All Economic Warfare is Based on Deception

[umbrarchist]

Blocked by another economist on BlueSky.  Should I try a different deodorant?

 

 

He's got way more followers than me. I haven't even reached 1000. It must be that degree thing. I never should have dropped out.

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[ProfD]

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

Blocked by another economist on BlueSky.  Should I try a different deodorant?

 

He's got way more followers than me. I haven't even reached 1000. It must be that degree thing. I never should have dropped out.

Becoming popular in anything has little or nothing to do with credentials. Hardly anybody actually verifies the letters behind a name.

 

Amassing followers or customers is all about one's ability to market and promote i.e. selling themselves.

[umbrarchist]

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-get-a-solid-understanding-of-economics-by-only-using-free-PDF-versions-of-textbooks-or-should-you-invest-in-physical-copies/answer/Karl-Smithe-1

[umbrarchist]

I have acquired a critic on another site.

 

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For there to be perceivable factual errors, it must actually contain some coherent communicated point. It nowhere near amounts to being wrong considering it is illegible nonsense. I can emulate it to give you some insight if you're this lacking in self-awareness?

Or I can give you some more general critiques until you can get your shit together and say something meaningful?

Tonal discrepancies: your post reads like a somewhat disjointed spoken commentary rather than a written argument. It jumps between historical figures, terms, and events with minimal transitions and for no apparent reason - like you're name-dropping without really knowing much about the people. Similarly, despite apparently trying to write in an authoritative and definitive manner, the sum of the clutter is that it's speculative and suggestive, rather than being a structured argument or a thesis that can be disputed.

Lack of coherence and structure: Each paragraph jumps freely around between topics, like free-association rather than cogent point. Many things that are referred to such as Marx’s terminology, the Depression, GNP, Keynes, FDR are just tossed into the mix without clear transitions or connective logic. It's more like a collage of ideas you pinned to the same board by chance, rather than with any intent.

Unclear thesis: It's not just not clear what you're trying to argue or conclude; it's completely absent any salient point. Is it about the evolution of economic definitions? The shortcomings of classical economics? The emergence of planned obsolescence?  I doubt you know, frankly, or else you wouldn't have considered it worthy not just to write, but then to cite yourself as if you were some kind of expert.

Unsubstantiated claims: There certainly are some questionable details you have presented as fact such as FDR's dismissal of Keynes or the timing of fiscal stimulus.

Outdated or useless language: Phrases like “many things which consumers buy today that depreciate did not exist when Marx was alive” are vague. What things? Why on Earth is it relevant?

Non-sequiturs: "Karl Marx used the word 'depreciation' 35 times in the first two volumes of Das Kapital. But Marx died in 1883."


If you slap words on a piece of paper at random, the world will similarly be unable to point out any false claims you made - being unintelligible is a kind of proof against being shown wrong, I guess... but you still remain incoherent and thus fail to get any message across.

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[Troy]

 I can see his point

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

I have acquired a critic on another site.

Surely. That can't be the 1st time you've read such a critique of your writing style.

 

Seems that around here, we're less critical of  subject matter, opinions, ideas, etc. 

[umbrarchist]

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Surely. That can't be the 1st time you've read such a critique of your writing style.

 

Seems that around here, we're less critical of  subject matter, opinions, ideas, etc. 

Actually I have encountered it quite often.

People with nothing of substance to say but trying to be insulting with what l regard as trivia.

[umbrarchist]

Someone asked this question on Quora.com:

 

Is the USA experiencing end stage Capitalism? What comes next?

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Is Consumerism really Capitalism?

 

When have you heard an economist discuss Planned Obsolescence? We hear GDP, GDP, GDP all of the damn time. What is the NDP?

 

NET Domestic Product

 

If there is a Gross there should be a NET!

 

There were 200,000,000 motor vehicles in the United States in 1995. Where are they? Machines wear out!

 

Machines DEPRECIATE!!!

 

Karl Marx used the word 'depreciation' 100+ times in Das Kapital. But there were no automobiles when Marx wrote Das Kapital.

