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  1. TOPICS Cento poetry Series eleventh edition Love That Pass Ships In The Night stageplay Question: are you eloi or morlock? Question: How do you define Gratitude? Dates , Astrological or other IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR : Plant dye pocket from plant dye for textiles , fetish tools in modernity from Trevor Brown, little mermaid from movies that move we, African Futurism collection edited by wole talabi, everyone complains side the blacks in aalbc, Chuck berry side bo didley https://rmnewsletter.over-blog.com/2023/06/08/06/2023-rmnewsletter.html
  2. frankster Take it from me....The media say they are lying Oh, the MEDIA says they are lying???? The Christ(deity) within you has Arisen(kundalini). I know about the Kundalini. Connecting it with Christ......not so sure of. Seems like two separate concepts from two separate religions/belief systems....that somehow got merged in the West. Christ is a Greek term that early Christians used instead of Messiah. Somehow a lot of spiritualist have coined the term "Christ consciousness" to describe a type of enlightenment, however I question if that was the original meaning behind the word Christ. I was on the path....life women alcohol drugs laziness family and fear distracted me. LOL.....I definitely hear that! Actually, for me personally....women and wealth is what DROVE me and is DRIVING me on the path of deeper Spirituality. I wanted and still want both however I want to get them the RIGHT way....not in a way that will cause more damage or destruction. I wanted nice cars, money, and to be surrounded by women.....but I didn't want to sell dope or engage in illegal activities to do it because I saw the end results of that activity. So I sought out other means. This is why I can't get with religions and spiritualists who insist that people live lives of poverty and want. If you claim to be on the right spiritual path but are poor and have to beg from those LESS spiritually enlightened for money and food....to me that's evidence that you might not be on the right path. You claim you got the right religion....but you're on food stamps. You're working on a job owned by atheists or people of a different religion, relying on THEM to support you and your family. Come on man........ It very well may.....diet heavily influences mood and mood influences thought and vice versa - hence may lead to a change of environment. Correct! However him changing HIS mood alone....while the rest of his community survives off a diet of junk food, poison vaccines, and dope....does little to change the environment. Perhaps a change in diet and attitude will give HIM the good sense to MOVE away from such a destructive environment, lol.
  3. Lol....Black men wearing dresses. I think many Black men in this society grow up secretly wanting to be a WHITE WOMAN. As the young people say "no cap". I truly believe that many Black men in this society really believe that if they were a White woman their lives would be so much easier. They look on television, in the movies, and in society and see how much more respect and dignity and support White women get....compared to them. The society in general holds White women up as smarter, more educated, more moral and with a higher ethical standard. Whether you're on the job at the work place, or on a college campus.....all you have to do is have a group of White women behind an idea cheering it on and it becomes policy and the rest of the people will just go along with it. Including Black women, Asians, and certainly White men. And don't even talk about the violence and how White women are seen as so fragile that they often get more protection from civilians as well as police than other groups. White women aren't expected to fight or even know how to fight. They aren't expected to be tough and brave. A Black male growing up in the hood where there is tremendous pressure on him to be violent and show he's not a punk....often constantly.....will look at this with envy. Black boys grow up looking at this and saying to themselves that if they were a White woman...things would be so much easier for them and next thing you know they are putting on dresses and blonde wigs and acting like....not just any woman...but a WHITE woman.
  4. frankster To many of a Spiritual Inclination this physical life is a sojourn in Hell....Now there are caveats. I've heard others say this. I don't believe it however. This physical life contains both bad and good. I'm more inclined to look at this particular physical life as sort of a "kindergarten" where you graduate from it to move to a higher grade/level of Reality. Yes....Who knows what happens behind Palace doors and in Palatial homes. True. However we KNOW what happened to Dr.King on that motel balcony. His fate in this world wasn't done in secret and left up for assumption and guess-work. Hoover....on the other hand....we have do wonder and hope he "got his".
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    A Call for Submissions
    for the Killens Review of Arts & Letters
    Spring 2024

    All That We Carry: Where Do We Go From Here?

    Deadline: Friday, December 1, 2023

    The Killens Review of Arts & Letters is a peer-reviewed journal that welcomes Black writers and artists whose work speaks to the general public and to an intergenerational range of readers represented throughout the African diaspora. For the Spring 2024 issue of the Killens Review, we are seeking short stories, essays, creative nonfiction, poetry, art, and photography. Inspired by questions posed by Dr. Tiya Miles, eminent historian and creative writer, and Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., we are soliciting content that reflects how Black creatives from all parts of the world move forward when all around us is in disarray. Specifically, we ask that you submit original writing or art that explores the themes of legacy, memory, inheritance, and/or radical hope (or pessimism), with an orientation toward the future and future generations of Black peoples.

    Application

    https://centerforblackliterature.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/CFP_Killens-Review-Spring-2024.pdf

     

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    Column: How profit-driven turmoil at Turner Classic Movies placed a vast cultural heritage at risk

     

    Michael Hiltzik

    June 29, 2023

     

    It wasn't that long ago that the cause of film preservation and film history seemed to be on a roll. Multiple cable channels such as American Movie Classics, Bravo and Encore were devoted to classic films from the 1930s through the 1980s. When streaming supplanted scheduled cable programming, FilmStruck offered viewers a huge library of classics from the libraries of Warner Bros. and other studios.

    Through it all Turner Classic Movies, or TCM, was the much-admired king. The channel was founded in 1994 by entrepreneur Ted Turner to show the library of MGM classic films he had acquired. It evolved to not only screen classic films but also curate its offerings, providing historical commentaries and interviews presented by knowledgeable hosts.

    All those other services have either disappeared or been repurposed away from classic films. Until a couple of weeks ago, TCM appeared to be one of the sole survivors in the classic movie landscape.

     

    Bruce Goldstein, Film Forum

    But on June 20, David Zaslav, chief executive of TCM's new owner, Warner Bros. Discovery, swung the ax. Layoffs wiped out the network's entire top management, including some figures who had been its leaders for decades. TCM was placed under the supervision of an executive whose other responsibilities included the Adult Swim channel and Cartoon Network.

    The sense of dismay and betrayal that swept across Hollywood was almost indescribable. Film stars and character actors known to millions of fans took to social media to condemn the move. Film directors Steven Spielberg, Paul Thomas Anderson and Martin Scorsese reached out to Zaslav to urge him to back off, advice he seems to have taken, partially.

    The turmoil at TCM points to more than a single company's effort to squeeze as much profit as possible from a single asset. It reflects the impulse by the corporate stewards of America's immense film history to view that culture strictly in commercial terms.

    "Whether Mr. Zaslav planned to or not, he has inherited an American cultural treasure that he is responsible for safeguarding," film historian Alan K. Rode, a director of the Film Noir Foundation, told me. "But he's also trying to run a business that's over $40 billion in debt. I don't know how you square that circle."

     

    This is not a new conundrum. Almost all artifacts of film history are squirreled away in studios' vaults, where they've been subject to the vicissitudes of corporate accounting and the ebb and flow of mergers and acquisitions.

    Occasionally, when they're encouraged by cultural fashions or the appearance of new technologies, the studios have burrowed into their film libraries to assess their marketability and try to untangle ownership rights.

    Some 700 historic Paramount Studios productions, for example, are assumed to be nestled in the vaults of Universal Pictures, which inherited Paramount’s 1930s and 1940s film archive from its forebear MCA, which acquired the collection in 1958. (Universal was later absorbed by NBC and is now a division of the entertainment conglomerate Comcast.)

    The studios don't repurpose their libraries wholesale. Converting old films to digital formats to be screened online or on cable, or shown in theaters equipped with digital projectors, is an expensive and complicated process. Only films thought to have commercial potential get the favored treatment. Most of the others remain largely inaccessible to the public.

    Warner Bros., now absorbed into Warner Bros. Discovery, was long considered the best steward of its cultural hoard. Its Warner Archives division was the industry gold standard in the care and marketing of the past. Under division head George Feltenstein, now the Warner library historian, Warner put thousands of titles, including TV series, on sale as made-to-order DVDs and established a subscription video streaming service that has since been incorporated into the company's Max streaming service.

    Choosing which films to market as DVDs or Blu-ray discs was sometimes an easy call, sometimes a challenge, Feltenstein told me in 2015. “There always will be a place on the retail shelf for ‘Casablanca,’ ‘King Kong’ or ‘Citizen Kane,’” he said. But others required finer judgments or innovative marketing. Warner Bros. still offers DVDs and Blu-rays from its classic and contemporary libraries for sale.

    Classic-film cable and streaming services have tended to have short half-lives. Consider the fate of FilmStruck, which launched as the subscription-based streaming arm of Turner Classic Movies in November 2016 with an inventory of 500 films, including 200 from the classic movie library of the Criterion Collection. FilmStruck quickly became what Esquire termed "the new go-to movie destination for serious movie buffs."

    Two years later, FilmStruck was dead, slain by Warner Bros.' new owner, AT&T, which couldn't wait for the service to grow beyond its base of 100,000 subscribers and reach profitability. For AT&T, as I wrote then, "mass subscribership and profits are the ballgame," patience be damned.

    Other networks that had been founded to cultivate an audience of film fans suffered a similar fate. American Movie Classics was founded in 1984 as a premium cable channel to air classic films uncut and commercial-free. It even sponsored an annual film festival to raise money for film preservation. In 2002 it was rebranded as AMC and refocused on prestige TV. AMC produced "Breaking Bad" and "Mad Men," among other series — good TV, certainly, but not classic films.

    AMC's sister channel, Bravo, was launched in 1980 to present classic foreign and independent films. After NBC bought it in 2002, it was turned into a showcase for reality series.

    Yet audience interest in classic movies and film history continued to grow. "Ten years ago, I felt that we were in kind of a golden age of appreciation of film classics and appreciation, and TCM was a huge part of that," says Bruce Goldstein, the founding repertory artistic director of Film Forum, a New York repertory house. "Now it seems to be falling apart."

     

    TCM and the Criterion Channel remain the go-to streaming destinations for classics. Netflix, am*zon Prime and other networks have minimal classic libraries and no learned curation.

    On the surface, there is no great mystery about why Warner Bros. Discovery and Zaslav might want to draw in their financial horns a bit. The company is laboring under a crippling debt load of more than $49 billion, most of it resulting from the 2022 merger that brought together the cable programming company Discovery and the WarnerMedia division of AT&T, itself the product of AT&T's 2016 takeover of Time Warner.

    Given the combined companies' loss of $7.4 billion on revenue of $33.8 billion last year, plainly something had to give. The question being asked by cultural historians, cinephiles and plain ordinary film fans is why TCM had to be part of the bloodletting. It was reportedly profitable, if not hugely so, but by any measure not a significant factor on the merged company's profit-and-loss landscape.

    That low profile in corporate terms could be TCM's salvation. As my colleague Stephen Battaglio reported, an outcry in the film industry, including by Spielberg, Anderson and Scorsese, has prompted Zaslav to reassess the bludgeoning he visited upon TCM.

    The network's longtime programming chief, Charles Tabesh, who had been fired, will stay on, TCM says. Spielberg, Anderson and Scorsese will have a voice on TCM's curation and scheduling. TCM's classic film festival, held annually in Hollywood, will continue. In a move aimed at quelling outrage in the industry, the network will report directly to Warner Bros. Pictures Group co-heads Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy.

    Those developments generated an optimistic joint statement from Spielberg, Anderson and Scorsese: “We have already begun working on ideas with Mike and Pam, both true film enthusiasts who share a passion and reverence for classic cinema that is the hallmark of the TCM community," the directors said.

    It's impossible to overstate the reverence that film historians and preservationists, and fans, have felt for TCM.

    "They are the keepers of the flame," says Foster Hirsch, a professor of film at Brooklyn College and member of the Film Noir Foundation board. "They're an enormous resource for scholars and writers and fans of all ages. To start tampering with the brand or to view it in terms of marketing and data exclusively is horrifying. It's an assault on our common culture."

    Among TCM's virtues is its eclectic approach. "They didn't show only well-known masterpieces," Hirsch says. "They showed obscure films, some which aren't good, they showed films for almost all tastes, different genres. From an artistic or historical point of view it isn't broken. There was no reason to 'fix' it."

    The network has also been an almost unique portal introducing new generations to film culture. "It's been an essential part of people's film education, especially people of my generation," says Jon Dieringer, 37, founder of Screen Slate, a film culture website. "I grew up watching Turner Classic Movies."

    Yet how assiduously Warner Bros. Discovery will follow through on its stated commitment to TCM's mission remains open to question, as does whether the network can retain its stature in the cinephile community. The confidence that the network's fans had in its staff and hosts and their ability to provide a curated approach to film history has been deeply shaken.

    Many in the film community are hoping that TCM may have suffered nothing more serious than a near-death experience. Whether that's so won't be known for some time. Everyone will be watching, but experience suggests that when public companies pledge to treat the cultural assets under their control as more than generators of cash and profits, it's wise to expect the worst.

     

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-profit-driven-turmoil-turner-120049275.html

     

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    Too many classic films remain buried in studios’ vaults

     

    BY MICHAEL HILTZIKBUSINESS COLUMNIST 

    OCT. 23, 2015 5:48 PM PT

     

    Will McKinley, a New York film writer, is dying to get his hands on a copy of “Alias Nick Beal,” a 1949 film noir starring Ray Milland as a satanic gangster. For classic film blogger Nora Fiore, the Grail might be “The Wild Party” (1929), the first talkie to star 1920’s “It” girl Clara Bow, directed by the pioneering female director Dorothy Arzner. Film critic Leonard Maltin says he’d like to score a viewing of “Hotel Haywire,” a 1937 screwball comedy written by the great comic director Preston Sturges.

    Produced by Paramount Studios, these are all among 700 titles assumed to be nestled in the vaults of Universal Pictures, which inherited Paramount’s 1930s and 1940s film archive from its forebear MCA, which acquired the collection in 1958. They’re frustratingly near at hand but out of reach of film fans and cinephiles.

    Like most of the other major studios, Universal is grappling with the challenging economics of making more of this hoard accessible to the public on DVD, video on demand or streaming video. Studios have come to realize that there’s not only marketable value in the films, but publicity value in performing as responsible stewards of cultural assets.

     

    I would have to break the law to see that film.

    — Cinephile Nora Fiore, of a 1932 classic locked in a studio vault

     

    No studio recognizes these values better than Warner Bros., whose Warner Archives division is the industry gold standard in the care and marketing of the past. The studio sells some 2,300 titles, including TV series, as made-to-order DVDs and offers its own archival video streaming service for a subscription fee of up to $9.99 a month.

    The manufacturing-on-demand service, launched in March 2009 with 150 titles, has proved “far more successful than we even dreamed,” says George Feltenstein, a veteran home video executive who heads the division. “I thought that all the studios would follow in our footsteps, but nobody has been as comprehensive as we’ve been.”

