Spike Lee Tells Black Men to Vote

[ProfD]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13986225/Spike-Lee-black-men-support-vote-Kamala-Harris.html

 

Looks like the Democrats are pulling out all stumps,, er, stops to encourage Black men to vote for VP Harris.

 

POTUS Obama, Magic Johnson, actor Wendell Pierce and now filmmaker Spike Lee are wagging their proverbial fingers at Black men.

 

I still find it comical that nobody is telling any other group of men they'd better vote.

 

It's all about the *Black* vote. Nevermind they aren't offering Black folks anything in return. No money or policy. 

 

Spike Lee is from NY. He already knows better.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfD:  These reluctant black male voters would be whining and sulking if they were being ignored and written off. When approached about joining a crusade to ward off the kind of dictatorship that Trump is just salivating to turn America into, all these smug brothas can think about  is asking what's in it for them. The answer to that quiery  is: a country that will have staved off a theocratic fascistic take over.

 

And just for the record, John Legizamo, Geoge Lopez and Rosie Perez have been urging Hispanics to support Kamala. And the female vote is also being solicited by prominent women from all sectors to gain support for Roe vs Wade.

I hate to burst their inflated sense of importance, but these obstinate black men aren't the only ones being asked to volunteer their vote. 

 

When Obama was running for POTUS, nobody had to put their foot up the asses of black women to gain their support. They were eager to help him get elected, not looking for anything in return, just glad to participate in a quest for the common good. Not so with these black men, many of whom are the same ones who quickly became disillusioned with Obama because he couldn't overthrow institutionalized racism or overcome a Republican-dominated senate.

 

All of this is just one more reason why I was not enthusiastic about Kamala's candicacy. As I feared, she is being held to a much higher standard than a man.

Trump's flaws are overlooked because people identify with his vulgar, petty, incompetence, but as a woman running for president, Kamala Harris is punished for not being perfect.

I will be pleasantly surprised if she wins. I can only hope...

[umbrarchist]

30 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Trump's flaws are overlooked because people identify with his vulgar, petty, incompetence, but as a woman running for president, Kamala Harris is punished for not being perfect.

I will be pleasantly surprised if she wins. I can only hope...

 

Trump's flaws are not overlooked. Stupid assholes vote for stupid assholes.

 

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Edited October 26, 2024 by umbrarchist
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[ProfD]

Instead of berating Black men to continue  voting Democrat, these celebrities should be using their star power to make the case against former POTUS Orange Julius. 

 

IMO, these people should be using their influence and resources to make full-chested PSAs outlining how the country will go to h8ll in a handbasket if former POTUS OJ gets re-elected. 

 

Half the country is willing to re-elect the Orange Jackazz. The majority of those voters are white people.

 

Nobody is berating white people for their blind allegiance to the right and willingness to allow democracy to get choked out by the Boogeyman.

[Pioneer1]

I hear what the good Proffesor is saying.

 

It's not so much about encouraging Black men to vote that's the issue; it's not OFFERING us anything for our vote that's the issue.

Whether it's:

-Promising Jews more support for Israel and more money for Holocaust museums around the nation.
-Promising Latinos more support for immigrants and letting more of them across the border
-Giving the LGBTQIA+ community more rights and legal privileges and protections

 

All of these various groups are actually promised and GIVEN things in exchange for their support.

 

Black men are told to vote but are not only NOT given anything in exchange for our vote but not even PROMISED anything now a days.

The only thing they want to give Black men is a good "talking to" and trying to SHAME bruthaz into voting.

How is Obama going to stand up there and suggest that Black men aren't voting for Kamala because they're sexist and don't want to see a Black woman in charge when MOST Black men today were raised by single mothers?
They GREW UP seeing Black women taking care of business and running the show.


Said in that 90's Urban dialect:    'srong wit 'em, son?

 

[ProfD]

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

All of these various groups are actually promised and GIVEN things in exchange for their support.

The craziest part is that Black folks will be given all types of excuses for 1) helping other groups ahead of ourselves and 2) told not to make demands and 3 ) accept nothing and 4)  shut up and vote.

 

Once the elections are done, politicians will pat themselves on the back for duping Black folks into voting for nothing in return...again.

 

Reminds me of Lucy pulling that football every time Charlie Brown tries to kick it.