 

Where has the economics profession been hiding all of the Depreciation Data on things that did not exist when Marx was alive?

 

Automobiles, Jet Planes, Microwave Ovens, Washing Machines, Computers, Snow Mobiles, Snow Blowers, Hi-Fi stereos, Nuclear Submarines.

 

All that crap was added to GDP!

 

All that crap should be subtracted to compute NDP! But economists do not talk about the Net Domestic Product equation.

Economists cannot do Algebra.

 

Talking about the End Stage of Capitalism makes no sense when you have not acknowledged the last phase change.

 

John Maynard Keynes never saw a television commercial for an automobile. Less than 1% of American households had televisions in 1948. It was 90% by 1962.

 

See the USA in your Chevrolet 

Economists are telling you to play

 

With junk designed to Depreciate.

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Of course I had to answer. I keep seeing this "Late Stage Capitalism" rubbish everywhere but uselessly vague generalizations about what that is supposed to mean.

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[ProfD]

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Is Consumerism really Capitalism?

Intertwined but different.  

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

When have you heard an economist discuss Planned Obsolescence? We hear GDP, GDP, GDP all of the damn time. What is the NDP?

There is no incentive to focus on NDP when the game is capitalism fueled by consumerism and planned obsolescence.

 

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

There were 200,000,000 motor vehicles in the United States in 1995. Where are they? Machines wear out!

 

Machines DEPRECIATE!!!

Each one of those motor vehicles can be sold as along as it still runs. 

 

Inoperable motor vehicles can be broken down into parts and resold. 

 

Once the parts are salvaged, total loss vehicles become crap metal.

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Karl Marx used the word 'depreciation' 100+ times in Das Kapital. But there were no automobiles when Marx wrote Das Kapital.

 

Where has the economics profession been hiding all of the Depreciation Data on things that did not exist when Marx was alive?

Karl Marx understood in theory capital, production, consumption, labor, surplus value, commodity, etc.

 

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Automobiles, Jet Planes, Microwave Ovens, Washing Machines, Computers, Snow Mobiles, Snow Blowers, Hi-Fi stereos, Nuclear Submarines.

 

All that crap was added to GDP!

 

All that crap should be subtracted to compute NDP! But economists do not talk about the Net Domestic Product equation.

Production of those items provides jobs enabling folks to make money which in turn leads to consumption.  It is a rinse and repeat cycle ad infinitum that fuels modern economies.

 

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Economists cannot do Algebra.

The average person never uses Algebra or any other form of higher level mathematics beyond academia.

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

Talking about the End Stage of Capitalism makes no sense when you have not acknowledged the last phase change.

There's no shortage of philosophical rabbit holes for humans to hop into and get lost. 

[umbrarchist]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

There's no shortage of philosophical rabbit holes for humans to hop into and get lost. 

Lots of stuff in the rabbit holes.

[umbrarchist]

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

The average person never uses Algebra or any other form of higher level mathematics beyond academia.

The average person doesn't use Doppler RADAR to track rain clouds.

 

They just get wet!

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

Lots of stuff in the rabbit holes.

There's a master plan for those junked vehicles.

 

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

The average person doesn't use Doppler RADAR to track rain clouds.

 

They just get wet!

Even the most average person has enough sense to grab an umbrella or find another means to avoiding getting wet.

 

One thing is certain, not even the smartest people can stop the rain from falling if it's in the forecast.

[umbrarchist]

10 hours ago, ProfD said:

Even the most average person has enough sense to grab an umbrella or find another means to avoiding getting wet.

Even the people who use Doppler RADAR get wet to some degree. It is nearly impossible to go outside and get in your car and stay perfectly dry even in a medium rain.

 

The trouble with the way these palefaces teach mathematics is that they go off into abstract Never Neverland totally out of touch with reality.

 

Economics without Depreciation!

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[umbrarchist]

I am shocked!

 

Not everyone is blocking me on BlueSky.

 

https://chevan.info/depreciation-rules-transfer-wealth-up/

[umbrarchist]

 

 

Everybody needs to stop believing in Euro-American delusional economics. The Laws of Physics do not care about anybody and White people are turning the planet's natural resources into garbage while ignoring the depreciation.