    Other major studios have dipped their toes into this market, if gingerly. Paramount last year stocked a free YouTube channel with 91 of its own titles, mostly post-1949. This month 20th Century Fox announced that as part of its 100th anniversary this year, it would release 100 remastered classic films, including silents, to buy or rent for high-definition streaming — “enough to make any classic film fan weep with joy,” McKinley wrote on his blog. Sony last year introduced a free cable channel, get.tv, to screen films from its Columbia Pictures archive, though it’s only spottily available and often preempted by cable operators.

    Universal offers some manufacture-on-demand titles via am*zon as its Universal Vault Series and announced in May that it would restore 15 of its silent films as part of its 2012 centennial celebration. Curiously, Universal, owned by the cable giant Comcast, is one of the only majors without a dedicated cable channel or Internet streaming service for its archive. Universal spokesperson Cindy Gardner maintains that the studio is working on ways to improve: “Stay tuned.”

    Film buffs and historians have easier access to more classic films than ever before. But that only whets their appetite for important — but perhaps forgotten — films.

     

    The 1932 Paramount World War I drama “Broken Lullaby,” Fiore says, might provoke a reexamination of the career of its director, the master of graceful comedy Ernst Lubitsch. But a version that crept onto YouTube a few years ago was taken down at the insistence of Universal. “I would have to break the law to see that film,” laments Fiore, who blogs on classic films in the guise of the Nitrate Diva.

    “The studios seem to be sitting on a lot of films, but they’re limited by budget and by their projected return on investment,” says Alan Rode, a director of the Film Noir Foundation. “But it’s not like you open a valve and films come gushing out. If they can’t realize a profit on it, they’re not going to do it.”

     

    Adding to the challenge is that some of the major studios have become subsidiaries of large corporations, and not consistently huge profit centers. For example, Paramount last year contributed about 26% of the $13.8 billion in revenue of its parent, Viacom, but its $205 million in operating profit paled next to the $2.4 billion net income recorded by the whole corporation.

    Converting a film title for digital release can be costly, especially under the watchful eye of cinephiles who demand high quality. Some black-and-white titles can be digitized for $40,000 or less, says Jan-Christopher Horak, director of the UCLA Film & Television Archive — with 350,000 titles, the second-largest in the U.S. after only the Library of Congress.

    But the price rises exponentially for color, especially for important restoration. UCLA spent about three years and $1.5 million in donated funds on its heroic restoration and digital transfer of the Technicolor classic “The Red Shoes,” a 1948 backstage ballet drama revered for its beauty.

    That means that when deciding which titles to prepare for digital release, archive managers must walk a tightrope between serving their audience and protecting the bottom line. Some classics are easy calls. “There always will be a place on the retail shelf for ‘Casablanca,’ ‘King Kong’ or ‘Citizen Kane,’” says Warner’s Feltenstein. But finer judgments are required for what Feltenstein calls “the deeper part of the library.”

    “My job is to monetize that content, make it available to the largest number of people possible and do so profitably,” Feltenstein told me. To gauge demand, Feltenstein’s staff keeps lines open with film enthusiasts and historians via Facebook, Twitter, a free weekly podcast and other outreach. “They literally ask us, ‘What do you want to see?’” Fiore says.

    That gives them a window into values that others might miss. Take B-movie westerns made in the 1940s and 1950s that landed in the Warners vault. To Allied Artists and Lorimar, their producers, “these films were worthless and they said it’s OK to let them rot,” Feltenstein says. Instead, Warner Archives packaged them into DVD collections, “and they’ve all been nicely profitable.”

    Feltenstein says Warners is releasing 30 more titles to its manufacturing-on-demand library every month. “It’s growing precipitously and there’s no end in sight.” Universal’s Gardner says there’s “real momentum” at her studio behind “making our titles more available than ever before.”

    But there’s always more beckoning over the horizon. “The good news is that every studio is actively engaged in taking care of its library,” Maltin says. “That’s a big improvement over 20 or 25 years ago. But access is the final frontier.”

    [UPDATE: Nell Minow, whose excellent blog on film can be found at Movie Mom and who is a fan of “Alias Nick Beal,” reports that the title character, played by Ray Milland, is more than merely a “satanic gangster” as we describe him above--he’s Satan.]

    Michael Hiltzik’s column appears every Sunday. His new book is “Big Science: Ernest Lawrence and the Invention That Launched the Military-Industrial Complex.” Read his blog every day at latimes.com/business/hiltzik, reach him at mhiltzik@latimes.com, check out facebook.com/hiltzik and follow @hiltzikm on Twitter.

     

     

    https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-20151025-column.html

     

    https://filmnoirfoundation.tumblr.com/post/706015057231986688/lee-van-cleef-born-on-this-day-in-1925-whats

     

  7. Oh, poor Pioneer. He's gearing up for another childish burp of personal insults. Did some Bible-toting old lady bump into you and make you drop your sex magazines? Listen here, silly. I do not owe you an explanation for anything. Now, let me remind everyone of your greatest hits: In a rant, you declared all Black people should leave southern California because you were still miffed over a jaywalking ticket you received years ago. This was at the tail end of a frenzied polemic from you. Hmmm, tell us. How many Blacks quit their jobs, sold their homes, abandoned their schools and left the region? You also declared that all Black people should give up their religious beliefs and return to the worship of African spirits because this move would wipe away centuries of something akin to bad karma and bring us all prosperity. How many actually did that? The problem with you is your emotions. You think you're a Leader-in-Waiting. But you know what? There's actually a scripture that is so apt for this situation: "But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect." (1st Peter 3:15)
  8. @Pioneer1 Exactly , exactly. The point is whomever is the producer, can override directors /actors or anyone else... the money is in control. I comprehend your point completely. If I was the producer of the upside I still would do what i said. but, in parallel, as producer, if I had five movies that I was certain to finance and begin preproduction in 2024, none would be like the upside. My five would be: 1) a high john the conqueror film[you will not want to produce this] - animation +fantasy 2) a fantasy film concerning ancient nubia- fantasy+history+live action 3) I admit, a science fiction film of my own writing:) 4) a film copying the basic idea of blood syndicate of milestone [you will not finance this film and will probably speak against it in media:) ]- superhero+action 5) and while I don't care to remakes in general. I am a big fan of three the hard way, not a fan of dolemite, so we can co produce, a new three the hard way. action film, live action In things I would like to produce I have preferences. And i prefer, more positive depictions of black people than in the upside than in white produced media. What you have to comprehend is I grew up with positive black images in media. I realize you and most black people sadly didn't, but I did. And I would oppose financing a film where a black billionaire helps a white felon. Not my money. well, to the films that involved black people in the 1970s. first, most of those films were written or directed by whites. I made whole post in this community, But from a fiscal perspective, most were what we will call today independent films. What i think you miss is that as black wealth in the usa increased, the larger studios made black films, but larger studios come with a less genre based style. You talk of three the hard way, that movie wasn't made by paramount or disney or mgm or universal or 20th century fox or columbia pictures. Sweet sweetback independent, distributed by small distributor. Cotton comes to harlem, samuel goldwyn, small producer Shaft which is from a white author which black people seem to not realize, was small too, mgm distributed. but they didn't finance. foxy borwn, american international pictures, again small uptown saturday night produced by first artists cooley high, american international again corn bread earl and me, american international Even the wiz was produced by motown , distributed by universal sparkle was independent like sweetback superfly was independent produced, warner bros distributed. So I hope I proved my point. You speak of the 1970s films usually financed or written by whites that involve black characters, but most of the post 1980s films that have black characters are not produced by small studios, these are major studio films and with that comes a different angle. Major studios are not going to make films like small independent studios. That has always been the truth. And to be blunt, black movie goers, don't help. whereas black movie goers in the 1970s were willing to see superfly. They were not as interested in low budget meteor man I think no less quality than foxy brown but had an epiphany with black panther. So independent films don't resonante with the modern black film going audience as in the 1970s. @ProfD I have been fortunate to learn a little bit about the film industry. The blunt truth is, Oprah/Pioneer or anyone black could produce that movie. I know it could be produced in NYC 100%. 100%. Now would it be circulated in theaters, advertised all over the world? that requires far more money than making the film in a lot of cases. Making films is in parts. Getting the money to finance to make a film is doable, even for black wealth. But getting the movie advertised plus shown is .. expensive. The barbie movie for example, spent more money on the advertisement and campaigns than the movie. And, to the OWN network, well, networks work by advertisers. The OWN network is a poor example to use. But, online their are film hosting sites for nollywood or owned by black people. They could easily host the film. But will it get advertised. Will people buy subscriptions for this one film. I don't know. BUT, the film, black billionaire+ white felon, can be made. Remember, white man's burden 1995 is functionally in the same zone as the film pioneer1 talks about producing. MAking films is not as hard as people think but it is the adveritising, the showing all over the world which is very expensive, really doubles the money and for non special effects laden films, most producers/advertisers/accountants will oppose as the revenue on return is usually calculated as not good enough
  9. And why is that? Because they don't want to see THEIR OWN people being portrayed as monkeys and buffoons before the world. Not at the expense of a Black man. You have your Forest Gumps and others, but even those characters have smart successful White folks in the film to balance off the clowns. Arabs and Indians are the same way. How many riots have started in the Middle East over movies portraying them in a less than flattering way? So then the question is, if THEY know the importance of keeping the White character positive and powerful while the Black actor portrays the negative and powerless..... Then why don't so many of OUR people understand the importance of it? Say what you want to about the Blaxploitation films of the 70s, but atleast the Black characters would kick the ass of the racists while calling him "honky" and then proceed to screw as many Black AND White women as possible....lol. Never losing a fight and always getting away with the bag....lol. Those movies were simple. Sometimes unrealistic. But they FELT GREAT. Brother @richardmurray you want to talk about a "feel good" movie? Go watch a DOLEMITE flick...or Three The Hard Way.....lol. It'll make you feel so GOOOOOOOOOOD to be Black!!!!
  10. richardmurray If you, Pioneer1 are the producer of said film, based on your words, and with the only change left you can make to manipulate kevin hart's characters background, you demand writers make kevin hart a construction worker laid off or college student dropped out, am I correct? your answer in comments please Yes. I would. For a number of reasons....... For one thing, not only do adults watch these movies but BLACK CHILDREN watch them. And children often watch adults in real life as well as in the movies and on television to LEARN THEIR ROLE in society. Just like children learn how to talk, groom themselves, and eat by watching adults do the same.....especially those who look like him.... If all Black boys see on television and in the movies are Black men being criminals, felons, and con artists....psychologically he feels this is telling him this is HIS role in society. He can't picture anything else because that's all he sees when he goes to the movies or turns on the television. White social engineers and psychologists know and understand this; which is why they used to promote Westerns and G.I. Joe soldier toys during WWII and the Vietnam Era. To encourage boys to want to grow up and be soldiers. No sir. If it's just a movie...... If it's artistic fantasy..... Then let's imagine and fantasize what WE want to see.....a successful Black billionaire who stoops down into the gutter and helps a poor ignorant White felon. How about that.....since we wanna play make believe.
  11. An Open Letter from Participants in the Palestine Festival of Literature Ta-Nehisi Coates, Molly Crabapple, Natalie Diaz, Maaza Mengiste, Solmaz Sharif, et al. "We call for the international community to commit to ending the catastrophe unfolding in Gaza and to finally pursuing a comprehensive and just political solution in Palestine." "We are writers and artists who have been to Palestine to participate in the Palestine Festival of Literature. We now call for the international community to commit to ending the catastrophe unfolding in Gaza and to finally pursuing a comprehensive and just political solution in Palestine. We have exercised our privilege as international visitors to move around historic Palestine in ways that most Palestinians are unable to. We have met and been hosted by Palestinian artists, human rights workers, writers, historians, and activists. We have stood on stage with them. Many of these people, including the festival organizers based in Palestine, are in fear for their lives right now. One festival organizer is locked down with their child in Ramallah, sharing updates about the people killed by armed settlers last night. One partner in Gaza, a magazine editor, is no longer answering messages."
  12.  

    First act, a set of educators, i think college are helping a colleague leave but they all have an affinity to this colleague, a curiosity about his nature. I concur with Bixby, real human beings are not alarmist and in this select case, all of these are seasoned educators used to slowly thinking about something, so they wouldn't call the cops or paddy wagon immediately. 

    Why did I not guess the black leather jacket would call someone from outside first. I thought it would be billingly's character the physics or chemistry professor.

    Second act, a female teacher loves him, reminds me of that twilight zone , Long Live Walter JAmeson, by the dead early Charles Beaumont, but extended.

    I love Crude demonstration , hilarious, I am not superman. Loving Tony Todd's acting. 

    27:34 first seeing the ocean

    28:42 he studied with the buddha, and i loved the earlier birth of the vampire myth

    29:06 the first betrayal of character, leather jacket should had considered he think of being outed. Considering he called someone he is either biding time or betraying himself.

    29:38 ahh well done, he was expecting, 

    30:31 i wish i had been here from the beginning, I concur:) 

    32:16 he survived the bubonic plague, typhoid , smallpox

    32:53 good point, being immortal in a cage isn't desired

    33:33 black leather is wrong, common sense isn't insulted by an immortal being, common sense accepts tthe unique is plausible even if it can't not be explained.

    35:19 true Tony todd, but time is also the most precious thing in existence.

    35:52 exactly, the second is a human construct. an algorithmic truth, not assessed from nature.

    36:27 funny moment. slow movie but for those who like to overthink and like dialog fun

    37:21 is he lucky? that is the point of the story

    39:41 exactly, he is outside most of humanity yet still human, a minority of one

    41:46 I love that he didn't go into his past wives or children by the invasive psychiatrist

    42:50 good point, the one great chaotic moment is the "immortal man" chose to even do this. I comprehend the writer's point. It is a random idea in one of many lives. But I must admit, my long lived characters wouldn't do this, unless they wish to be caught or have their cycle of lives undone.

    43:07 he didn't think of these people's feelings before he told them ahhh, i disagree bixby.

    43:37 the psychiatrist, white haired is trying to pull off a guilt trip, i bet he was diagnosed to die soon

    44:50 ahh i knew it was a tragedy, the psychiatrist wife died yesterday
    I love it, permit me to be infantile by myself. 

    46:58 my first wedding :) funny charades

    47:54 this movie clearly couldn't make it in theaters.

    48:48 love his answer to 1292 ad

    50:04 funny, about the primitive tribe in new guinea:)

    51:03 the older woman is a hard core christian

    51:47 no way skipping the biblical figure, and now he wants to call it a night, this is what you get when you ask those who study knowledge about a person who has lived longer than common

    53:10 he is jesus hahaha! 

