Pioneer1 Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 While it's true women went into factories to replace the men who went off to WWII, the men came back in the mid-late 40s -long before the Women's Movement; yet they KEPT the women in those factories. Do you want to know why? When women started working in large numbers, management observed 2 major things about them: 1. They were more docile and put up with poor working conditions without complaining as much as men did 2. They didn't demand more and more money and other benefits for their labor the way men did. Women workers...by nature...are more caring and focused on KEEPING their jobs so that they can feed their children so they are less likely to place demands on their employer or get into conflict with them and risk losing their jobs. To this day, female workers are preferred in most jobs. And let's keep it real..... To a lesser extent, another reason women were preferred over men was because it supplied the men in management plenty of "easy access" pussy from their needy subordinates often willing to do anything to keep their jobs.
Troy Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 I know I’ve been out of the work environment for a long time, but @pioneer the way you describe the conversations you have and your understanding of how it’s set up is completely alien to me and I’ve worked for a bunch of companies in a lot of different places. I’m not discounting your experiences. They are just very different than mine. Maybe it’s the blue color versus white collar environments…
Pioneer1 Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Troy Yes. Up until this point about HALF of the jobs I've had have been either service industry or blue collar, including the one I'm on currently. The other half has been sales, which I would consider more white collar but it wasn't a firmly established white collar career like a marketing executive. The atmospheres between service industry, blue collar, and professional jobs are certainly different. The jokes we tell eachother are different. The cast of characters you work with are different. The gender and sexual dynamics are different. Even the race relations dynamic is different. But I'm curious as to what do you means SPEFICALLY????
aka Contrarian Posted May 6 Author Report Posted May 6 @Troy pioneers' assessment of womens' status in the workplace sounded like something from the 1950s. Most factories have Unions and women hold positions in these organizations, making sure female workers and their demands are met. And when it comes to supervision, a whole lot of men, especially black ones, will tell you how they hate having a female boss because they are so tough to work under. As for sexual harassment on-the-job, it can work both ways. Puleeze.
Troy Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 @Pioneer1 pretty much every topic of conversation you have described would be off limits pretty much everywhere I've worked -- especially the flirting. I had one female boss that I can remember. I did not report directly to her she was to level above me. She overcompensated on being tough. What is the purpose of having women in the workplace if they are just going to try to act like a man... But don't let it be a black and a white one 'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top Black police showing out for the white cop
Pioneer1 Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 Co I mean Cyn I mean aka Contrarian Most factories have Unions and women hold positions in these organizations, making sure female workers and their demands are met. And when it comes to supervision, a whole lot of men, especially black ones, will tell you how they hate having a female boss because they are so tough to work under. As for sexual harassment on-the-job, it can work both ways. Many female subordinates don't like female bosses because they can't pull the same shit on another woman that they can pull on a man....and get away with it. A woman is less likely to "giggle" and flirt her way out of disciplinary action from another female supervisor, unless she's lesbian. And even then.... Troy She overcompensated on being tough. What is the purpose of having women in the workplace if they are just going to try to act like a man... I've seen this before, many times. A lot of times a woman will act like what she THINKS a man will do rather than what a man will actually do in that situation. A lot of women assume people think she's soft, so like you said she'll often OVER compensate by being extra hard. However it still comes off as emotional and frantic...lol. I think as long as there are both men AND women in the workplace you need both male AND females in management for that balance. Like the police for. You need both male and female for a balanced perspective.
ProfD Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: A lot of times a woman will act like what she THINKS a man will do rather than what a man will actually do in that situation. A lot of women assume people think she's soft, so like you said she'll often OVER compensate by being extra hard. IMO, minorities in general especially in management positions often overcompensate. Even white women believe they have to show men they can take charge and lead. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: However it still comes off as emotional and frantic...lol. Most women are emotional by nature. It's going to come through at some point even in the workplace. No matter how tough a woman tries to be in the workplace there's that moment whether it's empathy, compassion or frustration that she breaks down and cries. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Like the police for. You need both male and female for a balanced perspective. Female police officers can reach down in another female's crotch to retrieve drugs, guns, money, stolen merchandise, etc.
Pioneer1 Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, ProfD said: Female police officers can reach down in another female's crotch to retrieve drugs, guns, money, stolen merchandise, etc. Right This was one of the reasons. But to be real, a lot of MALE police officers feel free to do the same thing when it comes to BLACK female suspects.
umbrarchist Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 At what point does the US military not doing something about Trump become "Dereliction of Duty"?
ProfD Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 7 hours ago, umbrarchist said: At what point does the US military not doing something about Trump become "Dereliction of Duty"? POTUS OJ is Clown, er, Commander-in-Chief. Unless SECDEF and/or military goes rogue or POTUS OJ becomes a domestic enemy, there's nothing the military can do about his actions.
umbrarchist Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 4 hours ago, ProfD said: Unless SECDEF and/or military goes rogue or POTUS OJ becomes a domestic enemy, there's nothing the military can do about his actions. Their oath is to defend the Constitution against enemies Foreign and "Domestic". How many of Donny 2 Dolls Executive Orders have violated the Constitution in how many ways?
ProfD Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 18 hours ago, umbrarchist said: Their oath is to defend the Constitution against enemies Foreign and "Domestic". How many of Donny 2 Dolls Executive Orders have violated the Constitution in how many ways? The military doesn't run around putting hands on enemies foreign or domestic. They follow orders to do so. Guess who gives those orders with support from Congress. 11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yeah, what happened to the "Oath Keepers"....lol. They've retreated back into the woods to target practice and wait for the next opportunity to defend and protect white nationalism.
umbrarchist Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: The military doesn't run around putting hands on enemies foreign or domestic. They follow orders to do so. Guess who gives those orders with support from Congress. I do not assume that EVERYBODY Aways thinks inside the box. It is possible that SOME high ranking officers do not. Milley told everyone that Trump was a Fascist 4 years ago.
ProfD Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 5 minutes ago, umbrarchist said: I do not assume that EVERYBODY Aways thinks inside the box. It is possible that SOME high ranking officers do not. Those high ranking officers would have to take matters into their own hands and form a coup to take down POTUS OJ. They're not that interested in doing it. 5 minutes ago, umbrarchist said: Milley told everyone that Trump was a Fascist 4 years ago. The general didn't take action while he was in the Pentagon or since he left the building. If it was possible, Gen. Milley could have rounded up a tactical unit and tried to take POTUS OJ down.
umbrarchist Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, ProfD said: If it was possible, Gen. Milley could have rounded up a tactical unit and tried to take POTUS OJ down. Trump did not have 3 years and 9 months to go and numerous Constitutional violations on record.
ProfD Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 37 minutes ago, umbrarchist said: Trump did not have 3 years and 9 months to go and numerous Constitutional violations on record. POTUS OJ has a criminal record. He's not afraid of the court. He'll keep signing executive oders regardless of how it lines up with the Constitution. Neither congress nor the judicial branch seems overly interested in putting a stop to the clown car barreling around town.
Troy Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 Elizabeth Warren was powerful...These guys are infuriating. Why do these post on X?
ProfD Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 In the latest news, POTUS OJ may be getting a plane worth $400 million dollars from Qatar. That would be a violation of all type of ethics yet fellow politicians nor American citizens seem to be outraged about it.
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