 

 

https://chevan.info/depreciation-rules-transfer-wealth-up/

[umbrarchist]

The road to serfdom is paved with BMWs.

[ProfD]

On 7/23/2025 at 11:51 AM, umbrarchist said:

White people are turning the planet's natural resources into garbage while ignoring the depreciation.

The question is who's going to stop them. Black folks are waiting on the sky fairy to deliver the world from *evil*.

[umbrarchist]

12 hours ago, ProfD said:

The question is who's going to stop them. Black folks are waiting on the sky fairy to deliver the world from *evil*.

 

Which White people?

 

Not long after the Vietnam War I began thinking that the way to revolt against the palefaces was to get young White kids to do it.

 

Now they have created this Gen-Z problem: crappy jobs, high prices and no one ever explained to them what is going on. Now a lot of them voted for Trump expecting, I don't know what.

 

Tell them things that they can verify for themselves. The economics profession handed their parents a load of bullshit, and are still talking bullshit.

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[ProfD]

52 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

Now they have created this Gen-Z problem: crappy jobs, high prices and no one ever explained to them what is going on. Now a lot of them voted for Trump expecting, I don't know what.

The middle class and poor of all generations overwhelmingly voted a rich clown back into office as POTUS.  That is a problem to solve.

[Troy]

43 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The middle class and poor of all generations overwhelmingly voted a rich clown back into office as POTUS. 

 

To be clear more people did not vote at all than those who cast a vote for Kamala or Trump.  Trump barely won the popular vote against Harris. Neither candidate was able to earn a vote of more than 1/3 of the eligible voters.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Troy said:

To be clear more people did not vote at all than those who cast a vote for Kamala or Trump.  Trump barely won the popular vote against Harris. Neither candidate was able to earn a vote of more than 1/3 of the eligible voters.

Point taken.  Those who didn't vote still made a *choice* in where we are today.

[umbrarchist]

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

The middle class and poor of all generations overwhelmingly voted a rich clown back into office as POTUS.  That is a problem to solve.

They voted him in and how many are pissed off at him now. There have been posts coming up on BlueSky about his administration lying about economic data since this morning. Saying US economic data as unreliable as China.

 

I was talking about the military doing something about Trump in November:

 

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[ProfD]

1 hour ago, umbrarchist said:

I was talking about the military doing something about Trump in November:

i remember. 

 

I also wrote that we don't live in a country where the military takes out their own leadership. 

 

A military coup would be a different ballgame and a whole new set of problems.

[umbrarchist]

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

A military coup would be a different ballgame and a whole new set of problems.

And I NeVeR said anything about a coup!

 

I find it amusing and confusing that so many people jump to that conclusion.

 

The last few months I have just been thinking about a A-10 Warthog flying over a golf course.  Do it in such a way that no one doubted that it was a US military action.

 

Every political idiot that follows should get the message.

 

Do NOT Fuck with the Constitution.

 

The Oath ain't No Joke!

 

We will take Your Ass Out!

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[ProfD]

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

And I NeVeR said anything about a coup!

Fair enough. A military person removing POTUS by any means would be punished harshly.

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

I find it amusing and confusing that so many people jump to that conclusion.

It's not jumping to a conclusion if the solution to the problem involves the US military. 

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

The last few months I have just been thinking about a A-10 Warthog flying over a golf course.  Do it in such a way that no one doubted that it was a US military action.

Political assassination would not sit well with Americans. 

2 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

Do NOT Fuck with the Constitution.

Congress isn't doing the best job of folllowig or enforcing the constitution.

[umbrarchist]

38 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Fair enough. A military person removing POTUS by any means would be punished harshly.

If they were caught.

 

Suppose 5 Generals with 100 underlings decided to do it. Could they arrange it without being caught. And then how many would like to do it but don't have the guts?

 

Would they help or obstruct an investigation?

 

Then there is that unpredictable Patriotism factor. It is not difficult to see that the Preztard has already screwed up the country that would take more than a decade to fix if it can be done at all. Some people might not care if they get caught.