    53:24 sit down edith, i know 

    54:16 yes, sit down edith, lovely honesity from the biologist about his kin

    54:41 tony todd, modern, that's good:)

    55:29 ahh he is espousing the old belief that jesus learned buddhist ways. it makes sense historically in one way. Buddhism is older than the roman empire, and from the travelers, who were common at that time, labeled magi, who traveled freely in the roman empire because of the might of the roman empire... ok.

    56:41 exactly, Tony Todd, christianity was born from the multiracial roman empire. 

    58:26 good point, buddha /jesus/the christian god, may not be happy 

    59:04 you can tell this was written on bixby's deathbed, a great mortuary story. I wonder what I will write in my last moments.

    59:35 hhahaha, the psychiatrist came back:) haha soul saved:) 

    1:00:00 nice bridge, we don't need to reintroduce the old topics for the psychiatrist, his shame on leaving.

    1:00:53 great joke, nothing unusual in the path of the psychiatrist until the day he met a caveman who thought himself jesus

    1:01:46 piety is the mistake they bring to the lessons haha, he is on a roll, Bixby is enjoying himself in his last days

    1:03:10 thank you biologist, people make to light the influence of drugs, no, if he is taking a drug it isn't making him go up or down be violent or peaceful, it isn't changing him at all

    1:04:20 thank you tony todd, i don't blame you, stay calm and relax.

    1:04:55 exactly, psychiatrist, or the modern mythologies of MLKjr or Adolf Hitler

    1:07:42 Its funny , in a group called african american literary book club, do you know how many black members suggest the usa will be forever? why is that? why is it, black people who knows kemet has all other human communities by thousands of years will be bested by the usa? what are blacks in the usa afraid of?.... 

    1:08:20 how do you know?  I don't smell it. 
    exactly, you know when it will rain , all humans do. 

    1:09:20 etymology, this does happen. words matter.

    1:10:25 good acting, they are all trapped by this story of their colleague

    1:11:00 if edith says you aren't jesus one more time

    1:11:56 edith have broken down , the psychiatrist had to shed light

    1:12:49 the psychiatrist is wrong, he doesn't demand the truth, he demands the lie to keep peace

    1:13:44 he is bluffing, well done, he is giving them safety

    1:14:22 easy tonny todd:) he want to kill him

    1:15:44 it ends safe, well done bixby, he lets the thinkers get off easy

    1:16:25 exactly , the woman who lives him is right. 

    1:17:59 edith knows. she will leave it

    1:18:14 Tony Todd, a latitude in what we call reality... anything is possible
    I am going to watch star trek. and yes, good move tony todd
    Drop me a line whenever

    1:19:34 the psychiatrist found out
    easy psychiatrist , the break down. ahh well done, Bixby, ahh the psychiatrist was a man he knew. 

    1;21:45 exactly, he never saw his own child again.

    1:22:34 yes, let her decide

    hahaha, great hook, who knows, let the viewer decide.

    IN CONCLUSION
    Ok, this movie was fun, but not for the general audience. Alittle careless of him, but that is part of John's humanity, humans even long living one's will make mistakes. 
    I know this is an aside, but i love the credits , they are large enough to see and slow enough to follow, many movies have very uncaring or cheap credits.

    I say, this is a well constructed example of someone long lived revealing themselves in a paraspontaneous way.

    Just thoughtfulness.

    I didn't time index from the begining cause I was watching it side relatives , we do those things in our home, but I am glad my relatives went to watch other things as I could write more specifically and i forgot some points early on:) 

    1. Troy

      Troy

      Wow that was some report.  
       

      i just brought a book which included a short story by Bixby

    2. richardmurray

      richardmurray

      @Troy thank you, I am used to this, when I read books or listen to music or watch movies I am paying this kind of attention, part of it is how I was raised with art, my two black parents didn't blockade any art from me but also showed interest so it taught me to treat all art that way, while on the other side, as an artists always trying to learn, I want to see if I can decipher messages ideas and how they are executed in the work. 

       

      enjoy the book and definitely share your thoughts:) 

  13. Sammy Davis Interview

     

     