 

[KENNETH]

Maybe there's no real consensus or even a concern among large numbers of Black voters especially men about race specific policies. How many brothers care about stalled police reform and voting rights legislation in Congress. Are they willing to fight for it ? Did they do anything to press Congress or President Biden or Kamala Harris on such issues ? I bet they didn't.

 

Moreover how many disinterested 

brothers really are aware of what Biden has done to benefit us through Student Loan Forgiveness or parts of the Inflation Reduction Act.  The former gives us badly needed debt relief while the latter creates thousands of new skilled jobs. 

 

It's easy to get mad and complain or simply drop out. But too many of us don't want to do the hard work thinking, speaking up, and advocating even when there are setbacks. Often the benefits aren't always immediate.

 

But what's worse is the contempt for and opposition to Black women for doing what we men often refuse to do. Kamala Harris might lose this election in part because alot of us brothers will stay home.

[ProfD]

Multibillionaire Elon Musk has very specific interests when it comes to his political support. 

 

The US gov't wants more electric vehicles (EV) on the road in the next several years.

 

Musk wants EV charging stations all over the country. He also has a space program. 

 

There are tangible benefits to Elon Musk's business endeavors and bottom line of his net worth. 

 

Black folks need to define and codify what they expect to receive for their vote.

 

Black folks shouldn't allow or accept politicians telling them what they're going to do which is often lumped in with everybody else.

 

Establish expectations to which politicians can be held accountable. Vote them out of office if/when those demands are not met.

[Pioneer1]

Kenneth

 

Maybe there's no real consensus or even a concern among large numbers of Black voters especially men about race specific policies. How many brothers care about stalled police reform and voting rights legislation in Congress. Are they willing to fight for it ? Did they do anything to press Congress or President Biden or Kamala Harris on such issues ? I bet they didn't.

Didn't we just have a series of riots back a few years ago over police brutality?
I'm not sure how much clearer Black youth could have made their concerns known if threatening to burn down half of the cities in the U.S. didn't do the job...lol.
 
I think Black Americans and especially Black men have made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that we'd like politicians to do something about police misconduct and brutality as well as criminal justice reform in general.

We've also made it clear we need more good paying jobs with benefits.


Perhaps a good question would be how much MEDIA TIME is being given to us and our concerns and how much is the mainstream media actually legitimizing them?
 

When it comes to LGBTQIA and White women's issues, the mainstream media focuses on them like a laser beam with commercials, townhall specials, billboards, etc...
You can't open up a magazine or look at a billboard without seeing some naked White woman with some "message" tattooed on her ass or across her belly making her concerns  crystal clear. 
There is no mistaking or misunderstandings about her concerns.

They don't do that with Black men and our issues.
Not to that level anyway.

When was the last time you saw a billboard with a picture of a naked Black man on it and a pair of handcuffs dangling off his dick talking about we need to "arrest police brutality and put an end to it now" ???
 

 

Moreover how many disinterested 

brothers really are aware of what Biden has done to benefit us through Student Loan Forgiveness or parts of the Inflation Reduction Act.  The former gives us badly needed debt relief while the latter creates thousands of new skilled jobs. 
 

Has ANY of these loans actually been forgiven yet?

I haven't followed it much but from what I've heard and read he kept trying to push the Act but it kept being tabled or put on hold by the Republicans in Congress (the usual excuse) so it hasn't been Enacted yet.
 

 

 

It's easy to get mad and complain or simply drop out. But too many of us don't want to do the hard work thinking, speaking up, and advocating even when there are setbacks. Often the benefits aren't always immediate.

 

Facts.
Can't argue with you there.

I believe our bruthaz need more support and motivation and this is something we should NOT expect from White people who have a vested interest is keeping us politically INactive.

We need this support and motivation from other AfroAmericans politicians who are already in positions of power to do so.

 

 

 

But what's worse is the contempt for and opposition to Black women for doing what we men often refuse to do. Kamala Harris might lose this election in part because alot of us brothers will stay home.

 

I actually wanted Michelle Obama...a TRUE Black woman....to run for President.
I guess the support wasn't strong enough.

What TANGIBLE benefits has Kamala promised Black men specifically that would motivate them to run out and vote for her over Trump?

 

 

 

 

Troy


I’m not sure this is true. Most kids have a man in the house, he just may not be the biological father
 

Ahhh, here we go again...lol.

Just like the Gangsta Rap encouraging violence debacle; do you need "case studies" and "links" to verify this statement before accepting it?