45 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Political assassination would not sit well with Americans. 

I have gotten lots of likes on the subject on BlueSky.

 

75% of the population scores below 111 on the Idiot Quotient tests.

[ProfD]

On 7/26/2025 at 1:25 AM, umbrarchist said:

If they were caught.

 

Suppose 5 Generals with 100 underlings decided to do it. Could they arrange it without being caught. And then how many would like to do it but don't have the guts?

Never going to happen in the United States of America.  This country was built different. 

 

On 7/26/2025 at 1:25 AM, umbrarchist said:

Then there is that unpredictable Patriotism factor.

The MAGA movement and hyper-white nationalism is very real. They will protect their leader.

 

As soon as tbose 5 Generals and 100 underlings start to plot and plan their deed, they will be compromised and sold out.

[umbrarchist]

He's Chinese, he must know what he is talking about.

 

No comment on Depreciation due to Planned Obsolescence though. Analysis incomplete!

[umbrarchist]

I have acquired a fan on another message board. He is an economist.

I have been blocked by a number of economists on BlueSky.

 

[quote]Originally Posted by EDS_ 

1. Disregard that guy's one string banjo song about NDP. The .gov has tracked, logged and published NDP since 1921.
A. It's not a secret
B. Every OECD member and other successful countries, no exceptions, prefers to focus on GDP.
C. His lunacy that economists don't understand NDP is just that lunacy and nothing more.[/quote]

 

How do you quote blocks of text on this forum?

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[umbrarchist]

Curses, blocked again.

 

I didn't try to track him down until after he blocked me. I just asked him if college graduates should recognize Planned Obsolescence in automobiles half-a-century after the Moon Landing. And I found a graph by the Federal Reserve for consumer depreciation.

 

Would you believe $1.3 Trillion for 2021? I knew it had to be hundreds of billions per year.  So why isn't there a variable for it in the Net Domestic Product equation?

 

[ProfD]

4 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

Curses, blocked again.

 

I didn't try to track him down until after he blocked me.

No surprise there. 

 

If a picture is worth a thousand words, that fella looks like he has zero interest in going down the rabbit hole of planned obsolescence in automobiles.  

 

Trillions of dollars have been wasted on a whole lot of sh8t in addition automobiles since the 1960s. 

[umbrarchist]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

No surprise there. 

 

If a picture is worth a thousand words, that fella looks like he has zero interest in going down the rabbit hole of planned obsolescence in automobiles.  

 

Trillions of dollars have been wasted on a whole lot of sh8t in addition automobiles since the 1960s. 

He can talk all of that intergenerational bullshit but 700 year old double entry accounting could have been mandatory in high schools in Western countries since 1950.

 

What would the effect of that be by now? So why weren't Malcolm X and MLK talking about it?

[ProfD]

53 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

He can talk all of that intergenerational bullshit...

Folks should use their platform as they choose.  

53 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

but 700 year old double entry accounting could have been mandatory in high schools in Western countries since 1950.

Surely, the folks in charge of the system have their reason(s) for leaving double-entry accounting out of high school curricula since the 1950s is a question that should be posed to the white folks in charge of the system. 

 

53 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

What would the effect of that be by now?

Establish a platform to promote those idea(s).

53 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

So why weren't Malcolm X and MLK talking about it?

Malcolm X and MLK Jr. were too busy tackling the issues of civil rights.   

 

Both of them were assassinated long before they could take on more issues.

 

However, there is no better time than now to champion the cause, concern, issue of which one feels passionately. 

 

Start a movement or consult with one that is already established. 

[aka Contrarian]

I remember hearing the term "planned obsolescence" at least 60 years ago. Seemed like it had to  do with cars "being out of style" before the buyer finished paying for them.

It was not something consumers were completely in the dark about. The attitude toward this practice was very cavaliere, often joked about.

I knew a coupla guys who regularly purchasef a new car before they finished  paying for their current one, claiming - this saved money(?)  altho that doesn't make sense.

[umbrarchist]

8 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

However, there is no better time than now to champion the cause, concern, issue of which one feels passionately. 