    TRANSCRIPT

    0:00
    4 scene 22 take 33 psalm 22.
    0:13
    damn
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    [Music]
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    went into the army
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    you know that that horrible
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    that was my first taste really of racism
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    you know ever because I never been
    0:40
    exposed to it being in Show Business you
    0:41
    know
    0:42
    you know you'd run into the average bit
    0:44
    of it but not them not enough to to
    0:45
    upset you or anything you know or not
    0:48
    even to be aware because I'm in show
    0:49
    business so I wasn't aware of it and as
    0:51
    a kid being in Show Business you I
    0:53
    didn't learn until later the about why
    0:55
    we slept in bus stations and why we had
    0:57
    to go to the police and say where's
    0:58
    there
    0:59
    a colored family that you can stay with
    1:01
    because you couldn't get in the hotels
    1:02
    and things like that you couldn't eat in
    1:04
    this restaurant
    1:05
    but there was a very close fraternity
    1:08
    between most of the black and white
    1:11
    performers at that time
    1:13
    uh that doesn't exist today what were
    1:17
    some specific examples when you started
    1:20
    first getting the message
    1:21
    well I think the the first real thing
    1:23
    that I got was in the Army when I you
    1:25
    know and I was in basic training and I
    1:28
    hadn't even gone to basic training I
    1:29
    went in San Francisco we went to the
    1:31
    Presidio Monterey and the third day I
    1:33
    was standing in line and this is before
    1:36
    um desegregation came in the Army you
    1:38
    know uh and I'm standing in line and at
    1:42
    the at this place where there was black
    1:43
    and white soldiers and the cat said you
    1:46
    know
    1:47
    where I come from [ __ ] you know
    1:48
    staring in the back or they they ain't
    1:50
    here I forget the exact line now and I
    1:53
    had my my duffel bag and I'm a duffel
    1:56
    bag but you know the thing like use the
    1:57
    carry of Shaving equipment in and I just
    1:59
    sundied him you know
    2:01
    and knocked him down and had cut his lip
    2:04
    and he's bleeding from the lid and he
    2:06
    said
    2:08
    okay you knock me down but you still a
    2:09
    [ __ ]
    2:12
    and that laid with me you know because
    2:14
    that that's that's so
    2:17
    so venomous it really is you know that
    2:20
    that's the kind of cat that you ain't
    2:22
    gonna never reach
    2:23
    were there some points at which you
    2:26
    during that time when you had a lot of
    2:29
    pressures on you almost lost confidence
    2:31
    in yourself
    2:33
    oh well I that happened to me but not
    2:35
    until I made it really because you know
    2:37
    when you when you're hungry and you're
    2:39
    trying to get there that's one thing
    2:41
    because you've got that ambition that
    2:43
    feeds on and you keep crawling on your
    2:46
    ambition to get there I got there until
    2:48
    I lost control of everything
    2:51
    sense of values uh
    2:53
    now I've got the doll so wound up
    2:56
    there was no relaxing there was there
    2:58
    was no being aware of anything first of
    3:00
    all there was not much to be aware of
    3:01
    anyway in those days
    3:04
    but I mean the nominal awareness that
    3:06
    wasn't there I was just wrapped up in me
    3:09
    then then I got scared because I started
    3:12
    to lose what I thought was the basic
    3:14
    human instinct that I had had
    3:17
    and I got too phony I did oh I did it
    3:19
    all man I invented some
    3:21
    the ones that in the book I invented
    3:23
    some other problems you know but
    3:26
    I you know again to relate to what you
    3:29
    are I said today and I look back 25
    3:32
    years ago and I say wow I don't think I
    3:35
    my head would be where it is now if I
    3:38
    had not gone through that
    3:40
    25 years ago all the mistakes being on
    3:43
    all the time
    3:45
    emulating in truth emulating the white
    3:48
    stars not trying to get my own identity
    3:52
    but because that that was the kick then
    3:54
    you know that's what you had to do so I
    3:58
    decided if you got to do it then I'd do
    3:59
    it better than anybody else had ever
    4:00
    done it
    4:01
    you know in other words when I started
    4:03
    to do Impressions and all of that kind
    4:04
    of stuff relating to a theatrical thing
    4:06
    being on Broadway and Mr Wonderful you
    4:09
    know I wanted to do all that because I
    4:11
    figured if Donald O'Connor can do it man
    4:13
    I'm gonna do it
    4:14
    so in other words I was becoming a black
    4:17
    Donald O'Connor a black Mickey Rooney
    4:19
    instead of becoming a black Sammy Davis
    4:21
    what about the Rat Pack era you and
    4:25
    Sinatra and let me light a cigarette and
    4:27
    I'll tell you okay
    4:32
    I keep thinking uh just a few days
    4:36
    [Music]
    4:38
    no longer will it be anything happening
    4:40
    like it should be the one traffic ticket
    4:42
    that's the first step to maybe in 20
    4:44
    years is not to legalize it right now
    4:46
    when they legalized marijuana
    4:50
    but I'm just comedically I'm thinking
    4:52
    when they legalize it they will be back
    4:55
    to commercials again
    4:59
    [Music]
    5:13
    [Music]
    5:18
    [Music]
    5:30
    and plus but the most important thing is
    5:32
    you'd never be able to run through the
    5:34
    forest
    5:41
    thank you
    5:43
    what about the Rat Pack era
    5:49
    was that a part of your mistakes
    5:51
    well let me tell you about let me tell
    5:53
    you about the Sinatra thing
    5:56
    uh
    5:57
    if it hadn't been for Frank Sinatra
    6:00
    I don't I would have never been in films
    6:02
    really
    6:03
    because he gave me uh
    6:07
    he gave me a an opportunity
    6:09
    in three pictures
    6:13
    based upon the fact that there was
    6:14
    nothing to do really except the fact
    6:16
    that it we got the job because we were
    6:17
    all friends and buddies and it was based
    6:19
    upon a camaraderie that we had as a
    6:22
    bunch of guys as performers that Frank
    6:24
    said why don't we do all do a picture
    6:26
    together
    6:27
    but he so he helped my career
    6:29
    tremendously again my own personal
    6:32
    involvement being such that I became so
    6:35
    involved with that lifestyle
    6:38
    that again I found myself submerging
    6:41
    into a lifestyle that I could not equate
    6:43
    with after you'd leave the party you
    6:45
    come home and you're going to
    6:47
    and you say wow man it sure was nice to
    6:49
    be in the company of all them big names
    6:50
    and the movie star
    6:52
    but there was no
    6:54
    on one hand I I loved being with my
    6:57
    friends
    6:58
    but it was submerging me as a human
    7:00
    being I think as I analyze it now
    7:03
    and there were Beautiful Moments during
    7:05
    that period of the 60s the early 60s and
    7:08
    there was some frightening moments I
    7:09
    remember walking on the stage at the
    7:11
    Democratic Convention and being booed by
    7:13
    the southern contingent you know
    7:16
    because they had no business the only
    7:17
    reason they booed me was because I was
    7:19
    married to a white woman you know to put
    7:21
    it right where it's at that's why they
    7:22
    boom boom hits how dare you be married
    7:25
    to a white woman you know
    7:27
    but it was
    7:28
    a part of conversation privately and
    7:31
    publicly is that uh you were married to
    7:33
    a white woman how do you feel about that
    7:36
    how would you advise a young black
    7:38
    person your son about marrying a white
    7:41
    woman
    7:42
    I think a person should marry who they
    7:43
    want to marry man
    7:45
    I think that you can be committed to
    7:47
    your people to the cause whatever you
    7:49
    whatever the terminology you want to use
    7:51
    doesn't matter matter who you're married
    7:53
    to if you fall in love you fall in love
    7:55
    if you're if you're getting I don't
    7:57
    think anyone gets married has children
    7:59
    and the rest
    8:00
    to do a three cheating job you know
    8:03
    and uh
    8:05
    to me
    8:07
    I feel no thing about it I really don't
    8:11
    I really don't feel anything about that
    8:13
    because I think that's so damn private
    8:16
    man
    8:16
    that has to do with what I want a cat to
    8:19
    do if it's a brother on the corner
    8:20
    whatever it is look at me and say what
    8:23
    did you do today to help
    8:24
    don't talk about my private life
    8:27
    that's mine that if you know if I want
    8:30
    to marry a dog that's my life
    8:33
    this is the point whatever I had I paid
    8:35
    my dues to get it
    8:38
    and I mean pay them
    8:40
    in every way you want to talk about but
    8:43
    what I'm but that's professionally
    8:45
    that's as a human being on a
    8:47
    professional level but as a human being
    8:48
    period I tell my kids Harry who you want
    8:52
    to marry
    8:53
    now I know this sure as I'm sitting on
    8:55
    this floor man whole bunch of brothers
    8:58
    and sisters don't like me there's a
    9:00
    whole bunch of white people that don't
    9:01
    like me why do you feel there's a group
    9:03
    of brothers and sisters who don't like
    9:05
    you because there was a whole bunch of
    9:07
    brothers and sisters that didn't like
    9:08
    Jesus Christ that's why
    9:11
    and ain't nobody ever been put on this
    9:12
    Earth that everybody liked
    9:14
    they don't kill Martin Luther King the
    9:16
    only thing he kept singing was we shall
    9:17
    overcome and love and peace killed him
    9:19
    wiped him out killed Malcolm
    9:23
    wiped out everybody man don't you
    9:25
    understand and some cat hired three
    9:29
    black cats to wipe out the man who was
    9:31
    the mother of our time and when they
    9:33
    killed him he had a half a church full
    9:35
    of people it wasn't like it was packed
    9:37
    and jammed because already he was losing
    9:42
    and he says it himself if you read his
    9:44
    works that there's a whole bunch of
    9:46
    [ __ ] that don't like me black folks
    9:48
    like me but not the [ __ ]
    9:51
    which is true and three black cat three
    9:55
    [ __ ] knocked him off
    9:57
    paid by white establishment that's my
    9:59
    feeling and I will feel this as long as
    10:01
    I live
    10:02
    and it was afterwards at the the
    10:04
    Resurgence of this man and suddenly we
    10:07
    became aware of all the things that he
    10:08
    was saying because as long as doesn't it
    10:12
    strike you funny that as long as
    10:16
    Malcolm was preaching separatism
    10:20
    as long as he was preaching such
    10:23
    vehemence he never got hurt at all it
    10:26
    was when he came back from Mecca and he
    10:28
    said we must all live together we must
    10:29
    we must ask black people do our thing
    10:31
    but we must all live on this Earth as
    10:34
    one blah blah that's when he started
    10:36
    getting his house bombed
    10:38
    he got wiped out months later
    10:40
    same thing with King as long as King was
    10:42
    hitting the March as they put him in
    10:44
    jail that was it as soon as he started
    10:45
    talking about Vietnam
    10:47
    and the workers and this that and the
    10:49
    other getting out of his field of
    10:52
    reference
    10:53
    really
    10:55
    heavy too heavy for somebody wipe him
    10:57
    out
    10:59
    you know and it's frightening to me so
    11:01
    that's why I say a lot of people will
    11:03
    not like any performer and you try to
    11:06
    relate
    11:07
    as far I'm not talking about relating in
    11:09
    terms of oh hi bra and do the Fist and
    11:12
    whatever it is and hey man right on I'm
    11:14
    not talking about the words I'm talking
    11:15
    about in your heart relating to what the
    11:17
    problems are
    11:18
    but the society in which we live in
    11:19
    today it has gotten to a point where you
    11:21
    cannot do that anymore based upon the
    11:24
    fact that I must do what I feel
    11:26
    if I feel that I I want to help in this
    11:29
    area I try to do it and I try to do it
    11:31
    Sans publicity not based upon the fear
    11:34
    that I have for my job
    11:36
    but I think that sometimes if I want to
    11:38
    help some brothers who are in trouble my
    11:40
    lending my name to it defeats the very
    11:44
    purpose that they're trying to achieve
    11:48
    but money is money
    11:50
    heart is heart you should lend your
    11:52
    heart and your money you ain't got the
    11:54
    money
    11:56
    then lend this lend your body man to it
    11:59
    you know but I'm talking about I think
    12:01
    that if the performer can be used
    12:05
    than he should be used
    12:08
    to put my obligation into black positive
    12:11
    things I'm not talking about National
    12:12
    organizations it can be something that's
    12:14
    happening on the corner a project that
    12:16
    because I found out and Walter Mason can
    12:19
    tell you we found out that you go into a
    12:22
    town
    12:23
    and sometimes it's as little as a
    12:25
    hundred dollars because you go to an
    12:28
    area where this where where some
    12:30
    projects are and they got a recreation
    12:31
    center ain't got no pool table ain't got
    12:33
    no records to play so the kids don't go
    12:35
    there they hang on the car right
    12:37
    Jesus you walk in and you look around
    12:40
    and you say hey well I know I get a pool
    12:42
    table and I know I can get the record
    12:44
    player and I'll get reprise at that time
    12:47
    or my own company to send records you're
    12:50
    in a privileged situation first of all
    12:52
    uh I can't help but make an analogy
    12:54
    between yourself and lean a horn
    12:55
    I mean the two of you are for lack of a
    12:58
    better phrase are superstars are using
    13:00
    to some extent your sense of commitment
    13:04
    you uh you're evolving a new sense of
    13:06
    self and most importantly like you're
    13:09
    going in front of the nation and you're
    13:11
    saying I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm
    13:13
    relating to my people
    13:15
    I'm not going to use anybody's name but
    13:17
    I'm sure you won't but where are the
    13:19
    heads of a lot of the black Superstars
    13:21
    we don't see them like we see you in
    13:23
    Philadelphia with the street gangs we
    13:25
    don't see them saying what Lena said in
    13:28
    terms of what's happened to her well I I
    13:30
    think
    13:32
    I think the phonies
    13:34
    that's what I think and the bitter irony
    13:37
    of it all is
    13:39
    that
    13:40
    again I have to sit by man and watch
    13:44
    these people be lauded by our brothers
    13:46
    and sisters in the streets
    13:49
    and they and the brothers and sisters
    13:50
    must be aware
    13:52
    that they ain't doing nothing
    13:54
    but it took me a long time to get there
    13:55
    maybe they maybe my brother brothers and
    13:57
    sisters who are superstars need that
    13:58
    kind of time and there are many who say
    14:00
    I don't want to get involved in it
    14:02
    but I don't know how you cannot get
    14:04
    involved in it because they are first of
    14:06
    all black and they are committed
    14:08
    whether they want to be committed or not
    14:10
    the very nature of the skin commits you
    14:12
    I don't read a script that I don't weigh
    14:15
    and say I wonder what the brother and
    14:17
    the con is going to think about this
    14:20
    how can I change it if it's wrong
    14:23
    because the black performer again has
    14:25
    that obligation
    14:27
    that we are black performers
    14:30
    and so therefore I'm not talking about
    14:32
    you gonna come out every time man and do
    14:35
    a number because like on Laugh-In
    14:38
    you know I do jokes but somewhere along
    14:41
    the line I've got to relate to what's
    14:43
    really happening
    14:44
    somewhere so that the brother who's
    14:47
    watching me who may not necessarily buy
    14:49
    my records
    14:50
    may not go to my movies may not come to
    14:53
    the Copa the Sands Hotel lassimi will
    14:56
    say yeah
    14:58
    in a bar or in his house yeah
    15:01
    that's all that's my thanks but the
    15:04
    black audience
    15:06
    owes that black performer an obligation
    15:08
    of watching and supporting him unless he
    15:10
    turns out to be really the rat of all
    15:13
    time
    15:15
    but I mean when I say rap I mean he's
    15:17
    not doing anything he's doing things
    15:19
    that embarrass the the black population
    15:23
    now I know a lot of people don't like
    15:24
    flips doing the the Deacon I've heard a
    15:27
    lot of talk about it Geraldine Geraldine
    15:29
    they don't like uh I now my personal
    15:32
    things I think geraldine's funny I feel
    15:34
    a little funny about the deacon
    15:36
    because I think that's going back to
    15:37
    something that's so deeply rooted in
    15:39
    black people
    15:40
    religiously you know that I think that
    15:43
    that does this to me but I think it's
    15:45
    still funny because I'm looking at it
    15:46
    again through one eye that looks
    15:49
    in two directions first as a performer
    15:52
    is it funny is it clever secondly as a
    15:55
    man we're trying to relate to the cat on
    15:57
    the corner again you understand what I
    15:58
    mean because first and foremost I'm a
    16:01
    performer that's all I've ever done all
    16:02
    my life
    16:03
    so I know he's got to weigh it but what
    16:06
    do you do
    16:07
    you've got to have the support of your
    16:09
    people
    16:10
    but geez I just love saying that number
    16:13
    one variety show in the country now and
    16:16
    start in by a black man who is very very
    16:20
    funny but Amos and Andy was funny don't
    16:24
    do that to me don't do that
    16:27
    and Geraldine is funny and uh the Deacon
    16:31
    is funny but can you move forward you
    16:33
    know at at the level of the struggle we
    16:36
    are for Liberation yeah you know came
    16:38
    before to continually uh entertain white
    16:41
    people with shows produced by white men
    16:44
    with a frame of reference of what we are
    16:46
    I mean that's not defining ourselves and
    16:49
    the role of the Entertainer
    16:51
    to some extent has to accommodate that
    16:54
    relevant I think that the Amos Amanda
    16:56
    was funny I was embarrassed by it I
    16:58
    signed the letters too you know but I I
    17:00
    say that I think at this point now we've
    17:02
    got more stars than we've ever had
    17:04
    before that I can afford the luxury
    17:07
    because in place of Geraldine and then
    17:10
    place a Flip Wilson I have Don Knotts
    17:14
    since you both guess no baby I was out
    17:17
    of town you know I haven't had a chance
    17:19
    to live a boat here okay so what you
    17:21
    think of the terrible cat dead man
    17:27
    we are like
    17:29
    in one sense limited because we will
    17:33
    never have the audience of a commercial
    17:36
    Channel but do you want that audience
    17:38
    I'd like to have that audience on the
    17:40
    other hand if getting that audience
    17:43
    necessitated compromising our principles
    17:46
    I know they have ten Brothers
    17:48
    out of the 200 million people in this
    17:51
    country watch this show yeah then they
    17:53
    have the 200 million people in this
    17:55
    country watch the show even because I
    17:57
    think being irrelevant is
    17:58
    counterproductive you know and and that
    18:00
    brings me to the next point
    18:02
    uh you have a show
    18:05
    that
    18:06
    folded
    18:09
    and that's when I think like what you
    18:13
    said you were in another era
    18:15
    you're being very kind yeah
    18:18
    I was a stone rock and you could be for
    18:21
    free yeah what would you do I mean I
    18:24
    don't know but I would I tell you what I
    18:26
    wouldn't do or maybe by that you can get
    18:28
    a clue I certainly wouldn't do nothing
    18:29
    more than I'm doing as an entertainer
    18:31
    today in other words I ain't gonna let
    18:33
    them change me last time out I let him
    18:35
    put me in suits I couldn't smoke I
    18:37
    couldn't say what I wanted to say and
    18:39
    though I put a lot of people to work and
    18:40
    I did a lot of things and all of that
    18:42
    and I changed a lot of policies at NBC
    18:44
    you know when they catch and went yeah
    18:47
    because you know I walked into the
    18:48
    publicity office one day I didn't see no
    18:49
    black people I said I don't understand
    18:50
    this it looks like the Lilies of the
    18:52
    white Fields you know and that was it
    18:54
    and the guy went oh he's very bitter and
    18:56
    I went well the hell with it I am very
    18:58
    bitter if I got it I gotta surround
    18:59
    myself with people that I know of and
    19:01
    we've got capable brothers and sisters
    19:02
    to do it now you go up there and be
    19:04
    seeing it's packed and jammed and the
    19:05
    executives are there you know but the
    19:07
    only thing that they are
    19:11
    you know
    19:15
    the most relevant thing I think I was
    19:18
    able to do was near the end of the
    19:20
    series I did a sketch
    19:21
    with nipsy Russell
    19:24
    about how brothers treat Brothers
    19:27
    and I did a very Bourgeois cat going in
    19:29
    to apply for a job right
    19:31
    and very Bourgeois with the three button
    19:33
    code as soon as he found out it was a
    19:35
    brother
    19:36
    he took his head on each other
    19:39
    right and the cat's baggies to send him
    19:41
    in and the cat walked in he said damn
    19:43
    hey babe that ain't the way he walked in
    19:46
    the White Secretary was there seeing he
    19:47
    said I'm I'm here for the job and I like
    19:50
    to apply I've been okayed and I went
    19:51
    through the IBM machines blah blah blah
    19:54
    talked very problem as soon as he went
    19:55
    in there instead of identifying and
    19:57
    saying Hey I want a groove it is to see
    19:59
    you in this position he didn't do that
    20:00
    he just put his feet up on the desert
    20:02
    dead go ahead and sign that
    20:05
    you know I'm straight
    20:08
    you know and suddenly here's the brother
    20:10
    sitting there trying to do something and
    20:12
    he is not protected and it was a funny
    20:13
    sketch and we loved doing it I got such
    20:16
    complaints from NBC you would not
    20:18
    believe and we never were to do another
    20:19
    one because I think we went through a
    20:21
    period where we were just pleased to see
    20:23
    a black guy there
    20:25
    yeah
    20:26
    there we are
    20:28
    there we are we in there because we
    20:30
    needed that at that period now we've got
    20:32
    to go on
    20:33
    further
    20:35
    you know what I mean and it's not just
    20:37
    seeing the black cat there anymore
    20:39
    you know it's like the guys I will
    20:42
    believe till I die that when the
    20:44
    pressure came on the Madison Avenue and
    20:46
    they said you got to put black people
    20:47
    into commercials they said we'll show
    20:50
    them black people in a commercial so
    20:51
    they put them in the commercials where
    20:53
    black people look ludicrous in
    20:56
    you know because everybody has a white
    20:58
    neighbor
    20:59
    you very rarely see two black women
    21:02
    talking
    21:03
    and if they're black women talking
    21:05
    they're not the sisters
    21:08
    it's Bourgeois middle class you know
    21:11
    straight hair no dues never a dude ever
    21:14
    never do you know can't look like Gloria
    21:16
    Foster no chance you know you must look
    21:19
    like you know the old days of of tan
    21:22
    confessions you know and that's it
    21:24
    and I look and I say it on the stage
    21:26
    sometimes I say it's ridiculous because
    21:29
    it doesn't relate to anything
    21:35
    you wearing a free Angela button have
    21:37
    you had any reaction from other people
    21:39
    as a result of wearing that button well
    21:41
    that was a fan of mine
    21:43
    in the restaurant and uh
    21:46
    was at the risk around the airport and
    21:48
    the guy walked up and asked my autograph
    21:50
    and he was white and he said Jay the
    21:53
    wife gets a big kick out of here when is
    21:55
    he on the laughing and all that sign us
    21:59
    for the kitties you know and I signed it
    22:01
    and he said I was wondering if and he
    22:03
    started staring at the button and I was
    22:04
    wearing you know this but and he was
    22:06
    going like this and he kept saying I was
    22:08
    I was and he was trying to focus on it
    22:10
    because I I was blowing his bubble
    22:13
    because they have
    22:15
    an image of me I guess of another kind
    22:18
    my involvement with Angela is again the
    22:22
    Injustice of it all
    22:24
    uh her political beliefs you know are
    22:26
    her own
    22:28
    I don't share her political beliefs I
    22:30
    share her blackness
    22:32
    and I share the Injustice to any black
    22:35
    person and there's no way that she's
    22:36
    going to get the right kind of trial we
    22:38
    know that
    22:39
    it's stacked against it
    22:41
    uh they made her the Most Wanted woman
    22:44
    since uh Bonnie of Bonnie and Clyde and
    22:49
    I think that if a guy like myself wears
    22:51
    a button
    22:52
    that's letting somebody in that crowd
    22:54
    that I go around with know where my
    22:55
    head's at
    22:57
    you're now married to a sister
    22:59
    is she I didn't I didn't know that
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    and it's so groovy and so nice I've been
    23:21
    in the hospital five times
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    I think he's trying to tell me so
    23:34
    I'm absolutely
    23:36
    you know flabbergasted by the by the
    23:39
    fact that we as a people almost without
    23:42
    the underground which they keep saying
    23:44
    we've got and everything else around the
    23:46
    ground as a soul underground you know
    23:48
    don't take no trains or nothing this
    23:51
    something happens it's it's the same
    23:53
    thing compared to
    23:54
    as soon as downtown gets the dance we've
    23:57
    gone on to another one and nobody ever
    24:00
    told us that they got it and we didn't
    24:03
    care about it but when they get funky
    24:04
    chicken we're into something else
    24:06
    uh there's something else you know it's
    24:08
    the thing that we have that ain't no
    24:09
    other people got in the world
    24:12
    it's that immediate eye to eye contact
    24:15
    that says
    24:17
    jamf
    24:19
    horse that says
    24:21
    yeah
    24:23
    that's that same thing again that one
    24:25
    word yeah
    24:27
    and you know and it's not followed by
    24:29
    he's down right on but really just yeah
    24:33
    you feel that we can solve our problem
    24:34
    by having some type of army or some type
    24:38
    of violent confrontation with whites
    24:41
    no
    24:43
    you know ain't no way you can put poor
    24:45
    Cadillacs against the tank
    24:48
    two Rusty raises
    24:50
    you know against an M1
    24:52
    and the flame throw against a bottle of
    24:55
    Coca-Cola with a rag in it ain't no way
    24:57
    you can do that
    25:01
    how is it that you're free enough uh to
    25:04
    talk the way you're talking and be an
    25:06
    Entertainer
    25:07
    because you know
    25:09
    the rationale is that if I'm black and
    25:11
    an Entertainer I can't be too involved
    25:13
    with black causes and survive in an
    25:16
    industry controlled basically by white
    25:18
    people how are you free enough let's say
    25:20
    to come on black journal and relate to
    25:22
    the brothers and sisters the Way You Are
    25:24
    but I I think
    25:27
    that it's called
    25:29
    a respect for one's opinion
    25:31
    because I've had too many white people
    25:33
    talk to me and say I
    25:35
    I don't like what you said on the David
    25:36
    Frost show about something such a thing
    25:39
    well you but you shared a lot of guts to
    25:41
    say it
    25:44
    and the other point is which is very
    25:46
    very good man
    25:48
    I really don't care I don't give it
    25:52
    when I say this is a racist society in
    25:55
    which we live in everybody knows it is
    25:58
    that ain't no that ain't no big big
    26:00
    statement to make it maybe it's shocking
    26:03
    to hear it from someone that you just
    26:04
    watched the night before on laughing uh
    26:07
    but it is man I can't say well how can
    26:10
    you say that white and black say this to
    26:11
    me how can you say that man you got it
    26:13
    made I said I Got It Made because I had
    26:15
    to fight all of that but I then owe an
    26:17
    obligation to my brothers and my sisters
    26:19
    to let them know
    26:21
    that it existed then it still exists now
    26:24
    and I've been here for 40 years you know
    26:27
    I've got the house I've got a wife I've
    26:29
    got children I've got success
    26:32
    and now it is time for me to try in
    26:36
    every way feasible
    26:38
    to help
    26:39
    the plight of my people
    26:41
    and to gain our freedom because I'm see
    26:45
    the fallacy is man and let's let me say
    26:47
    this and and I really mean it from the
    26:49
    bottom of my heart
    26:50
    money don't make you free
    26:52
    popularity don't make you free
    26:55
    don't you know that
    26:58
    you know sure I live in Beverly Hills
    27:00
    but I'm Shackled by the same things that
    27:01
    happen to the brother and Watts
    27:06
    I've had my bosses say to me
    27:09
    cats that I work for
    27:11
    who you know really basically give me a
    27:15
    Jack Entrada will say to me Sam geez
    27:17
    that was a little heavy statement you
    27:19
    said on that I said but it's true ain't
    27:20
    it Jack he said yeah I know it's true
    27:22
    but I said Butcher and that's the end of
    27:24
    that
    27:25
    I mean that man and my cousin did I say
    27:29
    it like it is man I've been the last
    27:31
    five years
    27:33
    go away
    27:39
    thank you
    27:40
    because he's got to respect me it's like
    27:42
    when a brother comes to me and says but
    27:43
    man you're a Jew
    27:45
    you know I look at him and say what's
    27:46
    your religion and he says I'm a Baptist
    27:49
    or I don't have one or I'm a Muslim I
    27:51
    said well our religion is blackness
    27:55
    because if we ever get to the point
    27:57
    where we started talking about he's a
    27:58
    black Jew he's a black Catholic he's a
    28:00
    black Baptist he's a black Muslim really
    28:03
    saved for the titles that the papers put
    28:04
    on people then we're in trouble our real
    28:07
    religion and the thing that connects us
    28:08
    all is our blackness
    28:10
    the religion of Blackness that's it
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    God
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  14. ProfD I agree with you that everyone should have the OPPORTUNITY to have their basic needs met. I think the government should offer basic food, clothing, healthcare, and shelter to EVERYONE. Basic level. And go from there depending on people's needs such as -whether or not they have children -whether or not they have a disability the prevents them from working -whether or not they are elderly What people do with that opportunity should be up to them, but atleast PROVIDE it for them so there'll be no excuse. It should be a GUARANTEED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT of every person regardless of race, sex, or ethnicity. I agree with this 100% However until we get this....Black people should be allowed to generate and accumulate wealth the best way we can as long as they are depriving OTHER Black people of wealth and resources. Now if they're getting rich off the blood and suffering of other Black folks....NO. Absolutely not. That's why I don't support the Black warlord or drug dealer. But as far as some of these politicians and actors....if White folks are just GIVING them wealth for their entertainment or to hold TOKEN political positions. And especially if they are threatened with the possibility that if THEY don't want that position....White folks will remove them and put another Black person in it and the show will still go on. They better TAKE IT and keep their mouth shut until a better idea comes to mind! It looks good in the movies, but running your mouth to power and sacrificing your wealth for the masses doesn't always have the outcome you expect. Sometimes some of the very people you're fighting and sacrificing for not only don't appreciate what you're doing for them but will even call you a fool to your face for denying yourself. Like when James Evans found the money and turned it in to the police instead of keeping it....lol. Niggas were throwing all types of dummy dolls in his apartment and sending him crazy phone calls for that dummy move....lol
  15. My thoughts to the article below