There's a difference between an actual FATHER in the house vs some dude or DIFFERENT DUDES dropping by the house every now and then playing football with you or bar-b-quing on the weekends he comes by to bang the mother.
 

These "men in the house" you speak of that you'd like to compare to a father figure:

1. Are they there in the house virtually every day since the child's birth until they go off to college?

2. Are they at Parent-Teacher conferences with the mother?

3. Are they paying or helping to pay the bills of the home?

4. Are they fixing whatever needs to be fixed around the home or calling up and paying someone who can do it?

These are things an actual FATHER does (or should do).
 

It may be a stretch for me to say this but, I don't think MOST (meaning 51% or more) Black American men currently in the United States can say they grew up around men who did that.
 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

There's a difference between an actual FATHER in the house vs some dude or DIFFERENT DUDES dropping by the house every now and then playing football with you or bar-b-quing on the weekends he comes by to bang the mother.

Call the fire department.

 

Many n8gglets growing up believing their name is lil man because that's how their uncles, er, momma boyfriends addressed them.

 

There was a time that Black men settled down with women and raised non-biological kids with or without having kids of their own in the same household. 

 

Every now and then, we'll hear young adults give credit for their upbringing to a man who was a dad/father-figure in every sense of the word.

[Pioneer1]

I'm old enough to remember that before "lil man" it was "young blood".

I was Divinely Favored enough to grow up with a good Father in the home, however sometimes we'd go over our aunt's house to stay for a night or two and I'd ROUTINELY see certain dudes drop by for the weekend and didn't understand at the time what was going on.

Me and my brother would sometimes mess up and call my aunt's boyfriends by different names thinking they were the same dude we saw there last month...LMBAO.

You'd be downstairs playing with your cousin and some nigga in a robe and gold chain around his neck would come downstairs to the kitchen and walk past you grinning talking about
"what's up young blood....how ya been!"

Man....the shit you remember growing up, lol.
 

 

[ProfD]

38 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm old enough to remember that before "lil man" it was "young blood".

Man....the shit you remember growing up, lol.

That was in the 1970s thru 1980s. Same sh8t. Different decade. Nothing new under the sun.

[Troy]

On 10/27/2024 at 9:32 AM, Pioneer1 said:

I was Divinely Favored enough to grow up with a good Father in the home, however sometimes we'd go over our aunt's house to stay for a night or two and I'd ROUTINELY see certain dudes drop by for the weekend and didn't understand at the time

Man, I’m sorry to hear that that must’ve been rough. 
 

On 10/27/2024 at 8:15 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Ahhh, here we go again...lol.

Just like the Gangsta Rap encouraging violence debacle; do you need "case studies" and "links" to verify this statement before accepting it?

No, I don’t need facts or any of that. I’ll just take your word for everything ha ha! 

[umbrarchist]

Spike Lee is irrelevant:

I don't comprehend people who voted for Trump eight years ago. I did not vote for Hillary Caesar because I liked her.

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[umbrarchist]

I just voted against Trump for the THIRD TIME.

 

Hopefully he will be ShitCanned into prison and never darken my voting booth again.

 

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[Pioneer1]

2 minutes ago, umbrarchist said:

I just voted against Trump for the THIRD TIME.

 

To be clear.....

Not all on the SAME DAY, I hope....lol.

[Troy]

4 hours ago, umbrarchist said:

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Okay help me out; what did this mean?

[ProfD]

1 minute ago, Troy said:

Okay help me out; what did this mean?

View count.

 

No idea of why it's a significant metric.

 

It definitely has nothing to do with the Twin Towers.

[Troy]

View  count of what @ProfD? Is this something that’s commonly done on other forms?

[ProfD]

30 minutes ago, Troy said:

View  count of what @ProfD? Is this something that’s commonly done on other forms?

Thread view count. Not commonly done. 

[umbrarchist]

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

To be clear.....

Not all on the SAME DAY, I hope....lol.

 

I wish!

 

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It just lets me know something about the activity on a thread. I have to report to the FBI.

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8 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

It definitely has nothing to do with the Twin Towers.

How do you know? I just haven't figured it out yet.

[Pioneer1]

On 10/30/2024 at 8:15 AM, umbrarchist said:

 

I wish!

 

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It just lets me know something about the activity on a thread. I have to report to the FBI.

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The FBI has a full plate with their agents trying to piece together the entire P Diddy situation.
You might have to leave a message.

Besides.....
Are you sure the NSA hasn't already picked up on whatever it is????