one of my favorite films of all time.

Yeah we are so easily manipulated… I’m on the web everyday and i have to battle. Every platform seems like it is covered with click bait. Even seemingly reputable sites run click bait ads. When you logon to many sites you don’t go to your stuff you are presented with the feed. I go to YouTube to upload a video and i see the feed. 10 minutes later I’m trying to remember what i went to YouTube for… It would not be so bad if the stuff you were manipulated into watching actually benefited it you, but it never does… it is like every time you went to the fridge for a nutritious meal all you saw was your favorite desert with a sexy woman encouraging you eat them with you. the veggies are in there, but they getting harder and harder to find…

@Delano Underwhelming? Really? I think ChatGPT is amazing -- full stop! Climate and AI have the potential to do a great deal of harm, both are in the hands of humans.