     

    I quote < “The other show is kind of mean and too grown up for me.”
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    her son said a show is to grown up for him:)  How does a child know what  defines grown up when many grown up don't. Know if he would had said what his mother will not like,that shows honesty.

    I quote < what does it say that it is so much easier for my son to find wonderfully crafted television shows and films featuring talking animals than it is to find shows about kids who look like him? >
    It says that Black people with money aren't willing to spend their money to make cartoons for black people. It says that Black people had less money in the past and white people financed cartoons to be made for white people, which is perfectly acceptable. It says that Black parents need to focus on books with rearing their  kids as a ton of content has existed that has human black characters. It says white people around the world who may be asian or muslim or latino is a larger market and satisfactory. It says Black people need to tell their children they are willing to suck a white persons penis or lick a white persons vagina for opportunities but opportunities are not meant to be shared or made universal. It says that Black people from black countries like Uganda didn't use their control to make media in Uganda or other black countries that black people globally need. 

    I quote < “But where are the cartoons, Mom?” he asked. “And why does the story have to be so sad with people dying?” > 
    What the author of the article the black mom was unwilling to simply say is white people wrote most of the films, live action or television, that she cites and sequentially, their themes. But, again, a Black one percent exist, they are billionaires or millionaires. She needs to tell her son, rich black people aren't spending their money on financing black cartoons. That is why ? and asking non blacks to make media for black people is unwarranted, and non blacks don't have to care about blacks. 

    I quote < Where are the happy carefree storylines for young Black kids that white kids get? Where is the diversity of storyline and personality and genre representation that white kids get? > 
    Pick up a book, they are out there.  And again where are the black rich. Where is Oprah's money? where is Tyler Perry's studios? 

    I quote < I find it very telling that the first animated Disney movie featuring a Black woman main character and the first animated Disney movie to feature a Black man character as leads are written in such a way that both of these main characters spend a large part of their respective films in bodies that are neither Black nor even human. > 
    Yes, White people finance media for white people. As DW Griffith said, when the NAACP boycotted Birth of a nation, anyone can make whatever film they want. The NAACP wouldn't spend money on making a film as a rebuttal as if teh white jews who financed the organization would do that. But, Oscar Mischeux made films in reply. So where are the Oscar Micheaux Black directors. Comprehend, Spike Lee tells similar stories of Blac plight than disney so...

    I quote < What does it say to Black kids watching when the world’s biggest children’s entertainment company cannot give them even one animated film that features a Black person that stays a Black person throughout? What does this say about Blackness to kids who are not Black? About whose life is being portrayed as mattering? And whose does not? > 
    It says to Black kids their Black parents are stupid telling them white people will change by black merit. It says to Black kids  their Black parents don't have the power, money isn't always power, to provide them with what they need. It tells non Black kids how impotent the black community is wherever they live, which is the truth. It tells non black kids to make sure they emphasize their non black community so that it isn't like the impotent black community. It says to Black kids their black parents are lying when they talk about a human family. All humans are human but that does mean all humans are family and that is ok. 

    I quote  < When will Disney make a film with Black characters played by Black characters? Why is this so damn hard? > 
    Maybe never and that is ok. Disney was started by a white artists as an independent company. So when will Black artists who are fortunate enough to get financing for films do likewise. Black people did create BET which was a black owned media outlet but sold it to whites. So, why complain about Disney? when Oscar Micheaux proved independent movies can be made. B.E.T. proves Black people with money undercut their own community. Disney is not obliged to give concern to black people. Why are Black people with money financing what the Black community need so damn hard? It isn't like Black people with money only send people to traditional black colleges so...

    I quote < Or does Disney’s refusal to create an animated movie with Black characters who stay Black characters go beyond these three films that traffic in stereotypes and erasure and speak to larger institutional issues regarding perceptions of Blackness that behoove attention? > 
    Institutional issues? no. Disney is a white owned firm that is free to sell to all phenotypes. If non whites absorb or dream of disney , they are the fools. Don't blame disney for black people pushing disney on black children or not rearing black children better, better meaning to media that has black created content, which has always existed.

    I quote < It matters, where imagination begins in the mind. It matters whether that mind can imagine full Black personhood, or if that imagination is still constrained by unconscious bias and internalized stereotypes.> 
    Yes this is true, but film is a collective project which starts with the financier and white people have more money or power than blacks and are not beholden to satisfy black needs. Black people can take care of ourselves and if our leaders: black people with money or influence, are unwilling to lead positively or lead negatively, well such is life.

    I quote< There are a few future things in the works that I am hopeful about. Disney is set to premiere Ironheart on Disney+ in the near future, and is creating a TV show featuring Princess Tiana in 2023 with (hopefully) an eye to a less stereotypical portrayal than the earlier film. The Disney partnership with South African film company Kugali to produce Iwaju in 2022 looks promising as long as it doesn’t turn into a repeat of the single representation story, and diasporic wars where African, Afro European, and Black American creatives are pitted against each other.  > 
    Well to be fair to Black people. White tribes have wars with each other. Black tribes have wars with each other as well. And to be blunt, because Black communities the world over usually lack power, and have to beg from whites, we tend to have bitter fights cause all the communities are based on begging.

    I quote < In the meantime, my son has stopped asking to watch television. He told me the other day that he understands why I have always avoided TV and read to him instead. It is not just the wonder of imagination and language that books rather than TV provide. It is not just the vibrant storylines that inspire his own creations. As my Black son looks at his bookshelves he can see row after row of books whose covers shine with characters who look like him, whose pages are full of joyful stories about characters who look like him living their lives in full Black joy instead of the shapeshifting and death embedded into so much of mainstream American television entertainment engaging with Blackness for kids.

    My son knows now, like many Black kids in America do, that if you try to look for yourself onscreen all you will see is erasure, sometimes stereotype. He knows to look for himself on the page instead. You can find some beautiful things there, if you try. > 
    In my view, this passage should had been the whole article. All this about what white man isn't doing for Black people is for me worthless. Yes, Whites don't like Blacks. Blacks don't like Whites. And just because the financially wealthiest Black people are reared to cater to whites doesn't mean the financially poorest Black people want to. 
     

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    Disney's Disembodied Black Characters

    March 23, 2021   •   By Hope Wabuke

     

    ONCE A YEAR, from the first year of middle school until I graduated from high school, my orchestra would board the yellow school district buses along with our instruments and drive the 45-minute winding route through the San Gabriel mountains from Arcadia to Anaheim, California, to perform at Disneyland. After 30 minutes of rehearsal and another 30-minute performance, we were given free rein to wander the park until closing, when the busses would drive us home.

    I knew even then that what we had was not usual; it was a privilege to experience what we experienced growing up in that tiny southern California town, miles and years away from the tiny black and white missionary TV screen in Uganda where my parents had first spied the Disney movies that had made them imagine America a wonderful, magical place. 

    What we had in Arcadia, home to one of the top public school districts in the state, were the perks that went along with that education. But what we also had to go along with it — being one of the first Black families to move to that city, and usually the only Black student in my class — was the racism: being followed in stores, ordered to pay before dining in restaurants, being told we were the color of “poop” by teachers, and never seeing anyone who looked like us in the books we read in school. This is the Black experience in America when your hardworking Black parents are determined to get you the best education they can. It’s an abundance of opportunity, but only if you learn to survive within the boundaries of acceptable racism.

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    My wealthy non-Black classmates loved wandering around the grounds of Disneyland, a place they were familiar with from regular family visits throughout the year. I was not. With the price tag at $100 per person, my family of eight people had been to Disneyland only once — with family friends from out of town when they came to visit. To prepare for the $1,000 excursion, my father had put our family on a budget for half a year, and we had packed backpacks full of lunch and dinner. We were warned there would be no souvenirs so we shouldn’t even try it.

    As someone unaccustomed to its scope, Disneyland was big and overwhelming for me. But as performers in the student orchestra — both guests and employees, to some extent — we were privy to the back lots and back entrances of the park that regular visitors didn’t see — the backstage bones of the glossy stages and rides, the stacked up piles of recycled parts of shuttered amusements and worn-out characters. We were forbidden to take pictures here — it was not public Disney; it did not hold the myth of Disney perfection and magic. But I liked thinking that we alone had this secret knowledge of a place that was familiar to so many. We were part of the select few who saw what was denied public view.

    Once, I was told this same story about the man himself, Walt Disney: the reason that most of  the candid photos of Walt Disney throughout the park showed his fingers shaped in a V was because he smoked cigarettes and didn’t want to be seen doing so. But this private truth did not align with his desired public image; the cigarettes had to be airbrushed out.

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    In the middle of last summer, trying to understand the new balance of homeschooling and remote working in the pandemic, I gave in to my seven-year-old’s requests and let him have half an hour of screen time in the evenings. But being a Black parent who was once a Black girl and well aware of the horrific absence and equally horrific stereotypical and token representations of Blackness on television that I have seen, I told him that he could only watch a TV show if it had a main character who looked like him. Within that guideline, he could choose whatever age-appropriate show he wanted. He wanted cartoons, and so he began his search with those constraints. But within five minutes, he came to me in tears. We had subscriptions to am*zon Prime and Netflix, and he had searched both for Black characters in kids shows. He had found nothing.

    I sat down, pulled him onto my lap and cuddled him until his tears eased. When he was soothed enough, I picked the remote up from the floor and typed in “Black kids cartoons” on Netflix. The only thing that came up was Motown Magic, which he had already seen. I tried “African American kids cartoons.” Nothing else. “Black kids shows,” “African American kids shows” had nothing else in his age range, but a couple of live action shows aimed at the tween and teenage crowd.  I tried am*zon Prime, which was even more of a desert. Searches there brought up Orphan Black and Black Mirror instead.