 

Start a movement or consult with one that is already established. 

I don't give a shit about passion.

 

This is cold calculated economic warfare. Emotional bullshit is the problem.      

[umbrarchist]

6 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

I remember hearing the term "planned obsolescence" at least 60 years ago. Seemed like it had to  do with cars "being out of style" before the buyer finished paying for them.

It was not something consumers were completely in the dark about. The attitude toward this practice was very cavaliere, often joked about.

I knew a coupla guys who regularly purchasef a new car before they finished  paying for their current one, claiming - this saved money(?)  altho that doesn't make sense.

 

The Waste Makers (1960) by Vance Packard 

 

There are 3 types of Planned Obsolescence & may all occur simultaneously.

 

1. True technological advance is planned obsolescence. Intel designing the 8086 CPU while selling 8085s.

 

2. Styling changes, making products look different every year

 

3. Cheap construction causing product to fail soon & consumer to buy a new one

 

I lost interest in cars before I graduated from high school but the same concepts apply to stereo equipment.

 

Companies were and are developing true technological improvements to products which will make the old product obsolete. So in the "Totally Literal" sense that is Planned Obsolescence but I doubt too many people object to that.

 

Then there are styling changes that most people like but are mostly useless but they can create maintenance problems, increase prices to accomplish next to nothing. In stereo equipment knobs get rearranged and colors changed, silver, gold, black, back to gold etc.

 

Then there is cheaper construction. Types of metal get changed. The metal gets thinner. Metal is replaced with plastic.

 

In hi-fi equipment all 3 things could happen from one year to the next from a particular manufacturer. Suppose there are 10 changes, 3 of them would be technological improvements, 5 of them would be useless styling changes and 2 would be cheaper construction.  But this has been going on for Decades.

 

Notice the Million$ of Dollar$ on the Left.

 

That is $1,357,339,000,000

 

$1.36 TRILLION Dollar$

 

When/where are economists talking about this on television?

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[aka Contrarian]

@umbrarchistWell, isn't "planned obsolescence" at the very root of a Capitalistic system? How can industry thrive and survive if there isn't an ongoing need for the products they manufacture?

Vance Packard also wrote "The Status Seekers". An insightful look at the link between materialism and self-esteem.

[umbrarchist]

The term Capitalism became the dominant term because of Karl Marx as far as I know. How much planned obsolescence was occurring when he was alive?

 

I am more inclined to think in terms of Power Games. We have the:

 

Economic Power Game 

Political Power Game 

Military Power Game

 

But Marx said that technology changes the means of production. What did he say about technology becoming so advanced and powerful that it was possible to Saturate any Real Market?

 

What happened after WWII? To a degree that war showed everyone what America's productive capacity was. And everyone was afraid of a return to the Depression.

 

In 1948 less than 1% of American households had televisions. By 1962 it was about 90%.  So we got Planned Obsolescence Consumerism when we could have had a 3-day workweek instead.

 

What is there about CAPITALISM that precludes mandatory accounting in high schools? The problem is most people believing bullshit.

 

Lots of Marxists block me on BlueSky since I brought up the business of Marx and Depreciation. They have already decided on the proper Marxist narrative.

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[umbrarchist]

6 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@umbrarchist

Vance Packard also wrote "The Status Seekers". An insightful look at the link between materialism and self-esteem.

 

That is one of the problems I have with talking with people about the stuff they buy. A man who told me that he "Loved Cars" didn't know a cam shaft from a crank shaft.

 

I don't call that materialistic.

 

At IBM I wrote my own benchmarks to test two machines. I never saw the word 'benchmark' in IBM documentation. The old machine was almost twice as fast as the new machine that it was being replaced by. The new machine has floppy disks instead of a tape drive so it could win at a random access storage test. But evaluating technology presents challenges to materialism. We can bet that the corporations are going to exploit ignorance.