    My son was growing impatient. “Mommy, isn’t there anything?” he called, tears eased and now bouncing on his trampoline. “Not yet,” I called back, scrolling through endless titles of movies without any Black characters in them. And then I recalled a passing conversation about the launch of Disney Plus with a fellow mom friend.

    “Doc McStuffins!” I exclaimed loudly, remembering the patron saint of Black parents everywhere, as I ordered Disney Plus. Among the little Black girl doctor and her talking toys, my son was happy for most of the year. I thanked God for Chris Nee, McStuffins’s wonderful creator, every day of 2020. And then, just in time for winter break, he asked for something else.

    “Did you finish Doc McStuffins?” I asked.

    “No, I just want to watch something else for a while,” he said. But we couldn’t find any other cartoon show on Disney Plus that featured Black kids as main characters. So we watched an episode of Vampirina, another of Nee’s creations, this one about a vampire family living amongst human neighbors in contemporary Philadelphia. But I was uneasy at the danger made cute, uneasy with Nee’s portrayal of the mythical bloodsucking vampire-as-monster-as-outsider equated to the outsiderness of the Black girl as outsider.

    Networks are so proud of each of their few Black kids shows, it seems, that they forget two things:

     

    That kids will watch the show and then want to watch something else.

     

    That Black kids have a diversity of tastes, and, beyond that, they grow up. One show can’t appeal to all Black kids from age three to 16. And why should we expect it to, even if it could?

     


    Searching further on Disney, we found Moana, which my son watched because Moana was brownish like him he said, and Elena of Avalor because she was also kind of brownish and went to school with a brownish kid who looked kind of like him.  

    But nothing else.

    “What about these ones? I said, selecting the 2009 animated feature The Princess and The Frog and The Proud Family.

    “I already looked, Mom. The girl isn’t really there; she’s a green frog most of the time,” he sighed. “The other show is kind of mean and too grown up for me.”

    I searched and searched the network. Nothing. Finally, I had an idea.

    “Animals!” I exclaimed. “You can watch a show if there are animals.”

    My son’s face brightened. He returned to Netflix and selected Octonauts, a delightful show about animals from diverse regions of the world who work together to help other animals, teaching science along the way. Then there were Puffin Rock and Peppa Pig. And, of course, the entire Disney collection of talking animal content. The animal cartoons were fascinating and endless in their diversity and skillful edutainment. My son has yet to run out of new animal show options on the streaming services we have.

    But I wonder: what does it say that it is so much easier for my son to find wonderfully crafted television shows and films featuring talking animals than it is to find shows about kids who look like him?

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    Last fall, when the studios and networks rolled out their kids holiday fare, it was more of the same: the absence of Blackness. The most promising of the offerings was Netflix’s Jingle Jangle, which is quite lovely and which my son enjoyed. He appreciated the live action musical magic in the tradition of Disney’s own Mary Poppins.

    “But where are the cartoons, Mom?” he asked. “And why does the story have to be so sad with people dying?”

    I thought about my son’s questions. I had no answers, only the same questions about entertainment for Black adults, and the saturation of images of Black pain rather than Black joy. The heaviness I feel in my soul when yet another studio markets its slave film (or other narrative of historical Black oppression) as the “Black movie” release of the year is the same heaviness in my son’s soul at these kid’s movies that traffic in Black sadness and Black death.

    True, films like Netflix’s Jingle Jangle and Disney’s The Lion King and the Princess and the Frog are in line with the loss-of-parent narrative that’s part of the blueprint for this kind of children’s storytelling, harkening all the way back to Disney’s Golden Age. But the impact of that loss-of-parent narrative resonates much more loudly when looking at animated Disney films with Black content because of the very small number of animated films and television that feature Black protagonists at all.

    You see, all animated Disney films featuring Black protagonists have either a dead parent or the death of the protagonist as a plot point; however, there are many animated Disney films with non-Black characters where parents and protagonists escape this deathly trope simply because of the sheer numbers of Disney films made with non-Black protagonists. This lack of representation creates a single story of Blackness, predicated on death and sadness.

    And, because of history, because of the way race and power work in a society where we are already saturated with images of Black death and anti-Black violence — consider how many times the deaths of unarmed Black children like Tamir Rice and unarmed Black men like Eric Garner and George Floyd were replayed across media channels versus the genteel blurring out of the death of Ashli Babbitt, the white woman insurrectionist who died while storming the Capitol in January 2021 — the death of Black parents in Disney films operates in a much different way than the death of non-Black parents in Disney films. Simply put: for every death of non-Black parents depicted in Disney films like Frozen, there are many, many other Disney films with non-Black protagonists in which the parents do not die, in which death is not a major plot point; in which the non-Black characters are allowed happiness and joy. And when that death does occur, it is not amplified in the real world by the media’s disregard for the sanctity of Black life.

    Where are the happy carefree storylines for young Black kids that white kids get? Where is the diversity of storyline and personality and genre representation that white kids get? Whiteness gets multiplicity — of storyline, genre, medium, a multiplicity of films and television shows that speak to a multiplicity of age ranges and interests — all represented by white characters. Snow White. Cinderella. Beauty and the Beast. 101 Dalmatians. The Flight of the Navigator. E.T.. How to Tame Your Dragon. My Little Pony: Equestria Girls. The Incredibles. Kim Possible. WildKrats. Toy Story. Frozen. Frozen II. Inside Out. Tangled. Brave. Sarah and Duck. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. Peter Pan. Pete’s Dragon. Alice in Wonderland. Sleeping Beauty. The Little Mermaid. The Sword in the Stone. Robin Hood. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Pete’s Dragon. James and the Giant Peach. Hercules. Doug’s First Movie. Recess: School’s Out. Return to Neverland. Treasure Planet. Meet the Robinsons. Enchanted. Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Rescue. The Cat in the Hat. Sofia the First. Boss Baby. Masha and the Bear. Johnny Test. The Lorax. Dennis the Menace. Ben and Charlie’s Little Kingdom. The Magic School Bus. And on and on.

    Blackness gets Doc McStuffins.

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    My freshman year of high school, our annual performance at Disneyland coincided with a live recording session of a Disney film soundtrack. Because we were members of one of the best high school orchestras in the state, the staff said, we were to be given a special treat: a walk-through of the recording soundstages. Quiet, in the audience, we stood and watched the musicians’ bows rising and falling across their strings in unison. Onscreen, the young lion I would come to know as Simba was roaring his pain at the death of his father. I would, of course, also come to know the film as The Lion King, Disney’s first modern foray — however anthropomorphized — into engaging with Black culture on the big screen. The Disney orchestra soared. So did I.

    The story, of course, since it engages with Blackness in some way, was about family disintegration and death. But still, I remember the crackling energy pervading my childhood home in the days preceding the film’s release, the excitement of going to see it in the theatre with my whole family, so starved for representations of Blackness, let alone Africa in film. I remember my African parents’ happiness and pride in seeing something like home shining across the screen.

    The hunger for representations of Blackness in Disney films was not just felt in my family, but in families across the world. To date, The Lion King is the highest grossing traditionally animated Disney movie of all time. But back in 1994, Disney couldn’t imagine that this success could be repeated by making more Black stories, perhaps even with people, rather than animals. Instead, the studio just made more Lion King. We have seen The Lion King as Broadway musical, as a touring production, as a television show, as a live action remake starring the voices — but never the Black bodies of course — of the nation’s most iconic and brilliant Black performers.

    Indeed, it would be another 15 years before Disney made another feature based on Black culture — and the first Disney film ostensibly to revolve around actual Black characters. But Tiana, Disney’s first Black animated protagonist, would be onscreen for just about 40 minutes. More shockingly, she would be drawn as a Black woman for just 17 of those minutes. Most of the time, as you probably know, Tiana is a frog.

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    Some of us, like I am, are old enough to remember the public call for a Black Disney princess throughout the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s that pushed a reluctant Disney into making The Princess and The Frog in the first place. However, the representations of Blackness in Princess Tiana’s world were problematic from the beginning. Set in the 1920s South — the height of the Jazz Age, but also Jim Crow — Princess Tiana, accounts of that time report, was originally conceived as a servant character with strong echoes of slavery in characterization and naming. Indeed, her original name “Maddy” sounded very close to the Mammy slave stereotype applied to Black women.

    Although Tiana’s character was rewritten as a waitress rather than a servant, this original vision is still evident in the opening scenes of the film, when Tiana’s mother pays little attention to her daughter and focuses all her attention and dialogue in caring for Tiana’s white girl friend. Here, too, in this opening, Tiana’s white girl friend is introduced before Tiana and dominates the first scenes of the film with verbosity and energy. Tiana is silent and ignored in the background.

    The dynamic is clear: here is the centering of the white character and the depiction of Tiana’s mother acting as a mammy character to the white child, while ignoring her own — a stereotype of Black motherhood that was set during Jim Crow but has roots embedded in American slavery.

    But it is not just the opening racial dynamics and cinematic choices of the film that sets Tiana’s portrayal differently than any of Disney’s other non-Black princesses, or even main characters. Nor, again, is it just the fact that the Black body of Princess Tiana appears so little in her film: 17 minutes out of the film’s 98 minute runtime.

    It is that so much of Tiana’s film is created through a white gaze that looks to diminish, rather than celebrate the beauty of Black womanhood, or even Blackness in general. Instead of the expected cute and cuddly Disney animal character that always accompanies a Disney hero, there is only the worst of the buck-toothed minstrel stereotypes in the firefly that adopts Tiana; instead of a magical and charming fairy godmother there is only the worst stereotypes of the bugaboo African witch doctor; and everywhere, everywhere is the ridiculing of the Black body with the obsessive attention to all the characters’ overexaggerated buttocks, a stereotype used to portray Blackness since Saartje Bartmaan was kidnapped from South Africa and exhibited onstage in European zoos in order for white audiences to gawk at her physiology. It’s not just a question, in other words, of Tiana’s relative visibility as a Black princess; it’s about the whole swamp she’s got to wade through in order to be seen at all.

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    Soul, Disney’s ethnic animated kid’s film for this winter season, is unique among animated Disney movies in that the central characters are adults rather than children, with children sprinkled sparingly throughout the film. Also of note is the much more adult subject matter of the film: the inciting incident of the narrative is that the main character dies. Soul follows what happens after that death. More typical is the message of the film: the classic cinematic stereotype of the Black male character desperately trying to save the life of a white woman, the character 22 played by Tina Fey, to the point that the Black man sacrifices his “life” doing so. And the other message of Soul? Accept that you are going to die and don’t try to fight your fate. Yet neither of these themes seem particularly uplifting to children in the style of the Disney brand that exists when dealing with non-Black characters.

    Like The Princess and The Frog, Soul begins as a promising premise showcasing some brilliant Black actors. However, like Princess Tiana, Soul’s Joe Gardner is immediately characterized by a burning desire to work. Even the character’s last name is a type of job. Tiana and Joe, unlike other non-Black Disney characters who are given other motivations — falling in love, self-discovery, or saving the world — are only represented by the labor their Black bodies can provide, another stereotype of Blackness.

    But the most damaging representation is this: like The Princess and The Frog’s Black protagonist, Soul’s Black lead spends a good deal of the movie not in a Black body, but represented as a blue ghost object without the Black ethnic facial features that characterize the him when in his physical form. And then, Joe Gardner’s Black body is inhabited by 22, the spirit of the character voiced by white actress Tina Fey. Joe, on the other hand, is put in the body of a cat. In other words, the Black body is colonized by whiteness while the Black character’s “soul” is put into the body of an animal — because it’s Disney and Black people are only equal to animals — before eventually choosing to sacrifice his life for 22, the white woman.

    I find it very telling that the first animated Disney movie featuring a Black woman main character and the first animated Disney movie to feature a Black man character as leads are written in such a way that both of these main characters spend a large part of their respective films in bodies that are neither Black nor even human.

    Green, blue — Disney has no problem with characters that are different colors, it seems, as long as that color is not brown.

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    What does it say to Black kids watching when the world’s biggest children’s entertainment company cannot give them even one animated film that features a Black person that stays a Black person throughout? What does this say about Blackness to kids who are not Black? About whose life is being portrayed as mattering? And whose does not?

    This is how bias and harmful stereotypes are created and perpetuated in society. This is how whiteness protects whiteness and thus a system of white supremacy through media representation: by normalizing itself as human and othering Blackness through erasure and dehumanization. Whether conscious or unconscious, this bias and adherence to white supremacy and Black erasure and dehumanization is real and damaging.

    And no matter how much I try, I still cannot understand why Disney — a groundbreaking company predicated on reveling in the imagination, a company whose creative products are so well-known for their tremendous ability to invest animals with human characteristics and deep wells of pathos in order to center intimate storytelling against epic themes — does nothing but relegate Black characters to animals and objects, mining stories of Black suffering and death when Black kids deal with enough violence, often based on race, in the real world.

    When will Disney make a film with Black characters played by Black characters? Why is this so damn hard?

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    In 1937, Walt Disney Animation Studios released its first full-length animated film: Snow White. As the film’s cost grew to $1.5 million over its three-year production period, Walt Disney mortgaged his house to put up the remaining financing. His financial gamble worked: Snow White was an artistic and commercial success. Disney’s groundbreaking form of storytelling captured the hearts and imagination of children and adults alike and grossed $8 million in revenue at the box office, the most money ever made by a film up to that time. Snow White was quickly followed by Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi, the films now known as Disney’s Golden Age.

    One of the cornerstones of the Disney entertainment phenomenon is the understanding of how an irrepressible visual imagination and sonic landscape are vital in creating lush children’s entertainment that draws viewers in and has them humming songs from the films afterwards. By the mid 1940s, the Walt Disney team had perfected this structure, setting a bar that has led the industry for decades.

    Simply put, Disney stories and Disney songs are iconic in our culture.

    So as we think about questions of representation, this includes looking not just at how few films with Black characters are made by Disney, but also looking behind the camera at the creative team. Who are the creatives involved in these projects? The writers and composers trusted to create for the Disney brand?

    For Soul, the sonic landscape of the film was created by the wonderfully talented Trent Reznor, best known for his band Nine Inch Nails, who, along with Atticus Ross, composed the score. Black American musician Jon Batiste was brought on to provide the singing “voice” of Joe Gardner’s piano, the same way the luminous Anika Noni Rose was the “voice” of Princess Tiana. This was considered progress from The Lion King’s casting of white American actor Jonathan Taylor Thomas to play the young version of the Simba, the African hero, and white American actor Mathew Broderick to play the adult version. White American actress Moira Kelly was the voice of Nala, the female African lion who is Simba’s love interest.

    As with Soul, for The Princess and The Frog, Disney again tapped another white male composer to head the team in Randy Newman. And for The Lion King, we remember Elton John’s and Hans Zimmer’s glorious soundtrack, an art object in its own right.

    These artists are brilliant. That is unquestionable.

    The question is this: Despite the stunning reputations and work of these white composers, with all the Black jazz and soul musicians out there; with the invention of rock, country and jazz music by Black artists, the erasure of Blackness and co-option by whites of the first two art forms; with the financial imbalance in which white artists and labels took advantage of Black artists, whether predatory contracts in the 1960s and 1970s or Black soul musician Lady A getting her name stolen by the band formerly known as Lady Antebellum this past year; with this history of marginalization of Black creatives and in this political climate, doesn’t this sonic whitewashing just seem like there is so much potential for diverse representation, wasted?

    Or does Disney’s refusal to create an animated movie with Black characters who stay Black characters go beyond these three films that traffic in stereotypes and erasure and speak to larger institutional issues regarding perceptions of Blackness that behoove attention?

    One wonders: if the very accomplished white writing team of John Musker and Ron Clements, who after criticism about their treatment of race in the film, brought on the gifted Black writer Rob Edwards to help pen The Princess and The Frog, had also included a Black woman on the script about the first Black woman Disney protagonist, or an eye that valued Black woman the same way white women are valued in our society, would we perhaps have seen a less stereotypical representation of the first Black Disney princess that was more in line with the value and care shown to the other lighter-skinned Disney princesses in the Disney story canon, for example? Or, if the creators had thought as intentionally about Blackness before creating this story as they did with the creation of Moana’s Oceanic Story Trust, could there have been a different result as well? Or if a Black creator had been allowed to imagine Tiana and her world from the ground up, rather than slapping a Black perspective on the film as a hasty afterthought — a quick fix band-aid to solve the racist undertones of the film when the problems were not just skin deep?

    And if Soul, too, had also begun with a Black writer creating a storyline rather than white screenwriters Pete Doctor and Mike Jones again bringing on a Black American writer (this time Kemp Powers) two years into the project to add authenticity and perspective of character to a fundamentally problematic idea, could Soul have been a more positive representation of Blackness without unconscious bias and stereotypes?

    It matters, where imagination begins in the mind. It matters whether that mind can imagine full Black personhood, or if that imagination is still constrained by unconscious bias and internalized stereotypes.

    “We quickly came across this idea of a story about a soul who doesn’t want to die meeting a soul that doesn’t want to live,” said Mike Jones in an interview with Awards Daily from February 2021. “I think the very first version, he was an actor, and he had gotten his big break on Broadway. He was going to play Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman, and we thought that was just so clever but we just didn’t feel it. As soon as we came up with the idea that he should be a jazz musician, the idea of wrapping jazz and the improvisational nature of jazz was just so electric that we decided to make him a jazz musician. And let’s make him a middle school band teacher who aspires to something greater. That naturally led to the idea that he should be a middle-aged Black man, and that’s when we brought Kemp Powers in.”

    Because of the complexity of the Black experience in America, stories that may read as neutral with a white main character can become, like Soul, problematic when the race of that character is changed from white to Black and the narrative is not rethought accordingly. For example, take Soul’s idea of putting a white character into the body of a Black man. Or Soul’s idea of a Black man’s soul being put into an animal. Where whiteness in America does not have a tradition of being violently colonized and enslaved, Blackness does. Where whiteness in America doesn’t have a racially loaded history of being compared to animals in a dehumanizing way, Blackness does. And suddenly, a plot point that seemed innocuous when envisioning the character as white, becomes part of a larger tradition of whiteness violating and dehumanizing the Black body, begun with American slavery.

    It is not just enough to change a character’s race; when changing race, the narrative has to be re-envisioned accordingly in line with a character’s positioning in society. For Black folks in America, race informs so much of our experiences in life; to ignore this when creating a narrative of Black life is to practice a white-centered misconception of “colorblindness” that denies the full humanity of our personhood.

    And nothing makes this misrepresentation clearer than Soul’s animation, which erases Joe Gardner’s Black ethnic features in the afterlife, effectively saying that the default representation of human, of a soul, is whiteness.

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    There are a few future things in the works that I am hopeful about. Disney is set to premiere Ironheart on Disney+ in the near future, and is creating a TV show featuring Princess Tiana in 2023 with (hopefully) an eye to a less stereotypical portrayal than the earlier film. The Disney partnership with South African film company Kugali to produce Iwaju in 2022 looks promising as long as it doesn’t turn into a repeat of the single representation story, and diasporic wars where African, Afro European, and Black American creatives are pitted against each other. Mama K’s Team 4, a Zimbabwean cartoon, is set to premier on Netflix in 2022. And our most promising discovery: the Kweli TV app, which curates Black content from around the world with shows like Bino & Fino, a cartoon featuring two kids from Nigeria who, my son says, look exactly like him.

    In the meantime, my son has stopped asking to watch television. He told me the other day that he understands why I have always avoided TV and read to him instead. It is not just the wonder of imagination and language that books rather than TV provide. It is not just the vibrant storylines that inspire his own creations. As my Black son looks at his bookshelves he can see row after row of books whose covers shine with characters who look like him, whose pages are full of joyful stories about characters who look like him living their lives in full Black joy instead of the shapeshifting and death embedded into so much of mainstream American television entertainment engaging with Blackness for kids.

    My son knows now, like many Black kids in America do, that if you try to look for yourself onscreen all you will see is erasure, sometimes stereotype. He knows to look for himself on the page instead. You can find some beautiful things there, if you try.

    My son’s basket of to-read books contain his current four favorites: Dragons in a Bag, Hi-Lo, Obi & Titi, and The Adventures of Mia Mayhem. In these books, like the others on his bookshelf, Black joy and Black life are embraced. And any of these would make amazing television or cinematic content.

    Take Dragons in a Bag, the first book in a series about Black kids and dragons in Brooklyn written by the wonderful Zetta Elliot. Or Hi-Lo, Judd Winick’s alien robot who saves the world with his best friends — a Black girl with magical powers and an Asian boy who breaks gender stereotypes to spread love rather than violence. Or Obi & Titi, O.T. Begho’s tales of a Black boy and girl racing through magical adventures in Nigeria. Or the Mia Mayhem series, Kara West’s thrilling adventures of a Black girl superhero in a long lineage of superheroes. These books are amazing, well written stories with nuanced representations of character. And guess what?

    No one Black dies in these books. And no one Black turns into a frog, a ghostly blue object, or anything else that is not Black for some corporation’s bizarre mindset that still believes that seeing Black faces onscreen for 120 minutes is too much.

    They stay Black kids the whole time.

     

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  16. And that somewhat agrees with the answer Dr. Wesley gave in how arrogant and quite foolish White folks are to think they can either battle a Higher Power than them or even try to wipe out humanity. That's dumber than a street gang thinking they can take on the nation's military. But towards Brother Rich's question........ I'm hearing a lot of TALK from brothers about these ETs and Saucers are this, can do that, about to do this, will establish that......ok. SOMEBODY knows the truth. However like Brother Rich said, White folks are still violent and dominating and still appear to be somewhat in control over much of the darker peoples of this planet. So the question is when are the Higher Powers going to make Their move on the White Power Structure? I know that YOU (ProfD) can't answer that question, but that wasn't a rhetorical question but a sincere one.
  17. OCTOBER 14-Upcoming Solar Eclipse! Ancient Halloween & Black Themes Coming Soon: A “Ring of Fire” in the Sky On Oct. 14, 2023, an annular total solar eclipse will be visible to millions across the globe as it sweeps through the skies of the northwestern United States through Mexico and Central America and into South America, exiting the continent in Brazil. Even if you are not in the path of annularity, you will still be able to see a partial solar eclipse if weather conditions are right. https://blogs.nasa.gov/Watch_the_Skies/2023/09/14/coming-soon-a-ring-of-fire-in-the-sky/ The ancient October festivals are one of my favorite topics as most people that know of my research probably know now! The most crucial reason why this topic becomes supreme for me would be because, although still a great kept secret, the ancient scripts pinpoint this month and day, OCTOBER 14, to be the very month and week of the Crucifixion. It continually amazes me though, that the Black Church still does not profess this truth from the pulpit, yet the entire faith revolves around this very Passover festival of the First Coming and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Still today, and although the ancient Saturnalia Festival detailed in the Gospel that occurred on the very same day that marks the Crucifixion, nevertheless, this truth is almost completely ignored. Although the ancient Romans changed this Saturnalia festival about thirty years later after the Crucifixion to occur at a different time, albeit astronomy and other scientific and historical facts should prove that the original pagan festival occurred during the middle of October and did so for thousands of years. Even more astonishingly would be that the Crucifixion happened during an incredible Total Solar Eclipse that lasted for three (3) hours and crossed the entire globe when the continental plates had not separated into the seven (7) continents that we have today! That makes the timing of this upcoming solar eclipse even more interesting to note. Even though many scientists do not highlight the effects that eclipses can possibly have on our earth, there does seem to be a possibility that eclipses can affect the earth from time-to-time. In the recent past Great American Total Solar Eclipse that happened in August of 2017, amazingly four (4) tropical depressions developed immediately afterwards out of which eventually spurned four (4) major hurricanes and other rare phenomena happened such as red tides as well. And after the Crucifixion, about thirty years later, the ancient scriptures reveal that the earth’s plates separated eventually, and the north pole and south pole formed. Interestingly too, many ancient festivals revolve around historical and scientific phenomena and therefore the history behind ancient festivals like the Saturnalia festival may be beneficial to know. For thousands of years, the ancient pagan Saturnalia Festival of which would also be the same Halloween festival observed today, was not a solar festival nor a winter’s solstice festival like today, rather, just like most of its’ symbolism reveal, it would be A LUNAR FESTIVAL. Halloween symbolisms such as ‘a full moon’, an orange moon, bats, owls, nighttime themes of cemeteries, witches depicted on brooms and in a moon silhouette, etc. and reveal that this would be an ancient moon festival in relation to death themes. Astronomically, exactly thirteen (13) days after a crescent new moon of every month begins THE FIRST EVENING OF THE MONTH ON A LUNAR CALENDAR. And so, every month and after the 13th evening begins the first day of a scientific calendar and the 14th day, technically becomes the FIRST DAY OF THE LUNAR MONTH. For the ancient Hebrew Israelites, SEPTEMBER 14 became their annual New Year’s Day except for their leap year. So every third year, their new years’ festival, Passover, began on OCTOBER 14 and therefore, Jesus Christ became Crucified during a leap year and during the very same week as the Saturnalia festival. According to scripture too, he died on the cross on the second day, on a Thursday, October 16 after a three-hour total solar eclipse, and then after three days, he was resurrected early Sunday morning, October 19, the first day of the week. Surprisingly, this month too, OCTOBER, has been observed in the Middle East as a significant holiday, the SIMKAT FESTIVAL. On a Gregorian lunar/solar Calendar, however, the actual day changes and at times, it will be on October 19. The 19th day in Ethiopia becomes the most major holiday as well, known as ‘the Timkhet (Timkat) festival’ however, unlike in the Middle East Simkhat, moreover, the month of January would be the time for this holiday. Furthermore, just as the First Coming was marked by an astronomical phenomenon of a total solar eclipse that marked the October event, this upcoming Ring-of-Fire eclipse becomes a reminder of this very historical time of year and helps to understand more about leap years and how our equinoxes are aligned with ancient festivals. So, even though today, Halloween has been moved and observed on October 31, to mark a Solar Calendar, however, the theme still reveals its’ ancient origin with being a lunar festival with black themes of human sacrifice. Ironically, the First Resurrection and the dark themes of mummies, skulls of decapitated heads, and skeletons that come to life go together, yet the Black Church almost completely ignores this concept. Even though the Holy Bible states that graves were opened, and the dead came to life at this very time when Jesus was Crucified, nevertheless, this has not taught in the Church. The Saturnalia festival and Halloween was observed as one theme in ancient times; however, certain aspects were divided up and observed in different ways over time. The Jews Passover Week was moved about thirty years later after the Crucifixion to be observed during the springtime and began to coincide with the Roman pagan Easter festival, but the Saturnalia festival became a winter’s solstice festival observed in December or January. Howbeit, the same dual theme of Halloween and Saturnalia has remained the same as it has been for thousands of years even before Moses ordained the Passover festival way back during the time of the Exodus. Surprise! The very institution of the Passover Festival was a seal, a hidden prophecy. This seal about the Saturnalia Festival was opened during that fateful week when the Passover Festival fell on the same week to mark this dark ritual that had occurred for thousands of years. Jesus came to mark this ritual of human sacrifice aimed against the priesthood of the living God. So now when Easter occurs every spring and a purple cloth has been draped across a Church symbolism of the planet Saturn, therefore, it now becomes the mark of the very Star of Bethlehem that also marked the advent of the babe born during that springtime when the star appeared in our solar system during the Festival of Booths! And then the babe became a man and that same star revolved around the sun about thirty years later to mark him again. Three and one-half years later, that same star stood over Calvary too: [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. [23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, … ST LUKE 3:23. A Saturn Return happens approximately every 29.5 years (i.e., the duration of Saturn’s orbit around the sun), which means it lands in the same place in the sky it did when you were born roughly around the time you turn 29. Generally, it “returns” for approximately 2.5 to three years. https://www.thecut.com/article/saturn-return-what-it-is-what-to-expect.html#:~:text=A%20Saturn%20Return%20happens%20approximately,approximately%202.5%20to%20three%20years. This ancient Saturnalia Festival that revolves around ‘the pagan god Set’ [i.e. Saturn], that marks a theme of human sacrifice goes way back in time, much farther in time than when Moses instituted the Passover festival. It goes back even before ancient Egypt when the dual Opet festival occurred between Osiris and Set. This theme of good and evil not only marks the Nicolaitan rituals observed in ancient Turkey Anatolia that included the goddess Cybele but, has been played out in so many early cultures that spread from the Near East all over the world in antiquity. And so, by the time of the Roman Empire, the Etruscan bronze or wooden statue of Saturn remained bound in the treasury temple of Mercury in Italy and was revived again to become a live human sacrificial ritual in Jerusalem. Jesus Christ became the captive god Set [i.e., Saturn, Seth] that became conquered by Mercury [i.e., Herod], the god of trade and mercantile and sacrificed at the end of the triumphant parade. This Black-on-Black violent ritual marks the sacrifice of Black males that have become victims of genocidal attempts, mass incarceration, miseducation, and rape, and spiritual death by way of homosexualism now introduced at birth; their souls being robbed in the cradle by a system that introduces this ideology before they have the human right to know why they are born genetically as males. Satan’s movement, his unisex government, has been set up to attack anatomically straight males, not only of Black males, but ultimately males of all walks of life. This would be the purpose of the sacrificial ram of God Almighty; the enmity of God that came to bruise the head of the matriarchal government that began in the Garden of Eden at the time of the Original Sin. Soon the temple of Mercury became changed to become the temple of Saturn many years later after the Crucifixion. The Diwali festival and its doomed god Narak-Asura that becomes an effigy burned at the end of a parade echoes the same dual theme of good versus evil, and light versus darkness. These dual themed rituals of Woden’s Dag [i.e., Magog’s day; Wednesday] took on so many other symbolisms but the same theme of human sacrifice remains the same even today. Whether the theme was about the gender conflict of Ops and the wedding day of Oden [i.e., Wednesday] when the evergreen tree became a central theme and symbolism of Opalia [i.e., goddess Consiva; conceives from a sexual encounter after eating the forbidden fruit of the tree] and Saturn, or whether it focuses on the other dual theme of the two opposing Black males, the dual themes became universal to mark the Original Sin and the world that came from it. Live victims were selected to be ‘the god Saturn’ for a day, given the robe of Herod or an ethnic puppet ruler, given the rulers clothes, such as a crown, scepter, etc. But eventually, the most supreme god Jupiter would emerge and cause both to be sacrificed. Whether Magog represented his feminine form and a matriarchal dominance or his male form, he ultimately reflects a dual theme within himself. Out of Magog would emerge the prince of Magog, that would be Gog and he reigned supreme. And so, strangely one day, during the Roman Empire times, the Jews’ Passover Week aligned itself with the Saturnalia Festival and the Ram was sacrificed at the end of a parade on a hill of skulls. And that day was marked astronomically to be during a total solar eclipse in October. Whether the moon theme depicts an orange moon [lunar eclipse] or a black moon [solar eclipse] this festival defines death and autumn not springtime. Interestingly, this upcoming and rare Ring-of-Fire solar eclipse will occur in North America and remind us of an ancient time when major grain festivals occurred during the middle of October and when it became regarded as a leap month. And six months later, another total solar eclipse has been predicted to occur on April 8, 2024, along with a periodic comet known as Pons-Brooks. Even more of an intrigue will be that next year, during the middle of the month of October, another comet has been detected by the Purple Mountain observatory, and will attempt to make an entry into our inner solar system and move towards the sun. The original day was given over to the Opalia, honoring Ops, who personified abundance and the fruits of the earth, and was the consort of Saturn. As the two deities represented the produce of the fields and orchards, so they also were thought to represent heaven and earth. https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/calendar/saturnalia.html#:~:text=The%20original%20day%20was%20given,to%20represent%20heaven%20and%20earth. Ops, Roman goddess (originally perhaps of the Earth’s fertility) with an ancient shrine in the Regia, the office of the pontifex maximus, which only he and the Vestal Virgins might enter. She was early equated with Rhea, wife of Saturn, and like her was later identified with Cybele. She also had connections with the rustic god Consus. Her title, Consiva, and the nomenclature and dating of her festivals (the Opalia on December 19 and the Opiconsiva on August 25) illustrate her affinities with the Saturnalia (December 17) … https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ops#ref1256767 …On October 14, a rare annular solar eclipse will be visible from eight states in the United States. … For the first time ever, this type of eclipse will be visible in North America. The eclipse begins on October 13 in Oregon and crosses through Northern California, Nevada, Utah, northeastern Arizona, southwestern Colorado, and New Mexico before it ends in Texas on October 14. From there, it will travel to Central America and South America, NASA reports. https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/a-ring-of-fire-solar-eclipse-will-be-visible-in-the-us-for-the-first-time-ever-here-s-how-and-when-to-see-it/ar-AA1fgj3F?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=661c59a806ed43d5ba3bc55061e2e301&ei=35 THE TIMKAT FESTIVAL IN ETHIOPIA Taking place in Ethiopia every year on 19th January (or the 20th on leap years!) Timkat (also known as Timket) is an Orthodox Christian celebration of the Ethiopian Epiphany. It celebrates the baptism of Jesus Christ in the Jordan River and is best known for its ritual re-enactment of the baptism.Jan 19, 2023 https://www.cpafrica.org.uk/african-culture/timkat-timket-ethiopia-christian-festival/
  18. My Thoughts on Movies That Move We discussion on Harlem Nights