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[aka Contrarian]

@umbrarchistAs the title "Status Seekers" implies, it's about impressimg others with the symbols of wealth and success! A sleek,  new, expensive car, for instance, theoretically  makes you the envy of your peers, or at least commands a modicum of respect. On the other hand, in the materialistic realm, a modest economical life stlyle reduces you to just being an average bloke even if you are highly intelligent and of good character. That's the fallacy exposed by the book 

 

Karl Marx wasn't about private  enterprise and profits, he was about a class-less, state run society.

Communism, as you know, is the anti-thesis of Capitalism. 

Presumably, the free enterprise of Capitalism is more compatible with  the "democracy"  adopted by the American republic.

                zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ProfD]

As @aka Contrarian points out, materialism has little or nothing to do with having knowledge of that which one consumes.

 

Being able to afford expensive items and/or continually upgrade on the treadmill of planned obsolescence is part and parcel of the materialism.

 

People buy expensive houses, luxury vehicles, designer clothes and name brand appliances, etc., for status and self-esteem.  

 

Planned obsolescence started in the 1930s. Gross consumerism has been the American way of life for many decades. 

 

Nobody buys anything with the intent of keeping it for a lifetime and/or passing it down as an heirloom. Those days are long gone with the wind.

[umbrarchist]

18 hours ago, ProfD said:

Planned obsolescence started in the 1930s. Gross consumerism has been the American way of life for many decades. 

 

Nobody buys anything with the intent of keeping it for a lifetime and/or passing it down as an heirloom. Those days are long gone with the wind.

Bernard London wrote a book using the term Planned Obsolescence in 1932. He was proposing it as a solution to the Depression. The first documented case of it was the Light Bulb Conspiracy of the 1920s

 

I was just thinking about consumerism shortly before I came back to this site.  I went shopping with a woman years ago and we went around this shopping mall for about 3 hours and she bought some clothes. I agreed to this because there was a new/used hi-fi store across the street.  So we went there after she was done shopping.

 

We walked in and there was a pair of black Vandersteen 2Ci speakers sitting in the middle of the floor. They were $800! I listened to them for a while for defects but they sounded fine. I still have them.

 

Ms. Robinson noticed a Bang & Olafson receiver. B&O equipment looks cool but I wouldn't by any for myself.  I still have the Vandersteen speakers. More than 20 years.

 

 

I went back and bought her the B&O as a surprise.

 

To me Materialism is Physics. Brand name doesn't mean squat.  Consumerism is going to crash the planet. That is why I write about Depreciation.

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[umbrarchist]

Ending the Depression Through Planned Obsolescence (1932) by Bernard London

https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/72003

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[aka Contrarian]

On 9/27/2025 at 8:29 PM, umbrarchist said:

To me Materialism is Physics. Brand name doesn't mean squat.  Consumerism is going to crash the planet. That is why I write about Depreciation.

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How long is it going to take before the planet is crashed by consumerism. Does the book written in 1932 say?

 

Are there any old books around predicting the emergence of AI?

[Delano]

On 9/28/2025 at 11:29 AM, umbrarchist said:

Ms. Robinson noticed a Bang & Olafson receiver. B&O equipment looks cool but I wouldn't by any for myself.  I still have the Vandersteen speakers.

B&O looks cools but they have proprietary leads. My personal favourites are Infinity research with polymer drivers. So yeah I wouldn't buy either B&O. They have really beautiful design and are crazy expensive.

[umbrarchist]

14 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

How long is it going to take before the planet is crashed by consumerism. Does the book written in 1932 say?

 

Are there any old books around predicting the emergence of AI?

We definitely will not make it to 2100, but probably not to 2050. There has been a Repo Crisis in cars for almost a year now dealerships are filing for bankruptcy. That 1932 book was published before the spread of television. TV Brainwashed consumerism was unknown.

 

AI in space: (fiction)

The Two Faces of Tomorrow (1979) by James P Hogan 

https://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?id=12829

- - - Free Chapters - - -

https://www.baen.com/Chapters/0671878484/0671878484.htm

 

War in space with drones fighting an Artificial Intelligence that doesn't understand what human beings are.

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[ProfD]

12 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

We definitely will not make it to 2100, but probably not to 2050.

That's true especially for those of us who post here on a regular basis.