    Eddie did get lucky, and to be blunt, time was of the essence, anumber of comedy movies of that period, like caddyshack united comedians of a certain age who were soon to be deceased. so... in terms of purpose, I think he wanted to do a number of things, be on screen with his elders, do a film with mostly black people in suits, have a cast of black characters that had all the cultural variance often not provided by white led productions. ala same with coming to america. In the end of the day, the monied classes of any community dictate the media. For the black community, not merely in the usa but globally, who don't have a financial elite based on enslavers/murderers/prohibition era gangsters/ or the myriad of others using criminal or illegal financial schemes that the white community has been totally privy too, we have to rely on those who earned their money fairly to be our rockefellers/duponts/jp morgans/carnegies/kennedy . I live in NYC, all those names I just mentioned had a history of criminality/illegality/violence that most black people will say is , doing bad. But, those same names financed the museums/art galleries/opera houses all the arts of NYC. All the arts of NYC was financed by all the rich white people who made their fortunes doing a lot of bad. Black people don't have those people in our community. The largest financial criminals black people get are drug dealers every decade or two with four corners. No way near the volume of pop rockefeller. So, black people have to rely on the black rich who are all from labors. Black athletes/entertainers/singers/small business chain owners like the brother who helped finance MLK jr's activities. But we don't have someone to finance a whole film studio+theater chain+ advertising network from scratch. So, black people like Eddie Murphy/oprah winfrey/poitier/denzel/et cetera , no matter what any think of them , through their attempts in the white owned media industry of the usa, which isn't a rude or mean thing to say, get whites to produce or have enough pennies to produce things like harlem nights, where black people can see a glint of what black owned media would had provided for centuries if possible/allowed.

     

  19. ProfD Why not simply EXPAND the economy? Why should the old fight with the young over limited jobs and positions when we could just INCREASE the amount of positions and services in our society? In a nation of 400 million people, who said we need only ONE city treasurer in each city? Infact, why not just do like China and build more cities to make more treasurers or mayors or civil engineers! It's funny how people are fighting with eachother over limited jobs WHILE they're shutting down factories and jobs and closing schools and moving them overseas. The population is GROWING but the resources are being cut.....more things that make you go: -Hmmmmmm There is PLENTY of land....empty land.....in the United States for PIONEERS to move to and build up whatever we'd like. The LIMITS set are man-made limits. Zoning laws. Billionaires or those in government who OWN the land and are preventing people FROM building on it and expanding this economy. They do this intentionally just to PIT people against eachother....needlessly. If @Cynique is jealous because Pioneer is getting so much attention and love and respect for HIS posts and she feels he doesn't deserve all of it...... Cynique doesn't have to leave out of anger and jealousy; all we have to do is EXPAND the site so that Cynique has a forum where SHE can be "that guy" who is getting all of the love and respect.....lol. This planet is big enough for everyone to do their thing IN PEACE. There is enough KNOWN resources (let alone UNKNOWN recourses) for everyone to have enough and do their thing IN PEACE. No need to fight and argue over that which is abundant. What's why in my signature I wrote that it's important to expand you CREATIVITY. A lot of problems in this world could be solved if we simply used our Creativity and Resourcefulness.
  20. Slippery slope because you'll have too many people working longer. There's only a finite number of jobs. Old folks should move out of the way and enjoy the remainder of their Iives. Let younger folks do the heavy lifting.
  21. ProfD The Democratic party takes the Black vote for granted without having to deliver anything tangible. Absolutely. Black folks are waking up quick fast and in a hurry now a days! Thanks to brothers like Tariq Nasheed who started demanding that we see TANGIBLES for our vote. No more "taking and shaking you booty to the polls" without being promised and getting something of substance that will benefit us and our children. Troy Really? Ofcourse. Vaccines are INVASIVE and most people in general are hesitant to accepting invasive procedures into their bodies. It's human nature. But Black Americans especially are anti-vaccine because for the most part we don't trust the White dominated medical system and usually only go to it when there is no other viable alternative. You've heard those statistics about how so many Black folks don't go to the doctor until it's "too late". One of the reasons is because most of our people don't fully trust the medical industry, especially when procedures are being administered by a Caucasian in some rubber gloves....lol. Regarding blacks being pro immigration. On my old block the house next to the one I owned (119st off Lenox) is being used to house migrants and the folks there are protesting this. Yeah, NOW a lot of Black people are anti-immigration over these past 15 or 20 years because they've seen so many Asians and Latinos move into their communities and be more racist towards them than even White folks. But HISTORICALLY Black folks have been pro-immigration for a number of reasons. 1. As I said before, most Black folks are aligned with the Democrat Party which is a pro-immigration party. 2. Most Black folks ASSUMED that Asian and Latino immigrants...being of color....would "side" with us against Caucasians and help us defeat racism. We didn't expect for them to be MORE openly racist than Whites themselves....lol. But a lot of our people are waking up fast. I’m not sure what you mean by being “pro-lgbt.” what would you have done with gays and lesbians @Pioneer1? The same thing we BEEN doing with them... Making them keep that shit in the closet....LOL. Homosexuality has existed among Black people for THOUSANDS of years. It's nothing new. But it wasn't promoted and welcomed in our communities. They were encouraged to do it in private and in secret among eachother, not promote it on television or in the schools. Caucasians introduced that to promote their agenda of de-population among people of color.
  22. Most people like to hang out in popular spaces whether in the real world or virtual. Same goes for consumption of things whether it's music, books, movies, clothes, shoes, cars, etc. It's has little or nothing to do with quality of content moreso than mental accessibility. Again, many people like to be in the crowd. Anything that requires a deeper dive or heavier lift mentally will be an acquired taste from an engagement or participation perspective. However, make content simple and plain or crass and vulgar; folks will eat it up like McDonald's food. Cheap entertainment. Brotha @Troy, stay the course. I know you've been rocking AALBC for a long minute now. The site will grow as it's meant to happen.
  23. Chris Rock slaps Back Hard at Will and Jada Pinkett Smith in the Netflix special; Selective Outrage I have not been able to see the Neflix special. But there has been quite a buzz about it. So yes, the Oscars is today, March 12, 2023, and I heard that Chris Rock declined. I also heard that the host this year, Jimmy Kimmel, will speak about that infamous slap that Will Smith delivered to Chris Rock last year. I don’t think I would be this curious about the Academy Awards show had it not been for so much propaganda this year about what happened last year and also because of the snub that the movie Women King has gotten as well as the hype about the movie Black Panther. I read that some of the rules that might have went against Women King is that it is not based on accuracy? I don’t know, maybe they will be mentioned. Anyway, I hope that Angela Bassett gets what she wants and well, that song that Rhianna sang is absolutely beautiful. I hope she shines. I just don’t understand what the hype is about the halftime performance because she and the dancers were wearing baggy jumpsuits. But I do understand that may have nothing to do with the complaint and therefore, maybe it could be something offensive. I have not see it yet. I’ve heard so much about these movies up for awards and also, I am very interested in seeing the much talked about movie All About Everything Everywhere [?] and others as well. I’ve heard about Till and Top Gun and so, I am really interested this year in what is being featured. I am not much of a movie goer and usually wait until it comes off the big screen, but maybe if I can get some money, I might go to the theaters. _________________________________________________ Chris Rock slaps back at Will and Jada Pinkett Smith –hard –in live Netflix special BY GREG BRAXTON SENIOR WRITER, CULTURE AND REPRESENTATION MARCH 4, 2023 UPDATED 8:42 PM PT When Will Smith slapped Chris Rock during the 2022 Oscars ceremony, many members of the live audience and TV viewers at home thought it was a joke – until they realized, to their horror, that it wasn’t. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2023-03-04/chris-rock-netflix-special-selective-outrage _______________________________________________ I also hear that Chris Rock may not be at the Academy Awards show either. But his Neflix special supposedly went very well, although I did hear that Will Smith was not too happy about what Chris Rock had said. Some reporters spoke against Rock for some of his explicative descriptions about Jada but for the most part, he seems to have had awesome reviews. Many people love him and believe that he is a powerhouse and he delivered. Rock did not speak about the infamous slap until the last ten minutes but, he dropped bits and pieces of jabs about ‘the slap’ throughout his skit until the end. And then he brought the mic down! More importantly, he made the big bucks. By Mark Heim | mheim@al.com Will Smith is said to be “embarrassed and hurt” over Chris Rock’s comments in his latest Neflix special, according to an Entertainment Tonight report. https://www.al.com/life/2023/03/will-smith-embarrassed-hurt-over-chris-rocks-netflix-special-per-report.html Chris Rock’s Net Worth Makes Him Consistently One of The Top-Paid Comedians –How Much He Made From His Netflix Special By LEA VELOSO MAR 08, 2023 AT 1:21 PM EST Striking comedy gold? Chris Rock’s net worth exploded after his Netflix deal. The longtime comedian released the first-ever live comedy special on the streaming platform and he made big bank from his two specials. … How much did Chris Rock make from his Netflix special? In 2016, The Hollywood Reporter reported that Rock secured a whopping $40 million for his two specials, Chris Rock: Tambouring and Chris Rock: Selective Outrage the latter of which dropped on Netflix on March 4, 2023, and directly references Will Smith, his wife Jada Pinkett Smith, and the infamous Oscars slap. “Chris Rock is a beloved actor and director, and his remarkable stand-up makes him comic royalty. There is no one like him, and Netflix offers the global platform and creative freedom that will serve as a perfect home for someone with his incredible talent,” Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos said in a statement. https://stylecaster.com/chris-rock-net-worth/
  24. Well, the reality is that today most people, certainly those under 40, tell me that AALBC HAS to be on social media. So the Brother may have actually believed what he was telling me. TicTok is often cited as one of those platforms. I tried TikTok for a couple of months hot minute and the number of views my videos got was decent, but the problem still remains. TikTok's goal is to boost engagement on their platform and that is how success is measured. I measure success by how many people come to AALBC.com as a result of my activities on the platform. TikTok did not result move the needle when it came to new visitors. Maybe I did not give it enough time, maybe I did not do it correctly... I dunno. I trying to figure all that out for the website I have no time trying to figure that out on TicTok. The reality is that I will get 10K people to open an email this week -- many more will visit this discussion forum alone through organic search. By any measure that is excellent, but no one cares unless it is happening on a social platform. If a few celebrities decided to post here from time to time I can't even imagine what it would do for the website
  25. Her sexual orientation has nothing to do with her ability and it's not pulling black people down in any way. LGBTQ people are just as much part of the black community as anybody. We've got to move beyond the idea that authentic blackness whatever that may be is only straight male cisgendered and patriarchal. My only concern is that Barabara Lee whose been in the House for several years and lives in California wasn't chosen. But this woman has a strong background in labor and community organizing in addition to abortion rights. Give her a chance. She might surprise us in a good way.
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